Re: [CMake] Generating MSVS solution files that can be passed around

[Zaak Beekman]

Hi Bill,

Thanks for your response! Yes, I am aware of that MSVS has CMake
integration starting in MSVS 2017, but for various reasons, the pace of
upgrading or installing new software with the other contractors on the
project is limited. Some are stuck with MSVS 2015 which does not yet have
native CMake support.

I have included CMake binaries for Windows in a vendor subdirectory of the
project and wrote a batch file to allow one-click generation of Visual
Studio project files using the CMake binary now included with the source
code. With one click, the version of MSVS available is queried through
registry keys, the machine arch is queried and the included CMake is
launched with the correct MSVS version and arch specified to the -G
generator flag.

Thanks to all for all your help and suggestions!

Best,
Zaak

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 5:37 PM Zaak Beekman  wrote:

> Thanks Jano, that's the work flow I was considering.
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 5:33 PM Jano Svitok  wrote:
>
>> You don't have to install cmake. Just get the zip version, unzip in
>> somewhere along your sources and you are done.
>> I'm not sure whether any runtime dlls are needed, but I suppose not.
>>
>> We use cmake like that. We've committed a copy in our git repo, and have
>> a simple means to update cmake for everyone
>> in the team at once.
>>
>> Jano
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Zaak Beekman  wrote:
>>
>>> Ha, yeah that’s an option. The problem is that they’re not “my”
>>> contractors. They are the client’s contractors. We’ll see.
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:52 PM Cristian Adam 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Zaak Beekman 
 wrote:

> The situation is that we have a client who works with other
> contractors who use almost exclusively windows and MSVS. This client wants
> to distribute MSVS solution files with the source code so that other
> contractors don’t have to install cmake. (There are some restrictions/red
> tape for installing additional software on the contractor machines…)
>

 Why not distribute CMake as source code? Compile it so that they don't
 have to "install" it.

 On the other hand Visual Studio 2017 comes with their own version of
 CMake! Just make sure your contractors use VS2017 :D

 Cheers,
 Cristian.


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Re: [CMake] Generating MSVS solution files that can be passed around

[Bill Hoffman]

One thing to consider is that MS is now shipping CMake as part of VS.  
So, if you can get your project to work with that version of VS, you 
should be all set. In fact you can have people just open the project and 
MS VS will run CMake for you.


-Bill

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Re: [CMake] Generating MSVS solution files that can be passed around

[Zaak Beekman]

Thanks Jano, that's the work flow I was considering.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 5:33 PM Jano Svitok  wrote:

> You don't have to install cmake. Just get the zip version, unzip in
> somewhere along your sources and you are done.
> I'm not sure whether any runtime dlls are needed, but I suppose not.
>
> We use cmake like that. We've committed a copy in our git repo, and have a
> simple means to update cmake for everyone
> in the team at once.
>
> Jano
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Zaak Beekman  wrote:
>
>> Ha, yeah that’s an option. The problem is that they’re not “my”
>> contractors. They are the client’s contractors. We’ll see.
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:52 PM Cristian Adam 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Zaak Beekman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The situation is that we have a client who works with other contractors
 who use almost exclusively windows and MSVS. This client wants to
 distribute MSVS solution files with the source code so that other
 contractors don’t have to install cmake. (There are some restrictions/red
 tape for installing additional software on the contractor machines…)

>>>
>>> Why not distribute CMake as source code? Compile it so that they don't
>>> have to "install" it.
>>>
>>> On the other hand Visual Studio 2017 comes with their own version of
>>> CMake! Just make sure your contractors use VS2017 :D
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Cristian.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [CMake] Generating MSVS solution files that can be passed around

[Jano Svitok]

You don't have to install cmake. Just get the zip version, unzip in
somewhere along your sources and you are done.
I'm not sure whether any runtime dlls are needed, but I suppose not.

We use cmake like that. We've committed a copy in our git repo, and have a
simple means to update cmake for everyone
in the team at once.

Jano

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Zaak Beekman  wrote:

> Ha, yeah that’s an option. The problem is that they’re not “my”
> contractors. They are the client’s contractors. We’ll see.
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:52 PM Cristian Adam 
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Zaak Beekman  wrote:
>>
>>> The situation is that we have a client who works with other contractors
>>> who use almost exclusively windows and MSVS. This client wants to
>>> distribute MSVS solution files with the source code so that other
>>> contractors don’t have to install cmake. (There are some restrictions/red
>>> tape for installing additional software on the contractor machines…)
>>>
>>
>> Why not distribute CMake as source code? Compile it so that they don't
>> have to "install" it.
>>
>> On the other hand Visual Studio 2017 comes with their own version of
>> CMake! Just make sure your contractors use VS2017 :D
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Cristian.
>>
>>
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Re: [CMake] Generating MSVS solution files that can be passed around

[Zaak Beekman]

Ha, yeah that’s an option. The problem is that they’re not “my”
contractors. They are the client’s contractors. We’ll see.
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:52 PM Cristian Adam 
wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Zaak Beekman  wrote:
>
>> The situation is that we have a client who works with other contractors
>> who use almost exclusively windows and MSVS. This client wants to
>> distribute MSVS solution files with the source code so that other
>> contractors don’t have to install cmake. (There are some restrictions/red
>> tape for installing additional software on the contractor machines…)
>>
>
> Why not distribute CMake as source code? Compile it so that they don't
> have to "install" it.
>
> On the other hand Visual Studio 2017 comes with their own version of
> CMake! Just make sure your contractors use VS2017 :D
>
> Cheers,
> Cristian.
>
>
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Re: [CMake] Generating MSVS solution files that can be passed around

[Cristian Adam]

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Zaak Beekman  wrote:

> The situation is that we have a client who works with other contractors
> who use almost exclusively windows and MSVS. This client wants to
> distribute MSVS solution files with the source code so that other
> contractors don’t have to install cmake. (There are some restrictions/red
> tape for installing additional software on the contractor machines…)
>

Why not distribute CMake as source code? Compile it so that they don't have
to "install" it.

On the other hand Visual Studio 2017 comes with their own version of CMake!
Just make sure your contractors use VS2017 :D

Cheers,
Cristian.
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Re: [CMake] Generating MSVS solution files that can be passed around

[Zaak Beekman]

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 11:51 AM Konstantin Tokarev 
wrote:

> Then your best choice is probably Premake (http://premake.github.io/)
>

No.

Big project. Have build system. CMake has 1st class language support for
Fortran. I can't introduce a LUA dependency.
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Re: [CMake] Generating MSVS solution files that can be passed around

[Konstantin Tokarev]

19.04.2018, 18:46, "Zaak Beekman" :
> Greetings fellow CMake users!
>
> While I know this topic has been discussed intermittently over the years I 
> was wondering if anyone had any further insight.
>
> The situation is that we have a client who works with other contractors who 
> use almost exclusively windows and MSVS. This client wants to distribute MSVS 
> solution files with the source code so that other contractors don’t have to 
> install cmake. (There are some restrictions/red tape for installing 
> additional software on the contractor machines…)

Then your best choice is probably Premake (http://premake.github.io/)

>
> I know the official party line is “CMake must use absolute paths, rerun CMake 
> to regenerate the MSVS solution files.” I also know that 
> CMAKE_USE_RELATIVE_PATHS was abandoned.
>
> Does anyone have any updated insight on this issue? Is there any mechanism, 
> other than either manually or automatically editing the solution files to 
> cause them to use relative paths?
>
> Another thought might be to include a statically linked CMake windows binary 
> with the source, but I need to investigate whether the CMake licensing allows 
> for that.
>
> Thanks,
> Zaak
>
> Izaak "Zaak" Beekman
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[CMake] Generating MSVS solution files that can be passed around

[Zaak Beekman]

Greetings fellow CMake users!

While I know this topic has been discussed intermittently over the years

I was wondering if anyone had any further insight.

The situation is that we have a client who works with other contractors who
use almost exclusively windows and MSVS. This client wants to distribute
MSVS solution files with the source code so that other contractors don’t
have to install cmake. (There are some restrictions/red tape for installing
additional software on the contractor machines…)

I know the official party line is “CMake must use absolute paths, rerun
CMake to regenerate the MSVS solution files.” I also know that
CMAKE_USE_RELATIVE_PATHS was abandoned.

Does anyone have any updated insight on this issue? Is there any mechanism,
other than either manually or automatically editing the solution files to
cause them to use relative paths?

Another thought might be to include a statically linked CMake windows
binary with the source, but I need to investigate whether the CMake
licensing allows for that.

Thanks,
Zaak

Izaak "Zaak" Beekman

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