Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Alex Miller]

The books page only lists books after their final release. I found that many 
books have drifting publish dates and don’t always proceed to completion so 
decided on this guide for when to add things.

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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Juraj Martinka]

Hi, Russ!
I'm very excited about the book and thank you very much for finishing it.
Please, consider adding it to https://clojure.org/community/books.



On Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:19:55 UTC+1, ru...@russolsen.com wrote:
>
> And as others have pointed out, the book is now available in beta form:
>
> https://pragprog.com/book/roclojure/getting-clojure
>
> The paper version is due out in April.
>
> Russ
>
> On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 4:30:10 PM UTC-5, ru...@russolsen.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> So it's been 6 years, 6 months and 19 days but the book is on it's way. 
>> It's called Getting Clojure, published by the Pragmatic Press:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/russolsen/status/929096359919214592
>>
>> Thanks for asking!
>>
>> Russ
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 11:09:56 PM UTC-4, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be 
>>> needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading 
>>> design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning 
>>> much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it. 
>>>
>>> I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design 
>>> principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5 
>>> star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read 
>>> a Russ Olsen clojure book. 
>>>
>>> Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else 
>>> interested in such a book? 
>>>
>>> Sayth
>>
>>

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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Nando Breiter]

I like those sections as well! and I also like how Russ has extracted and
presented the essential simplicity of Clojure in this book. It makes it
very approachable. And the one-liners, like: "There comes a time in the
life of virtually every program when decisions need to be made."

:-)



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On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 1:07 AM, Sean Corfield <s...@corfield.org> wrote:

> I’m already enjoying my copy! I like the structure of the sections,
> especially the “keeping out of trouble” and “in the wild”.
>
>
>
> Sean Corfield -- (970) FOR-SEAN -- (904) 302-SEAN
> An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
>
> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> -- Margaret Atwood
>
>
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> *From:* clojure@googlegroups.com <clojure@googlegroups.com> on behalf of
> r...@russolsen.com <r...@russolsen.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2018 12:19:55 PM
> *To:* Clojure
> *Subject:* Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book
>
> And as others have pointed out, the book is now available in beta form:
>
> https://pragprog.com/book/roclojure/getting-clojure
>
> The paper version is due out in April.
>
> Russ
>
> On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 4:30:10 PM UTC-5, ru...@russolsen.com
> wrote:
>>
>> So it's been 6 years, 6 months and 19 days but the book is on it's way.
>> It's called Getting Clojure, published by the Pragmatic Press:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/russolsen/status/929096359919214592
>>
>> Thanks for asking!
>>
>> Russ
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 11:09:56 PM UTC-4, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be
>>> needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading
>>> design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning
>>> much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it.
>>>
>>> I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design
>>> principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5
>>> star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read
>>> a Russ Olsen clojure book.
>>>
>>> Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else
>>> interested in such a book?
>>>
>>> Sayth
>>
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RE: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Sean Corfield]

I’m already enjoying my copy! I like the structure of the sections, especially 
the “keeping out of trouble” and “in the wild”.

Sean Corfield -- (970) FOR-SEAN -- (904) 302-SEAN
An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/

"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
-- Margaret Atwood


From: clojure@googlegroups.com <clojure@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
r...@russolsen.com <r...@russolsen.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 12:19:55 PM
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Subject: Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

And as others have pointed out, the book is now available in beta form:

https://pragprog.com/book/roclojure/getting-clojure

The paper version is due out in April.

Russ

On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 4:30:10 PM UTC-5, ru...@russolsen.com wrote:
So it's been 6 years, 6 months and 19 days but the book is on it's way. It's 
called Getting Clojure, published by the Pragmatic Press:

https://twitter.com/russolsen/status/929096359919214592

Thanks for asking!

Russ

On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 11:09:56 PM UTC-4, Sayth Renshaw wrote:

Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be
needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading
design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning
much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it.

I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design
principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5
star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read
a Russ Olsen clojure book.

Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else
interested in such a book?

Sayth

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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[russ]

And as others have pointed out, the book is now available in beta form:

https://pragprog.com/book/roclojure/getting-clojure

The paper version is due out in April.

Russ

On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 4:30:10 PM UTC-5, ru...@russolsen.com wrote:
>
> So it's been 6 years, 6 months and 19 days but the book is on it's way. 
> It's called Getting Clojure, published by the Pragmatic Press:
>
> https://twitter.com/russolsen/status/929096359919214592
>
> Thanks for asking!
>
> Russ
>
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 11:09:56 PM UTC-4, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be 
>> needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading 
>> design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning 
>> much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it. 
>>
>> I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design 
>> principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5 
>> star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read 
>> a Russ Olsen clojure book. 
>>
>> Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else 
>> interested in such a book? 
>>
>> Sayth
>
>

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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Alan Thompson]

Really looking forward to it!
Alan

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Shaun Parker <shaunrpar...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The book is now available to purchase. Thanks Russ, I can't wait to read
> it!
>
> https://pragprog.com/book/roclojure/getting-clojure
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 5:12:15 PM UTC-7, William Swaney wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Sean.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 8:08:22 PM UTC-8, Sean Corfield wrote:
>>>
>>> https://pragprog.com/book/roclojure/getting-clojure -- “This title will
>>> be available on or about 2018-08-10.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m a bit surprised it wasn’t available under their Beta program…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sean Corfield -- (970) FOR-SEAN -- (904) 302-SEAN
>>> An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
>>>
>>> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
>>> -- Margaret Atwood
>>>
>>>
>>> ------
>>> *From:* clo...@googlegroups.com <clo...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of
>>> William Swaney <the2...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 13, 2018 4:53:00 PM
>>> *To:* Clojure
>>> *Subject:* Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book
>>>
>>> Any idea when it'll be published? I don't see it at Pragmatic's site
>>> yet, nor at Amazon.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 8:09:56 PM UTC-7, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be
>>>> needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading
>>>> design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning
>>>> much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it.
>>>>
>>>> I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design
>>>> principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5
>>>> star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read
>>>> a Russ Olsen clojure book.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else
>>>> interested in such a book?
>>>>
>>>> Sayth
>>>
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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Shaun Parker]

The book is now available to purchase. Thanks Russ, I can't wait to read it!

https://pragprog.com/book/roclojure/getting-clojure

On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 5:12:15 PM UTC-7, William Swaney wrote:
>
> Thanks Sean.
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 8:08:22 PM UTC-8, Sean Corfield wrote:
>>
>> https://pragprog.com/book/roclojure/getting-clojure -- “This title will 
>> be available on or about 2018-08-10.”
>>
>>  
>>
>> I’m a bit surprised it wasn’t available under their Beta program…
>>
>>  
>>
>> Sean Corfield -- (970) FOR-SEAN -- (904) 302-SEAN
>> An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
>>
>> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
>> -- Margaret Atwood
>>
>>  
>> --
>> *From:* clo...@googlegroups.com <clo...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
>> William Swaney <the2...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 13, 2018 4:53:00 PM
>> *To:* Clojure
>> *Subject:* Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book 
>>  
>> Any idea when it'll be published? I don't see it at Pragmatic's site yet, 
>> nor at Amazon.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 8:09:56 PM UTC-7, Sayth Renshaw wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be 
>>> needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading 
>>> design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning 
>>> much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it. 
>>>
>>> I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design 
>>> principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5 
>>> star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read 
>>> a Russ Olsen clojure book. 
>>>
>>> Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else 
>>> interested in such a book? 
>>>
>>> Sayth
>>
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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[William Swaney]

Thanks Sean.

On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 8:08:22 PM UTC-8, Sean Corfield wrote:
>
> https://pragprog.com/book/roclojure/getting-clojure -- “This title will 
> be available on or about 2018-08-10.”
>
>  
>
> I’m a bit surprised it wasn’t available under their Beta program…
>
>  
>
> Sean Corfield -- (970) FOR-SEAN -- (904) 302-SEAN
> An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
>
> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> -- Margaret Atwood
>
>  
> --
> *From:* clo...@googlegroups.com  <clo...@googlegroups.com 
> > on behalf of William Swaney <the2...@gmail.com 
> >
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 13, 2018 4:53:00 PM
> *To:* Clojure
> *Subject:* Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book 
>  
> Any idea when it'll be published? I don't see it at Pragmatic's site yet, 
> nor at Amazon.
>
> Bill
>
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 8:09:56 PM UTC-7, Sayth Renshaw wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be 
>> needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading 
>> design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning 
>> much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it. 
>>
>> I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design 
>> principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5 
>> star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read 
>> a Russ Olsen clojure book. 
>>
>> Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else 
>> interested in such a book? 
>>
>> Sayth
>
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RE: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Sean Corfield]

https://pragprog.com/book/roclojure/getting-clojure -- “This title will be 
available on or about 2018-08-10.”

I’m a bit surprised it wasn’t available under their Beta program…

Sean Corfield -- (970) FOR-SEAN -- (904) 302-SEAN
An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/

"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
-- Margaret Atwood


From: clojure@googlegroups.com <clojure@googlegroups.com> on behalf of William 
Swaney <the2be...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 4:53:00 PM
To: Clojure
Subject: Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

Any idea when it'll be published? I don't see it at Pragmatic's site yet, nor 
at Amazon.

Bill

On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 8:09:56 PM UTC-7, Sayth Renshaw wrote:

Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be
needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading
design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning
much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it.

I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design
principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5
star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read
a Russ Olsen clojure book.

Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else
interested in such a book?

Sayth

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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[lawrence . krubner]

Stuart Sierra wrote a bit about Functional Design Patters here:

https://www.infoq.com/presentations/Clojure-Design-Patterns

Michael Bevilacqua-Linn wrote "Functional Programming Patterns in Scala and 
Clojure":

https://www.amazon.com/Functional-Programming-Patterns-Scala-Clojure/dp/1937785475/

And I reiterated all the standard arguments about why Lisps don't typically 
have the classical Design Patterns here:

http://www.smashcompany.com/technology/object-oriented-programming-is-an-expensive-disaster-which-must-end




On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 11:09:56 PM UTC-4, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
>
>
> Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be 
> needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading 
> design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning 
> much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it. 
>
> I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design 
> principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5 
> star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read 
> a Russ Olsen clojure book. 
>
> Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else 
> interested in such a book? 
>
> Sayth

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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[William Swaney]

Any idea when it'll be published? I don't see it at Pragmatic's site yet, 
nor at Amazon.

Bill

On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 8:09:56 PM UTC-7, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
>
>
> Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be 
> needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading 
> design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning 
> much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it. 
>
> I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design 
> principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5 
> star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read 
> a Russ Olsen clojure book. 
>
> Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else 
> interested in such a book? 
>
> Sayth

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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Bozhidar Batsov]

Nice!

Looking forward to reading it! I'm a big fan of your Ruby work!

On 12 January 2018 at 23:29,  wrote:

> So it's been 6 years, 6 months and 19 days but the book is on it's way.
> It's called Getting Clojure, published by the Pragmatic Press:
>
> https://twitter.com/russolsen/status/929096359919214592
>
> Thanks for asking!
>
> Russ
>
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 11:09:56 PM UTC-4, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be
>> needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading
>> design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning
>> much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it.
>>
>> I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design
>> principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5
>> star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read
>> a Russ Olsen clojure book.
>>
>> Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else
>> interested in such a book?
>>
>> Sayth
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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[russ]

So it's been 6 years, 6 months and 19 days but the book is on it's way. 
It's called Getting Clojure, published by the Pragmatic Press:

https://twitter.com/russolsen/status/929096359919214592

Thanks for asking!

Russ

On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 11:09:56 PM UTC-4, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
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>
> Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be 
> needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading 
> design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning 
> much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it. 
>
> I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design 
> principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5 
> star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read 
> a Russ Olsen clojure book. 
>
> Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else 
> interested in such a book? 
>
> Sayth

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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[flebber]

I am only really very new to clojure, I actually started with racket
and htdp.org(how to design programs). The really unique thing I see
with clojure is that super (clean to me) design and rather than
shunning java and oop Rich openly advises to embrace it. That's the
clincher for me rather than extremism its the recognition that OOP
does some things well and Functional does some things well and using
the best of both.

Thank you for the design patterns book as well as stated I really
enjoy the way you convey the ideas and ruby is an easy language to
pickup so it doesn't impede the learning process.

 I have thought about doing a clojure book, but so far
 it is only in the back of the napkin stage.

Always happy to supply more napkins.

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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Russ Olsen]

Sayth,

First, imagine my surprise when I saw just the title
of your post show up in a search...

Second, thanks for the kind words about the books
that I actually have written (so far). For what it's worth,
I have thought about doing a clojure book, but so far
it is only in the back of the napkin stage.

At this point I don't know how I would approach clojure
but I do think that the classic design patterns are a good
jumping off point for any new language discussion, mostly
because we are all familiar with them to one degree or
another. Rather than simply saying 'Clojure is powerful',
you can say,  'Hey, you know that problem that
the XYZ pattern solves? Here's the 2 lines of clojure that
does the same thing.'  That's more or less the approach
that I took in Design Patterns In Ruby - with Ruby, obviously.

Critically, the clojure (or Ruby for that matter) approach
may be very different than the original 1990's solution that
you will find in the GoF: This is a good thing since it
means that we have actually made some progress.

Finally, one of the best things about following Clojure
from its very early days is watching the idioms develop
and spread through out the community. As I tried to say in Eloquent
Ruby, the community behind a language and the
techniques that it develops are as much a part
of the language as the syntax.

Russ


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 Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be
 needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading
 design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning
 much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it.

 I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design
 principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5
 star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read
 a Russ Olsen clojure book.

 Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else
 interested in such a book?

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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[flebber]

Yes I did mean design patterns in ruby, by Russ Olsen.

  Many of the design patterns as presented by Gang of Four and Martin
 Fowler are strictly OO based are suitable for only for OO based
 languages.


I think essentially that's what would make it such an interesting
read. A total paradigm shift from someone who has a vast knowledge of
OOP and great depth of experience and the ability to communicate ideas
in an easily understandable and enjoyable fashion. How has his
programing style transformed using clojure?

Sayth

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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

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On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Vivek Khurana hiddenharm...@gmail.com wrote:
  Many of the design patterns as presented by Gang of Four and Martin
 Fowler are strictly OO based are suitable for only for OO based
 languages.

I don't agree - I think many of those patterns can be applied in a
non-OO world but the implementation will look a bit different...
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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Stefan Kamphausen]

Hi,

did you notice that Fogus and Houser do talk about Design Patterns at the 
end of their book?

Cheers,
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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

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On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Vivek Khurana hiddenharm...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  Many of the design patterns as presented by Gang of Four and Martin
 Fowler are strictly OO based are suitable for only for OO based
 languages.

 I don't agree - I think many of those patterns can be applied in a
 non-OO world but the implementation will look a bit different...

 I did not say all of them...

regards
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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Florian Over]

I also recommend to read the last chapter of the book Thinking in Clojure.
They have a good overview of equivalences of OO design pattern. (If needed)

If you want to Think clojure (maybe Think Lisp) this is the book for you!

Best regards
Florian Over

2011/6/30 Vivek Khurana hiddenharm...@gmail.com

 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com
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  On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Vivek Khurana hiddenharm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Many of the design patterns as presented by Gang of Four and Martin
  Fowler are strictly OO based are suitable for only for OO based
  languages.
 
  I don't agree - I think many of those patterns can be applied in a
  non-OO world but the implementation will look a bit different...

  I did not say all of them...

 regards
 Vivek

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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Brian Marick]

On Jun 29, 2011, at 10:09 PM, flebber wrote:
 I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design
 principles to Clojure a more functional language. 


If I recall right, Felleisen et al's /A Little Java, A Few Patterns/, despite 
using Java, uses a heavily functional style. I remember the explanation of 
Visitor is nothing like any other I'd ever seen.

http://www.amazon.com/Little-Java-Few-Patterns/dp/0262561158/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_4

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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Sean Corfield]

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:34 AM, Florian Over
florian.o...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I also recommend to read the last chapter of the book Thinking in Clojure.

Do you mean Joy of Clojure?

Here's what Fogus and Chouser say:

Most if not all of the patterns listed in the book are applicable to
functional programming languages in general, and to Clojure in
particular.

I agree with them on that :)

They do however go on to say this:

But at its most pragmatic, the patterns described are aimed at
patching deficiencies in popular object-oriented programming
languages. This practical view of design patterns isn’t directly
relevant to Clojure, because in many ways the patterns are
ever-present and are first-class citizens of the language itself. We
won’t provide a comprehensive survey of the ways that Clojure
implements or eliminates popular design patterns but will provide
enough to make our point.

Then they present nine design patterns and how they apply to Clojure,
showing that whilst the design pattern itself applies, the
implementation is often trivial - which is to be expected of a
language with greater expressive power.

So perhaps our only disagreement in this thread comes from the fact
that the sample _implementations_ shown in the GoF book are irrelevant
in Clojure whereas the patterns are often just normal ways of doing
stuff in Clojure?
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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[flebber]

@Florian  If you want to Think clojure (maybe Think Lisp) this is
the book for you!

Do you know the author I am on amazon and cannot find this book.

@Brian - A Little Java, A Few Patterns

Thanks looks good, think will add it to my order.

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Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[flebber]

Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be
needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading
design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning
much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it.

I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design
principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5
star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read
a Russ Olsen clojure book.

Is there any way we could help this to happen? Is anyone else
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Re: Russ olsen's Clojure Book

[Vivek Khurana]

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:39 AM, flebber flebber.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just wanted to put a shout out to Russ Olsen to see what would be
 needed to get a Russ Olsen book on clojure to happen. I am reading
 design principles in Ruby and its a great read, I feel I am learning
 much moe than just Ruby which is why I am reading it.

 Do you mean Design Patterns in Ruby by Russ Olsen ?

 I woould absolutely love to read how Russ would apply these design
 principles to Clojure a more functional language. His books are all 5
 star reads(amazon ratings) and would greatly enjoy being able to read
 a Russ Olsen clojure book.

 Many of the design patterns as presented by Gang of Four and Martin
Fowler are strictly OO based are suitable for only for OO based
languages.

regards
Vivek


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