Re: Stus-List Another project boat
I think I posted that ad a while ago. With fair sails you can assume you'll need new ones and the engine would still be in the boat if it ran - otherwise why remove it. So - $1500-2500 for a decent used engine or repair of the existing one. Likely that again for sails, depending on your Bacon's scrounging ability. Ignoring the interior for the moment, you are going to be into this boat for $4-6K and some of your time. OTOH you might get the boat for half the asking price, find the sails serviceable, and get the engine sorted for under $2K. I got my current engine from ship's chief engineer who wanted a hobby and rebuilt a used engine. He put it on Craigslist for $1500 and I bought it an hour or so later. Joe Della Barba COQUINA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Paine Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:45 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Another project boat The ridiculous part about these low prices is that the value of the keel for lead ($0.50 to $1.00/lb) exceeds the asking price for the boat. On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Knowles Rich r...@sailpower.camailto:r...@sailpower.ca wrote: Just thinking that might make an excellent sail training boat for a yacht club. The interior wouldn't matter and some sails could be found. If it floats its a great deal. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-03-21, at 18:02, Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.commailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com wrote: 27'4 1973 Fiberglass CC Sailboat - $1500 (Shadyside, MD) http://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/3667101664.html -- Joel 301 541 8551tel:301%20541%208551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Another project boat
Also I see no Deck hardware so add 4+ winches (2500 used ?) , turning blocks jam cleats clutches and running rigging Tim Matico , 33mkii + Email: mailto:tim.sip...@rci.rogers.com Toronto http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=250 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:25 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Another project boat I think I posted that ad a while ago. With fair sails you can assume you'll need new ones and the engine would still be in the boat if it ran - otherwise why remove it. So - $1500-2500 for a decent used engine or repair of the existing one. Likely that again for sails, depending on your Bacon's scrounging ability. Ignoring the interior for the moment, you are going to be into this boat for $4-6K and some of your time. OTOH you might get the boat for half the asking price, find the sails serviceable, and get the engine sorted for under $2K. I got my current engine from ship's chief engineer who wanted a hobby and rebuilt a used engine. He put it on Craigslist for $1500 and I bought it an hour or so later. Joe Della Barba COQUINA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Paine Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:45 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Another project boat The ridiculous part about these low prices is that the value of the keel for lead ($0.50 to $1.00/lb) exceeds the asking price for the boat. On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Knowles Rich r...@sailpower.ca wrote: Just thinking that might make an excellent sail training boat for a yacht club. The interior wouldn't matter and some sails could be found. If it floats its a great deal. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-03-21, at 18:02, Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com wrote: 27'4 1973 Fiberglass CC Sailboat - $1500 (Shadyside, MD) http://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/3667101664.html -- Joel 301 541 8551 tel:301%20541%208551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com This e-mail (and attachment(s)) is confidential, proprietary, may be subject to copyright and legal privilege and no related rights are waived. If you are not the intended recipient or its agent, any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail or any of its content is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. All messages may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations and our policies to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and you are deemed to have accepted any risk if you communicate with us by e-mail. If received in error, please notify us immediately and delete the e-mail (and any attachments) from any computer or any storage medium without printing a copy. Ce courriel (ainsi que ses pièces jointes) est confidentiel, exclusif, et peut faire l’objet de droit d’auteur et de privilège juridique; aucun droit connexe n’est exclu. Si vous n’êtes pas le destinataire visé ou son représentant, toute étude, diffusion, transmission ou copie de ce courriel en tout ou en partie, est strictement interdite et peut être illégale. Tous les messages peuvent être surveillés, selon les lois et règlements applicables et les politiques de protection de notre entreprise. Les courriels ne sont pas sécurisés et vous êtes réputés avoir accepté tous les risques qui y sont liés si vous choisissez de communiquer avec nous par ce moyen. Si vous avez reçu ce message par erreur, veuillez nous en aviser immédiatement et supprimer ce courriel (ainsi que toutes ses pièces jointes) de tout ordinateur ou support de données sans en imprimer une copie. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List (no subject)
Hey Fellow CCers Thinking about my next boat project. I'm looking for advise on an AIS transponder. I'm thinking about a Class B. Anyone been down this road that can help? Thanks -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List (no subject)
I have an AIS receiver-only and love it. Class A is better, as in more power and more frequent broadcasts, but it uses more power and costs about 5 times as much. Beware the FleaBay AIS units. Many of them seem to come from ship breakers in India and are missing parts. Also note many Class A units run on 24 volts. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Persuasion Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 10:49 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List (no subject) Hey Fellow CCers Thinking about my next boat project. I'm looking for advise on an AIS transponder. I'm thinking about a Class B. Anyone been down this road that can help? Thanks -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Another project boat
Hells bells, this is what you want to use to make your PHRF killer. An empty boat! Put a little one burner stove, porta-potti and an outboard on it and have at it! The worlds lightest 27! Gary - Original Message - From: Knowles Rich To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Another project boat The back stay adjuster and boarding ladder are classics. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-03-21, at 18:02, Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com wrote: 27'4 1973 Fiberglass CC Sailboat - $1500 (Shadyside, MD) http://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/3667101664.html -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Re East Coast lady
Thank you. She is a great boat. I will sail her in the Jean rebolt cup race this weekend from Savannah georgia to Charleston South Carolina if I can find a crew in time. I have spent many hours getting her back in shape. She nice now. and I get remarks all the time on her. I love this boat like non other. She and I will travel a lot this summer. thanks again for the kind words. On 3/21/13, Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net wrote: Great story, good pictures, good luck. You stole that boat and she looks happy you did. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:28:19 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Hypothetical (not really) question You need to look around and you will find a good boat in usable condition. I spent 6 months looking at abandoned mooring ball, boats and pick up a fine CC30 MK1 HIN # 675M81E. It was in bad shape cosmetically I gave $2500.00 for the old girl. She had water on the inside. She was full of dirt dobbers. The bright work was in bad shape. It took a lot of hours and elbow grease to get her back in shape. The Yanmar 12hp kicked right off, well with a squirt of WD-40. And has ran every time i needed it. Great little engine. The boat came with a ridged vang. It had 7 sail’s including 1) main 2) Racing Main 3) 115% jib with reefing 4) 135% geny 5) 155% 6) 170% drifter 7) Asymmetrical in a dousing sock. There was an Optimist dingy with sail. 2 anchors and a scuba diving set up. Insterment were ST4000 autohelm. Needed repair $100.00 + shipping st 50 TriData st50 Wind st50 multi st50 speed/depth 5 finders cushions’ need the plastic replaced and pro-cleand 350.00 I have maybe 4500.00 in repairs to the boat. I have sailed it with pride for the last 12 months. A great vessel with Plenty of room. When I had her hauled and cleaned, She had no CC smile. I did the usual bottom work. Cleaned, painted, thru-hulls, shaft seal replaced, Cutlass bearing.ect. No soft spots on the deck. i did have some leaking on the deck to side joint. To repair i just followed the manual's annual upkeep and tghtened the deck bolts 1/4 to 1/2 turn on every nut and wal-law no more water. My advice Look around and don’t be afraid to get dirty. That’s where you will find the savings. You got to brake open coal to find diamonds. Good luck Cheers from Capt. Curt and the East Coast Lady. http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/p/photos-of-progress.html On 3/20/13, djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com wrote: You know,All this being said... I got $4,700 for a really nice O'day 22 last year. Boat motor and trailer. Over the 5 years I owned her, she got New sails, new standing and running rigging, new 9.8hp outboard, new interior cushions, New teak toe rails, new rubrail.on and on and on. She showed really well and was obviously cared for and the buyer had commented that every other boat she looked at pretty much a mess. Mine was a true turn key and she didn't mind paying for it. I was asking $4,900 and she offered $4,200 without the trailer and I then sold the trailer to someone else for $500. It did take about a year and a half to sell it though. I didn't mind that much because I knew it was a nice boat and I used it the first year it was for sale and it didn't cost me anything to let it stay covered in my yard. Had I been paying storage fees and not using it, I probably would have taken a lot less... -- Original Message -- From: Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Hypothetical (not really) question Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 22:38:18 -0400 ![endif]--![endif]--I donrsquo;t believe there is a 33 in eastern North Carolina, but your description of the boat sounds very much like a 79-80 CC 30 which is for sale in my area and which I am familiar with. Old sails, old cushions, basic set of old instruments, no roller furling, basically clean interior and the topsides could use a good polish and wax. This one has a diesel ndash; Beta I think ndash; instead of an A4. Owner paid between $5500 and $6000 for the boat about two years ago, but his wife doesnrsquo;t like sailing or ldquo;campingrdquo; on the boat. So hersquo;s selling the boat to buy a fishing boat and spend time with his son. Hersquo;s asking $9k for the boat and hopes to get something close to $8. I guess Irsquo;m painfully aware that the market for old boats sucks. In the past year Irsquo;ve had a friend who sold his very nice late 70s Catalina 37 for $15k, and a live aboard I know who sold her nice 84 Catalina 36 for $18k. I have a friend who is looking at an average condition Hunter 27 in Oriental, NC. Yachtworld has several in the mid-Atlantic starting around $8900. The seller of this boat is down to $5900 OBO. Asking prices on Yachtworld donrsquo;t seem to have much relationship
Re: Stus-List (no subject)
I've been looking at the Si Tex. built in GPS antenna. Good Price. Joel Aronson On Mar 22, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Fellow CCers Thinking about my next boat project. I'm looking for advise on an AIS transponder. I'm thinking about a Class B. Anyone been down this road that can help? Thanks -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Della Barba, Joe joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov wrote: Nothing stopping anyone from using Class A but the . True. But I stand by my statement, using the word generally. Here's more on the differences between Class A and Class B: The International Maritime Organization (IMO) and the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea (SOLAS) requires AIS to be fitted aboard international voyaging ships with gross tonnage of 300, cargo ships of 500 gross tonnage and all passenger ships regardless of size. There are several important functional differences between AIS Class A and Class B transponders. - Class A meets the requirements of the IMO AIS carriage requirements and is standardized in SOLAS, while the Class B provides capabilities which are not fully compliant with IMO requirements. - A main difference is the data communication technology; Class A units utilize Self-Organizing Time-Division Multiple Access (SOTDMA) technology. This technology ensures that VHF transmissions of different transponders do not occur at the same time by synchronizing their data transmission to an exact timing standard, providing that no transmissions are missed. Class B units utilize Carrier-Sense TDMA (CSTDMA), which listens to the AIS network to determine if a slot is being used. Once the unit determines that the slot is open, it powers up its transmitter and broadcasts a 1 slot position report. The Class B is also required to listen for reservations from base stations and comply with these reservations. If the unit cannot find an open slot, it will not broadcast. - The reporting intervals are lower with a Class B transponder than a Class A transponder. - The transmitted AIS data from a Class B transponder is limited; a Class A transponder transmits and receives all required AIS data IF you go Class A, be prepared to be constantly changing your AIS data as far as Navigational Status (underway using engine, underway sailing, moored, at anchor, etc.), as this data is required to be in the Class A AIS datastream. Class B is a lot simpler, and really geared toward recreational use. Class A transponders also use significantly more power than Class B, not a non-issue to sailors. I don't see any benefit to spending the extra $$$, unless you think you'll be more visible to large vessels as a Class A vessel; that's a subject still being debated: http://www.panbo.com/archives/2010/04/the_class_b_ais_filtering_myth_revisited_argh.html http://www.panbo.com/archives/2010/12/class_b_ais_filtering_the_word_from_dr_norris.html Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Boat registration
Registration costs; licensing is free. it is confusing, isn't it? Marek (in Ottawa)___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Tsunamis
Subscribe to NRCan or USGS earthquake warning system. They send emails (or text messages, I think) within seconds of a quake. I am not sure how (publicly) available this is, but I bet that at least your Club or Marina can get it. In order for full disclosure, I get these alerts as part of my work, but I don't know how feasible is to subscribe individually. Another thing is that I bet that the BC government has a notification system on its own (fed from the same source, possibly available a bit easier). Marek (in Ottawa)___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List short season but beautiful- was in love again
Short season, but I've been through there on vacation and took the boat ride up the way to some rock caves; beautiful country. So I guess that makes up for the short season.Here, the season usually starts in MAR and can go into DEC, chilly but doable, but the scenery is pretty bland and there aren't any destinations.RonWild CheriCC 30STL --- On Fri, 3/22/13, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net wrote: From: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net Subject: Re: Stus-List Falling in love all over To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Friday, March 22, 2013, 9:02 AM Yeah, pretty much (the Bayfield season really kicks in around the Fourth of July) -- and Lake Superior never really warms up all that much. So we pack a lot into a very short season. September is usually pretty nice, and even early October can be good. But if you haven't hauled by Halloween, the Gales of November will get you... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 21, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Ronald B. Frerker rbfrer...@yahoo.com wrote: Your sailing season mustn't start 'til JUL. -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List AIS transponder referral
Mike, I'd check with Doug Miller at http://www.milltechmarine.com He's a sailor, a good guy and very well connected in the electronics/ais market. He' will be more knowledgeable and helpful than just about anybody at West, etc Fair prices too. No business connection, but sailing friend. Cheers, Lee Hey Fellow CCers Thinking about my next boat project. I'm looking for advise on an AIS transponder. I'm thinking about a Class B. Anyone been down this road that can help? Thanks -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List AIS transponder referral
He only carries a couple products. Joel Aronson On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Lee Youngblood leeyoungbl...@earthlink.net wrote: Mike, I'd check with Doug Miller at http://www.milltechmarine.com He's a sailor, a good guy and very well connected in the electronics/ais market. He' will be more knowledgeable and helpful than just about anybody at West, etc Fair prices too. No business connection, but sailing friend. Cheers, Lee Hey Fellow CCers Thinking about my next boat project. I'm looking for advise on an AIS transponder. I'm thinking about a Class B. Anyone been down this road that can help? Thanks -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List AIS transponder referral
I got my AIS gear from him. They have receivers, Class B, and Class A gear. See my previous links. Joe Della Barba Coquina -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:19 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List AIS transponder referral He only carries a couple products. Joel Aronson On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Lee Youngblood leeyoungbl...@earthlink.net wrote: Mike, I'd check with Doug Miller at http://www.milltechmarine.com He's a sailor, a good guy and very well connected in the electronics/ais market. He' will be more knowledgeable and helpful than just about anybody at West, etc Fair prices too. No business connection, but sailing friend. Cheers, Lee Hey Fellow CCers Thinking about my next boat project. I'm looking for advise on an AIS transponder. I'm thinking about a Class B. Anyone been down this road that can help? Thanks -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Tsunamis
Here's a question. If one were on the bay say around Annapolis, and Gibraltar fell into the Atlantic sending a 50M tsunami East, what would the situation be for riding that out in the middle of the bay in say 70' of water? Ron On Mar 22, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.com wrote: Subscribe to NRCan or USGS earthquake warning system. They send emails (or text messages, I think) within seconds of a quake. I am not sure how (publicly) available this is, but I bet that at least your Club or Marina can get it. In order for full disclosure, I get these alerts as part of my work, but I don't know how feasible is to subscribe individually. Another thing is that I bet that the BC government has a notification system on its own (fed from the same source, possibly available a bit easier). Marek (in Ottawa) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Tsunamis
You and your boat would be relocated to someplace in mid-Pennsylvania. You would enjoy the scenic river and canal system that connects Pittsburgh to the other sailing hot spots like Morgantown WV. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Kaye Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:25 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Tsunamis Here's a question. If one were on the bay say around Annapolis, and Gibraltar fell into the Atlantic sending a 50M tsunami East, what would the situation be for riding that out in the middle of the bay in say 70' of water? Ron On Mar 22, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.commailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com wrote: Subscribe to NRCan or USGS earthquake warning system. They send emails (or text messages, I think) within seconds of a quake. I am not sure how (publicly) available this is, but I bet that at least your Club or Marina can get it. In order for full disclosure, I get these alerts as part of my work, but I don't know how feasible is to subscribe individually. Another thing is that I bet that the BC government has a notification system on its own (fed from the same source, possibly available a bit easier). Marek (in Ottawa) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List CC 30
Just got a message back from the contact on SailNet. He went to check out the boat for me today. Uploaded a ton of photos apparently (I'll need to get home so I can check them out - I'll post a couple if people are interested). His comment - The boat is really quite nice, actually amazing for a 34 year old boat! Barry Sounds encouraging. I'll be looking closely at the photos and will have to decide on making an offer. Waiting to hear back from insurance broker on insurance cost. Of course then I have to decide how much to offer. He's asking $15900. Looking at all the avail boats the price is at the low end and the appearance/gear etc look excellent. Doubt I can knock a lot off the price, but maybe try $14000??? Of course dependent on a clear survey inc engine and rigging. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar B.Sc. D.C. FCCPOR(c) www.bedfordchiro.ca -- “In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.” Bill Cosby ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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If you could stay in the crest it would be quite a ride. I would think it would break perhaps repeatedly. The essential question is how large of a wave could you safely ride out in 70' of water do that the sides were not steep enough to cause pitchpole? Ron On Mar 22, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Della Barba, Joe joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov wrote: You and your boat would be relocated to someplace in mid-Pennsylvania. You would enjoy the scenic river and canal system that connects Pittsburgh to the other sailing hot spots like Morgantown WV. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Kaye Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:25 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Tsunamis Here's a question. If one were on the bay say around Annapolis, and Gibraltar fell into the Atlantic sending a 50M tsunami East, what would the situation be for riding that out in the middle of the bay in say 70' of water? Ron On Mar 22, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.com wrote: Subscribe to NRCan or USGS earthquake warning system. They send emails (or text messages, I think) within seconds of a quake. I am not sure how (publicly) available this is, but I bet that at least your Club or Marina can get it. In order for full disclosure, I get these alerts as part of my work, but I don't know how feasible is to subscribe individually. Another thing is that I bet that the BC government has a notification system on its own (fed from the same source, possibly available a bit easier). Marek (in Ottawa) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Tsunamis
Even in deep water, I'd be worried about the refraction/reflection effects in an enclosed body of water like the Chesapeake; the weird wave patterns could be quite severe. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 22, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Ron Kaye ronkaye...@gmail.com wrote: If you could stay in the crest it would be quite a ride. I would think it would break perhaps repeatedly. The essential question is how large of a wave could you safely ride out in 70' of water do that the sides were not steep enough to cause pitchpole? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Joel, Is this the SI-TEX unit that you were looking at? http://www.si-tex.com/index.php/product-information/ais/sas-300-ais-class-b-ais-transceiver-detail Although I don't have any of their hardware, I like the SI-TEX brand. They seem to occupy the value space. Value, like free wind, = good. :-) Full disclosure: I'm just a day-sailor who rarely ventures outside the mouth of the St Johns River in Florida. Despite this, I bought an MilTech AIS receiver 6 or 7 years ago because I thought it was really cool and relatively inexpensive. It once picked up the signal from an old tugboat in for repairs at Green Cove Springs. w00t. As for AIS (receivers), do folks think that a radar-like display of approaching targets is OK or even perhaps optimal? Or, is it be important to be able to put the nearby boats in the context of a chart? I know that many chart-plotters can interpret and display AIS data and predict potential collisions. But, might this be a good case for having a standalone unit, dedicated for nearby situational awareness - kinda like radar I suppose. Probably depends upon one's situation. :-) Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.comwrote: I've been looking at the Si Tex. built in GPS antenna. Good Price. Joel Aronson On Mar 22, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Fellow CCers Thinking about my next boat project. I'm looking for advise on an AIS transponder. I'm thinking about a Class B. Anyone been down this road that can help? Thanks -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List (no subject)
Bob No I will connect it to the plotter. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C344%7C2028691%7C2028908id=1849984 Joel Aronson On Mar 22, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Bob Moriarty bobmo...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, Is this the SI-TEX unit that you were looking at? http://www.si-tex.com/index.php/product-information/ais/sas-300-ais-class-b-ais-transceiver-detail Although I don't have any of their hardware, I like the SI-TEX brand. They seem to occupy the value space. Value, like free wind, = good. :-) Full disclosure: I'm just a day-sailor who rarely ventures outside the mouth of the St Johns River in Florida. Despite this, I bought an MilTech AIS receiver 6 or 7 years ago because I thought it was really cool and relatively inexpensive. It once picked up the signal from an old tugboat in for repairs at Green Cove Springs. w00t. As for AIS (receivers), do folks think that a radar-like display of approaching targets is OK or even perhaps optimal? Or, is it be important to be able to put the nearby boats in the context of a chart? I know that many chart-plotters can interpret and display AIS data and predict potential collisions. But, might this be a good case for having a standalone unit, dedicated for nearby situational awareness - kinda like radar I suppose. Probably depends upon one's situation. :-) Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.comwrote: I've been looking at the Si Tex. built in GPS antenna. Good Price. Joel Aronson On Mar 22, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Fellow CCers Thinking about my next boat project. I'm looking for advise on an AIS transponder. I'm thinking about a Class B. Anyone been down this road that can help? Thanks -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whining over short lake superior sailing season.
While growing up (in Wisconsin), I had to walk through 10 foot snow drifts to get to the marina. And we didn't even have a boat. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL ** *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Frederick G Street *Sent:* Friday, March 22, 2013 9:02 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Falling in love all over ** ** Yeah, pretty much (the Bayfield season really kicks in around the Fourth of July) -- and Lake Superior never *really* warms up all that much. So we pack a lot into a very short season. September is usually pretty nice, and even early October can be good. But if you haven't hauled by Halloween, the Gales of November will get you... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V *Oceanis* (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(* *** ** ** On Mar 21, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Ronald B. Frerker rbfrer...@yahoo.com wrote: Your sailing season mustn't start 'til JUL. ** ** ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Whining over short lake superior sailing season.
Probably up hill both coming and going. Fred Hazzard From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bob Moriarty Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:14 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whining over short lake superior sailing season. While growing up (in Wisconsin), I had to walk through 10 foot snow drifts to get to the marina. And we didn't even have a boat. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:02 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Falling in love all over Yeah, pretty much (the Bayfield season really kicks in around the Fourth of July) -- and Lake Superior never really warms up all that much. So we pack a lot into a very short season. September is usually pretty nice, and even early October can be good. But if you haven't hauled by Halloween, the Gales of November will get you... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 21, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Ronald B. Frerker rbfrer...@yahoo.com wrote: Your sailing season mustn't start 'til JUL. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 30
I tried to upload some photos via email - but they were too big, so I've loaded all the photos at full resolution into DropBox. Feel free to take a look and let me know what you think. https://plus.google.com/photos/110611663409773219866/albums/5858368414427128193?authkey=CKGJ-8HGzvSpJg Here's the posting on YachtWorld http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1979/C%26c-30-Sloop-2526936/Greenport/NY/United-States --- The boat looks quite good. Interior looks great - wood clean, chain plates don't show any obvious sign of water intrusion, nice cushions. (Closer zoom on one chain plate - looks rough?? Maybe not so good?) Carpet on sole is a bit odd - it looks from one photo like there is a teak-holly floor underneath? Maybe in need of re-finishing. Engine and wiring look good. Engine looks brand new (was apparently new in 2000). Roller furler looks ancient. And looks to have a warp high up in the foil. Any instruments? I see the radar and the auto pilot - but what about depth, speed, wind? There is a single box covered next to the companionway - could that contain all? Few sections of the outer rail look dinged up - not too bad but will need a bit of work. The one section of deck almost looks like its delaminating? Soft? Or is that just bad surface crazing? Also a crack in upper right of photo. No sign of jib sheet block tracks - or am I missing something? I'd expect a boat like this to have them. Did you see anything concerning that I'm missing? Any specific questions for broker? I'm tempted to make an offer on the boat, pending a survey of course. Thoughts on what kind of offer? Mark - Dr. Mark Bodnar B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) Bedford Chiropractic www.bedfordchiro.ca - There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 22/03/2013 6:51 PM, Mark Bodnar wrote: Just got a message back from the contact on SailNet. He went to check out the boat for me today. Uploaded a ton of photos apparently (I'll need to get home so I can check them out - I'll post a couple if people are interested). His comment - The boat is really quite nice, actually amazing for a 34 year old boat! Barry Sounds encouraging. I'll be looking closely at the photos and will have to decide on making an offer. Waiting to hear back from insurance broker on insurance cost. Of course then I have to decide how much to offer. He's asking $15900. Looking at all the avail boats the price is at the low end and the appearance/gear etc look excellent. Doubt I can knock a lot off the price, but maybe try $14000??? Of course dependent on a clear survey inc engine and rigging. Mark -- Dr. Mark Bodnar B.Sc. D.C. FCCPOR(c) www.bedfordchiro.ca -- “In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.” Bill Cosby ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
