Re: Stus-List Skanky hot water

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Water heaters are good breeding grounds for bacteria.  The anode and
scale/sediment can harbor the bacteria and make any form of draining and
filling ineffective.

Aluminum/zinc anodes are less likely to harbor the bacteria and thorough
removal of the sediment will help.

Much of the bacteria will be killed at temperatures over 160°F.  Take
whatever precausions are needed to prevent scalding.  I installed a thermal
mixing valve on mine to keep the water at the fixtures ~120 and keep the
heating element temperature set nearly as high as it will go.  More hot
water is a nice added advantage.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
 On Jun 3, 2014 2:25 PM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> If this water heater is like what I have, it should have the "input" and
> "output" hoses. If you disconnect them, you can rig a simple flushing
> solution (garden hose from the dock to the input and another hose out to
> the water). Any chemical solution would probably do (chlorine, lemon juice
> + soda, etc.)
>
> The major problem is, usually, access. So be prepared for a lot of scraped
> skin off your knuckles.
>
> Good luck
>
> Marek
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Dave Lane via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 12:14 PM
> To: via CnC-List
> Subject: Stus-List Skanky hot water
>
> Hi,
>
> On our 29-2, the hot water has been skanky (technical work for "it
> smells some") for years and I'd like to do something about if finally.
> The fresh water system is fine. It's a cube shaped 5 gallon unit that
> pre-dates our ownership of the boat. It is dual electric and engine hot
> water heated.
>
> Any suggestions on how I can flush it? Javex maybe? Clearly I don't want
> to do anything to wreck the cold water system.
>
> --- Dave
> 83 C&C 29-2
> St Margaret Sailing Club, NS
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C 24 rudder question

[Ed Dooley via CnC-List]

No, It's hanging on the stern, outside, for a Vermont winter, 5 winters in a 
row since I've bought the boat. A moisture meter implies gouging a hole through 
the fiberglass. Is that what you're suggesting?
Ed

> On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:21 PM, John Irvin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Do you dry it out over the winter? If no, try a moisture meter to check. My 
> 27 has drain plugs  I installed to dry out over the Ontario winter..
> From: Ed Dooley via CnC-List
> Sent: ‎2014-‎06-‎04 5:00 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 24 rudder question
> 
> After reading a few posts of rudder failure on C&C 24s, I thought I should 
> look into mine.
> It seems solid, but how do I know without drilling into it? There is a crack 
> in the fiberglass at the top of the rudder,
> but I can’t tell how far in it goes unless I dig into it. Any thoughts on 
> exploratory surgery? I know there are some doctors on this list.  :-)
> Thanks,
> Ed
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Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

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West marine sells ritchie compass oil.
On Jun 4, 2014 11:40 PM, "Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Thanks all. I used a pipe wrench and a piece of wood as a cushion and
> 'drove her home' (after taking any tension out of the rig). Worked out
> a-ok. Then I turned my attention to the binnacle and compass. Anyone know
> where a guy can get light mineral oil? I tried the pharmacy but all they
> had was heavy mineral oil. I have an aquamarine galaxy compass that
> developed an air bubble tonight .. oops.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:06 PM, John Irvin via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>>  Don't  forget a lucky coin!
>>  --
>> From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
>> Sent: 2014-06-04 8:56 PM
>> To: Stevan Plavsa ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> Others have given you good advice. Just count the turns on the shrouds as
>> you loosen the rig.   Use a pry bar to move it forward. No biggie.
>>
>> I put shims under my mast by loosening the rig, placing a vehicle jack
>> under a winch, lifting it and sliding the shims under the butt.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I made a stupid newbie mistake when we stepped the mast. In my defence
>> it was a busy, windy, choppy day and we had to hire a crane to come to the
>> club to step everyone's mast .. and I helped everyone, so when it came time
>> to do my boat I was kind of on autopilot. We stepped 29 masts that day.
>> >
>> > So I failed to remember that there are wedges fore and aft at the mast
>> base that keep the mast centered in the step. My girlfriend says to me the
>> other day while pointing at a pair of wedges in the boat .. did you forget
>> to put the wedges in the partner? Um, no I did not. Then I realized my
>> mistake and took a look at the mast base ... the mast is seated all the way
>> aft. I guess this would cause some forward rake? I'm all ears in regards to
>> how this might affect the rig, sail shape, etc?
>> >
>> > In any case, I'de like to center the thing and put the wedges where
>> they are supposed to go. I know I can loosen the tension on the rig and
>> I've used halyards in place of the forestay and shrouds on previous
>> occasions to fix this or that but even with the rig tension way down is the
>> weight of the mast itself going to prevent me from sliding it forward about
>> 1.5 inches? What would be the correct order to loosen the rig? Backstay,
>> lowers, uppers? I'de rather not futz with the forestay if I can help it but
>> I did just disconnect it about a week ago to fix a kink in the furler so
>> I'm not shy to do it again.
>> >
>> > Any help/recommendations are much appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Steve
>> > Suhana, C&C 32
>> > Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

[Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List]

Thanks all. I used a pipe wrench and a piece of wood as a cushion and
'drove her home' (after taking any tension out of the rig). Worked out
a-ok. Then I turned my attention to the binnacle and compass. Anyone know
where a guy can get light mineral oil? I tried the pharmacy but all they
had was heavy mineral oil. I have an aquamarine galaxy compass that
developed an air bubble tonight .. oops.

Thanks,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto



On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:06 PM, John Irvin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>  Don't  forget a lucky coin!
>  --
> From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> Sent: ‎2014-‎06-‎04 8:56 PM
> To: Stevan Plavsa ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast
>
> Steve,
>
> Others have given you good advice. Just count the turns on the shrouds as
> you loosen the rig.   Use a pry bar to move it forward. No biggie.
>
> I put shims under my mast by loosening the rig, placing a vehicle jack
> under a winch, lifting it and sliding the shims under the butt.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I made a stupid newbie mistake when we stepped the mast. In my defence
> it was a busy, windy, choppy day and we had to hire a crane to come to the
> club to step everyone's mast .. and I helped everyone, so when it came time
> to do my boat I was kind of on autopilot. We stepped 29 masts that day.
> >
> > So I failed to remember that there are wedges fore and aft at the mast
> base that keep the mast centered in the step. My girlfriend says to me the
> other day while pointing at a pair of wedges in the boat .. did you forget
> to put the wedges in the partner? Um, no I did not. Then I realized my
> mistake and took a look at the mast base ... the mast is seated all the way
> aft. I guess this would cause some forward rake? I'm all ears in regards to
> how this might affect the rig, sail shape, etc?
> >
> > In any case, I'de like to center the thing and put the wedges where they
> are supposed to go. I know I can loosen the tension on the rig and I've
> used halyards in place of the forestay and shrouds on previous occasions to
> fix this or that but even with the rig tension way down is the weight of
> the mast itself going to prevent me from sliding it forward about 1.5
> inches? What would be the correct order to loosen the rig? Backstay,
> lowers, uppers? I'de rather not futz with the forestay if I can help it but
> I did just disconnect it about a week ago to fix a kink in the furler so
> I'm not shy to do it again.
> >
> > Any help/recommendations are much appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> > Suhana, C&C 32
> > Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Don't  forget a lucky coin!

-Original Message-
From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
Sent: ‎2014-‎06-‎04 8:56 PM
To: "Stevan Plavsa" ; "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

Steve,

Others have given you good advice. Just count the turns on the shrouds as you 
loosen the rig.   Use a pry bar to move it forward. No biggie. 

I put shims under my mast by loosening the rig, placing a vehicle jack under a 
winch, lifting it and sliding the shims under the butt. 

Dennis C.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I made a stupid newbie mistake when we stepped the mast. In my defence it was 
> a busy, windy, choppy day and we had to hire a crane to come to the club to 
> step everyone's mast .. and I helped everyone, so when it came time to do my 
> boat I was kind of on autopilot. We stepped 29 masts that day.
> 
> So I failed to remember that there are wedges fore and aft at the mast base 
> that keep the mast centered in the step. My girlfriend says to me the other 
> day while pointing at a pair of wedges in the boat .. did you forget to put 
> the wedges in the partner? Um, no I did not. Then I realized my mistake and 
> took a look at the mast base ... the mast is seated all the way aft. I guess 
> this would cause some forward rake? I'm all ears in regards to how this might 
> affect the rig, sail shape, etc? 
> 
> In any case, I'de like to center the thing and put the wedges where they are 
> supposed to go. I know I can loosen the tension on the rig and I've used 
> halyards in place of the forestay and shrouds on previous occasions to fix 
> this or that but even with the rig tension way down is the weight of the mast 
> itself going to prevent me from sliding it forward about 1.5 inches? What 
> would be the correct order to loosen the rig? Backstay, lowers, uppers? I'de 
> rather not futz with the forestay if I can help it but I did just disconnect 
> it about a week ago to fix a kink in the furler so I'm not shy to do it again.
> 
> Any help/recommendations are much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Steve,

Others have given you good advice. Just count the turns on the shrouds as you 
loosen the rig.   Use a pry bar to move it forward. No biggie. 

I put shims under my mast by loosening the rig, placing a vehicle jack under a 
winch, lifting it and sliding the shims under the butt. 

Dennis C.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I made a stupid newbie mistake when we stepped the mast. In my defence it was 
> a busy, windy, choppy day and we had to hire a crane to come to the club to 
> step everyone's mast .. and I helped everyone, so when it came time to do my 
> boat I was kind of on autopilot. We stepped 29 masts that day.
> 
> So I failed to remember that there are wedges fore and aft at the mast base 
> that keep the mast centered in the step. My girlfriend says to me the other 
> day while pointing at a pair of wedges in the boat .. did you forget to put 
> the wedges in the partner? Um, no I did not. Then I realized my mistake and 
> took a look at the mast base ... the mast is seated all the way aft. I guess 
> this would cause some forward rake? I'm all ears in regards to how this might 
> affect the rig, sail shape, etc? 
> 
> In any case, I'de like to center the thing and put the wedges where they are 
> supposed to go. I know I can loosen the tension on the rig and I've used 
> halyards in place of the forestay and shrouds on previous occasions to fix 
> this or that but even with the rig tension way down is the weight of the mast 
> itself going to prevent me from sliding it forward about 1.5 inches? What 
> would be the correct order to loosen the rig? Backstay, lowers, uppers? I'de 
> rather not futz with the forestay if I can help it but I did just disconnect 
> it about a week ago to fix a kink in the furler so I'm not shy to do it again.
> 
> Any help/recommendations are much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
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Re: Stus-List C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport -- Suggestions on Stops

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

Hi Edd

 

Lots of great spots in the Noank / Mystic area and we have lots of good
restaurants nearby.  Same for Stonington or New London

 

Cheers

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd
Schillay via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:01 PM
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Subject: Stus-List C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport -- Suggestions on
Stops

 

Listers,

 

I'm considering bringing the Enterprise to the C&C Northeast
Rendezvous this September in Newport from Western Long Island Sound (The
rendezvous keeps moving further and further east and I fear the next time,
I'll have to set my clocks ahead an hour to attend.)

 

Does anyone have any recommendations of good places to dock or
grab a mooring (preferably dock, but will moor a few nights here and there)
in or near the following locations? 

 

1. Milford, CT (Night 1)

2. New London / Mystic area (Night 2)

3. Old Saybrook, CT (Night 5)

4. Port Jefferson, NY or near Bridgeport, CT (Night 6)

 

Prefer places that are picturesque with dining choices
within walking distance.  Only need 5 feet of depth (which you know if
you've been following the other thread). 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
 

 



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Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable?

[Curtis via CnC-List]

mine is a black cable it's a 10 foot by 75.
On May 27, 2014 3:26 PM, "Rick Brass via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Or go to your reputable auto parts store with the old cable. A Teledyne
> cable is a Teledyne cable. And probably less at the auto parts store than
> at a boat supplier - and more likely to be in stock instead of a special
> order.
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On May 27, 2014, at 12:09, Rich Knowles via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > Curtis, dig the old cable out and go to your marine supplier with the
> old one to make sure you have the right ends and length.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >> On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have a C&C30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left
> on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both.
> >> Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks Curtis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the
> dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with
> open eyes, to make it possible."
> >>
> >> T. E. Lawrence
> >>
> >> .
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Re: Stus-List C&C 24 rudder question

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Do you dry it out over the winter? If no, try a moisture meter to check. My 27 
has drain plugs  I installed to dry out over the Ontario winter..

-Original Message-
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Sent: ‎2014-‎06-‎04 5:00 PM
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Stus-List C&C 24 rudder question

After reading a few posts of rudder failure on C&C 24s, I thought I should look 
into mine.
It seems solid, but how do I know without drilling into it? There is a crack in 
the fiberglass at the top of the rudder,
but I can’t tell how far in it goes unless I dig into it. Any thoughts on 
exploratory surgery? I know there are some doctors on this list.  :-)
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Stus-List C&c ne rendezvous

[Maturo, John via CnC-List]

Ed

Send me a note at john.mat...@yale.edu. I have a slip in Branford and one in 
new London. Heidi and I may already be in watch hill or Newport by the time you 
transit. We are taking the week leading up to the rendezvous on the water. 

John Maturo
203-494-6782

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>  (Edd Schillay via CnC-List)
>   2. Re:  C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport -- Suggestions on
>  Stops (David Knecht via CnC-List)
>   3. Re:  C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport -- Suggestions on
>  Stops (Edd Schillay via CnC-List)
>   4. Re:  C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport -- Suggestions on
>  Stops (Jerome Tauber via CnC-List)
>   5.  Repositioning Mast (Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List)
>   6. Re:  Repositioning Mast (Pete Shelquist via CnC-List)
>   7. Re:  Repositioning Mast (Bill Coleman via CnC-List)
>   8. Re:  Repositioning Mast (Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List)
>   9. Re:  Repositioning Mast (Don Siddall via CnC-List)
>  10. Re:  C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport -- Suggestions on
>  Stops (David via CnC-List)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:00:58 -0400
> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> Subject: Stus-List C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport -- Suggestions
>onStops
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> 
> Listers,
> 
>I?m considering bringing the Enterprise to the C&C Northeast Rendezvous 
> this September in Newport from Western Long Island Sound (The rendezvous 
> keeps moving further and further east and I fear the next time, I?ll have to 
> set my clocks ahead an hour to attend.)
> 
>Does anyone have any recommendations of good places to dock or grab a 
> mooring (preferably dock, but will moor a few nights here and there) in or 
> near the following locations? 
> 
>1. Milford, CT (Night 1)
>2. New London / Mystic area (Night 2)
>3. Old Saybrook, CT (Night 5)
>4. Port Jefferson, NY or near Bridgeport, CT (Night 6)
> 
>Prefer places that are picturesque with dining choices within walking 
> distance.  Only need 5 feet of depth (which you know if you?ve been following 
> the other thread). 
> 
> 
>All the best,
> 
>Edd
> 
> 
>Edd M. Schillay
>Starship Enterprise
>C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>City Island, NY 
>Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:26:28 -0400
> From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
> To: Edd Schillay ,CnC CnC discussion list
>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport --
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> Hi Edd- I am a member and moored at Thames Yacht Club in New London and we 
> have transient mooring and dock space for a small fee.  I plan on going as 
> well so we might even be able to head over together.  Dave
> 
> Dr. David Knecht
> Professor, Molecular and Cell Biology
> Light Microscopy Core Facility Director
> University of Connecticut
> Storrs, CT.  06269
> 860-486-2200
> 
>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:00 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>>I?m considering bringing the Enterprise to the C&C Northeast Rendezvous 
>> this September in Newport from Western Long Island Sound (The rendezvous 
>> keeps moving further and further east and I fear the next time, I?ll have to 
>> set my clocks ahead an hour to attend.)
>> 
>>Does anyone hav

Stus-List C&C 24 rudder question

[Ed Dooley via CnC-List]

After reading a few posts of rudder failure on C&C 24s, I thought I should
look into mine.
It seems solid, but how do I know without drilling into it? There is a crack
in the fiberglass at the top of the rudder,
but I can¹t tell how far in it goes unless I dig into it. Any thoughts on
exploratory surgery? I know there are some doctors on this list.  :-)
Thanks,
Ed
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Re: Stus-List C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport -- Suggestions on Stops

[David via CnC-List]

All,

Please be patient with us...we are trying to work through a tiny detail about 
insurance and locating at SailNewport.

The dates are still firm for September 19, 20 & 21.

FYI...Edd has already volunteered to coordinate next years rendezvous to be 
held in Western Long Island Sound.   

Thanks Edd and stay tuned for details


David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:34:32 -0400
To: davidakne...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport -- Suggestions on
Stops
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

David,
Looks like a great stop — and it would be fun to head over to Newport 
together. 
Will try to keep up with you. 


All the best,
Edd

Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B   
City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log


On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:26 PM, David Knecht  wrote:Hi Edd- 
I am a member and moored at Thames Yacht Club in New London and we have 
transient mooring and dock space for a small fee.  I plan on going as well so 
we might even be able to head over together.  Dave

Dr. David KnechtProfessor, Molecular and Cell BiologyLight Microscopy Core 
Facility DirectorUniversity of ConnecticutStorrs, CT.  06269860-486-2200



On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:00 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
wrote:Listers,
I’m considering bringing the Enterprise to the C&C Northeast Rendezvous 
this September in Newport from Western Long Island Sound (The rendezvous keeps 
moving further and further east and I fear the next time, I’ll have to set my 
clocks ahead an hour to attend.)
Does anyone have any recommendations of good places to dock or grab a 
mooring (preferably dock, but will moor a few nights here and there) in or near 
the following locations? 
1. Milford, CT (Night 1)2. New London / Mystic area (Night 2)   
3. Old Saybrook, CT (Night 5)   4. Port Jefferson, NY or near Bridgeport, CT 
(Night 6)


Prefer places that are picturesque with dining choices within walking 
distance.  Only need 5 feet of depth (which you know if you’ve been following 
the other thread). 

All the best,
Edd

Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B   
City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log


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Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

[Don Siddall via CnC-List]

Steve:

In my 35-1 I have used a come-a-long inside the boat using a 2x4 to span 
between appropriate places inside as a bracing point for one end of the 
come-a-long. The other end connected to a rope tied loosely around the 
base of the mast. It was not a problem when the rigging is slack.


Don

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Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

[Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List]

Thanks guys, I was hoping it would be simple and doable. I'll see what I
can get accomplished today after work. As it turns out, I'm also testing a
new time lapse camera that I'll be placing on the breakwall today (I'm on a
three-point mooring right behind the breakwall, nice view). Hopefully you
won't all be seeing a time lapse video of my rig falling over.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto



On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Bill Coleman  wrote:

>  You really should use spartite or some other type urethane like Wally
> showed, it makes this all so simple.  If you make the right form B$ you
> pour, you can make a drip edge and it will keep the water out. (I will do
> this next time 8^) )
>
> Regarding your mast step, that is no problem, as long as it is in a metal
> box-like step.  Mine is in an aluminum casting, and I just loosen the rig
> (sides, and fore and aft) I keep a pry bar in my tool box, the kind you get
> from Sears on sale for 20  bucks for 4.
>
>
> http://www.sears.com/craftsman-professional-3-piece-curved-blade-pry-bar/p-00943288000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2
>
> have some little wood blocks to take up prying space.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan
> Plavsa via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 04, 2014 3:18 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Repositioning Mast
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I made a stupid newbie mistake when we stepped the mast. In my defence it
> was a busy, windy, choppy day and we had to hire a crane to come to the
> club to step everyone's mast .. and I helped everyone, so when it came time
> to do my boat I was kind of on autopilot. We stepped 29 masts that day.
>
>
>
> So I failed to remember that there are wedges fore and aft at the mast
> base that keep the mast centered in the step. My girlfriend says to me the
> other day while pointing at a pair of wedges in the boat .. did you forget
> to put the wedges in the partner? Um, no I did not. Then I realized my
> mistake and took a look at the mast base ... the mast is seated all the way
> aft. I guess this would cause some forward rake? I'm all ears in regards to
> how this might affect the rig, sail shape, etc?Â
>
>
>
> In any case, I'de like to center the thing and put the wedges where they
> are supposed to go. I know I can loosen the tension on the rig and I've
> used halyards in place of the forestay and shrouds on previous occasions to
> fix this or that but even with the rig tension way down is the weight of
> the mast itself going to prevent me from sliding it forward about 1.5
> inches? What would be the correct order to loosen the rig? Backstay,
> lowers, uppers? I'de rather not futz with the forestay if I can help it but
> I did just disconnect it about a week ago to fix a kink in the furler so
> I'm not shy to do it again.
>
>
>
> Any help/recommendations are much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> Suhana, C&C 32
>
> Toronto
>
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Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

You really should use spartite or some other type urethane like Wally
showed, it makes this all so simple.  If you make the right form B$ you
pour, you can make a drip edge and it will keep the water out. (I will do
this next time 8^) )

Regarding your mast step, that is no problem, as long as it is in a metal
box-like step.  Mine is in an aluminum casting, and I just loosen the rig
(sides, and fore and aft) I keep a pry bar in my tool box, the kind you get
from Sears on sale for 20  bucks for 4. 

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-professional-3-piece-curved-blade-pry-bar/p-0
0943288000P?prdNo=2
 &blockNo=2&blockType=G2

have some little wood blocks to take up prying space.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan
Plavsa via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 3:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

 

Hi All,

 

I made a stupid newbie mistake when we stepped the mast. In my defence it
was a busy, windy, choppy day and we had to hire a crane to come to the club
to step everyone's mast .. and I helped everyone, so when it came time to do
my boat I was kind of on autopilot. We stepped 29 masts that day.

 

So I failed to remember that there are wedges fore and aft at the mast base
that keep the mast centered in the step. My girlfriend says to me the other
day while pointing at a pair of wedges in the boat .. did you forget to put
the wedges in the partner? Um, no I did not. Then I realized my mistake and
took a look at the mast base ... the mast is seated all the way aft. I guess
this would cause some forward rake? I'm all ears in regards to how this
might affect the rig, sail shape, etc? 

 

In any case, I'de like to center the thing and put the wedges where they are
supposed to go. I know I can loosen the tension on the rig and I've used
halyards in place of the forestay and shrouds on previous occasions to fix
this or that but even with the rig tension way down is the weight of the
mast itself going to prevent me from sliding it forward about 1.5 inches?
What would be the correct order to loosen the rig? Backstay, lowers, uppers?
I'de rather not futz with the forestay if I can help it but I did just
disconnect it about a week ago to fix a kink in the furler so I'm not shy to
do it again.

 

Any help/recommendations are much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

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Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Steve - I haven’t done this on a boat as big as yours, but in the past we have 
taken a line from the butt of the mast forward to a snatch block and then back 
to a winch and grind it forward.  Not really as hard as it sounds.   Obviously 
get the rig loose first, etc.Hope that helps.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan 
Plavsa via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

 

Hi All,

 

I made a stupid newbie mistake when we stepped the mast. In my defence it was a 
busy, windy, choppy day and we had to hire a crane to come to the club to step 
everyone's mast .. and I helped everyone, so when it came time to do my boat I 
was kind of on autopilot. We stepped 29 masts that day.

 

So I failed to remember that there are wedges fore and aft at the mast base 
that keep the mast centered in the step. My girlfriend says to me the other day 
while pointing at a pair of wedges in the boat .. did you forget to put the 
wedges in the partner? Um, no I did not. Then I realized my mistake and took a 
look at the mast base ... the mast is seated all the way aft. I guess this 
would cause some forward rake? I'm all ears in regards to how this might affect 
the rig, sail shape, etc? 

 

In any case, I'de like to center the thing and put the wedges where they are 
supposed to go. I know I can loosen the tension on the rig and I've used 
halyards in place of the forestay and shrouds on previous occasions to fix this 
or that but even with the rig tension way down is the weight of the mast itself 
going to prevent me from sliding it forward about 1.5 inches? What would be the 
correct order to loosen the rig? Backstay, lowers, uppers? I'de rather not futz 
with the forestay if I can help it but I did just disconnect it about a week 
ago to fix a kink in the furler so I'm not shy to do it again.

 

Any help/recommendations are much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

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Stus-List Repositioning Mast

[Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List]

Hi All,

I made a stupid newbie mistake when we stepped the mast. In my defence it
was a busy, windy, choppy day and we had to hire a crane to come to the
club to step everyone's mast .. and I helped everyone, so when it came time
to do my boat I was kind of on autopilot. We stepped 29 masts that day.

So I failed to remember that there are wedges fore and aft at the mast base
that keep the mast centered in the step. My girlfriend says to me the other
day while pointing at a pair of wedges in the boat .. did you forget to put
the wedges in the partner? Um, no I did not. Then I realized my mistake and
took a look at the mast base ... the mast is seated all the way aft. I
guess this would cause some forward rake? I'm all ears in regards to how
this might affect the rig, sail shape, etc?

In any case, I'de like to center the thing and put the wedges where they
are supposed to go. I know I can loosen the tension on the rig and I've
used halyards in place of the forestay and shrouds on previous occasions to
fix this or that but even with the rig tension way down is the weight of
the mast itself going to prevent me from sliding it forward about 1.5
inches? What would be the correct order to loosen the rig? Backstay,
lowers, uppers? I'de rather not futz with the forestay if I can help it but
I did just disconnect it about a week ago to fix a kink in the furler so
I'm not shy to do it again.

Any help/recommendations are much appreciated.

Thanks,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
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Re: Stus-List C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport -- Suggestions on Stops

[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

I'll be coming from Three Mile Harbor.   Port Jeff has public moorings and 
Moorings are also available from the Setauket Yacht Club for $40.   Jerry. J&J. 
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
>   Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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Re: Stus-List C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport -- Suggestions on Stops

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

David,

Looks like a great stop — and it would be fun to head over to Newport 
together. 

Will try to keep up with you. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:26 PM, David Knecht  wrote:

> Hi Edd- I am a member and moored at Thames Yacht Club in New London and we 
> have transient mooring and dock space for a small fee.  I plan on going as 
> well so we might even be able to head over together.  Dave
> 
> Dr. David Knecht
> Professor, Molecular and Cell Biology
> Light Microscopy Core Facility Director   
> University of Connecticut
> Storrs, CT.  06269
> 860-486-2200
> 
> On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:00 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>>  I’m considering bringing the Enterprise to the C&C Northeast Rendezvous 
>> this September in Newport from Western Long Island Sound (The rendezvous 
>> keeps moving further and further east and I fear the next time, I’ll have to 
>> set my clocks ahead an hour to attend.)
>> 
>>  Does anyone have any recommendations of good places to dock or grab a 
>> mooring (preferably dock, but will moor a few nights here and there) in or 
>> near the following locations? 
>> 
>>  1. Milford, CT (Night 1)
>>  2. New London / Mystic area (Night 2)
>>  3. Old Saybrook, CT (Night 5)
>>  4. Port Jefferson, NY or near Bridgeport, CT (Night 6)
>> 
>>  Prefer places that are picturesque with dining choices within walking 
>> distance.  Only need 5 feet of depth (which you know if you’ve been 
>> following the other thread). 
>> 
>> 
>>  All the best,
>> 
>>  Edd
>> 
>> 
>>  Edd M. Schillay
>>  Starship Enterprise
>>  C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>>  City Island, NY 
>>  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
>> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport -- Suggestions on Stops

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

Hi Edd- I am a member and moored at Thames Yacht Club in New London and we have 
transient mooring and dock space for a small fee.  I plan on going as well so 
we might even be able to head over together.  Dave

Dr. David Knecht
Professor, Molecular and Cell Biology
Light Microscopy Core Facility Director 
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT.  06269
860-486-2200

On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:00 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
wrote:

> Listers,
> 
>   I’m considering bringing the Enterprise to the C&C Northeast Rendezvous 
> this September in Newport from Western Long Island Sound (The rendezvous 
> keeps moving further and further east and I fear the next time, I’ll have to 
> set my clocks ahead an hour to attend.)
> 
>   Does anyone have any recommendations of good places to dock or grab a 
> mooring (preferably dock, but will moor a few nights here and there) in or 
> near the following locations? 
> 
>   1. Milford, CT (Night 1)
>   2. New London / Mystic area (Night 2)
>   3. Old Saybrook, CT (Night 5)
>   4. Port Jefferson, NY or near Bridgeport, CT (Night 6)
> 
>   Prefer places that are picturesque with dining choices within walking 
> distance.  Only need 5 feet of depth (which you know if you’ve been following 
> the other thread). 
> 
> 
>   All the best,
> 
>   Edd
> 
> 
>   Edd M. Schillay
>   Starship Enterprise
>   C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>   City Island, NY 
>   Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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Stus-List C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Newport -- Suggestions on Stops

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

I’m considering bringing the Enterprise to the C&C Northeast Rendezvous 
this September in Newport from Western Long Island Sound (The rendezvous keeps 
moving further and further east and I fear the next time, I’ll have to set my 
clocks ahead an hour to attend.)

Does anyone have any recommendations of good places to dock or grab a 
mooring (preferably dock, but will moor a few nights here and there) in or near 
the following locations? 

1. Milford, CT (Night 1)
2. New London / Mystic area (Night 2)
3. Old Saybrook, CT (Night 5)
4. Port Jefferson, NY or near Bridgeport, CT (Night 6)

Prefer places that are picturesque with dining choices within walking 
distance.  Only need 5 feet of depth (which you know if you’ve been following 
the other thread). 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

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Re: Stus-List Sealed-Up Centerboard and PHRF Credit

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Chuck,

I don’t think it needs to be dry in there. A small hole in the bottom 
of the keel will drain whatever is in there every time the boat is hauled. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Chuck S  wrote:

> Very logical evaluation Captain,
> 
> Just a concern?  How will you winterize the centerboard trunk?  How will you 
> be sure it is dry in there?
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
> 
> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 1:35:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealed-Up Centerboard and PHRF Credit
> 
> Paul,
> 
>  It’s been a hell of an experience. Turns out the divers went down on Sunday 
> (I was on board working on other things) and they told me they couldn’t get 
> their hands/tools in there to get the cotter pins undone to pull the peg out 
> and connect a new cable. Turns out cable replacement access isn’t all that 
> great on a 37+ and requires a haul every time. Plus, where the cable was 
> frayed, based on my measurements, was somewhere in the system that nobody 
> could ever view without taking the whole damn thing apart. 
> 
>  Add to that — we could not push a new cable down because it starts on deck, 
> makes a 90-degree turn down through a stainless tube, then, in the bilge and 
> completely sealed, it makes another 90-degree turn aft, and then a quick 
> additional 90-degree turn down. Could not get the cable to make that last 
> turn. 
> 
>  And then I thought I’m going to have to do all this again in 5 years. And 
> maybe it will break again. And maybe the next time it breaks it will do some 
> serious keel damage. I just said, and I quote, “Screw it!”
> 
>  The yard is pulling the boat today, pushing the board in, bolting it in 
> place and sealing the slot. As far as I can tell, I’ll have the only 
> shoal-draft C&C 37+ on the planet (or, using terms we usually use on the 
> boat, the galaxy).
> 
>  There were, of course, two concerns: Performance and Resale Value. 
> 
>  Performance upwind in 10+ will be affected, but let’s be honest, we only use 
> the board when racing, have found it to slow us down in under 10 and, if 
> you’re familiar with Western Long Island Sound, days of 10+ are few and far 
> between. Add to that the limited about of racing we do (non-spin in a beer 
> can night series only) and the cost/worry of maintaining a centerboard 
> system, I decided I could live with the reduced performance. 
> 
>  As to resale value, I think the board is really only a value to a 
> racing-oriented owner, and it’s not a C&C 37R, but a C&C 37+. I think 
> racing-oriented shoppers are going to be looking for J-Boats, Beneteaus, etc. 
> and not a 18,500 lb.-displacement cruiser. I also think that a prospective 
> buyer will like the idea of a shoal-draft roomy cruiser with a now 
> zero-maintence keel.
> 
>  Of course, I may be wrong, but as I tell people, “I may not always be right, 
> but I’m never in doubt.” 
> 
>  Either way, it’s getting done today/tomorrow. 
> 
> 
>  All the best,
> 
>  Edd
> 
> 
>  Edd M. Schillay
>  Starship Enterprise
>  C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>  City Island, NY 
>  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Paul Fountain  wrote:
> 
> Edd,
> 
> I can smile and relate to your cb challenges... 
> 
> 2 years ago when we moved Perception to the yard for winter storage I had 2 
> friends help.. 1 a power boater the other a sailor, asked the sailor to 
> release the starboard jib halyard - clearly marked  And guess which 
> stopper he pulled .. Yup the centreboard ... And the cable snapped.
> 
> We were able to hauler her and put her in her cradle for the winter. Pulled 
> the cable out and it was badly corroded ... Just a few strands intact so over 
> due for replacement. Arranged to have south shore yachts do the replacement - 
> and when ghey removed the pin and remaining cable the pin was 70% or more 
> worn thru, the thimble was also well worn ...
> 
> Good thing it happened in a calm harbour  And the admiral was not on 
> board.
> 
> The new fittings look much more substantial and should out last my sailing 
> days!
> 
> Paul. :)
> 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:41 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Just curious — does anyone, or know of anyone, who sealed up their 
> centerboard and received a PHRF credit on their rating? I’m curious to know 
> how much credit was given. I’ve been told it can be anywhere from 3-9 points. 
> ‘
> 
> Mine is getting bolted in place and sealed up for good tomorrow. 
> 
> Long story, but now is the time. Read the Captain’s Log if you’re curious.
> 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise (To be the world’s only shoal-draft C&C 37+)
> C&C 37+ | 

Re: Stus-List Advice on Window replacement on C&C 30 Mk1

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I have the exact same ports on my 35. It isn't too bad of a job. I even cut my 
own ports by tracing the old ones on the new plexi. I upgraded from 1/8 to 1/4 
plexi just to be safe, but I will say the old ones withstood some pretty rough 
service with breaking waves washing over the boat.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
Jorgensen via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 8:48 AM
To: 'Joe at Zialater'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Advice on Window replacement on C&C 30 Mk1

Thanks Joe.  I'll take a look at SSY.  Nice to know that it is not a major 
repair.
Regards,
Rick Jorgensen

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe at 
Zialater via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:59 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Advice on Window replacement on C&C 30 Mk1

Hi Rick,

I replaced the seals on my 1975 30 MK1 last year.  It was an absolute breeze.  
Got the parts from South shore yachts - just measure and order.
Take out the old gaskets and clean the aluminum frames.  If your windows are 
shot (mine were fine) just use the old windows to as a template for the new 
ones.  Reinstall windows with the sticky back seal and then the gaskets.
Took about an hour to do all four - no leaks and they look great.  If I recall, 
 the south shore kit included detailed instructions.

Good luck,

Joe Boyle
'75 30 MK1 "Zia"
Annapolis


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Re: Stus-List Advice on Window replacement on C&C 30 Mk1

[Richard Jorgensen via CnC-List]

Thanks Joe.  I'll take a look at SSY.  Nice to know that it is not a major
repair.
Regards,
Rick Jorgensen

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe at
Zialater via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:59 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Advice on Window replacement on C&C 30 Mk1

Hi Rick,

I replaced the seals on my 1975 30 MK1 last year.  It was an absolute
breeze.  Got the parts from South shore yachts - just measure and order.
Take out the old gaskets and clean the aluminum frames.  If your windows are
shot (mine were fine) just use the old windows to as a template for the new
ones.  Reinstall windows with the sticky back seal and then the gaskets.
Took about an hour to do all four - no leaks and they look great.  If I
recall,  the south shore kit included detailed instructions.

Good luck,

Joe Boyle
'75 30 MK1 "Zia"
Annapolis


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