Re: code design in clojure
Hi Brian Which books had you read? I found that Clojure Programming provides many useful tips on how organize code, etc. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Brian Craft craft.br...@gmail.com wrote: I'm finding the books on clojure to be very focused on low-level language features. Are there any good references for how to design code in clojure (or perhaps in functional languages more generally)? For example, knowing when to use a data type or a protocol, knowing when and how to separate purely functional code from code with side effects, making use of monads, queues, and the other forms that one hears about in the forums, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- With best wishes,Alex Ott http://alexott.net/ Twitter: alexott_en (English), alexott (Russian) Skype: alex.ott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: code design in clojure
Which books on Clojure have you read so far? On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Brian Craft craft.br...@gmail.com wrote: I'm finding the books on clojure to be very focused on low-level language features. Are there any good references for how to design code in clojure (or perhaps in functional languages more generally)? For example, knowing when to use a data type or a protocol, knowing when and how to separate purely functional code from code with side effects, making use of monads, queues, and the other forms that one hears about in the forums, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: code design in clojure
Clojure Programming, and The Joy of ... On Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:53:38 AM UTC-7, Sean Corfield wrote: Which books on Clojure have you read so far? On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Brian Craft craft...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I'm finding the books on clojure to be very focused on low-level language features. Are there any good references for how to design code in clojure (or perhaps in functional languages more generally)? For example, knowing when to use a data type or a protocol, knowing when and how to separate purely functional code from code with side effects, making use of monads, queues, and the other forms that one hears about in the forums, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: code design in clojure
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Brian Craft craft.br...@gmail.com wrote: Clojure Programming, and The Joy of ... Hmm, I was going to suggest Joy of but if you don't think that helps with some of those design issues, I'm not sure what to suggest. Others suggested Clojure Programming but, again, if that doesn't help... At this point I'd certainly be interested in hearing suggestions from other people beyond those two books...? -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: code design in clojure
Brian, Those are two excellent books. If you are looking at more general project organization and approaches, I'd suggest: - Just Enough Architecture (specifically its discussion on architectural evident coding) - watch the Halloway talks on evident code - thumb through Ring, Leiningen, and ClojureScript as prime examples of well written Clojure applications - watch the Google tech talk on designing good APIs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAb7hSCtvGw) - and you might find a book like Higher-Order Perl helpful (depending where you're coming from) Hope one (or all) of these help! Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: code design in clojure
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Paul deGrandis paul.degran...@gmail.comwrote: - thumb through Ring, Leiningen, and ClojureScript as prime examples of well written Clojure applications +1 I think it's informative to look at non-trivial yet small Clojure libraries. ClojureScript doesn't quite fit the small requirement, but I think there's a lot to learn from looking at ClojureScript's analyzer.clj which is less than a thousand lines. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: code design in clojure
See Functional Programming for the Object-Oriented Programmer ( https://leanpub.com/fp-oo) Il giorno 18/ott/2012 19:01, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com ha scritto: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Brian Craft craft.br...@gmail.comwrote: Clojure Programming, and The Joy of ... Hmm, I was going to suggest Joy of but if you don't think that helps with some of those design issues, I'm not sure what to suggest. Others suggested Clojure Programming but, again, if that doesn't help... At this point I'd certainly be interested in hearing suggestions from other people beyond those two books...? -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: code design in clojure
You probably want to watch this: vimeo.com/46163090 Also, try to think of your programs in terms of pipelines as much as possible. You get input, you produce output. That probably applies to every program ever written, but when you get how that works in Clojure, it's like an enlightment, at least it was for me. You can then structure all the processes in your program like that, and wire those up until you're done. On Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:51:23 AM UTC+2, Brian Craft wrote: I'm finding the books on clojure to be very focused on low-level language features. Are there any good references for how to design code in clojure (or perhaps in functional languages more generally)? For example, knowing when to use a data type or a protocol, knowing when and how to separate purely functional code from code with side effects, making use of monads, queues, and the other forms that one hears about in the forums, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: code design in clojure
Now I remember the more important video: www.infoq.com/presentations/Thinking-in-Data Also (haven't watched): www.infoq.com/presentations/Programming-with-Values-in-Clojure -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: code design in clojure
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
code design in clojure
I'm finding the books on clojure to be very focused on low-level language features. Are there any good references for how to design code in clojure (or perhaps in functional languages more generally)? For example, knowing when to use a data type or a protocol, knowing when and how to separate purely functional code from code with side effects, making use of monads, queues, and the other forms that one hears about in the forums, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
