Re: Stus-List CNG for stove

2014-09-12 Thread bobmor99 . via CnC-List 
FWIW, Jacksonville, FL looks to be getting into consumer CNG availability.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2014-07-30/story/jacksonville-cng-station-entire-public-its-way-prompting-forecasts

Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>  I have cng. Safer but harder to source.  also less heat
>
> Mike
> Persistence
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> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List on behalf of Gary Nylander via CnC-List
> Sent: Fri 12/09/2014 4:56 PM
> To: Rick Brass; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG for stove
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> There are some boat yards which trade tanks, you give the old, they give
> the new - for a fee. Ours does just that.
>
> Gary
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Rick Brass via CnC-List
>   To: Richard N. Bush ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>   Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:02 AM
>   Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG for stove
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>   Converting your stove from CNG to propane is simply a matter of changing
> the orfices in the burners. My new Frigidaire gas stove (in the home)
> actually came with a set of each. The CNG jets were factory installed and
> the LPG  in a package attached to the installation instructions. The
> delivery people installed the LPG jets when they installed the stove. Talk
> to an appliance vendor.
>
>
>   I don't think I've ever heard of a CNG stove in an RV, so the lack of
> information is not surprising.
>
>
>   Your tank and regulator should have manufacturer labels on them. See if
> the manufacturer can identify the local installer for you.
>
>
>   The CNG system is another matter. CNG is methane gas and lighter than
> air so no need for a vented locker, sensors, etc. The tank is at much
> higher pressures in order to store a useful amount of gas (systems on
> forklift trucks can be up to 3000 psi) and you still store a lot less fuel
> than in a similar size LPG tank. There is probably an expensive two stage
> regulator to bring the gas pressure down to 2-3psi. And it is hard to find
> anyone to fill your tank. You might ask your municipal gas company or the
> local bus company if they can either fill the tank or identify someone who
> can.
>
>
>   The benefits to CNG are that it is safer than LPG, it burns hotter so
> cooks faster, and it is ridiculously inexpensive (which is why most new
> buses run on it).
>
>
>   Rick Brass
>
>   Sent from my iPad
>
>   On Sep 11, 2014, at 15:59, "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone on the list use CNG for their stove?  If so, could you
> tell me about how it works, suppliers, and pitfalls? My boat came with a
> CNG stove and full tank of CNG; the system seems to be in good condition,
> but I'm too intimidated by it to try it before having someone check it
> out;  but there is no one in our area, (meaning RV dealers) who has any
> knowledge of how it works or useful information; I have looked into
> converting the stove to propane, which means purchasing a new stove and
> full propane system, $$$; many thanks for any info or help;
>
> Richard
> 1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584
>
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
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Re: Stus-List CNG for stove

2014-09-12 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
I have cng. Safer but harder to source.  also less heat

Mike
Persistence




-Original Message-
From: CnC-List on behalf of Gary Nylander via CnC-List
Sent: Fri 12/09/2014 4:56 PM
To: Rick Brass; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG for stove
 
There are some boat yards which trade tanks, you give the old, they give the 
new - for a fee. Ours does just that.

Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
  To: Richard N. Bush ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:02 AM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG for stove


  Converting your stove from CNG to propane is simply a matter of changing the 
orfices in the burners. My new Frigidaire gas stove (in the home) actually came 
with a set of each. The CNG jets were factory installed and the LPG  in a 
package attached to the installation instructions. The delivery people 
installed the LPG jets when they installed the stove. Talk to an appliance 
vendor.


  I don't think I've ever heard of a CNG stove in an RV, so the lack of 
information is not surprising.


  Your tank and regulator should have manufacturer labels on them. See if the 
manufacturer can identify the local installer for you.


  The CNG system is another matter. CNG is methane gas and lighter than air so 
no need for a vented locker, sensors, etc. The tank is at much higher pressures 
in order to store a useful amount of gas (systems on forklift trucks can be up 
to 3000 psi) and you still store a lot less fuel than in a similar size LPG 
tank. There is probably an expensive two stage regulator to bring the gas 
pressure down to 2-3psi. And it is hard to find anyone to fill your tank. You 
might ask your municipal gas company or the local bus company if they can 
either fill the tank or identify someone who can.


  The benefits to CNG are that it is safer than LPG, it burns hotter so cooks 
faster, and it is ridiculously inexpensive (which is why most new buses run on 
it).


  Rick Brass

  Sent from my iPad

  On Sep 11, 2014, at 15:59, "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" 
 wrote:


Does anyone on the list use CNG for their stove?  If so, could you tell me 
about how it works, suppliers, and pitfalls? My boat came with a CNG stove and 
full tank of CNG; the system seems to be in good condition, but I'm too 
intimidated by it to try it before having someone check it out;  but there is 
no one in our area, (meaning RV dealers) who has any knowledge of how it works 
or useful information; I have looked into converting the stove to propane, 
which means purchasing a new stove and full propane system, $$$; many thanks 
for any info or help;  

Richard
1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584


Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255


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Re: Stus-List CNG for stove

2014-09-12 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
There are some boat yards which trade tanks, you give the old, they give the 
new - for a fee. Ours does just that.

Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
  To: Richard N. Bush ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:02 AM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG for stove


  Converting your stove from CNG to propane is simply a matter of changing the 
orfices in the burners. My new Frigidaire gas stove (in the home) actually came 
with a set of each. The CNG jets were factory installed and the LPG  in a 
package attached to the installation instructions. The delivery people 
installed the LPG jets when they installed the stove. Talk to an appliance 
vendor.


  I don't think I've ever heard of a CNG stove in an RV, so the lack of 
information is not surprising.


  Your tank and regulator should have manufacturer labels on them. See if the 
manufacturer can identify the local installer for you.


  The CNG system is another matter. CNG is methane gas and lighter than air so 
no need for a vented locker, sensors, etc. The tank is at much higher pressures 
in order to store a useful amount of gas (systems on forklift trucks can be up 
to 3000 psi) and you still store a lot less fuel than in a similar size LPG 
tank. There is probably an expensive two stage regulator to bring the gas 
pressure down to 2-3psi. And it is hard to find anyone to fill your tank. You 
might ask your municipal gas company or the local bus company if they can 
either fill the tank or identify someone who can.


  The benefits to CNG are that it is safer than LPG, it burns hotter so cooks 
faster, and it is ridiculously inexpensive (which is why most new buses run on 
it).


  Rick Brass

  Sent from my iPad

  On Sep 11, 2014, at 15:59, "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" 
 wrote:


Does anyone on the list use CNG for their stove?  If so, could you tell me 
about how it works, suppliers, and pitfalls? My boat came with a CNG stove and 
full tank of CNG; the system seems to be in good condition, but I'm too 
intimidated by it to try it before having someone check it out;  but there is 
no one in our area, (meaning RV dealers) who has any knowledge of how it works 
or useful information; I have looked into converting the stove to propane, 
which means purchasing a new stove and full propane system, $$$; many thanks 
for any info or help;  

Richard
1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584


Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255


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Stus-List rechrome

2014-09-12 Thread Jimmy Kelly via CnC-List 
had my 4 ..custom 923 lewmars & 4 barients rechromed worked well..had
custom auto shop do work.
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Re: Stus-List gel coat colour

2014-09-12 Thread PME via CnC-List 
Hi,


The gelcoat on my old 1979 29-1 was an identical match to oyster white gelcoat 
I purchased at Jamestown Distributors.  I mixed MEKP with the gelcoat in small 
batches using a 10ml and a 1ml syringe(i.e. 10 ml of gelcoat to 0.1 ml of 
MEKP).   This oyster white color is the same as the Awlgrip oyster white so you 
may be able to find an Awlgrip color card locally to check the match.

( FIB-5702 ) GELCOAT OYSTER WHITE AIR DRY


http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=1522&familyName=Colored+Air+Dry+Gelcoats



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Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL




On Sep 12, 2014, at 12:00 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:

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> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:40:13 -0700
> From: Bev Parslow 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Stus-List gel coat colour
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> The head is now smelling great so thanks for the suggestions. Just draining 
> and cleaning out the fuel tank as we had filter problems. Now gel coat. It is 
> a 1984 29. I tried white to off white gel coat, and then off white to white 
> but it is not working well. I know it is really hard but should I be using 
> other colours in the mix? Will the new gel coat go lighter or darker with 
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2014-09-12 Thread Bob via CnC-List 
We are purchasing a good sized motorboat and considering selling our beloved
C&C.  We bought a cottage on Cayuga Lake a year ago and discovered the
"dockable" water depth would not comfortably support the 6.5 foot draft.
Leading us to decide how to cure the conflicting interests of my age and
infirmities, the allure of the cottage and the choice of three boats to use.


 

So my expert friends, tell me what the market is.

1982 C&C37

The good parts of it-

Repowered with a great Beta (Kubota) 25 two winters ago.  Dutch Creek in
Branford CT did the $26K installation.  Probably 150 hours

New UK mainsail with the slider system for the mast.  Unused still in the
wrapper.  Cost around $4800 this spring

New marine head in the last year.

The bad parts of it-

Needs a paint job.

Bimini and dodger are pretty marginal.

No exciting electronics

Everything else is pretty normal for the age. I suspect the market improves
early spring so we can easily wait.

Thanks

Bob

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Stus-List C&C 30-II Framed Poster

2014-09-12 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List 
If anyone in Victoria is interested, I noticed a large framed colour 
promotional poster of the C&C 30 Mk II in the downtown Salvation Army today. 
Not sure what they are asking for it but I doubt it is much.

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C&C 27 MkIII

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