clojure web developer job offer
Our company is looking for a full time or consultant developer. The job is to maintain and continue actively develop web application / internal webservices written in clojure. We use compojure web framework, darcs for repository. Remote work via ssh is ok. Haskell knowledge is a big plus. We have internal web services written in haskell. We are located in San Dimas, CA. But relocation is not necessary. Requirements: good grasp of functional programming, at least one year of production coding with clojure or haskell. Contact me if intrested. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Language shoutout clojure code does not have types
Check for example this code: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/program.php?test=pidigitslang=clojureid=1 It is slower than scala 8 (!!!) times. But peppering it with types can easily bring it on par with java/ scala. Any takers ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Job position for haskell/clojure dev. in San Dimas, CA
Anyone interested in full time employment working with haskell and clojure in San Dimas, CA (local job only, NO telecommute) please let me know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Job position for haskell/clojure dev. in San Dimas, CA
Sorry, forgot to mention, and i already got questions about it. No worker visa sponsorship, no relocation from abroad. US only. On Jun 20, 2:36 pm, Vagif Verdi vagif.ve...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone interested in full time employment working with haskell and clojure in San Dimas, CA (local job only, NO telecommute) please let me know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Emacs setup - quick navigation to files and definitions
What do you mean by navigation ? Slime supports jumping to function definition (Alt-.) and back (Alt-,) And this works not only in your own code but also in all contrib libraries. So what else do you need ? On Jun 12, 6:50 pm, yair yair@gmail.com wrote: Hi, With swank and slime all set-up along with CDT, further improved by slime autocomplete, my emacs setup is getting pretty close to being a full featured, highly clojure focused IDE. One thing I am struggling with while working on a larger than usual project (i.e. 7 source files some of which have 200-300 lines) is quickly navigating between source files and the definitions within them. I took a look at CEDET but it seemed a bit overwhelming, and I wasn't sure the effort would be worth it as I couldn't tell if clojure would then be supported within it. So, which plugins do you use in emacs for navigating between clojure source files and definitions? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: ANN: Logos v0.6 - Pattern matching, Tabling, Disequality Constraints, and now on Clojars
Can it be used as an inference (rule) engine ? On Apr 9, 2:27 pm, David Nolen dnolen.li...@gmail.com wrote: Logos is finally in good enough shape to be worth publishing to Clojars. There are really too many changes to enumerate here, but if you're familiar with Prolog, Logos is now far enough along that you can basically write Prolog in Clojure and then some. Here's the evidence: (defn-e nqueens-o [l] ([()]) ([[[?x ?y] . ?others]] (exist [] (nqueens-o ?others) (member-o ?y [1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8]) (noattack-o [?x ?y] ?others (defn-e noattack-o [q others] ([_ ()]) ([[?x ?y] [[?x1 ?y1] . ?others]] (exist [] (!= ?y ?y1) (nonrel/project [?y ?y1 ?x ?x1] (!= (- ?y1 ?y) (- ?x1 ?x)) (!= (- ?y1 ?y) (- ?x ?x1))) (noattack-o [?x ?y] ?others The big changes are: * Pattern matching * Goals can be tabled a la XSB * Fairly efficient implementation of disequality constraints (and programs w/o constraints are not penalized) I've been begun porting some examples from Bratko's excellent Prolog book as a guide for those who are interested herehttps://github.com/swannodette/bratko-logos. A note on performance: when the search space is not small Logos doesn't perform as well as Prolog since it uses an interleaving strategy, and this interleaving is currently implemented via liberal thunking. While I'm interested in making Logos faster, I think many of the kinds of search problems that are currently slower in Logos than in Prolog are best solved with Constraint Logic Programming anyhow - which is the next major feature for Logos. Enjoy, David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Monad Lessons
Jim, i assume you are familiar with haskell (monads - haskell :)) So my question is, can you describe the difference in working with monads in dynamic language (clojure) with working with monads in haskell. From my own experience i would say that without a firm help from typing system i would struggle with monads in clojure. Heck i struggle with them even in haskell :) On Mar 9, 11:15 am, jim jim.d...@gmail.com wrote: I gave a talk at CodePaLOUsa on monads and got some favorable feedback. So I thought I'd offer to do a live training session on monads using pretty much the same material, but at a shared REPL rather than with slides. How it would work is I would start a Skype conference for 5 to 10 people. We would also all log in to a tmux session where I would show the examples and their results. So, my question is how many would be interested in such a session? This would be a basic introduction to monads. Future session could be about more advanced monad topics, if there was a demand for that. Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Deflayout - define Swing UI declaratively
It would be better if your macro would accept maps and vectors,
because those can be prepared somewhere else and passed around as
parameters. Your current macro allows only hardcoding.
On Feb 3, 4:23 pm, Alexander Yakushev yakushev.a...@gmail.com wrote:
(deflayout frame
{:west gamepanel
:east (deflayout sidepanel
[nextpanel (JButton. Exit)] :flow :trailing))
Actually I thought about something like that, but then I decided to come
up with something at least a bit uniform.
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Re: which IDEs are you all using?
Jumping to the definition of function: Alt-. Returning back Alt-, All other (and much more) features are implemented in slime (emacs package). On Jan 9, 11:01 am, Alex Baranosky alexander.barano...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm most used to using Intellij, since it is what I use everyday at work programming in Java. So my first forays into Clojure have been using LaClojure. Some things I like about using Intellij for Clojure development are: - I can click on a piece of code and have Intellij take me to the file where that code is defined, even if I didn't write it; this means I can click right through into clojure.core and read the source. - It also has a nice rainbow parens feature which I find helps with visually parsing the Clojure code. - And of course Intellij has a LOT of keyboard shortcuts to help with manipulating the text. - I also like to change the color scheme, I assume emacs allows you to use a self-created color scheme? I've been considering switching to Emacs because it seems to be the de facto standard for the community. Does emacs have the equivalent of these four features? If not, does it have their equivalents? On another note, I'd also love to hear what features Emacs would give me that LaClojure doesn't enable. All the Best, Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Ah-hah! Clojure is a Lisp
Haskell has aha moments too. And it is not lisp. The definition of lisp i accept is much simpler and much more obvious: source code of the program is a valid data structure in that language. On Dec 19, 11:33 am, Tim Daly d...@axiom-developer.org wrote: There have been discussions, here and elsewhere, about whether Clojure is a Lisp. Lots of discussion centers around facts like homoiconicity, or the REPL, or the debate of Rich's redefinition of lisp primitives, etc. These are arguments about the paint on the palace. I have struggled with this question and I believe I found the answer that satisfies me that Clojure is a Lisp. The answer is that getting Clojure involves an ah-hah! moment. The most fundamental thing about Lisp is that there is this universal but personal event when you suddenly get it. This does not seem to happen with other languages. There is a distinct before vs after when you suddenly internalize the language and IT changes YOU. I recently felt that moment with Clojure. Did anyone else experience the ah-hah!? Tim Daly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Clojure 1.3 Alpha 4
Maybe clojure should adopt linux versioning scheme, where even numbers are stable production clojure and odd numbers are development branch ? On Dec 12, 7:09 pm, Stuart Halloway stuart.hallo...@gmail.com wrote: Clojure 1.3 Alpha 2 is now available at http://clojure.org/downloads 0 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 3 to 1.3 Alpha 4 1 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 2 to 1.3 Alpha 3 2 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 1 to 1.3 Alpha 2 3 Changes from 1.2 to 1.3 Alpha 1 4 About Alpha Releases = 0 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 3 to 1.3 Alpha 4 * normalized unchecked-* fn names * added *unchecked-math* support * fixes to binding conveyance (and *agent*) = 1 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 2 to 1.3 Alpha 3 * fixed filter performance issue introduced in 1.3A2 * with-redefs macro (useful for stubbing) * print-table = 2 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 1 to 1.3 Alpha 2 * code path for using vars is now *much* faster for the common case, and you must explicitly ask for :dynamic bindability * new: clojure.reflect/reflect http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/Reflection+API * new: clojure.data/diff = 3 Changes from 1.2 to 1.3 Alpha 1 * enhanced primitive support (http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Enhanced+Primitive+Support) * better exception reporting * ancillary namespaces no longer auto-load on startup: clojure.set, clojure.xml, clojure.zip = 4 About Alpha Releases 1.3 is the first release of Clojure that will include a series of alpha builds. We are adding these builds to support maven and leiningen users, who want a specific artifact that they can target (as opposed to building from master or moving-target snapshots). If you are the kind of person who used to track master by building from source, but no longer do so because you are using maven or leiningen, alpha releases are for you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Function Design: sequence or argument?
On Nov 15, 8:52 am, Chris christopher.ma...@gmail.com wrote: If you have a function that needs to treat multiple arguments as a group, what forces drive you to represent this as a single sequence argument vs. an argument? To give a concrete example, why does + work like (+ 1 2 3 4) instead of (+ [1 2 3 4]) Is it performance? Aesthetics? Composability concerns? Not having to call apply all the time? Thanks, Chris The form is a syntax helper. In other words it is intended to change the source code, not to change the way you program. Thus you have to look at the intended use of the function. If you are going to type different number arguments to a function right in the code yourself, then use . If you are going to get the arguments for that function at runtime, then use a single argument. Examples: map, filter, reduce. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Flex as a Clojure Frontend
Yes, I have a flex app, talking to compojure backend via JSON. On Aug 14, 12:40 pm, nchubrich nchubr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has any experience developing Clojure applications with a Flex interface, and if so, what is the best way of going about it. I also wonder if anyone has used Las3rI'm a little reluctant to use it because the Flash Builder programming environment is so effective. Thanks, Nick. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Interest Inquiry
On Jul 26, 6:34 am, jim jim.d...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I'd like to do is implement a business rules engine in Clojure running the Rete algorithm or something similar. Sort of a Drools in Clojure. Wouldn't it be easier to implement clojure scripting for Drools ? As far as i know Drools allows several scripting options for it's rules definitions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Interest Inquiry
Back in the days when i was using common lisp (sbcl) i used this inference engine: http://lisa.sourceforge.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Why I have chosen not to employ clojure
I'm happy that this guy self eliminated himself from clojure community. But experience tells me not to be so sure. His kind tends to come back and unfortunately is very persistent. If downloading couple of jar files and dropping them into the classpath is too much for him, then he is definitelly a java noob. Imagine him advising his clients never use java :)) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Zip function
In clojure map works like zipWith. So you can pass to it vector if you want just plain zip: (map vector colls) That makes making a special named function unnesessary. On Mar 13, 6:55 am, Marmaduke mmwood...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm new to Clojure, but in other languages, zip is a workhorse, and I didn't find it, so I (defn zip [ ss] (partition (count ss) (apply interleave ss))) but because I didn't find it, I am suspicious: is there a better way? Marmaduke ps. As a first-poster: thanks to Rich Hickey and Stuart Halloway for the language and the book, respectively. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: ANN: Fleet — templating system
Years of using ASP and JSP convinced me that writing markup and code in the same file is evil. That's why i prefer StringTemplate. It is perfectly usable with clojure and accepts clojure maps, yet it does not allow you to incorporate arbitrary code into your templates. Everyone is happy, especially designers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
function that converts argument into a single value vector.
I often find myself creating one line helper functions that i use very often just because it is easier to write them than try to find them in contrib. Here's one: (defn- to-list [x] (if (vector? x) x [x])) This one is often needed when working with html form fields. Is there such a function in contrib ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Sessions for Ring
Whatever you guys chose, do not go the immutable road. Compojure took that approach and now many people (including me) are stuck with situations where they need to update session in a middle and pass it somewhere else, and they can't. Session is a data storage, just like a database. One of the strong points of compojure is the layers of middleware. Unfortunately there's no way to communicate between the layers, because current session updating mechanism makes it impossible. You cannot use the session to signal to the middleware that this particular case requires different handling. So one has to resort to communicating through other shared data storages like database and then practically duplicate the session mechanism. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Sessions for Ring
On Feb 3, 7:18 pm, James Reeves weavejes...@googlemail.com wrote: On Feb 3, 8:44 pm, Vagif Verdi vagif.ve...@gmail.com wrote: This again is something that's limited to Compojure, and not necessarily indicative of a problem with the functional approach. I agree. As long as session implementation is robust and simple to use without corner cases it does not really matter for me how they are implemented internally. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Suggestion: Get rid of java.lang.Exception: EOF while reading..
+1 for paredit. Writing lisp without an IDE geared towards the language is miserable. Bracket matching is a must-have feature for lisp programmer. Higher in importance than anything else. On Jan 27, 9:48 am, Jarkko Oranen chous...@gmail.com wrote: You should really give paredit.el a go some time. It feels silly to worry about matching parentheses nowadays. That aside, I am supportive of any improvement in either compiler or reader error messages. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Clojure + Redis
There are other NoSQL datastores written in java, like Voldemort. Perhaps if you investigate them, you will find one that will be much easier to integrate with clojure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Google-collections
I wonder if just released http://code.google.com/p/google-collections/ google-collections java library could be of any use to clojure implementation ? They have there High-performance immutable implementations of the standard collection types and many other goodies. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Why use monads
On Dec 22, 2:10 pm, jim jim.d...@gmail.com wrote: Chouser, You're right that maybe-comp is simpler. Once you realize that the functions you want to compose are monadic functions under the maybe-m monad, you get that composition for 'free', with no further mental effort. Except different types of monads do not compose, so you have to create another artificial structure called monad transformers. And these new structures introduce so much new artificial complexity that any possible simplification becomes a moot point. This fact is realized even in haskell community: http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/2749#comment-41078 I'd say that monads add way too much complexity in most cases. Especially in impure languages where you can do many things much simpler than involving monads. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Bert Clojure Implementation
FYI There a binary protocol library http://hessian.caucho.com/ It is pure java, supports all the primitives BERT has, has bindings to many languages including Python, Ruby, Erlang, even Flash. And of course because it is java, it is readily available from clojure. It also supports streaming of course. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Parenthesis Inference
Welcome to the big club of people who in last 50 years came up with a brilliant idea to fix lisp. As for Ten parentheses, i do not see a single one. Noone notices starting parens because they are markers saying this is a function. And of course noone notices ending parens because they are for your IDE, not for the human. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Parenthesis Inference
On Dec 18, 4:59 pm, Martin Coxall pseudo.m...@me.com wrote: But I'm trying to think of it from the point of view of Joe Q. Coder, who will take one look at our beloved elegant, expressive Clojure, see all the parens and run screaming. Let James Gosling worry about Joe Q. Coder. He does a very good job at that. Do you think HP worries that soccer moms will not use their Engineering Calculators ? Who is the intended audience of Clojure? Is it other Lispers? Or other Java programmers? The intended audience are Software Engineers. Not the people who hide behind this-is-not-intuitive their lack of willing to learn the most effective way to spend their professional life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Switching off lazyness
This is not a suggestion or anything, just entertaining myself with some uneducated thinking. What if all lazy functions (map filter etc) would check some global value and decide upon it lazyness ? Then we could do something like this: (eager (map ...(filter ...))) That would allow to not to pay lazyness penalty in some cases. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Switching off lazyness
On Oct 2, 1:37 pm, Meikel Brandmeyer m...@kotka.de wrote: You can do so by with doall: (doall (map ... (filter ...))) Unfortunately this is not true. Yo are paying penalty for lazyness in this case. Try it yourself. Write non lazy versions of map and filter and time them against standard ones. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: clojure-mode survey
I use clojure-mode with slime. But i did not use clojure-install. I also do not run clojure from within emacs. I run it via script, and then connect to it via slime-connect. I prefer it much more than clojure-install, because i have a control over where my clojure and other libraries are resided. Besides i do not need to run emacs in order to run my clojure web server. I can connect/disconnect to it anytime and from any machine i like. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: When to use macros
I would argue that macros always should be syntax wrappers for functions. Coding the logic into a macro in most cases is a mistake. So first write the function that does the work. Then write a macro that simplifies a syntax to call that function. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to migrate definitions to another namespace ?
Thx to all. ns-unmap and remove-ns are what i need. From my CL experience i was looking for something like unitern. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
How to migrate definitions to another namespace ?
I often refactor my code and move some functions to new modules. Unfortunately i cannot load them, because clojure says that function with such name is already loaded from another namespace. I could not find nothing better but to close my clojure session (which means bring down the web server) and start it back again. Is there a way to unregister some names from a namespace without reloading it ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: clojure vs scala
On Aug 25, 7:37 pm, Alan Busby thebu...@gmail.com wrote: Reducing it further, I'd be interested just to hear more about the contrast of static typing versus macros. Which is more beneficial for different situations and why? I fail to see how macros can be contrasted to static typeng. They are orthogonal. Here's and example of statically typed language (liskell) with lisp syntax and full blown lisp macros: http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/2009/01/liskell-standalone.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New string utilities library ready
I'm using str-utils2 for a couple of months now. Do not care about the old library. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: enhancement request: a simple way to read a file
Try contrib library duck-streams. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: a better reductions?
On Aug 7, 1:23 am, Daniel Lyons fus...@storytotell.org wrote: This is the difference between FreeBSD and NetBSD. I agree, but I also find it useful to crack open core and contrib to see coding examples and to understand algorithms. I'd suggest to include into library for teaching purposes variants of unoptimized functions with a suffix -naive. Say reduction-naive. This way you could have both beautiful algorithm for teaching purposes, and optimized function for practical purposes. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Reflection warning: reference to field getClass can't be resolved.
When reflection warning is on, i get 2 warnings on every my file: reference to field getClass can't be resolved. reference to field getClassLoader can't be resolved. Is this something i should be worried about ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Transient Data Structures
On Aug 3, 1:52 pm, luke luke.vanderh...@gmail.com wrote: So you could easily wrap an entirely functional code block in a transform-to-transient macro that translates the functions to their transient counterparts, and gain all the performance benefits? I do not think it would be that easy. Transient mode cannot be used with lists and sequences, only with some particular data structures, like vectors. Your macro would need to know at compile time types of variables. I think this is the case when dynamic nature of clojure prevents us from teaching a compiler to do sophisticated performance optimizations and forces a programmer to do them manually instead. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
What happened to clojure.contrib web site ?
There was this awesome browsable list of clojure libraries with short description of each, list of functions and even links to source. Now it all replaced with link to github. Please bring the user friendly and easily browsable documentation back! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What happened to clojure.contrib web site ?
On Aug 3, 6:19 pm, ataggart alex.tagg...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the well-hidden, auto-generated docs for clojure-contrib: http://richhickey.github.com/clojure-contrib/ Thx. That's what i've been looking for. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Clojure without Rich Hickey
Today i saw the announcement http://groups.google.com/group/Qilang/browse_thread/thread/592773c562017d87 that the creator and maintainer of another modern lisp dialect Qi closed the shop and went to India. The effect on Qi was so drastic that the Qi community are discussing right now which languages to port it over, clojure being one of the options. Since i'm using clojure in my business i got worried at a sudden thought what would happen to clojure if Ruch calls it a day. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Grails And Clojure
Before creating clojure Rich Hickey tried several times to marry Common Lisp and java: http://jfli.sourceforge.net/ http://foil.sourceforge.net/ http://lisplets.sourceforge.net/ He spend lots of time and effort to come to realization that something like clojure is nesessary. Maybe it is time to use your experience in creating web frameworks and start a new one, on clojure. Crails :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Grails And Clojure
On Jul 19, 9:49 am, Wilson MacGyver wmacgy...@gmail.com wrote: There are already two webframework in clojure being developed. Compojure and cascade. While I'm eagerly waiting to see how these two and others will envole Not much to wait there. Compojure is quite stable and feature rich now. It is a low level web framework. You have to explicitly manage urls and code html by hand, using their html combinatorics library. There's nothing wrong with being a low level web framework. You certainly can build up upon it. I'm currently migrating our web application from plain java servlets to compojure. Cascase is not even a web framework yet. It is a toy. And sadly from what i've seen so far, it took the same path as compojure: explicitly dealing with urls and manually building html pages with its own library. No high level object/widget approach a-la Seaside, Weblocks, Rails etc. So there's a space for different kind of web frameworks in clojure ecosystem. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Grails And Clojure
On Jul 19, 4:19 pm, Howard M. Lewis Ship hls...@gmail.com wrote: You seem to have a better idea of what's going in in Cascade than I do, and I'm the one writing it. Please be patient. I was replying to the author of the thread who said there are 2 clojure web frameworks. Cascade could very well become a great web framework. But it is a toy right now. As for being patient, i'm not in a hurry. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Reddit discussion on lazy lists faster than eager
I got into funny discussion about speed of lazy lists versus eager lists in clojure: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/91ha3/how_to_start_using_lisp_at_work/c0b44xp I did this small example to test it: user (time (dorun (map #(+ % 1) (map #(+ % 1) (map #(+ % 1) (repeat 100 7)) Elapsed time: 1588.133219 msecs nil user (time (dorun (map #(+ % 1) (doall (map #(+ % 1) (doall (map #(+ % 1) (doall (repeat 100 7) Elapsed time: 4953.661747 msecs nil What do you guys think about discussion ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Java STM
Potentially interesting library for clojurians. Java STM implementation: http://www.deucestm.org/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Questions / guidelines for adopting Clojure
On Jul 7, 4:08 am, Roman Roelofsen roman.roelof...@googlemail.com wrote: * Parametrization of function groups * Lets say I have a bunch of functions that provide database operations (read, write, delete, ...). They all share information about the database the operate on. In an OO language, I would define these methods in the same class and an instance variable would define the database. The advantage is, that the caller side does not need to be aware of the database name. I can create an instance somewhere and pass around the object. For this particular case i just create a simple macro with-db, that behind the scenes passes a premade db connection info into with- connection macro. So the actiual usage looks very simple and clean: (with-db (sql-val [select name from author where id = ? 123])) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Awkward Booleans from contrib.sql
Here's some warts, when working with boolean fields from sql databases. (if (with-db (sql-val [select convert(bit, 0)])) Yes, no) will return Yes. This is because contrib.sql returns java Booleans, not clojure tru/false. (if (= false (with-db (sql-val [select null]))) Yes, no) will return no. This is because null is not false in clojure. So the only way to correctly deal with booleans from sql databases is to explicitly test for true: (if (= true (with-db (sql-val [select null]))) Yes, no) or (if (not (= true (with-db (sql-val [select null] Yes, no) That's awkward, especially for those of us, coming from Common Lisp. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Awkward Booleans from contrib.sql
I just got an advise from IRC to use (boolean x). Problem solved :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Differences between 'compiled', 'clojure interpreted', 'clojure in a jar in classpath' and 'load'
On Jun 25, 8:29 am, Stuart Sierra the.stuart.sie...@gmail.com wrote: So AOT-compilation makes the code slightly faster to *load* when your application starts, because it doesn't have to compile the code on the fly. But Clojure compiler is very fast, so the difference is barely noticeable. Actually i tried to load compojure web framework from sources and it is much slower than from precompiled jar. And compojure is not even that of a big project. For web applications maybe it is not a big deal. I mean how many times a day you start a web application ? But for big desktop applications i think it is worth to compile at least for production use. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A website written using Clojure.
What server are you running it on ? Tomcat ? There's a compojure web framework that already has html combinator library. Check it out here: http://preview.compojure.org/docs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll for a new name for clojure eclipse plugin 'clojure-dev'
Clojure, enclojure, compojure, conjure... I say enough with jure already. There are lot's of beautiful project names like Tapestry, Wicket, Hunchentoot, that do not include parts of the programming language name they are written in. How about a normal word, like Eclair ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What are people using Clojure for?
On Jun 18, 8:39 am, Howard Lewis Ship hls...@gmail.com wrote: I am having fun learning it by creating a simple web framework. Howard, that's interesting to hear from a Tapestry creator. I'm in a process of preparing to write a web application with clojure web framework compojure. But if you have something usable, I'd love to check it out before i made my decision. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: filter on sequence
On Jun 2, 7:55 am, Andrew Wagner wagner.and...@gmail.com wrote: You can use destructuring in your predicate's arg list: Not to hijack the thread but...is there some reason clojure doesn't just just call this pattern-matching? Is it different somehow? Pattern matching matches not only structure but also values. For example foo 5 = 0 foo 7 = 1 foo x = x * 2 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Instructions for Emacs+SLIME
I would greatly appreciate instructions how to setup emacs to connect to already running clojure. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is oracle going to make the jvm part proprietary?
Fear not. G1 is in Open-JDK, so no one can forbid you use it anyway you see fit. The clause in EULA is simply a lawyer talk, to cover their asses if someone uses experimental feature in production and looses his data or crashes server. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Currying / Partial Application macro
On May 27, 11:57 pm, kinghajj kingh...@gmail.com wrote: Example: (def add5 ($ + 5)) (add5 3) I love partial application in haskell. But do not see the need for it in clojure with its succinct syntax for anonymous functions: (def add5 #(+ 5 %1)) (add5 3) Besides clojure's anonymous function syntax allows you to replace any argument, not just the last one, like your partial macro. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: La Clojure plugin for IntelliJ IDEA updated
Do you have plans to add connect/disconnect to existing running Repl over the network ? Emacs has this mode with slime and it is very handy in developing web applications. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Saving the Clojure.org webiste
i saved it with wget and then fixed the files with sed to point to right resources and urls. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
list vs vector
What are the use case scenarios where one is preferable to the other in clojure ? It looks to me like vectors almost completely overtake lists for all purposes. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Slime integration
When i use slime with lisp, it shows me function parameters, when cursor is on a function name. But with clojure it only shows me Evaluation Aborted. Is this because that feature not implemented, or i setup something wrong ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: filter1 interesting?
The power of functional programming is in small number of orthogonal functions. I'm afraid all these combination functions will quickly transform clojure into php. Besides it introduces several ways to do the same thing - more confusion (especially to newbies). Instead of littering the language with dothis-thendothis functions, i propose to add a compose operator like in haskell (. [first filter] ...) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: filter1 interesting?
On Mar 17, 11:50 pm, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote: The comp function in clojure.core does just this. I know about comp function. I was talking about introducing a special syntax for it. Since one of the fundamental techniques of functional programming is composing chains of functions, clojure should have first class support for this, just like it does for sequences. Then we wouldn't have waste our time on long discussions how to save 3 letters. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: filter1 interesting?
Is (first (filter ..) lazy like in haskell ? I would hate to wait for filter to get all results just to throw them out and pick the first one. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
