Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video (now Lake Wabamun sailing)
Marek I dont know him personally, and he has that boat on his own mooring about mid-lake and is not affiliated with either yacht club. I was parked next to him last year at crane out. If I see him this year I will definitely say hi for you. We crane out on the 11th of October. David Donnelly C&C 26 Mistress Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On September 20, 2014 8:32:23 PM Marek Dziedzic wrote: David, I bet you sail with (or at least know) Gary (Meriachee) Hamilton, who sails a Catalina 270 on the same lake. Say hi to him from me. Marek (in Ottawa) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Donnelly via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:46 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video Mistress is now on Lake Wabamun which is about an hour drive west of Edmonton. We are really happy with the boat so far. David Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On September 20, 2014 7:23:27 PM Brent Driedger wrote: > Thanks David. Where is Mistress now? > > Brent > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:07 PM, David Donnelly via CnC-List > wrote: > > > > Nice video Brent. Your crew looks effcient. > > > > Mistress has few 2nd and 3rd in the flying sails at Gimli in her past. > Not racing anymore. > > > > Say high to Dale for me. > > > > David Donnelly > > C&C 26 Mistress > > > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > > > >> On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List > wrote: > >> > >> Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is > >> still > in the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our > last race of the season. > >> This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics > year. Our goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet > of 7 boats. Back to flying sails next year! > >> https://vimeo.com/106679764 > >> > >> Brent Driedger > >> C&C 27 MkV > >> s/v Wild Rover > >> Lake Winnipeg > >> ___ > >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > >> > >> Email address: > >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go > >> bottom of > page at: > >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > > > Email address: > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go > > bottom of > page at: > > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video
Great video, Brent. We shot something similar on the Enterprise during some night racing. Here's the link: http://youtu.be/2I69h6fwL1E Just saw several listers at the C&C Rendezvous in Newport. Great bunch of people. So happy we were able to spend some time with them, even though we came by car. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B C&C 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 5 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize > On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List > wrote: > > Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is still in > the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our last race > of the season. > This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics year. Our > goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet of 7 boats. Back > to flying sails next year! > https://vimeo.com/106679764 > > Brent Driedger > C&C 27 MkV > s/v Wild Rover > Lake Winnipeg > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video
I'll forward the message to Dale. He's been tearing ass in the Sonar class and doing very well. I think they won the Mb keelboat championships again this year on Lake of the Woods racing against two Antrim 27s, J80 and the T10 just to name a few. Cheers Brent s/v Wild Rover Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2014, at 8:45 PM, David Donnelly via CnC-List > wrote: > > Mistress is now on Lake Wabamun which is about an hour drive west of > Edmonton. We are really happy with the boat so far. > > David > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > >> On September 20, 2014 7:23:27 PM Brent Driedger >> wrote: >> >> Thanks David. Where is Mistress now? >> >> Brent >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:07 PM, David Donnelly via CnC-List >> > wrote: >> > >> > Nice video Brent. Your crew looks effcient. >> > >> > Mistress has few 2nd and 3rd in the flying sails at Gimli in her past. Not >> > racing anymore. >> > >> > Say high to Dale for me. >> > >> > David Donnelly >> > C&C 26 Mistress >> > >> > Sent with AquaMail for Android >> > http://www.aqua-mail.com >> > >> > >> >> On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is still >> >> in the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our last >> >> race of the season. >> >> This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics year. >> >> Our goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet of 7 >> >> boats. Back to flying sails next year! >> >> https://vimeo.com/106679764 >> >> >> >> Brent Driedger >> >> C&C 27 MkV >> >> s/v Wild Rover >> >> Lake Winnipeg >> >> ___ >> >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> >> >> Email address: >> >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> >> page at: >> >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> > >> > Email address: >> > CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> > page at: >> > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> > > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video
Mistress is now on Lake Wabamun which is about an hour drive west of Edmonton. We are really happy with the boat so far. David Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On September 20, 2014 7:23:27 PM Brent Driedger wrote: Thanks David. Where is Mistress now? Brent Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:07 PM, David Donnelly via CnC-List wrote: > > Nice video Brent. Your crew looks effcient. > > Mistress has few 2nd and 3rd in the flying sails at Gimli in her past. Not racing anymore. > > Say high to Dale for me. > > David Donnelly > C&C 26 Mistress > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > >> On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List wrote: >> >> Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is still in the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our last race of the season. >> This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics year. Our goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet of 7 boats. Back to flying sails next year! >> https://vimeo.com/106679764 >> >> Brent Driedger >> C&C 27 MkV >> s/v Wild Rover >> Lake Winnipeg >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video
Thanks David. Where is Mistress now? Brent Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:07 PM, David Donnelly via CnC-List > wrote: > > Nice video Brent. Your crew looks effcient. > > Mistress has few 2nd and 3rd in the flying sails at Gimli in her past. Not > racing anymore. > > Say high to Dale for me. > > David Donnelly > C&C 26 Mistress > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > >> On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is still in >> the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our last race >> of the season. >> This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics year. >> Our goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet of 7 boats. >> Back to flying sails next year! >> https://vimeo.com/106679764 >> >> Brent Driedger >> C&C 27 MkV >> s/v Wild Rover >> Lake Winnipeg >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video
Nice video Brent. Your crew looks effcient. Mistress has few 2nd and 3rd in the flying sails at Gimli in her past. Not racing anymore. Say high to Dale for me. David Donnelly C&C 26 Mistress Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List wrote: Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is still in the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our last race of the season. This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics year. Our goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet of 7 boats. Back to flying sails next year! https://vimeo.com/106679764 Brent Driedger C&C 27 MkV s/v Wild Rover Lake Winnipeg ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
I have been trying to get my wife to take a competent crew course with the same instructor I had. She is reluctant to take the helm but will handle sheets. She does help with docking when she is aboard too. A couple of weeks ago we had a good blow for us with winds steady around 18kts and gusting to about 23. We had a long beat and were on port tack for awhile. As she wasn't enjoying the cockpit experience she went below and proceeded to fall asleep. She is getting better it is only our second year with the boat, I have to be patient. We really enjoy the time at anchor I try to do more of that the days she is out with me. I found my youngest son did better when I forced him to take the helm while I had my lunch one afternoon. We were sailing up wind and as he had to steer to the tell tales he was pretty busy and didn't notice we were heeling. So yes the "having something to do" is good advice. I think part of my problem is even though I have the most tender of the C&C family she doesn't have a tendency to round up even when severly pressed. I am used to it more than the rest of the family I guess and when I know the boat is in that "groove" I am reluctant to ease the traveller down or let main sheet out. Having said that I am often surprised and a little perplexed when we speed up with what I think is a large bubble in the mainsail David Donnelly C&C 26 Mistress Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On September 20, 2014 9:09:37 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote: How comfortable is she sailing the boat? Having sailed with a number of girlfriends, I found the more comfortable they were at the helm, the less concerned they were with heeling, gusts etc. Have you tried giving her the wheel? She can control the heel and you can ease sheets. FWIW, When I taught sailing, I stonrgly recommended that spouses be in different boats because the wives learned and did more. Perhaps she would benefit from lessons from a friend or sailing school? Joel On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: > David, > Well said. I am learning late in life that *many* wives don't appreciate > when a sailboat heels or as mine says, ". . . don't like when it leans". > And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking > through a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes > my wife anxiety or grief. Just when the wind starts getting good, she > usually asks to go somewhere for a swim. > > I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem. His wife is > very similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over > twenty five years ago. He wanted to show off his new boat and his > wonderful country of Holland. His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days > in Holland while the wives went touring by car through France. I noticed > most sailboat crews were guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white > haired couples and the same number of twenty-ish couples. My friend and I > had a great time sailing whenever possible and remarked several times when > the boat was making 8 to 9 knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were > having fun, "The girls would hate this." One leg on the North Sea, we > sailed w just the 110% downwind in 27 knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed. > On the return, we had 18 to 20 knots on the nose. Sailing would have taken > longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, so we motorsailed w a reefed > main making 8.3 knots. The main steadied the boat so she maintained > momentum and sliced better through the waves. I remember playing w the > vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the boat had no > traveller. The girls would have hated it. > > So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy. > > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 -- ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List suspect autopilot- RD II
A handheld VHF or magnetic knife can put your autopilot into an alcoholic stupor as you move around been there done that one LOL A treasured sailing knife has been relegated to a mast pouch... The VHF handheld is in my waist/thigh kit with gps and delorme tracker I have been removing the kit as I came aft. I am sure if there is a non magnetic handheld VHF. Don > On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Kim Brown via CnC-List > wrote: > > Per the crowd view I disconnected the motor and turned things on and the > control heads and other instruments came up fine. Connection seemed fine > without corrosion. Put a meter to the motor lead and hit auto and then a > course change. Volts came out and nothing popped. Reconnected the lead to > the motor. and engaged the autopilot and it responded appropriately. Motor > seemed fine. So now the mystery deepens- moisture get in somewhere and short > things out and then dry out? Is this time related - after an hour or so > motor heats up and dies. Motor/ belt unit just binding in a bad spot and > after disconnecting letting sit etc. it is all better? Will not get a chance > to give it a real work out for a couple of weeks. Worrying to have it > randomly dying. We often use it and a couple of times a year for hours > (think overnight from Key West). Guess we'll see. > > Kim > TrustMe!!! 35-3 > > > All, > The weekend's project is to trace down the dead autopilot. Looking for ideas > about likely suspects to prioritize the process. Standard Raymarine > Wheelpilot- X5? Been working great for years. Chugging up the river trying > to beat the rain last Sunday after a weekend out and it died. Actual symptom > is the breaker blew so the depth, wind, speed and auto went dark. After > getting back on course, had the Admiral flip the breaker and all the units > came back including right heading numbers on the auto pilot but engaging the > autopilot did nothing (not even a whimper out of the motor) except blow the > breaker again. So we hand steered home and left the issue for another day. > Shorted wires, dead motor, or ? Worked fine going out and halfway back. No > event- (wake, rain, course change) it just stopped. It was not working hard. > Anyone have any ideas on what voltages I should see where. There is a > rudder position indicator in the mix. Looking for a 'Mine did that and it > was the " > Thanks > Kim Brown > TrustMe!!! 35-3 > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Racing my MkV video
Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is still in the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our last race of the season. This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics year. Our goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet of 7 boats. Back to flying sails next year! https://vimeo.com/106679764 Brent Driedger C&C 27 MkV s/v Wild Rover Lake Winnipeg ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List suspect autopilot- RD II
Per the crowd view I disconnected the motor and turned things on and the control heads and other instruments came up fine. Connection seemed fine without corrosion. Put a meter to the motor lead and hit auto and then a course change. Volts came out and nothing popped. Reconnected the lead to the motor. and engaged the autopilot and it responded appropriately. Motor seemed fine. So now the mystery deepens- moisture get in somewhere and short things out and then dry out? Is this time related - after an hour or so motor heats up and dies. Motor/ belt unit just binding in a bad spot and after disconnecting letting sit etc. it is all better? Will not get a chance to give it a real work out for a couple of weeks. Worrying to have it randomly dying. We often use it and a couple of times a year for hours (think overnight from Key West). Guess we'll see. Kim TrustMe!!! 35-3 All, The weekend's project is to trace down the dead autopilot. Looking for ideas about likely suspects to prioritize the process. Standard Raymarine Wheelpilot- X5? Been working great for years. Chugging up the river trying to beat the rain last Sunday after a weekend out and it died. Actual symptom is the breaker blew so the depth, wind, speed and auto went dark. After getting back on course, had the Admiral flip the breaker and all the units came back including right heading numbers on the auto pilot but engaging the autopilot did nothing (not even a whimper out of the motor) except blow the breaker again. So we hand steered home and left the issue for another day. Shorted wires, dead motor, or ? Worked fine going out and halfway back. No event- (wake, rain, course change) it just stopped. It was not working hard. Anyone have any ideas on what voltages I should see where. There is a rudder position indicator in the mix. Looking for a 'Mine did that and it was the " Thanks Kim Brown TrustMe!!! 35-3 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
Maybe you're luckier than you think. One of the first times Deborah and I sailed together I was down at the navstation figuring out "nav" stuff. Deborah was steering and, in a calm, gentle voice from the helm, asked "should the toe rail be under water?" I shoulda known I was in trouble right then. A few years ago, we were in the Gulf off Dauphin Island, Alabama . The admiral was driving and I was trimming (155% headsail only). Winds were mid-teens on the beam. We were heeled 15-20 degrees. Deborah had one foot on the cockpit sole and one foot on the coaming. She kept watching the knotmeter. 7.6! Trim! Trim! 7.8! Yay! New personal record. Trim! Trim! 8.0! 8 knots! Awesome. Trim! Trim! We finally got to 8.5 knots. Another new personal best for her. By this time I was worn out from trimming. The next day she wanted to race another sailboat up a section of the ICW in Mississippi Sound. I was trying to enjoy the cruise and drink coffee. She again urged me to trim, trim, trim. So, be careful what you ask for. :) Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: > David, > Well said. I am learning late in life that *many* wives don't appreciate > when a sailboat heels or as mine says, ". . . don't like when it leans". > And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking > through a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes > my wife anxiety or grief. Just when the wind starts getting good, she > usually asks to go somewhere for a swim. > > I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem. His wife is > very similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over > twenty five years ago. He wanted to show off his new boat and his > wonderful country of Holland. His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days > in Holland while the wives went touring by car through France. I noticed > most sailboat crews were guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white > haired couples and the same number of twenty-ish couples. My friend and I > had a great time sailing whenever possible and remarked several times when > the boat was making 8 to 9 knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were > having fun, "The girls would hate this." One leg on the North Sea, we > sailed w just the 110% downwind in 27 knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed. > On the return, we had 18 to 20 knots on the nose. Sailing would have taken > longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, so we motorsailed w a reefed > main making 8.3 knots. The main steadied the boat so she maintained > momentum and sliced better through the waves. I remember playing w the > vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the boat had no > traveller. The girls would have hated it. > > So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy. > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
Ditto all the other comments. For my wife, it was lessons with a captain to learn docking skills (she almost always docks now), working the main during races, and most importantly, a "friend" who made fun of her one day. It wasn't so funny at the time but certainly motivated her. 20 years and about 10,000 miles later she can more than hold her own against experienced sailors. And yes, she took more than her share of night watches offshore. Love that woman! John Sent from my iPad > On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Indigo via CnC-List > wrote: > > Great advice Joel. I would add that the lessons ideally should be in a > smaller, but stable boat. Lessons and time out on our fleet of Ideal 18 > (18ft keelboats) transformed my Admiral. > > -- > Jonathan > Indigo C&C 35III > SOUTHPORT CT > >> On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:09, Joel Aronson via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> >> How comfortable is she sailing the boat? Having sailed with a number of >> girlfriends, I found the more comfortable they were at the helm, the less >> concerned they were with heeling, gusts etc. Have you tried giving her the >> wheel? She can control the heel and you can ease sheets. >> >> FWIW, When I taught sailing, I stonrgly recommended that spouses be in >> different boats because the wives learned and did more. >> >> Perhaps she would benefit from lessons from a friend or sailing school? >> >> Joel >> >> >> >>> On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Chuck S via CnC-List >>> wrote: >>> David, >>> Well said. I am learning late in life that many wives don't appreciate >>> when a sailboat heels or as mine says, ". . . don't like when it leans". >>> And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking >>> through a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes >>> my wife anxiety or grief. Just when the wind starts getting good, she >>> usually asks to go somewhere for a swim. >>> >>> I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem. His wife is very >>> similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over twenty >>> five years ago. He wanted to show off his new boat and his wonderful >>> country of Holland. His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days in Holland >>> while the wives went touring by car through France. I noticed most >>> sailboat crews were guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white haired >>> couples and the same number of twenty-ish couples. My friend and I had a >>> great time sailing whenever possible and remarked several times when the >>> boat was making 8 to 9 knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were having >>> fun, "The girls would hate this." One leg on the North Sea, we sailed w >>> just the 110% downwind in 27 knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed. On the >>> return, we had 18 to 20 knots on the nose. Sailing would have taken >>> longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, so we motorsailed w a reefed >>> main making 8.3 knots. The main steadied the boat so she maintained >>> momentum and sliced better through the waves. I remember playing w the >>> vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the boat had no >>> traveller. The girls would have hated it. >>> >>> So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy. >> >> >> -- >> Joel >> 301 541 8551 >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
Great advice Joel. I would add that the lessons ideally should be in a smaller, but stable boat. Lessons and time out on our fleet of Ideal 18 (18ft keelboats) transformed my Admiral. -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT > On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:09, Joel Aronson via CnC-List > wrote: > > > How comfortable is she sailing the boat? Having sailed with a number of > girlfriends, I found the more comfortable they were at the helm, the less > concerned they were with heeling, gusts etc. Have you tried giving her the > wheel? She can control the heel and you can ease sheets. > > FWIW, When I taught sailing, I stonrgly recommended that spouses be in > different boats because the wives learned and did more. > > Perhaps she would benefit from lessons from a friend or sailing school? > > Joel > > > >> On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Chuck S via CnC-List >> wrote: >> David, >> Well said. I am learning late in life that many wives don't appreciate when >> a sailboat heels or as mine says, ". . . don't like when it leans". >> And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking through >> a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes my wife >> anxiety or grief. Just when the wind starts getting good, she usually asks >> to go somewhere for a swim. >> >> I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem. His wife is very >> similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over twenty >> five years ago. He wanted to show off his new boat and his wonderful >> country of Holland. His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days in Holland >> while the wives went touring by car through France. I noticed most sailboat >> crews were guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white haired couples >> and the same number of twenty-ish couples. My friend and I had a great time >> sailing whenever possible and remarked several times when the boat was >> making 8 to 9 knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were having fun, "The >> girls would hate this." One leg on the North Sea, we sailed w just the 110% >> downwind in 27 knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed. On the return, we had >> 18 to 20 knots on the nose. Sailing would have taken longer, causing us to >> miss getting a slip, so we motorsailed w a reefed main making 8.3 knots. >> The main steadied the boat so she maintained momentum and sliced better >> through the waves. I remember playing w the vang to get a better shape to >> the top of the sail, because the boat had no traveller. The girls would >> have hated it. >> >> So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy. > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
I completely agree with Joel. I am one of those wives who doesn't like a lot off boat heel. I recognize that it is completely illogical and I do try to push myself. I have found that when the wind picks up I do much much better when I am on the helm- that way I can pinch when I feel uncomfortable. My husband is also really good about reducing sail when I ask. Having a sense of control makes all the difference. Joanne Sent from Windows Mail From: Ron Casciato via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 11:09 AM To: Chuck S, Ron Casciato via CnC-List How comfortable is she sailing the boat? Having sailed with a number of girlfriends, I found the more comfortable they were at the helm, the less concerned they were with heeling, gusts etc. Have you tried giving her the wheel? She can control the heel and you can ease sheets. FWIW, When I taught sailing, I stonrgly recommended that spouses be in different boats because the wives learned and did more. Perhaps she would benefit from lessons from a friend or sailing school? Joel On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: David, Well said. I am learning late in life that many wives don't appreciate when a sailboat heels or as mine says, ". . . don't like when it leans". And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking through a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes my wife anxiety or grief. Just when the wind starts getting good, she usually asks to go somewhere for a swim. I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem. His wife is very similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over twenty five years ago. He wanted to show off his new boat and his wonderful country of Holland. His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days in Holland while the wives went touring by car through France. I noticed most sailboat crews were guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white haired couples and the same number of twenty-ish couples. My friend and I had a great time sailing whenever possible and remarked several times when the boat was making 8 to 9 knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were having fun, "The girls would hate this." One leg on the North Sea, we sailed w just the 110% downwind in 27 knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed. On the return, we had 18 to 20 knots on the nose. Sailing would have taken longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, so we motorsailed w a reefed main making 8.3 knots. The main steadied the boat so she maintained momentum and sliced better through the waves. I remember playing w the vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the boat had no traveller. The girls would have hated it. So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy. -- Joel 301 541 8551___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
How comfortable is she sailing the boat? Having sailed with a number of girlfriends, I found the more comfortable they were at the helm, the less concerned they were with heeling, gusts etc. Have you tried giving her the wheel? She can control the heel and you can ease sheets. FWIW, When I taught sailing, I stonrgly recommended that spouses be in different boats because the wives learned and did more. Perhaps she would benefit from lessons from a friend or sailing school? Joel On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: > David, > Well said. I am learning late in life that *many* wives don't appreciate > when a sailboat heels or as mine says, ". . . don't like when it leans". > And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking > through a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes > my wife anxiety or grief. Just when the wind starts getting good, she > usually asks to go somewhere for a swim. > > I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem. His wife is > very similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over > twenty five years ago. He wanted to show off his new boat and his > wonderful country of Holland. His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days > in Holland while the wives went touring by car through France. I noticed > most sailboat crews were guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white > haired couples and the same number of twenty-ish couples. My friend and I > had a great time sailing whenever possible and remarked several times when > the boat was making 8 to 9 knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were > having fun, "The girls would hate this." One leg on the North Sea, we > sailed w just the 110% downwind in 27 knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed. > On the return, we had 18 to 20 knots on the nose. Sailing would have taken > longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, so we motorsailed w a reefed > main making 8.3 knots. The main steadied the boat so she maintained > momentum and sliced better through the waves. I remember playing w the > vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the boat had no > traveller. The girls would have hated it. > > So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy. > > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone
Have enjoyed these posts. I too on occasion sail with just the jib. I did not see it mentioned, but I understand there is a term for sailing only the jib and it is sometime referred to as "Brazilian" sailing. Lloyd Lippe Finesse Landfall 39 - Original Message - From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List To: David Donnelly ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:50 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone Thanks everyone for confirming that I m not doing any harm. The boat sails well with just the 135 even upwind. I may sail that way more often! Joel On Friday, September 19, 2014, David Donnelly via CnC-List wrote: I often sail with a single sail with my wife on board. She likes everything about sailing except the sailing (heeling) so I like to keep it relatively calm if the wind is over 10 kts. If the wind is up and direction favors reaching most of the day I only use the main, but if the wind is light and we have to point at all we use the genoa. I also sail on and off my mooring ball quite a bit and usually do my final approach under main alone. I find the main to be a fair bit slower but as I am alone most of the time on my boat it isn't in my way or need furling when I have to walk foward to grab my mooring lines. On my 26 the real power comes off the genoa but I suspect most boats are that way. I never really gave much thought to stressing the rig and I haven't observed anything unusual. We sail on a lake and dont have the rough water that coastal sailors have. David Donnelly C&C 26 Mistress Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 -- ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
David, Well said. I am learning late in life that many wives don't appreciate when a sailboat heels or as mine says, ". . . don't like when it leans". And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking through a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes my wife anxiety or grief. Just when the wind starts getting good, she usually asks to go somewhere for a swim. I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem. His wife is very similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over twenty five years ago. He wanted to show off his new boat and his wonderful country of Holland. His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days in Holland while the wives went touring by car through France. I noticed most sailboat crews were guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white haired couples and the same number of twenty-ish couples. My friend and I had a great time sailing whenever possible and remarked several times when the boat was making 8 to 9 knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were having fun, "The girls would hate this." One leg on the North Sea, we sailed w just the 110% downwind in 27 knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed. On the return, we had 18 to 20 knots on the nose. Sailing would have taken longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, so we motorsailed w a reefed main making 8.3 knots. The main steadied the boat so she maintained momentum and sliced better through the waves. I remember playing w the vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the boat had no traveller. The girls would have hated it. So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone
Thanks everyone for confirming that I m not doing any harm. The boat sails well with just the 135 even upwind. I may sail that way more often! Joel On Friday, September 19, 2014, David Donnelly via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I often sail with a single sail with my wife on board. She likes > everything about sailing except the sailing (heeling) so I like to keep it > relatively calm if the wind is over 10 kts. If the wind is up and direction > favors reaching most of the day I only use the main, but if the wind is > light and we have to point at all we use the genoa. I also sail on and off > my mooring ball quite a bit and usually do my final approach under main > alone. I find the main to be a fair bit slower but as I am alone most of > the time on my boat it isn't in my way or need furling when I have to walk > foward to grab my mooring lines. > > On my 26 the real power comes off the genoa but I suspect most boats are > that way. > > I never really gave much thought to stressing the rig and I haven't > observed anything unusual. We sail on a lake and dont have the rough water > that coastal sailors have. > > David Donnelly > C&C 26 Mistress > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
