Stus-List Morring available in Newport
Hi Burt, and any other local CC transients, I’ll be away this coming weekend, and also entire week of august 18th. If anyone is interested in using my mooring let me know. Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 CC 38MkII Newport, RI From: Burt Stratton [mailto:bstrat...@falconnect.com] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 9:32 AM To: 'Petar Horvatic'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: RE: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Respectfully, that all depends on what you paid for the boat. I am happily renewing my 1974 33 foot 3/4ton without breaking the bank and I am virtually certain the value of the boat will increase beyond the money I am spending. Like anything, if you buy right and have some talent you have opportunity to invest a bit without worrying about losing your hard earned $$. I paid almost nothing for a complete and solid yet neglected hull with a very nice rig. Replacing all the windows and hatch lenses with polycarbonate cost less than $600. Renewing the interior will cost me some stripping supplies, varnish and paint. The cushion covers will be the biggest expense. Next year the hull and deck will get a new paint job. I will also completely re-wire both AC and DC systems. When I am done it will be very pretty and comfortable I will be into it for about $4k total, including the purchase of the boat….. (I do the bulk of the work myself) I am not including the normal cost of owning and using a boat. Now if I start doing things like a new diesel, radar, etc, it would quickly become a losing proposition but I like the A-4. I am on the lookout for a used radar/chartplotter in case anyone comes across something tempting.. Peter, we will with any luck be in Newport sometime later this month for a well-earned weekend on the hook. I’ll keep an eye out for the Sundowner. Ship CC 33 3/4ton Portsmouth, RI From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Petar Horvatic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 9:06 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; 'Ebay' Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC You never get back the money you put upgrading a used sailboat. That will never sell at that price. It’s a balsa cored production sailboat. Not a Hinckley or Alden. On the other hand, note to myself don’t look for used sailboats in the Bay area. Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 CC 38MkII Newport, RI From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:54 PM To: Ebay; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Wow! A fully tweaked CC 43. Beautiful lines. Sweet sheerline and love how the cabintop blends into the foredeck. Great upgrades. First class job, but I don't think they'll get half of what they are asking.There are so many other choices on the market for less than $175K. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _ From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:46:36 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Shame really. Someone put some money into her. More money to go I'm afraid. John Sent from my iPad On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Discounted already…….. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/C-%26-C-Custom-2598240/Sanfrancisco/CA/United-States From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:41 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List big $$$ used CC http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/4585762460.html Nice Expensive Joe Della Barba Coquina ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Morring available in Newport + Corsica
Nice offer ☺ Speaking of which, did someone want to use my mooring? I sort of recall someone asking about my mooring at CRYC bit it got lost in email-land. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Petar Horvatic via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:00 AM To: 'Burt Stratton'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Morring available in Newport Hi Burt, and any other local CC transients, I’ll be away this coming weekend, and also entire week of august 18th. If anyone is interested in using my mooring let me know. Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 CC 38MkII Newport, RI From: Burt Stratton [mailto:bstrat...@falconnect.com] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 9:32 AM To: 'Petar Horvatic'; cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: RE: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Respectfully, that all depends on what you paid for the boat. I am happily renewing my 1974 33 foot 3/4ton without breaking the bank and I am virtually certain the value of the boat will increase beyond the money I am spending. Like anything, if you buy right and have some talent you have opportunity to invest a bit without worrying about losing your hard earned $$. I paid almost nothing for a complete and solid yet neglected hull with a very nice rig. Replacing all the windows and hatch lenses with polycarbonate cost less than $600. Renewing the interior will cost me some stripping supplies, varnish and paint. The cushion covers will be the biggest expense. Next year the hull and deck will get a new paint job. I will also completely re-wire both AC and DC systems. When I am done it will be very pretty and comfortable I will be into it for about $4k total, including the purchase of the boat….. (I do the bulk of the work myself) I am not including the normal cost of owning and using a boat. Now if I start doing things like a new diesel, radar, etc, it would quickly become a losing proposition but I like the A-4. I am on the lookout for a used radar/chartplotter in case anyone comes across something tempting.. Peter, we will with any luck be in Newport sometime later this month for a well-earned weekend on the hook. I’ll keep an eye out for the Sundowner. Ship CC 33 3/4ton Portsmouth, RI From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Petar Horvatic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 9:06 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com; 'Ebay' Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC You never get back the money you put upgrading a used sailboat. That will never sell at that price. It’s a balsa cored production sailboat. Not a Hinckley or Alden. On the other hand, note to myself don’t look for used sailboats in the Bay area. Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 CC 38MkII Newport, RI From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:54 PM To: Ebay; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Wow! A fully tweaked CC 43. Beautiful lines. Sweet sheerline and love how the cabintop blends into the foredeck. Great upgrades. First class job, but I don't think they'll get half of what they are asking.There are so many other choices on the market for less than $175K. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:46:36 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Shame really. Someone put some money into her. More money to go I'm afraid. John Sent from my iPad On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Discounted already…….. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/C-%26-C-Custom-2598240/Sanfrancisco/CA/United-States From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:41 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List big $$$ used CC http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/4585762460.html Nice Expensive Joe Della Barba Coquina ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo
Re: Stus-List A4 engine problems
a small % of gasoline in diesel is OK. I would not go for more than 5% at most
for a short time. I had a diesel Golf, used to fill up in Mexico (at that time
1/5th price). Once I filled up at a different pump, got dirty fuel (some
'bugs' and water). A gallon of gas in 20+ gallon of diesel did the trick, the
tanks (2) were clean with a 1/2 cup full of gunk in the bottom. No more stuff
in the per-filter. Sold the car 80-100K miles later, at 190K. Never any
problem.
Leslie.
On Tue, 8/5/14, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Subject: Re: Stus-List A4 engine problems
To: Burt Stratton bstrat...@falconnect.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 2:45 PM
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Better diesel in your gas
tank than the other way around!
I have been told that up to 10%
gasoline in a large (25 gal) diesel tank would still be
OK to use. I picked this up when discussing diesel truck
refueling issues.
I friend of mine with a fleet of diesel trucks panicked
when he looked down and noticed he stuck a gas nozzle into
his diesel tank. He paid for a tow and to have the tank
drained and cleaned. Afterword’s we discussed the event
and he thought he had put in
5 to 10 gal of gas into a 40 gal tank.
I recommend you check your engine
owner’s manual before paying $$ to pump out a diesel tank
with a few gallons of gasoline added.
Martin
Calypso
1971 CC 43
Seattle
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On Behalf Of Burt Stratton via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 2:16 PM
To: 'Stevan Plavsa'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List A4 engine problems
Better diesel in your gas tank
than the other way around!
Not sure my marina would go to
those lengths to make good on that.
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On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 5:11 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List A4 engine problems
I've replaced the
entire fuel system except the tank. I think it's
aluminum. I did free it once to lift it up so I could see
underneath. No noticeable corrosion.
New fill hose, vent,
lines, racor and polishing filter.
Last year the attendant at
a marina I was at accidentally filled the tank with diesel!
The marina paid for a waste disposal truck to come down and
pump the tank out. Then we put about 10 litres of gasoline
in and pumped that out too. I
like to think I got a free tank cleaning ... they paid for
the fill, dinner, a night at the marina and a LIMO (to take
us to dinner). Yeah, they made good on their mistake, and
then some.
Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto
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Stus-List big $$$ used CC
Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . My boat is a 1990 but was in need of maintenance. I spent over $1,000.00 just on partial (Very partial) replacement on running rigging and over $ 3,000.00 on Little Stuff like paint, door handles, clam cleats, hoses.. This is all stuff you don't really notice until you start going through it all in details / or they start failing. Most items are less than 100 bucks but when you have 50+ of them, it adds up in a big hurry. I'll be glad to share my spreadsheet detailing it all if you PM me. -Francois 1990 CC 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Georgia ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Morring available in Newport + Corsica
Petar, That is a very nice offer. I just scheduled to launch my boat Friday but I doubt we will get to the point of making a trip to Newport this weekend. Still a lot to do to set up for a weekend aboard. Really appreciate the offer, though. Burt From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:55 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Morring available in Newport + Corsica Nice offer J Speaking of which, did someone want to use my mooring? I sort of recall someone asking about my mooring at CRYC bit it got lost in email-land. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Petar Horvatic via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:00 AM To: 'Burt Stratton'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Morring available in Newport Hi Burt, and any other local CC transients, I’ll be away this coming weekend, and also entire week of august 18th. If anyone is interested in using my mooring let me know. Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 CC 38MkII Newport, RI From: Burt Stratton [mailto:bstrat...@falconnect.com] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 9:32 AM To: 'Petar Horvatic'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: RE: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Respectfully, that all depends on what you paid for the boat. I am happily renewing my 1974 33 foot 3/4ton without breaking the bank and I am virtually certain the value of the boat will increase beyond the money I am spending. Like anything, if you buy right and have some talent you have opportunity to invest a bit without worrying about losing your hard earned $$. I paid almost nothing for a complete and solid yet neglected hull with a very nice rig. Replacing all the windows and hatch lenses with polycarbonate cost less than $600. Renewing the interior will cost me some stripping supplies, varnish and paint. The cushion covers will be the biggest expense. Next year the hull and deck will get a new paint job. I will also completely re-wire both AC and DC systems. When I am done it will be very pretty and comfortable I will be into it for about $4k total, including the purchase of the boat….. (I do the bulk of the work myself) I am not including the normal cost of owning and using a boat. Now if I start doing things like a new diesel, radar, etc, it would quickly become a losing proposition but I like the A-4. I am on the lookout for a used radar/chartplotter in case anyone comes across something tempting.. Peter, we will with any luck be in Newport sometime later this month for a well-earned weekend on the hook. I’ll keep an eye out for the Sundowner. Ship CC 33 3/4ton Portsmouth, RI From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Petar Horvatic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 9:06 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; 'Ebay' Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC You never get back the money you put upgrading a used sailboat. That will never sell at that price. It’s a balsa cored production sailboat. Not a Hinckley or Alden. On the other hand, note to myself don’t look for used sailboats in the Bay area. Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 CC 38MkII Newport, RI From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:54 PM To: Ebay; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Wow! A fully tweaked CC 43. Beautiful lines. Sweet sheerline and love how the cabintop blends into the foredeck. Great upgrades. First class job, but I don't think they'll get half of what they are asking.There are so many other choices on the market for less than $175K. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _ From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:46:36 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Shame really. Someone put some money into her. More money to go I'm afraid. John Sent from my iPad On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Discounted already…….. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/C-%26-C-Custom-2598240/Sanfrancisco/CA/United-States From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:41 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List big $$$ used CC http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/4585762460.html Nice Expensive Joe Della Barba Coquina ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Head sink backing up?
I have a 1985 CC 33-2. I just noticed that the sink in the head was backing up. The sink has not been used at all. What would cause this? What is the plumbing configuration and are there any diagrams available? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ray LakeHouse Libertyville IL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
PS. Note the incredible number of expenses less than $50US. Those little trips for fasteners and epoxy and paint brushes and sandpaper and stuff really add up. I wrote: Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
OMG... If i kept that that kind of accounting foe my boat I'd probably want to shoot myself!!! LOL There is LOTS of things I conveniently forget that I had to pay for!!! LOL Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:39:48 + Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Head sink backing up?
Ray, On my CC 38 the bilge pump is routed into the overboard discharge of the sink in the head. If the discharge line becomes partially or fully blocked, the bilge water will back up into the sink. I would first check the overboard discharge valve and ensure it is fully open. If it is open, then most likely you have some gunk in the hose. Good luck! Pat On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:38 PM, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a 1985 CC 33-2. I just noticed that the sink in the head was backing up. The sink has not been used at all. What would cause this? What is the plumbing configuration and are there any diagrams available? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ray LakeHouse Libertyville IL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
If I kept that kind of accounting for my business I could probably afford a bigger boat :( -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:48 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC OMG... If i kept that that kind of accounting foe my boat I'd probably want to shoot myself!!! LOL There is LOTS of things I conveniently forget that I had to pay for!!! LOL Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:39:48 + Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Head sink backing up?
This is similar vintage to my 35-3, which has a drain straight down inside the 'vanity' to a through-hull valve. Make sure that valve is open to start with. There aren't any u-traps on my setup (you should be able to see under the sink), so you would probably be able to get a coat hanger or longer wire down to rod out any barnacles that may have set up home in there... Alternatively, close the through hull and check the hose to start with. We have to close the through hull when on a very heeled starboard tack otherwise the sink fills - that may be how the PO left it. Tim CC 35-3 Mojito Branford, CT On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a 1985 CC 33-2. I just noticed that the sink in the head was backing up. The sink has not been used at all. What would cause this? What is the plumbing configuration and are there any diagrams available? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ray LakeHouse Libertyville IL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Head sink backing up?
My head sink was getting worse and worse until it took 20 minutes to drain. I poured Clorox down it and now it works perfect again. Seems it killed all the algae and such that was growing in it. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:24 PM To: Tim Goodyear; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Raymond Macklin Subject: Re: Stus-List Head sink backing up? The PO on my 35-3 put a gate? valve in the hose between the sink and the through hull. It is accessible via the lifting panel forward of the sink. Allows me to prevent sink fill-up on a starboard tack without accessing the through hull which is under the v berth cushions. -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Aug 6, 2014, at 14:08, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This is similar vintage to my 35-3, which has a drain straight down inside the 'vanity' to a through-hull valve. Make sure that valve is open to start with. There aren't any u-traps on my setup (you should be able to see under the sink), so you would probably be able to get a coat hanger or longer wire down to rod out any barnacles that may have set up home in there... Alternatively, close the through hull and check the hose to start with. We have to close the through hull when on a very heeled starboard tack otherwise the sink fills - that may be how the PO left it. Tim CC 35-3 Mojito Branford, CT On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a 1985 CC 33-2. I just noticed that the sink in the head was backing up. The sink has not been used at all. What would cause this? What is the plumbing configuration and are there any diagrams available? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ray LakeHouse Libertyville IL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
Danny - I've been using Quicken since the 1980's. These days it's easy -- just push a button and all transactions for your linked accounts are downloaded into your computer. Back then it was much tougher, and I had to dedicate an afternoon a month to data input. But it's worth it. Some people assume I have a 'bunch' of money, but the truth is that I just keep control of the little that I have, know where it's coming from and where it's going. For years, every morning I'd make coffee, and run two custom reports which were basically a P/L and Balance Sheet. One was titled 'Cash Out Value' to let me know how much money I'd have if I checked out and took off on the boat. It helped me to meet my defined objective. And it's cheap. I wouldn't use the new on-line version, though, because I wouldn't want all that information on someone else's server, that could be subpenaed. Down here, though, it's a cash economy, and I'm back to the 1980's... Wal Danny Haughey wrote: OMG... If i kept that that kind of accounting foe my boat I'd probably want to shoot myself!!! LOL There is LOTS of things I conveniently forget that I had to pay for!!! LOL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Replacing Rub Rail - Landfall 35
Vim or some cleaner with a bit of grit works on the rubrail and also on dirty fenders. -Original Message- From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: 2014-08-06 1:08 PM To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Replacing Rub Rail - Landfall 35 I have a Landfall 38 and I replaced a short section of my rub rail a long time ago--it rubbed up against a piling real seriously. It wasn't that big a problem but it was just a short length (maybe 3 feet long) and it was near the anchor well where I had good access to bolts. If you look closely at the underside of the hull-to-deck joint there are both thru bolts (the permanent fastening) and screws (probably temporary fastening during construction). This means you will have to completely remove the teak toe rail to get at the heads of the screws for their removal. (You would have to remove and reinstall the toe rail anyway.) Even though the part of the rub rail that sticks out beyond the hull is not structural or will not affect leak tight integrity, I think if you cut it off and put something else over it, it will look cheap. Also, I wouldn't want to add a bunch of screw holes into my hull (to mount a new rub rail over the old) just at the structural joint between the deck and the hull. I can tell you that the rub rail is made from white EPDM and paint does not stick well to EPDM. I'd bet you can scrape it off rather easily--you could also use a varnish remover to make it come off easier but be careful about this touching the hull. I think that before you try some Rube Goldberg fix like putting another rub rail over the outside, I would try very hard to clean the paint off. If the paint doesn't come off, I think I would try replacing the rub rail by removing the entire toe rail and all the screws. Then, try replace just a few feet at a time until you are all around the perimeter of the boat. There is probably enough flex in the outer part of the deck to do this. It would be a big job and it would be best done out of the water. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Replacing Rub Rail - Landfall 35 Now Landfall 38 rub rail
Hi, I was a bit surprised to hear people discuss about a white rub rail on the Landfall 38. I assumed they were all teak as I have on my LF38. That is, I have an iconic LF teak toe rail which bolts through the deck along with a separate teak rub rail (~ 1-1/2 x 5/8 ) which is screwed onto the bottom outside of the toe rail. I have just looked online, and I now notice other LF38 with the white rub rails, but I don't see any with a teak rub rail. Does anyone know if the teak rub rail was a factory option or was it likely a previous owner upgrade? - Paul Eugenio 1981 CC Landfall 38 S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 13:07:50 -0400 From: Robert Boyer dainyr...@icloud.com To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Replacing Rub Rail - Landfall 35 Message-ID: dbbabd07-856d-4fbb-a3ac-8b228e5ac...@icloud.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a Landfall 38 and I replaced a short section of my rub rail a long time ago--it rubbed up against a piling real seriously. It wasn't that big a problem but it was just a short length (maybe 3 feet long) and it was near the anchor well where I had good access to bolts. If you look closely at the underside of the hull-to-deck joint there are both thru bolts (the permanent fastening) and screws (probably temporary fastening during construction). This means you will have to completely remove the teak toe rail to get at the heads of the screws for their removal. (You would have to remove and reinstall the toe rail anyway.) Even though the part of the rub rail that sticks out beyond the hull is not structural or will not affect leak tight integrity, I think if you cut it off and put something else over it, it will look cheap. Also, I wouldn't want to add a bunch of screw holes into my hull (to mount a new rub rail over the old) just at the structural joint between the deck and the hull. I can tell you that the rub rail is made from white EPDM and paint does not stick well to EPDM. I'd bet you can scrape it off rather easily--you could also use a varnish remover to make it come off easier but be careful about this touching the hull. I think that before you try some Rube Goldberg fix like putting another rub rail over the outside, I would try very hard to clean the paint off. If the paint doesn't come off, I think I would try replacing the rub rail by removing the entire toe rail and all the screws. Then, try replace just a few feet at a time until you are all around the perimeter of the boat. There is probably enough flex in the outer part of the deck to do this. It would be a big job and it would be best done out of the water. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Replacing Rub Rail - Landfall 35
Anyone tried Magic Eraser? I used it to remove some really bad black marks in the cockpit made by a crew who wore swimming shoes. Worked like a charm _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John Irvin via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:00 PM To: Robert Boyer; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Replacing Rub Rail - Landfall 35 Vim or some cleaner with a bit of grit works on the rubrail and also on dirty fenders. _ From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: 2014-08-06 1:08 PM To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Replacing Rub Rail - Landfall 35 I have a Landfall 38 and I replaced a short section of my rub rail a long time ago--it rubbed up against a piling real seriously. It wasn't that big a problem but it was just a short length (maybe 3 feet long) and it was near the anchor well where I had good access to bolts. If you look closely at the underside of the hull-to-deck joint there are both thru bolts (the permanent fastening) and screws (probably temporary fastening during construction). This means you will have to completely remove the teak toe rail to get at the heads of the screws for their removal. (You would have to remove and reinstall the toe rail anyway.) Even though the part of the rub rail that sticks out beyond the hull is not structural or will not affect leak tight integrity, I think if you cut it off and put something else over it, it will look cheap. Also, I wouldn't want to add a bunch of screw holes into my hull (to mount a new rub rail over the old) just at the structural joint between the deck and the hull. I can tell you that the rub rail is made from white EPDM and paint does not stick well to EPDM. I'd bet you can scrape it off rather easily--you could also use a varnish remover to make it come off easier but be careful about this touching the hull. I think that before you try some Rube Goldberg fix like putting another rub rail over the outside, I would try very hard to clean the paint off. If the paint doesn't come off, I think I would try replacing the rub rail by removing the entire toe rail and all the screws. Then, try replace just a few feet at a time until you are all around the perimeter of the boat. There is probably enough flex in the outer part of the deck to do this. It would be a big job and it would be best done out of the water. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Replacing Rub Rail - Landfall 35 Now Landfall 38 rub rail
My LF38, hull #9, has NO rubrail at all, plastic or otherwise; just the teak toerail sitting on top of the hull/deck joint. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Aug 6, 2014, at 2:08 PM, PME via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi, I was a bit surprised to hear people discuss about a white rub rail on the Landfall 38. I assumed they were all teak as I have on my LF38. That is, I have an iconic LF teak toe rail which bolts through the deck along with a separate teak rub rail (~ 1-1/2 x 5/8 ) which is screwed onto the bottom outside of the toe rail. I have just looked online, and I now notice other LF38 with the white rub rails, but I don't see any with a teak rub rail. Does anyone know if the teak rub rail was a factory option or was it likely a previous owner upgrade? - Paul Eugenio 1981 CC Landfall 38 S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Read it and Weep
I hear ya Wal LOL. My boat was a pretty far cry from being neglected as well. The cabin's teak had just been re-oiled, Galley sink had a brand new shiny faucet, cushions had just been cleaned and in very good nick, sails appeared in decent shape etc, etc, etc. We all looked at the boat and all exclaimed OMG it's gorgeous.. I had it pre-purchase inspected and surveyed both.. My list is not near as long as yours although it's only over 12 months.. So far. But what I shared is actually a fraction of what I've spent on the boat in the past year. That was just a For Instance as a warning. Those boats are demanding mistresses my friends, demanding mistresses: Very pretty, ego stroking, entertaining, exciting, DEMANDING. Regards, -Francois 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Georgia. Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Read it and Weep
I just received a cash offer for my 39 TM. It was $ 300.00 less than I spent on her in just past 3 years. Oh my.. Jack Fitzgerald HONEY US12788 Savannah, GA USA On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I hear ya Wal LOL. My boat was a pretty far cry from being neglected as well. The cabin's teak had just been re-oiled, Galley sink had a brand new shiny faucet, cushions had just been cleaned and in very good nick, sails appeared in decent shape etc, etc, etc. We all looked at the boat and all exclaimed OMG it's gorgeous.. I had it pre-purchase inspected and surveyed both.. My list is not near as long as yours although it's only over 12 months.. So far. But what I shared is actually a fraction of what I've spent on the boat in the past year. That was just a For Instance as a warning. Those boats are demanding mistresses my friends, demanding mistresses: Very pretty, ego stroking, entertaining, exciting, DEMANDING. Regards, -Francois 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Georgia. Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Replacing Rub Rail - Landfall 35
Thanks for the comments Bob - you may be correct, a liberal application of elbow grease may be the best solution.___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Alternator or belt?
Remember not to tension the belt too tight as another lister mentioned. I believe the usual play is about a 0.5in deflection. Ron Wild Cheri CC 30 STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
Wally, What makes your haulouts cost thousands of dollars; one over 10k$? What's all happening during these hauls? Ron STL On Wed, 8/6/14, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 12:39 PM Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Read it and Weep
Don't do it! Keep the boat. I want to know I'm not the only one waiting for the market to come back. Too bad I'm not in the market to step up. Ron Wild Cheri CC 30 STL On Wed, 8/6/14, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Read it and Weep To: Jean-Francois J Rivard jfriv...@us.ibm.com, CCList cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 2:35 PM I just received a cash offer for my 39 TM. It was $ 300.00 less than I spent on her in just past 3 years. Oh my.. Jack FitzgeraldHONEY US12788Savannah, GA USA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
Well... http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/hauls/ Have fun. It's okay, but I still don't have a baby's arm holding an apple. It was a project boat, and if I didn't save her she'd be chopped up by now. Wal you wrote: Wally, What makes your haulouts cost thousands of dollars; one over 10k$? What's all happening during these hauls? Ron STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
Ha! I do keep that kind of accounting on all the money that I have and will be spending on our boat over the years. I can afford a new(er) boat. I’m just wondering why in the friggin’ hell I haven’t pulled the trigger on that option... Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If I kept that kind of accounting for my business I could probably afford a bigger boat :( -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:48 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC OMG... If i kept that that kind of accounting foe my boat I'd probably want to shoot myself!!! LOL There is LOTS of things I conveniently forget that I had to pay for!!! LOL Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:39:48 + Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
Dave, Care to share ? :) Paul. :) On Aug 6, 2014, at 7:35 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ha! I do keep that kind of accounting on all the money that I have and will be spending on our boat over the years. I can afford a new(er) boat. I'm just wondering why in the friggin' hell I haven't pulled the trigger on that option... Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin's Overdue Refithttp://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/ On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If I kept that kind of accounting for my business I could probably afford a bigger boat :( -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:48 PM To: w...@wbryant.commailto:w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC OMG... If i kept that that kind of accounting foe my boat I'd probably want to shoot myself!!! LOL There is LOTS of things I conveniently forget that I had to pay for!!! LOL Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:39:48 + Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I've had my 1981 Landfall 38 since 1997. I've put a lot of money into everything from an engine rebuild to all new running gear, a new propane stove, Espar heater, sails etc. batteries Etc. Meantime I've installed new electronics on many of the Beneteaus sold into Nova Scotia, worked on a whack of other boats of all types, makes, sizes and conditions, and have never felt that the money I spent on Indigo was going to a poor place or should be invested in a newer boat. I think the reason is that my 33 year old boat is every bit as seaworthy as any of the others I've been on, works and sails as well as any, satisfies my aesthetic needs and, perhaps most important from my point of view, has soul that most of the new boats don't have. Next boat will be a 25' wood power boat with a comfortable chair and a BBQ on the stern deck. Rich On Aug 6, 2014, at 20:35, Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ha! I do keep that kind of accounting on all the money that I have and will be spending on our boat over the years. I can afford a new(er) boat. I’m just wondering why in the friggin’ hell I haven’t pulled the trigger on that option... Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If I kept that kind of accounting for my business I could probably afford a bigger boat :( -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:48 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC OMG... If i kept that that kind of accounting foe my boat I'd probably want to shoot myself!!! LOL There is LOTS of things I conveniently forget that I had to pay for!!! LOL Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:39:48 + Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I quit tracking $$ when I went north of $20K. That was years ago. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ha! I do keep that kind of accounting on all the money that I have and will be spending on our boat over the years. I can afford a new(er) boat. I’m just wondering why in the friggin’ hell I haven’t pulled the trigger on that option... Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If I kept that kind of accounting for my business I could probably afford a bigger boat :( -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:48 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC OMG... If i kept that that kind of accounting foe my boat I'd probably want to shoot myself!!! LOL There is LOTS of things I conveniently forget that I had to pay for!!! LOL Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:39:48 + Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Ah, you read between the lines. Love my CC. My lovely wife does too! Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On Aug 6, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com wrote: I’m just wondering why in the friggin’ hell I haven’t pulled the trigger on that option... Dave, its because you have a great boat... Richard 1985 37 CB; Ohio River, mile 584 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Burt Stratton bstrat...@falconnect.com; cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wed, Aug 6, 2014 7:35 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Ha! I do keep that kind of accounting on all the money that I have and will be spending on our boat over the years. I can afford a new(er) boat. I’m just wondering why in the friggin’ hell I haven’t pulled the trigger on that option... Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If I kept that kind of accounting for my business I could probably afford a bigger boat :( -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:48 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC OMG... If i kept that that kind of accounting foe my boat I'd probably want to shoot myself!!! LOL There is LOTS of things I conveniently forget that I had to pay for!!! LOL Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:39:48 + Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Purchase price $2,500.00 Last offer $29,500 around $7,000 invested. I would never sale her now!!! I have fallen in love with her. take a look see. http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/p/photos-of-progress.html On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ah, you read between the lines. Love my CC. My lovely wife does too! Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin's Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/ On Aug 6, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com wrote: I'm just wondering why in the friggin' hell I haven't pulled the trigger on that option... *Dave, its because you have a great boat...* Richard 1985 37 CB; Ohio River, mile 584 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Burt Stratton bstrat...@falconnect.com; cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wed, Aug 6, 2014 7:35 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Ha! I do keep that kind of accounting on all the money that I have and will be spending on our boat over the years. I can afford a new(er) boat. I'm just wondering why in the friggin' hell I haven't pulled the trigger on that option... Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin's Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/ On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If I kept that kind of accounting for my business I could probably afford a bigger boat :( -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:48 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC OMG... If i kept that that kind of accounting foe my boat I'd probably want to shoot myself!!! LOL There is LOTS of things I conveniently forget that I had to pay for!!! LOL Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:39:48 + Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* *Port Royal,* *South Carolina* *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
I’m just wondering why in the friggin’ hell I haven’t pulled the trigger on that option... Dave, its because you have a great boat... Richard 1985 37 CB; Ohio River, mile 584 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Burt Stratton bstrat...@falconnect.com; cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wed, Aug 6, 2014 7:35 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Ha! I do keep that kind of accounting on all the money that I have and will be spending on our boat over the years. I can afford a new(er) boat. I’m just wondering why in the friggin’ hell I haven’t pulled the trigger on that option... Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If I kept that kind of accounting for my business I could probably afford a bigger boat :( -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:48 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC OMG... If i kept that that kind of accounting foe my boat I'd probably want to shoot myself!!! LOL There is LOTS of things I conveniently forget that I had to pay for!!! LOL Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:39:48 + Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Ok folks. I'm an accountant. Even by my standards you people are nuts John ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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If you own a boat, you're one of us... Rich Rich Knowles IFDS 2014 Worlds Support Chair On Aug 6, 2014, at 22:46, Ebay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ok folks. I'm an accountant. Even by my standards you people are nuts John ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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We are the CC's. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. 83 of 354 On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If you own a boat, you're one of us... Rich Rich Knowles IFDS 2014 Worlds Support Chair On Aug 6, 2014, at 22:46, Ebay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ok folks. I'm an accountant. Even by my standards you people are nuts John ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
It's the little things. If I kept track of every dollar I spent on hoses, hose clamps, wires, crimps, sealant, epoxy, sandpaper, brushes, paint, tape, tools, lube, books, manuals, fittings, etc etc etc .. well, I'de be busy doing data entry I guess. But I don't. I sort of keep my receipts around in case I get the urge to tally it up one day but the truth is, I'm afraid. Lets not even get started on time. Then there's the big ones, sails, engine work, electronics and upgrades ... boats are expensive. It doesn't make a lot of sense, our sailing season is 5 months long. Anyone want to buy a very well taken care of CC 32?!? I have a spare motor for chrissakes!!! Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: We are the CC's. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. 83 of 354 On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If you own a boat, you're one of us... Rich Rich Knowles IFDS 2014 Worlds Support Chair On Aug 6, 2014, at 22:46, Ebay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ok folks. I'm an accountant. Even by my standards you people are nuts John ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
Friend of mine is $80k and 8 years into an Ericsson 30 rebuild. He can't get an offer of $20k.My CC 26 cost me $24k 12 years ago. Since then it's retail has halved and I've probably got $20k into it in up grades.When I bought it, there was no thought of selling it and there still isn't. Good job, 'cause this thought line can drive you nuts.I'm going to either leave it to one of the grandkids (if I can get one interested in sailing), or sail west until we (boat and I) fall off the edge - this is plan B 'cause I'm a lake sailor! sam :-) From: Dennis C. via CnC-ListSent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 6:27 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: Dennis C.Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CCI quit tracking $$ when I went north of $20K. That was years ago.Dennis C.Touché 35-1 #83Mandeville, LASent from my iPhoneOn Aug 6, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:Ha! I do keep that kind of accounting on all the money that I have and will be spending on our boat over the years. I can afford a new(er) boat.I’m just wondering why in the friggin’ hell I haven’t pulled the trigger on that option...Cheers, Dave Godwin1982 CC 37 - RoninReedville - Chesapeake BayRonin’s Overdue Refit On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:If I kept that kind of accounting for my business I could probably afford abigger boat :(-Original Message-From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of DannyHaughey via CnC-ListSent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:48 PMTo: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CCOMG...If i kept that that kind of accounting foe my boat I'd probably want toshoot myself!!! LOLThere is LOTS of things I conveniently forget that I had to pay for!!! LOLDannyLolita1973 Viking 33Westport Point, MA-- Original Message --From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.comTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CCDate: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:39:48 +Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read itand laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it...The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little ofit was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally soundenough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive,but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat tobreak into, they'll probably choose somebody else.BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book.Walyou wrote:Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself .___This List is provided by the CC Photo AlbumEmail address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom ofpage at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___This List is provided by the CC Photo AlbumEmail address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom ofpage at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___This List is provided by the CC Photo AlbumEmail address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___This List is provided by the CC Photo AlbumEmail address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
Bought my 35 Mk I for 13 k 15 years ago. Compared to beach house rentals for one week/ year, I'm ahead of the game. It's not an investment, it's what you do with your disposable income. My family has not suffered. Chris Price 35 Mk I p. s. Sailing to Baltimore, getting-a slip and walking to the Ravens game tomorrow. Back to the club Friday for a Bridal shower for my daughter. Can't put a price on that. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Friend of mine is $80k and 8 years into an Ericsson 30 rebuild. He can't get an offer of $20k. My CC 26 cost me $24k 12 years ago. Since then it's retail has halved and I've probably got $20k into it in up grades. When I bought it, there was no thought of selling it and there still isn't. Good job, 'cause this thought line can drive you nuts. I'm going to either leave it to one of the grandkids (if I can get one interested in sailing), or sail west until we (boat and I) fall off the edge - this is plan B 'cause I'm a lake sailor! sam :-) From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 6:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC I quit tracking $$ when I went north of $20K. That was years ago. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ha! I do keep that kind of accounting on all the money that I have and will be spending on our boat over the years. I can afford a new(er) boat. I’m just wondering why in the friggin’ hell I haven’t pulled the trigger on that option... Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If I kept that kind of accounting for my business I could probably afford a bigger boat :( -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:48 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC OMG... If i kept that that kind of accounting foe my boat I'd probably want to shoot myself!!! LOL There is LOTS of things I conveniently forget that I had to pay for!!! LOL Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:39:48 + Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf or read it and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. Wal you wrote: Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and working on it yourself . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address:
