Re: Stus-List Racor filter 220

2014-08-10 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Thanks Josh,

I use 2 micron filter as well. And i know it is an overkill. But it doesn't 
hurt, so I didn't plan to replace it. But if I had to replace it anyway, then i 
would be looking for something more appropriate (cheaper).

Marek


Josh Muckley wrote:

The 220 is overkill (30gpm) but shouldn't cause problems.  I have an old
Racor 200FG that is smaller (15gpm) and is a cartrige (I like...cheaper).
The 200FG is no longer made but the cartridges are readily available ~$10.
I keep my eyes open on ebay and find the filters from time to time in
varying conditions and prices.  $30-70 seems about average.  The elements
are available in 2, 10, and 30 micron.  I run a 2 micron on my 35hp with no
troubles.

As an alternative if you are looking to replace yours now with something
new you could try the 110A.  It is a 15gpm and cartridge style.  Only thing
to consider is that the cartridge is only available in 10 micron which
should be fine since most of us are only using these as a pre-filters.  The
engine has a primary filter that is 2 microns.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Aug 10, 2014 10:15 PM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi, I have a question regarding a Racor filter 220 series. For the last 2
> years I am fighting diesel leaks from the filter. Last year I found that
> the transparent bowl at the bottom had a crack and some fuel was leaking.
> Nothing serious, but enough to create the smell in the cabin. Of course, i
> replaced the bowl. Now i found that there is small leak at the plunger.
> Again, not much, it is just sweating. But the smell returned.
>
> Now to the question. Is there a way to service the filter (actually, the
> top of the housing)? Is there a way to replace the seal on the plunger and
> if yes what would be the source for the parts?
>
> I am hesitating, because the 220 series is quite expensive. The filter
> elements are almost double compared to other similar filters.
>
> I am thinking that if i have to replace the housing, possibly a better way
> would be to replace the filter with another model.
>
> If I have to replace, what would be the recommendation? I have Perkins M20
> (2 cylinder, 18 HP). I think that 220 series is a bit too big for what i
> need, but it does not hurt to have too much capacity there.
>
> Thanks
>
> Marek in Ottawa
>
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Re: Stus-List Racor filter 220

2014-08-10 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The 220 is overkill (30gpm) but shouldn't cause problems.  I have an old
Racor 200FG that is smaller (15gpm) and is a cartrige (I like...cheaper).
The 200FG is no longer made but the cartridges are readily available ~$10.
I keep my eyes open on ebay and find the filters from time to time in
varying conditions and prices.  $30-70 seems about average.  The elements
are available in 2, 10, and 30 micron.  I run a 2 micron on my 35hp with no
troubles.

As an alternative if you are looking to replace yours now with something
new you could try the 110A.  It is a 15gpm and cartridge style.  Only thing
to consider is that the cartridge is only available in 10 micron which
should be fine since most of us are only using these as a pre-filters.  The
engine has a primary filter that is 2 microns.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Aug 10, 2014 10:15 PM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi, I have a question regarding a Racor filter 220 series. For the last 2
> years I am fighting diesel leaks from the filter. Last year I found that
> the transparent bowl at the bottom had a crack and some fuel was leaking.
> Nothing serious, but enough to create the smell in the cabin. Of course, i
> replaced the bowl. Now i found that there is small leak at the plunger.
> Again, not much, it is just sweating. But the smell returned.
>
> Now to the question. Is there a way to service the filter (actually, the
> top of the housing)? Is there a way to replace the seal on the plunger and
> if yes what would be the source for the parts?
>
> I am hesitating, because the 220 series is quite expensive. The filter
> elements are almost double compared to other similar filters.
>
> I am thinking that if i have to replace the housing, possibly a better way
> would be to replace the filter with another model.
>
> If I have to replace, what would be the recommendation? I have Perkins M20
> (2 cylinder, 18 HP). I think that 220 series is a bit too big for what i
> need, but it does not hurt to have too much capacity there.
>
> Thanks
>
> Marek in Ottawa
>
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Stus-List Racor filter 220

2014-08-10 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Hi, I have a question regarding a Racor filter 220 series. For the last 2 years I am fighting diesel leaks from the filter. Last year I found that the transparent bowl at the bottom had a crack and some fuel was leaking. Nothing serious, but enough to create the smell in the cabin. Of course, i replaced the bowl. Now i found that there is small leak at the plunger. Again, not much, it is just sweating. But the smell returned.

Now to the question. Is there a way to service the filter (actually, the top of the housing)? Is there a way to replace the seal on the plunger and if yes what would be the source for the parts?

I am hesitating, because the 220 series is quite expensive. The filter elements are almost double compared to other similar filters. 

I am thinking that if i have to replace the housing, possibly a better way would be to replace the filter with another model.

If I have to replace, what would be the recommendation? I have Perkins M20 (2 cylinder, 18 HP). I think that 220 series is a bit too big for what i need, but it does not hurt to have too much capacity there.

Thanks

Marek in Ottawa
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Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!

2014-08-10 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
I did indeed.  I got it sorted!  I think the fuel blocking the vent hose 
created an air leak on a not to tight house clamp at the carb.  We just ran her 
3 hours out to cuttyhunk!

Andy...let's have a chat if your still about.  We're here until Tuesday!

Danny


From my Android phone

 Original message 
From: Martin DeYoung  
Date: 08/10/2014  7:12 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Danny Haughey ,cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: RE: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! 
 
Danny,
 
Did you read Russ' post to a different topic:
 
Hi Gang,

I will share a fuel related A4 problem and the satisfactory resolution.

I had a condition where the A4 would quit, most often after slowing down from a 
run of hours. Very annoying when it happens while entering a marina or crowded 
harbour (i.e.: Prideaux Haven, Desolation Sound). No starting until cools a 
bit. I went through the coil troubleshooting, no luck.

It turned out to be my BLACK fuel filter housing installed opposite the carb, 
but more importantly the exhaust manifold. It seems the radiant heat from the 
exhaust manifold was hot enough to vapour-lock the fuel supply when I slowed 
down. I made up an aluminum foil shield (in the anchorage at Prideaux Haven) 
and it fixed the fault.

After the cruising season I did a circulating acid clean but still kept the 
heat shield in place.

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35-1 
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Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 2:37 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!




 Original message 
From: Danny Haughey  
Date: 08/09/2014 5:32 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: derlic...@gmail.com,mda...@darkstar.ca 
Subject: Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! 


Okay so no wind today...

I pulled up to the gas dock, topped off water and fuel, loaded up and away we 
went.  Motor was running great!  Fired up left dock, motored away.  After about 
an hour she seemed to be running out of gas.  Stutter ed and stalled.  Five 
minutes later, after seeing sail, she started right back up.  We sail back to 
our home mooring.  I pull the filter on the sepertator, looked clean as the day 
I put it in.  Then I thought, maybe the vent is plugged...  well, it wasn't 
plugged but it is routed with a trap and that trap was filled with fuel.  Would 
this have been enough to starve the engine?

Danny


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Re: Stus-List Viking 33

2014-08-10 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
OMG!

Where are you now?


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From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
Date: 08/10/2014  5:43 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Viking 33 
 
Sitting in Cuttyhunk and saw the most beautiful Viking 33--called Lolita--come 
in next to me, but couldn't remember your name in time to call over, Danny. 
She's Looking good!

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA    02840

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Re: Stus-List 1988 or 1989 C&C 37+/40 with atypical Ports, what gives?

2014-08-10 Thread Ebay via CnC-List
Now I'm really betting on VZ work (which could be a good thing)

John


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> On Aug 10, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> That would be the C&C 37+ named "Gitzi", a 1989 model with a wing keel.  If 
> you look carefully you will notice lots of small changes (like hatches where 
> winches usually are located) have been made to this boat by this owner.
> 
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1989/C%26C-37-2600937/St-Petersburg/FL/United-States#.U-f5uONdXvg
> 
> 
>> On 10 August 2014 17:45, Julie McGillivray via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> We’re in the market for a new boat, and came upon a 37+  with opening ports, 
>> rather than the slender racked ports. I’ve never seen one like this in any 
>> brochures or pics. Do you think this was a prototype or just a custom job by 
>> the prior owner?
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!

2014-08-10 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
Danny,



Did you read Russ' post to a different topic:



Hi Gang,

I will share a fuel related A4 problem and the satisfactory resolution.

I had a condition where the A4 would quit, most often after slowing down from a 
run of hours. Very annoying when it happens while entering a marina or crowded 
harbour (i.e.: Prideaux Haven, Desolation Sound). No starting until cools a 
bit. I went through the coil troubleshooting, no luck.

It turned out to be my BLACK fuel filter housing installed opposite the carb, 
but more importantly the exhaust manifold. It seems the radiant heat from the 
exhaust manifold was hot enough to vapour-lock the fuel supply when I slowed 
down. I made up an aluminum foil shield (in the anchorage at Prideaux Haven) 
and it fixed the fault.

After the cruising season I did a circulating acid clean but still kept the 
heat shield in place.

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35-1


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Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 2:37 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!




 Original message 
From: Danny Haughey 
Date: 08/09/2014 5:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: derlic...@gmail.com,mda...@darkstar.ca
Subject: Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!


Okay so no wind today...

I pulled up to the gas dock, topped off water and fuel, loaded up and away we 
went.  Motor was running great!  Fired up left dock, motored away.  After about 
an hour she seemed to be running out of gas.  Stutter ed and stalled.  Five 
minutes later, after seeing sail, she started right back up.  We sail back to 
our home mooring.  I pull the filter on the sepertator, looked clean as the day 
I put it in.  Then I thought, maybe the vent is plugged...  well, it wasn't 
plugged but it is routed with a trap and that trap was filled with fuel.  Would 
this have been enough to starve the engine?

Danny


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Re: Stus-List 1988 or 1989 C&C 37+/40 with atypical Ports, what gives?

2014-08-10 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
That would be the C&C 37+ named "Gitzi", a 1989 model with a wing keel.  If
you look carefully you will notice lots of small changes (like hatches
where winches usually are located) have been made to this boat by this
owner.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1989/C%26C-37-2600937/St-Petersburg/FL/United-States#.U-f5uONdXvg


On 10 August 2014 17:45, Julie McGillivray via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We’re in the market for a new boat, and came upon a 37+  with opening
> ports, rather than the slender racked ports. I’ve never seen one like this
> in any brochures or pics. Do you think this was a prototype or just a
> custom job by the prior owner?
>
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Stus-List C&C visitor to Southport CT

2014-08-10 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
Just wondered if the owner of a dark hulled C&C that came into Southport Harbor 
today and picked up a mooring at Pequot Yacht Club is on this email list. 

If you are, welcome to my Club

Jonathan Thomson
Commodore - PYC

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT


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Re: Stus-List Read it and Weep

2014-08-10 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
Holy crap Wal, it cost $20,000 +- to re power your boat? Wow!
That's a more than a few boat units!!

Brent D
C&C 27-5
Lake Winnipeg. 


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> On Aug 6, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I hear ya Wal  LOL. 
> 
> My boat was a pretty far cry from being neglected as well.  
> 
> The cabin's teak had just been re-oiled, Galley sink had a brand new shiny 
> faucet, cushions had just been cleaned and in very good nick, sails appeared 
> in decent shape etc, etc, etc. 
> 
> We all looked at the boat and all exclaimed OMG it's gorgeous.. I had it 
> pre-purchase inspected and surveyed both..
> 
> My list is not near as long as yours although it's only over 12 months.. So 
> far.   But what I shared is actually a fraction of what I've spent on the 
> boat in the past year.  That was just a "For Instance" as a warning.  
> 
> Those boats are demanding mistresses my friends, demanding mistresses: Very 
> pretty, ego stroking, entertaining, exciting, DEMANDING.  
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> -Francois
> 1990 34+  "Take Five"
> Lake Lanier, Georgia. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Read it and weep:   or read it
> and laugh.  Or laugh and weep.  Or drink tequila and don't worry about it...
> 
> The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of
> it was cosmetic.  That was intentional.  The boat is structurally sound
> enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive,
> but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to
> break into, they'll probably choose somebody else.
> 
> BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book.
> 
> Wal
> 
> you wrote:
> > Fair warning:  You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a 
> > neglected boat, even buying used stuff,  being creative with eBay, and 
> > working on it yourself .
> 
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Re: Stus-List Read it and Weep

2014-08-10 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
No Jack, Counter with something higher than you'll settle for. He may come back 
with a better offer. He likes your boat. 

Chuck 


- Original Message -

From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
To: "Jean-Francois J Rivard" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
 
Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 3:35:58 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Read it and Weep 

I just received a cash offer for my 39 TM. It was $ 300.00 less than I spent on 
her in just past 3 years. Oh my.. 

Jack Fitzgerald 
HONEY 
US12788 
Savannah, GA USA 




On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 





I hear ya Wal LOL. 

My boat was a pretty far cry from being neglected as well. 

The cabin's teak had just been re-oiled, Galley sink had a brand new shiny 
faucet, cushions had just been cleaned and in very good nick, sails appeared in 
decent shape etc, etc, etc. 

We all looked at the boat and all exclaimed OMG it's gorgeous.. I had it 
pre-purchase inspected and surveyed both.. 

My list is not near as long as yours although it's only over 12 months.. So 
far. But what I shared is actually a fraction of what I've spent on the boat in 
the past year. That was just a "For Instance" as a warning. 

Those boats are demanding mistresses my friends, demanding mistresses: Very 
pretty, ego stroking, entertaining, exciting, DEMANDING. 

Regards, 

-Francois 
1990 34+ "Take Five" 
Lake Lanier, Georgia. 




Read it and weep: < http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf > or read it 
and laugh. Or laugh and weep. Or drink tequila and don't worry about it... 

The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of 
it was cosmetic. That was intentional. The boat is structurally sound 
enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive, 
but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to 
break into, they'll probably choose somebody else. 

BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book. 

Wal 

you wrote: 
> Fair warning: You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a 
> neglected boat, even buying used stuff, being creative with eBay, and 
> working on it yourself . 


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Stus-List Viking 33

2014-08-10 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Sitting in Cuttyhunk and saw the most beautiful Viking 33--called Lolita--come 
in next to me, but couldn't remember your name in time to call over, Danny. 
She's Looking good!

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

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Re: Stus-List 1988 or 1989 C&C 37+/40 with atypical Ports, what gives?

2014-08-10 Thread Ebay via CnC-List
A link to pictures would help.  Most likely something a prior owner did but... 
C&C did a lot of custom work In the later years.

John


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> We’re in the market for a new boat, and came upon a 37+  with opening ports, 
> rather than the slender racked ports. I’ve never seen one like this in any 
> brochures or pics. Do you think this was a prototype or just a custom job by 
> the prior owner?
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Stus-List 1988 or 1989 C&C 37+/40 with atypical Ports, what gives?

2014-08-10 Thread Julie McGillivray via CnC-List
We're in the market for a new boat, and came upon a 37+  with opening ports,
rather than the slender racked ports. I've never seen one like this in any
brochures or pics. Do you think this was a prototype or just a custom job by
the prior owner?

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Re: Stus-List Battery charger on 24

2014-08-10 Thread Patrick H. Wesley via CnC-List
Thanks to everyone who responded with comments and advice re my battery
charger questions. Replies were very useful and I even understood most of
them! I now have a Plan. Patrick Wesley, The Boat C & C 24


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Patrick H. Wesley 
wrote:

>
> Investigating availability of "smart" or three step charger to install in
> locker next to batteries, obviously concern is size for this type of
> boat, or portable one. Must have auto shut-off. Any ideas? Battery guy says
> most car type chargers only measure volts and shut off when reach the limit
> but you then need to put it on manual and charge another four hours, which
> isn't practical given distance house/boat. Also that real importance is
> amps and only way to measure that is using a battery acid hygrometer.
>>
>>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Patrick Wesley, Sidney BC
>
>
> --
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Stus-List Marine ssb installation

2014-08-10 Thread Ebay via CnC-List
Does anyone have experience with the "rope antenna".  It certainly appears to 
be an alternative to using the backstay and does provide options for placement. 
 Is there any reason to not simply wire tie it to the backstay?  As it is 
insulated I don't see an issue from the radio side.  Perhaps potential for 
interference from the backstay itself which in this case remains a part of the 
boat's electrical grounding system?

On a different note -   we have always had to place the antenna tuner very near 
the backstay and by default the autopilot.  With this antenna that placement 
could move to be just forward of the mast, just inboard and aft of the shrouds, 
etc.  Any thoughts on ideal placement?  I will be using the KISS counterpoise.  

Please keep in mind all of this is for a hobby installation that I would like 
to be fairly permanent.  No grand cruising plans in the foreseeable future.  
Mast is carbon (C&C 121).

John



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Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!

2014-08-10 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
 swapping the plugs.   they were all black and sooty

I also noticed that the clamp,  around the hose on the in side of the filter 
was loose and the filter spun freely.   the clamp at the inlet of the carb also 
looked lose as it was seeping slightly.

I changed the plugs, I have now changed both filters and tightened the hell out 
of the house clamps.   these were the clamp s  on there from Moyer.

the filter doeses seem to have some restriction but,  nothing major.  I put the 
new one on before I blew through it..

The carb is a fresh rebuild as of a few weeks ago...

I think it may have been a combination of the restricted vent along with the 
loose hose connections.  

Off for a sea trial...fingers crossed


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 Original message 
From: Brian Morrison  
Date: 08/10/2014  11:51 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Burt Stratton ,cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Danny Haughey  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! 
 
Could be the carburetor. I've had this issue too many times. I chose to take 
off the carb, break it down completely and clean it out. Moyer Marine's A4 
guide is very useful. 

Brian
s/v Rekofa The Blue Whale
1979 C&C 34
Baltimore, MD

Dr. Brian C. Morrison

On Aug 10, 2014, at 9:48 AM, "Burt Stratton via CnC-List" 
 wrote:

Good question. I suppose it is possible but seems unlikely. The fuel pump ought 
to be able to overcome that. Can you drain the trap? I would drain or remove 
the trap and try it.  Try a new P-trap designed for the purpose. Might want to 
check the operation of your fuel pump.
 
I just put my boat in the water for the first time and had a similar issue. 5 
minutes and then stall. Starts back up after a short wait but won’t run for 
longer than about five minutes. Sort of ran if fully choked. Turned out to be a 
broken electrical feed to my electric fuel pump. Hard to believe how long it 
ran without a fuel pump! I guess gravity and vacuum will do part of the job, 
even through two filters.
 
Skip
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny 
Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 5:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!
 



 Original message 
From: Danny Haughey  
Date: 08/09/2014 5:32 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: derlic...@gmail.com,mda...@darkstar.ca 
Subject: Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! 


Okay so no wind today...
 
I pulled up to the gas dock, topped off water and fuel, loaded up and away we 
went.  Motor was running great!  Fired up left dock, motored away.  After about 
an hour she seemed to be running out of gas.  Stutter ed and stalled.  Five 
minutes later, after seeing sail, she started right back up.  We sail back to 
our home mooring.  I pull the filter on the sepertator, looked clean as the day 
I put it in.  Then I thought, maybe the vent is plugged...  well, it wasn't 
plugged but it is routed with a trap and that trap was filled with fuel.  Would 
this have been enough to starve the engine?
 
Danny
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!

2014-08-10 Thread Brian Morrison via CnC-List
Could be the carburetor. I've had this issue too many times. I chose to take 
off the carb, break it down completely and clean it out. Moyer Marine's A4 
guide is very useful. 

Brian
s/v Rekofa The Blue Whale
1979 C&C 34
Baltimore, MD

Dr. Brian C. Morrison

> On Aug 10, 2014, at 9:48 AM, "Burt Stratton via CnC-List" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good question. I suppose it is possible but seems unlikely. The fuel pump 
> ought to be able to overcome that. Can you drain the trap? I would drain or 
> remove the trap and try it.  Try a new P-trap designed for the purpose. Might 
> want to check the operation of your fuel pump.
>  
> I just put my boat in the water for the first time and had a similar issue. 5 
> minutes and then stall. Starts back up after a short wait but won’t run for 
> longer than about five minutes. Sort of ran if fully choked. Turned out to be 
> a broken electrical feed to my electric fuel pump. Hard to believe how long 
> it ran without a fuel pump! I guess gravity and vacuum will do part of the 
> job, even through two filters.
>  
> Skip
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny 
> Haughey via CnC-List
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 5:38 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Danny Haughey  
> Date: 08/09/2014 5:32 PM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: derlic...@gmail.com,mda...@darkstar.ca 
> Subject: Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! 
> 
> 
> Okay so no wind today...
>  
> I pulled up to the gas dock, topped off water and fuel, loaded up and away we 
> went.  Motor was running great!  Fired up left dock, motored away.  After 
> about an hour she seemed to be running out of gas.  Stutter ed and stalled.  
> Five minutes later, after seeing sail, she started right back up.  We sail 
> back to our home mooring.  I pull the filter on the sepertator, looked clean 
> as the day I put it in.  Then I thought, maybe the vent is plugged...  well, 
> it wasn't plugged but it is routed with a trap and that trap was filled with 
> fuel.  Would this have been enough to starve the engine?
>  
> Danny
>  
>  
> From my Android phone
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Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!

2014-08-10 Thread Paul Fountain via CnC-List
Check your fuel lines ... The inner part may be collapsing ... Had this on a 
friends boat. Would run for a while, shut down .. After a while run again ... 
Tough to diagnose ... New lines fixed it

Paul. :)


On Aug 10, 2014, at 9:48 AM, "Burt Stratton via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Good question. I suppose it is possible but seems unlikely. The fuel pump ought 
to be able to overcome that. Can you drain the trap? I would drain or remove 
the trap and try it.  Try a new P-trap designed for the purpose. Might want to 
check the operation of your fuel pump.

I just put my boat in the water for the first time and had a similar issue. 5 
minutes and then stall. Starts back up after a short wait but won't run for 
longer than about five minutes. Sort of ran if fully choked. Turned out to be a 
broken electrical feed to my electric fuel pump. Hard to believe how long it 
ran without a fuel pump! I guess gravity and vacuum will do part of the job, 
even through two filters.

Skip

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny 
Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 5:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!




 Original message 
From: Danny Haughey mailto:djhaug...@juno.com>>
Date: 08/09/2014 5:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: 
derlic...@gmail.com,mda...@darkstar.ca
Subject: Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!

Okay so no wind today...

I pulled up to the gas dock, topped off water and fuel, loaded up and away we 
went.  Motor was running great!  Fired up left dock, motored away.  After about 
an hour she seemed to be running out of gas.  Stutter ed and stalled.  Five 
minutes later, after seeing sail, she started right back up.  We sail back to 
our home mooring.  I pull the filter on the sepertator, looked clean as the day 
I put it in.  Then I thought, maybe the vent is plugged...  well, it wasn't 
plugged but it is routed with a trap and that trap was filled with fuel.  Would 
this have been enough to starve the engine?

Danny


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Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!

2014-08-10 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
Good question. I suppose it is possible but seems unlikely. The fuel pump ought 
to be able to overcome that. Can you drain the trap? I would drain or remove 
the trap and try it.  Try a new P-trap designed for the purpose. Might want to 
check the operation of your fuel pump.

 

I just put my boat in the water for the first time and had a similar issue. 5 
minutes and then stall. Starts back up after a short wait but won’t run for 
longer than about five minutes. Sort of ran if fully choked. Turned out to be a 
broken electrical feed to my electric fuel pump. Hard to believe how long it 
ran without a fuel pump! I guess gravity and vacuum will do part of the job, 
even through two filters.

 

Skip

 

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Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 5:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!

 




 Original message 
From: Danny Haughey  
Date: 08/09/2014 5:32 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: derlic...@gmail.com,mda...@darkstar.ca 
Subject: Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! 



Okay so no wind today...

 

I pulled up to the gas dock, topped off water and fuel, loaded up and away we 
went.  Motor was running great!  Fired up left dock, motored away.  After about 
an hour she seemed to be running out of gas.  Stutter ed and stalled.  Five 
minutes later, after seeing sail, she started right back up.  We sail back to 
our home mooring.  I pull the filter on the sepertator, looked clean as the day 
I put it in.  Then I thought, maybe the vent is plugged...  well, it wasn't 
plugged but it is routed with a trap and that trap was filled with fuel.  Would 
this have been enough to starve the engine?

 

Danny

 

 

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