Re: Stus-List 34/36 bowsprit retrofit

2014-10-16 Thread Ebay via CnC-List
Francois

For cruising purposes you may want to take a look at Doyle's UPS or similar 
product.  It's essentially a smaller chute on a simple continuous line furling 
drum.  The drum attaches to any convenient fitting with a snap shackle.  By far 
it is the easiest system for a 2 person crew to manage.

I've used both the tacker and various socks over the years.  While they work 
reasonably well the furling system is just in another league in terms of 
convenience.

Just another option.

John

Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 16, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 That is a cool upgrade and a super nice install..  As an alternative has 
 anyone experimented with an ATN Tacker and Spinnaker Sleave?  
 
 I understand that you'd loose some performance with the Tacker but it seems 
 like it would be worth a try, it's pretty cheap and easy.  
 
 I'm definitely getting both as I want to fly the spin with my wife and kids. 
 The Tacker eliminates the big / heavy pole, the sock takes the drama out of 
 deploying / retrieving.
 
 -Francois Rivard
 1990 34+ Take Five
 Lake Lanier, Ga
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Re: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII

2014-10-16 Thread Phil Boyd via CnC-List
Freya (Freiya?)  Dark hull?  Used to sail out of Newport?  If its the boat I'm 
thinking of it used to be a very sharp looking boat, but abused and *very* 
badly maintained (I always used to think it was a real shame).  Unless 
subsequent owners have put a pile of cash into her better examples can be 
found.  

As others have said the 35 mkiii has balsa cored hull and deck - unlike the mki 
and mkii which had solid hulls.   When the hull is dry, they're excellent, when 
they're not, it is a significant expense to fix (i.e. not worth it, even if the 
boat is free).   
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Stus-List sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Anyone headed out? It looks like we'll have frontal passage here Saturday 
night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 knots on 
the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the forecast is 
uphill both ways and I don't trust Kent Narrows with a strong northerly.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
CC 35
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Re: Stus-List 34/36 bowsprit retrofit

2014-10-16 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
I have an ATN Tacker, played with it for a while, and decided the 
benefit wasn't worth the hassle and just rigged the clew down to the bow 
rollers.  The sock, on the other hand, is essential for me as a short 
handed cruiser.  The Tacker was relegated to the essential job of 
suspending a hammock from the furler.


Wal

you wrote:

As an alternative has anyone
experimented with an ATN Tacker and Spinnaker Sleave?



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Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Possible day sail Saturday, then frostbiting out of West River Sunday.

Enjoy Charm City!

Joel

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cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  Anyone headed out? It looks like we’ll have frontal passage here
 Saturday night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with
 15 knots on the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but
 the forecast is uphill both ways and I don’t trust Kent Narrows with a
 strong northerly.



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Re: Stus-List 34/36 bowsprit retrofit

2014-10-16 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
I stopped using tacker as well a now use bow anchor roller.  Gets sail out 
further and makes it easier.  Jerry. C C 27V JJ.  

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 16, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 I have an ATN Tacker, played with it for a while, and decided the benefit 
 wasn't worth the hassle and just rigged the clew down to the bow rollers.  
 The sock, on the other hand, is essential for me as a short handed cruiser.  
 The Tacker was relegated to the essential job of suspending a hammock from 
 the furler.
 
 Wal
 
 you wrote:
 As an alternative has anyone
 experimented with an ATN Tacker and Spinnaker Sleave?
 
 
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Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
Rain rain rain rain rain rain rain.

That's our forecast for the next 7 days. We might get a bit of a break
today so this may be the day I go out and take all the summer cruising gear
off.
While a little depressing, the good side of this is that the boat sails
much better without all that crap on it.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 16 October 2014 07:48, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 Possible day sail Saturday, then frostbiting out of West River Sunday.

 Enjoy Charm City!

 Joel

 On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  Anyone headed out? It looks like we’ll have frontal passage here
 Saturday night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with
 15 knots on the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but
 the forecast is uphill both ways and I don’t trust Kent Narrows with a
 strong northerly.



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Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Rain is clearing out for us right now. I’ll get – if all goes as planned – a 
beam reach to Baltimore in light southerlies tomorrow and a broad reach home in 
15-20 on Sunday.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts 
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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

Rain rain rain rain rain rain rain.
That's our forecast for the next 7 days. We might get a bit of a break today so 
this may be the day I go out and take all the summer cruising gear off.
While a little depressing, the good side of this is that the boat sails much 
better without all that crap on it.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 16 October 2014 07:48, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Possible day sail Saturday, then frostbiting out of West River Sunday.

Enjoy Charm City!

Joel

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Anyone headed out? It looks like we’ll have frontal passage here Saturday 
night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 knots on 
the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the forecast is 
uphill both ways and I don’t trust Kent Narrows with a strong northerly.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
CC 35

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Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Jim

 

In Halifax we are taking all that sailing crap off.  You know – stuff like 
sails, booms and masts.  Last race of season in Halifax Oct 25 and more than 
half the boats out now

 

Your problem sounds a lot nicer

 

Mike

Persistence

 

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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:07 PM
To: Joel Aronson; 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

 

Rain rain rain rain rain rain rain.

That's our forecast for the next 7 days. We might get a bit of a break today so 
this may be the day I go out and take all the summer cruising gear off. 

While a little depressing, the good side of this is that the boat sails much 
better without all that crap on it. 




Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

 

On 16 October 2014 07:48, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

Possible day sail Saturday, then frostbiting out of West River Sunday. 

 

Enjoy Charm City!

 

Joel

 

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

Anyone headed out? It looks like we’ll have frontal passage here 
Saturday night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 
knots on the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the 
forecast is uphill both ways and I don’t trust Kent Narrows with a strong 
northerly.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

CC 35

 

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Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Bill Hoyne via CnC-List
I know!! I have been wanting to head to Victoria for a few weeks now but can’t 
convince myself to leave warm sunny Alberta.

Bill Hoyne
Mithrandir
’74 CC35 MkII
in Victoria,BC


On Oct 16, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

 Rain rain rain rain rain rain rain.
 
 That's our forecast for the next 7 days. We might get a bit of a break today 
 so this may be the day I go out and take all the summer cruising gear off. 
 While a little depressing, the good side of this is that the boat sails much 
 better without all that crap on it. 
 
 Jim Watts
 Paradigm Shift
 CC 35 Mk III
 Victoria, BC
 
 On 16 October 2014 07:48, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 Possible day sail Saturday, then frostbiting out of West River Sunday. 
 
 Enjoy Charm City!
 
 Joel
 
 On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 Anyone headed out? It looks like we’ll have frontal passage here Saturday 
 night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 knots on 
 the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the forecast is 
 uphill both ways and I don’t trust Kent Narrows with a strong northerly.
 
  
 
 Joe Della Barba
 
 Coquina
 
 CC 35
 
 
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Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Tim Sippel via CnC-List
*sigh*

With any luck we won’t get rained on as we unstep another 80+ masts Saturday 
and Sunday

Tim
CC 33MKII
 Torontohttp://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=250

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Rain is clearing out for us right now. I’ll get – if all goes as planned – a 
beam reach to Baltimore in light southerlies tomorrow and a broad reach home in 
15-20 on Sunday.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
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Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

Rain rain rain rain rain rain rain.
That's our forecast for the next 7 days. We might get a bit of a break today so 
this may be the day I go out and take all the summer cruising gear off.
While a little depressing, the good side of this is that the boat sails much 
better without all that crap on it.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 16 October 2014 07:48, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
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Possible day sail Saturday, then frostbiting out of West River Sunday.

Enjoy Charm City!

Joel

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Anyone headed out? It looks like we’ll have frontal passage here Saturday 
night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 knots on 
the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the forecast is 
uphill both ways and I don’t trust Kent Narrows with a strong northerly.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
CC 35

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Stus-List A Special Thank You

2014-10-16 Thread Stu via CnC-List
To Andrew Burton – Trident Studio (The Half Hull Company).

Today’s mail contained a beautiful 1/2 hull model of Diversion, a CC Yacht I 
owned for over 15 years,

It brought back a lot of memories and will have a special place in our home so 
we can remember the good times forever.

Thank you Andrew

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Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I am usnstepping mine today and it rains.

Marek 
in Ottawa

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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:33 PM
To: Della Barba, Joe ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

*sigh* 

 

With any luck we won’t get rained on as we unstep another 80+ masts Saturday 
and Sunday 

 

Tim 

CC 33MKII 
 Toronto 

 

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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:11 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

 

Rain is clearing out for us right now. I’ll get – if all goes as planned – a 
beam reach to Baltimore in light southerlies tomorrow and a broad reach home in 
15-20 on Sunday.  

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

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Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

 

Rain rain rain rain rain rain rain.

That's our forecast for the next 7 days. We might get a bit of a break today so 
this may be the day I go out and take all the summer cruising gear off. 

While a little depressing, the good side of this is that the boat sails much 
better without all that crap on it. 




Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

 

On 16 October 2014 07:48, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

  Possible day sail Saturday, then frostbiting out of West River Sunday. 

   

  Enjoy Charm City!

   

  Joel

   

  On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

Anyone headed out? It looks like we’ll have frontal passage here Saturday 
night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 knots on 
the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the forecast is 
uphill both ways and I don’t trust Kent Narrows with a strong northerly.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

CC 35

 

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Re: Stus-List A Special Thank You

2014-10-16 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Andrew was kind enough to give us a tour of his shop when we were in
Newport this summer.  He makes gorgeous half-hull models of all kinds of
boats, and has a whole wall of them on display.  Of course, the prettiest
ones are the CC models!

Joel

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   To Andrew Burton – Trident Studio (The Half Hull Company).

 Today’s mail contained a beautiful 1/2 hull model of Diversion, a CC
 Yacht I owned for over 15 years,

 It brought back a lot of memories and will have a special place in our
 home so we can remember the good times forever.

 Thank you Andrew

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Re: Stus-List A Special Thank You

2014-10-16 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Thanks for all you do here, mate.

Andy
CC 40
Peregrine

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   To Andrew Burton – Trident Studio (The Half Hull Company).

 Today’s mail contained a beautiful 1/2 hull model of Diversion, a CC
 Yacht I owned for over 15 years,

 It brought back a lot of memories and will have a special place in our
 home so we can remember the good times forever.

 Thank you Andrew

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Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
Second Frostbite of the season on Saturday - on the lower Miles River. We're 
wimps...

Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
  To: Della Barba, Joe ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:48 AM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend


  Possible day sail Saturday, then frostbiting out of West River Sunday. 


  Enjoy Charm City!


  Joel


  On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

Anyone headed out? It looks like we’ll have frontal passage here Saturday 
night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 knots on 
the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the forecast is 
uphill both ways and I don’t trust Kent Narrows with a strong northerly.



Joe Della Barba

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Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
We will be racing on Sunday in Branford, CT.  The Around the Bouys
Wednesday night series transitions to Sundays between Labor Day and end of
October .  The course is normally set around a few nearby government marks,
but this week is slightly different with a course out around Faulkner's
Island (about 10nm) away and back.  The forecast is for ~50 degrees, no
rain, 20kn - downwind on the way out. I'm planning to break the blooper out
for the first time since I've owned Mojito as we have a few experienced
people on board and a long leg to play with it.

It's a very casual race so any other CC's around Branford would be very
welcome if they just turn up and announce themselves on Ch 68.  Warning
signal is 11:00am at Cow  Calf just outside the harbor.

Tim
Mojito
CC 35-3
Branford, CT

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  Anyone headed out? It looks like we’ll have frontal passage here
 Saturday night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with
 15 knots on the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but
 the forecast is uphill both ways and I don’t trust Kent Narrows with a
 strong northerly.



 *Joe Della Barba*

 *Coquina*

 *CC 35*

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Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
I'm hoping to go out Saturday.  The weather here is looking pretty good so 
far...  Sunday looks good too only a bit colder. DannyLolita1973 Viking 
33Westport Point, MA

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To: Della Barba, Joe joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov,  cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:49:10 -0400


We will be racing on Sunday in Branford, CT.  The Around the Bouys Wednesday 
night series transitions to Sundays between Labor Day and end of October .  The 
course is normally set around a few nearby government marks, but this week is 
slightly different with a course out around Faulkner's Island (about 10nm) away 
and back.  The forecast is for ~50 degrees, no rain, 20kn - downwind on the way 
out. I'm planning to break the blooper out for the first time since I've owned 
Mojito as we have a few experienced people on board and a long leg to play with 
it. It's a very casual race so any other CC's around Branford would be very 
welcome if they just turn up and announce themselves on Ch 68.  Warning signal 
is 11:00am at Cow  Calf just outside the harbor.
 TimMojitoCC 35-3Branford, CT
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Anyone headed out? It looks like wersquo;ll have frontal passage here Saturday 
night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 knots on 
the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the forecast is 
uphill both ways and I donrsquo;t trust Kent Narrows with a strong northerly.
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
CC 35

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Re: Stus-List Ebola?

2014-10-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Over the last 4 weeks I believe we are up to 6 total infected people 2
cured, 1 dead.  By comparison 6 people per DAY die from electrocution.  We
need to keep it in control but it is hardly a pandemic.  Oddly they are now
choosing to transport an infected patient from Texas to Bethesda, MD.
Seems like maybe a questionable decision.

Josh
Solomons, MD
On Oct 16, 2014 7:36 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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 Is everybody up there okay?  I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola in
 the US and Canada.

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Re: Stus-List Ebola?

2014-10-16 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
all well in my neck of the woods!

Danny

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Subject: Stus-List Ebola?
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 23:35:37 +

Is everybody up there okay?  I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola 
in the US and Canada.

Wal

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Re: Stus-List Ebola?

2014-10-16 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
All tests negative in Canada. When it comes here we're just going to pull its 
jersey over its head and punch it into submission. 
CC forever

Brent Driedger
27-5 
Lake Winnipeg. 
Ebola free, not zebra muscle. 


Sent from my iPhone

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 the US and Canada.
 
 Wal
 
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Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

2014-10-16 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Listers,

Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I’m starting my list of 
projects -- One of which is some mast work. 

Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if 
so, what did you use. 

There’s an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so 
it’s on my mind.

And no, the transporter can’t materialize me at the top of the mast. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

2014-10-16 Thread Pierre Tremblay via CnC-List
Turbo lift?

Pierre Tremblay 
Avalanche #54988 
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
 


 De : Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Envoyé le : jeudi 16 octobre 2014 19h58
Objet : Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
  


Listers,

Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I’m starting my list of projects 
-- One of which is some mast work. 

Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, 
what did you use. 

There’s an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so it’s on 
my mind.

And no, the transporter can’t materialize me at the top of the mast. 




All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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Re: Stus-List Ebola?

2014-10-16 Thread Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List
From what I've read there are 30 people die from obesity every year,
8 from smoking, 15000 from alcohol, and I don'r know how many from
hunger and other reasons. I think it is another way to divert our minds from
politics and what has been done wrong and it is being done wrong everyday,
and stir some I don't know what. 

 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario

Not for long

 

92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible

95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible

07 Yamaha Straotoliner S

SCRC 011059

SRO 26-6483

 

TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!

Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?

Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh
Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: October 16, 2014 7:50 PM
To: w...@wbryant.com; CC List; w...@wbryant.com; CC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola?

 

Over the last 4 weeks I believe we are up to 6 total infected people 2
cured, 1 dead.  By comparison 6 people per DAY die from electrocution.  We
need to keep it in control but it is hardly a pandemic.  Oddly they are now
choosing to transport an infected patient from Texas to Bethesda, MD.  Seems
like maybe a questionable decision.

Josh
Solomons, MD

On Oct 16, 2014 7:36 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote:

Is everybody up there okay?  I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola in
the US and Canada.

Wal

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Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

2014-10-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The ATN top climmer has worked pretty well for me but I would not buy one.
The TC is simply two Gibbs ascenders attached custom bosun's chair and 60'
or 70' of 1/2 rope.

They arrangement of the ascenders is such that the chair is attached to the
top on and a foot strap is attached to the bottom one.  Standing up on the
foot straps allows you to raise the upper ascender which brings the chair
tight to your butt.  Sit down in the chair and now you can bend your knees
to raise the lower ascender.  You inchworm your way up the rope.  The rope
that was tied to the mast collar on deck and winched taught to the top of
the mast.  One could safely use a halyard pull the rope tight.  Tight is
key.  No stretch rope is also key.

I would look to MAKE a similar system but using rock climbing ascenders
(gibbs or otherwise).  I would also use a rock climbing harness as a
primary and maybe take a comfortable bosun's chair of choice to the top IF
I was going to be there for more than 10 min.  The ascenders cost $30-50.
Rope $50-70.  Harness $50-100.  Gear can be found at EMS.com or instore.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 CC 37+
Solomons, MD
On Oct 16, 2014 7:58 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 Listers,

 Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I'm starting my list of
 projects -- One of which is some mast work.

 Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if
 so, what did you use.

 There's an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so
 it's on my mind.

 And no, the transporter can't materialize me at the top of the mast.


 All the best,

 Edd


 Edd M. Schillay
 Starship Enterprise
 CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
 City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
All this talk of Frostbiting makes me glad I live in North Carolina. Mid 80s 
and mostly sunny this afternoon, with winds 6 to 9 from the southwest. Pretty 
much sunny mid to high 70s and 7 or 8 knots for the weekend. Heck, we have a 
Sunfish series in January down here.

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary 
Nylander via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:25 PM
To: Joel Aronson; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

 

Second Frostbite of the season on Saturday - on the lower Miles River. We're 
wimps...

 

Gary

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From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  

To: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov  ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  

Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:48 AM

Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

 

Possible day sail Saturday, then frostbiting out of West River Sunday.  

 

Enjoy Charm City!

 

Joel

 

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote:

Anyone headed out? It looks like we’ll have frontal passage here Saturday 
night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 knots on 
the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the forecast is 
uphill both ways and I don’t trust Kent Narrows with a strong northerly.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

CC 35


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Stus-List A Special Thank You

2014-10-16 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List

Stu:

Congratulations,  there is no other way to describe 'her', 'she' is 
beautiful to look at.and it helps to recall the 15 years of fond 
memories.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2014/10/16 1:39 PM, Stu via CnC-List wrote:

To Andrew Burton -- Trident Studio (The Half Hull Company).
Today's mail contained a beautiful 1/2 hull model of Diversion, a CC 
Yacht I owned for over 15 years,
It brought back a lot of memories and will have a special place in our 
home so we can remember the good times forever.

Thank you Andrew
Stu


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Re: Stus-List Ebola?

2014-10-16 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Things are NOT OK.  The government is getting involved. 

Dennis C.

Sent from my iPhone

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 Is everybody up there okay?  I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola in 
 the US and Canada.
 
 Wal
 
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Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

2014-10-16 Thread Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List
I bought ATN top climber few years back at the Annapolis boat show. I used
it once to try it. It worked well in the marina on a calm day. A change for
a plain bosun's.  A bit tiring after half mast climb. Would not be helpful
for solo out in my travels. I installed mast steps and save me a lot of
aggravation when I really needed to climb up the mast fast. 

 

Yanni boatless in Ontario

Not for long

 

92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible

95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible

07 Yamaha Straotoliner S

SCRC 011059

SRO 26-6483

 

TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!

Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?

Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh
Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: October 16, 2014 8:18 PM
To: CC List; Edd Schillay; CC List; Edd Schillay
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

 

The ATN top climmer has worked pretty well for me but I would not buy one.
The TC is simply two Gibbs ascenders attached custom bosun's chair and 60'
or 70' of 1/2 rope.

They arrangement of the ascenders is such that the chair is attached to the
top on and a foot strap is attached to the bottom one.  Standing up on the
foot straps allows you to raise the upper ascender which brings the chair
tight to your butt.  Sit down in the chair and now you can bend your knees
to raise the lower ascender.  You inchworm your way up the rope.  The rope
that was tied to the mast collar on deck and winched taught to the top of
the mast.  One could safely use a halyard pull the rope tight.  Tight is
key.  No stretch rope is also key.

I would look to MAKE a similar system but using rock climbing ascenders
(gibbs or otherwise).  I would also use a rock climbing harness as a primary
and maybe take a comfortable bosun's chair of choice to the top IF I was
going to be there for more than 10 min.  The ascenders cost $30-50.  Rope
$50-70.  Harness $50-100.  Gear can be found at EMS.com or instore.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 CC 37+
Solomons, MD

On Oct 16, 2014 7:58 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote:

Listers,

 

Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I'm starting my list of
projects -- One of which is some mast work. 

 

Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so,
what did you use. 

 

There's an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so it's
on my mind.

 

And no, the transporter can't materialize me at the top of the mast. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ 

 


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Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

2014-10-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Here's a couple of links to spring off of for ascender climbing.  The foot
ascenders look promissing.

A waste strap/line can also be passed around the mast and both ends
attached to the harness (one end on a carabiner for fast passing of
obstructions).  This is added safety to prevent accidentally twisting
upside down and you slipping out of the harness or chair.  This is one
reason I prefer a harness.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ascender+climbingoq=ascender

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascender_(climbing)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2LK20hvHQyA

http://www.rockandice.com/lates-news/ascender-safety-101

Josh
 On Oct 16, 2014 7:58 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 Listers,

 Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I'm starting my list of
 projects -- One of which is some mast work.

 Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if
 so, what did you use.

 There's an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so
 it's on my mind.

 And no, the transporter can't materialize me at the top of the mast.


 All the best,

 Edd


 Edd M. Schillay
 Starship Enterprise
 CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
 City Island, NY
 Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/


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Re: Stus-List Ebola?

2014-10-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Good point.
On Oct 16, 2014 8:33 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 Things are NOT OK.  The government is getting involved.

 Dennis C.

 Sent from my iPhone

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 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
  Is everybody up there okay?  I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola
 in the US and Canada.
 
  Wal
 
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Stus-List Butyl

2014-10-16 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
But the question was what would remove butyl where it was not wanted.  
Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.why wouldn't 
they, they are petroleum based.


But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your 
deck paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our 
deck paint, annually!


So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl 
is removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone.


What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.




On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote:
My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave residue 
that prevents proper sealing.


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Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM
To: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Butyl

Mike:
Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
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Halifax, N.S.

Unstepped the mast yesterday.being hauled out any day now!




On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:


The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove it 
from where it was not wanted.  Old fittings being rebidded that had 
been using butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere on non 
skid and nearly impossible to remove.  Is there some sort of 
cleaner/solvent that rids us of that?


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Re: Stus-List Ebola?

2014-10-16 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Hi Josh, 

Agree. But why did they separate the two infected nurses, the ones that care 
for the ebola patient who died, and send them to different hospitals for care? 
That doubles the number of people exposed. Maybe it's for training the hospital 
staff? 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? 



Over the last 4 weeks I believe we are up to 6 total infected people 2 cured, 1 
dead. By comparison 6 people per DAY die from electrocution. We need to keep it 
in control but it is hardly a pandemic. Oddly they are now choosing to 
transport an infected patient from Texas to Bethesda, MD. Seems like maybe a 
questionable decision. 

Josh 
Solomons, MD 
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Is everybody up there okay? I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola in the 
US and Canada. 

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Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

2014-10-16 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Mack Sails has one I am thinking of getting.  It is shown in the installation 
video for their Mackpack (which I am getting). They don’t advertise them, but I 
was told they do make them up and sell them for people.   You can see it in use 
about 4.5 minutes in to the video.  I am sure it would take me a lot longer to 
go up, but it looks easy to use.  Still don’t know the cost (are you listening, 
Travis?) Dave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3RT3iajT-Elist=FLzBlwDs4NZ1W1NImTfRSC-w

On Oct 16, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

 Here's a couple of links to spring off of for ascender climbing.  The foot 
 ascenders look promissing.
 
 A waste strap/line can also be passed around the mast and both ends attached 
 to the harness (one end on a carabiner for fast passing of obstructions).  
 This is added safety to prevent accidentally twisting upside down and you 
 slipping out of the harness or chair.  This is one reason I prefer a harness.
 
 https://www.google.com/search?q=ascender+climbingoq=ascender
 
 http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascender_(climbing)
 
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=2LK20hvHQyA
 
 http://www.rockandice.com/lates-news/ascender-safety-101
 
 Josh
 On Oct 16, 2014 7:58 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 Listers,
 
   Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I’m starting my list of 
 projects -- One of which is some mast work. 
 
   Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if 
 so, what did you use. 
 
   There’s an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so 
 it’s on my mind.
 
   And no, the transporter can’t materialize me at the top of the mast. 
 
 
   All the best,
 
   Edd
 
 
   Edd M. Schillay
   Starship Enterprise
   CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
   City Island, NY 
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Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

2014-10-16 Thread Jack Brennan via CnC-List
It’s worth wandering around the marina and testing a couple of systems before 
buying one.

Everyone seems to have a different preference, depending on your fear of 
heights, taste for adventure, physical condition, etc.

I inherited a Mast Mate and didn’t like the spongy feel of the ladder. I tried 
an ATN Mast Climber and didn’t like it much, either, probably because I wasn’t 
using a really taut, low-stretch line. Currently, I have a four-part system 
(two double blocks) with 200 feet of line that allows me to lift myself up if 
needed.

Of course, the best system is the one I use most often – a wife who thinks it’s 
kind of fun to get lifted up the mast.

Jack Brennan
Former CC 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.



From: David Knecht via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:54 PM
To: Josh Muckley ; CnC CnC discussion list
Cc: Travis
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

Mack Sails has one I am thinking of getting.  It is shown in the installation 
video for their Mackpack (which I am getting). They don’t advertise them, but I 
was told they do make them up and sell them for people.   You can see it in use 
about 4.5 minutes in to the video.  I am sure it would take me a lot longer to 
go up, but it looks easy to use.  Still don’t know the cost (are you listening, 
Travis?) Dave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3RT3iajT-Elist=FLzBlwDs4NZ1W1NImTfRSC-w

On Oct 16, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:


  Here's a couple of links to spring off of for ascender climbing.  The foot 
ascenders look promissing.

  A waste strap/line can also be passed around the mast and both ends attached 
to the harness (one end on a carabiner for fast passing of obstructions).  This 
is added safety to prevent accidentally twisting upside down and you slipping 
out of the harness or chair.  This is one reason I prefer a harness.

  https://www.google.com/search?q=ascender+climbingoq=ascender

  http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascender_(climbing)

  http://youtube.com/watch?v=2LK20hvHQyA

  http://www.rockandice.com/lates-news/ascender-safety-101


  Josh


  On Oct 16, 2014 7:58 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

Listers,

Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I’m starting my list of 
projects -- One of which is some mast work.

Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, 
what did you use.

There’s an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so 
it’s on my mind.

And no, the transporter can’t materialize me at the top of the mast. 




All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Hi Joe, 
I hope to sail this weekend. Not sure yet if I can get two days, but I'd like 
to make that trip? Should know tomorrow. 

From your comment, do you mean the strong Northerly will blow the water out of 
the Bay and Kent Narrows depths will be too low to risk it? 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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Subject: Stus-List sailing this weekend 



Anyone headed out? It looks like we’ll have frontal passage here Saturday 
night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 knots on 
the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the forecast is 
uphill both ways and I don’t trust Kent Narrows with a strong northerly. 




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Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

2014-10-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Yeah Jack, ATN didn't do themselves any favors when then used the stretchy
rope.  Too difficult to pull the rope tight enough.  If you get a chance to
find some ascenders it would be easy to reuse everything you already have
to make a top climber

A 4:1 block and tackle means that you have to use your arms to pull down
40-50lbs, 75 to 100 times.  Not particularly hard but slow and tiring.
Using any ascender system relies on using you legs to simply squat your
body weight 30 to 40 times.  Easier than climbing 4 flights of stairs.  I
estimated 1-2 feet per pull or squat and a 50' mast.

Josh
On Oct 16, 2014 9:18 PM, Jack Brennan via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

   It's worth wandering around the marina and testing a couple of systems
 before buying one.

 Everyone seems to have a different preference, depending on your fear of
 heights, taste for adventure, physical condition, etc.

 I inherited a Mast Mate and didn't like the spongy feel of the ladder. I
 tried an ATN Mast Climber and didn't like it much, either, probably because
 I wasn't using a really taut, low-stretch line. Currently, I have a
 four-part system (two double blocks) with 200 feet of line that allows me
 to lift myself up if needed.

 Of course, the best system is the one I use most often - a wife who thinks
 it's kind of fun to get lifted up the mast.

 Jack Brennan
 Former CC 25
 Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
 Tierra Verde, Fl.



  *From:* David Knecht via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:54 PM
 *To:* Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com ; CnC CnC discussion list
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Cc:* Travis tra...@macksails.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

 Mack Sails has one I am thinking of getting.  It is shown in the
 installation video for their Mackpack (which I am getting). They don't
 advertise them, but I was told they do make them up and sell them for
 people.   You can see it in use about 4.5 minutes in to the video.  I am
 sure it would take me a lot longer to go up, but it looks easy to use.
 Still don't know the cost (are you listening, Travis?) Dave

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3RT3iajT-Elist=FLzBlwDs4NZ1W1NImTfRSC-w
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3RT3iajT-Elist=FLzBlwDs4NZ1W1NImTfRSC-w

  On Oct 16, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  Here's a couple of links to spring off of for ascender climbing.  The
 foot ascenders look promissing.

 A waste strap/line can also be passed around the mast and both ends
 attached to the harness (one end on a carabiner for fast passing of
 obstructions).  This is added safety to prevent accidentally twisting
 upside down and you slipping out of the harness or chair.  This is one
 reason I prefer a harness.

 https://www.google.com/search?q=ascender+climbingoq=ascender

 http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascender_(climbing)

 http://youtube.com/watch?v=2LK20hvHQyA

 http://www.rockandice.com/lates-news/ascender-safety-101

 Josh
 On Oct 16, 2014 7:58 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Listers,

 Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I'm starting my list of
 projects -- One of which is some mast work.

 Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if
 so, what did you use.

 There's an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so
 it's on my mind.

 And no, the transporter can't materialize me at the top of the mast.


 All the best,

 Edd


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 Starship Enterprise
 CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
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Re: Stus-List Ebola?

2014-10-16 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
You guys can't figure out how to clean up Butyl - there's no way your going to 
get your heads around the Ebola crisis!

sam :-)


On 2014-10-16, at 6:53 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Hi Josh,
 
 Agree.  But why did they separate the two infected nurses, the ones that care 
 for the ebola patient who died,  and send them to different hospitals for 
 care?  That doubles the number of people exposed.  Maybe it's for training 
 the hospital staff?
 
 
 Chuck
 Resolute
 1990 CC 34R
 Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
 
 From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 To: w...@wbryant.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:50:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola?
 
 Over the last 4 weeks I believe we are up to 6 total infected people 2 cured, 
 1 dead.  By comparison 6 people per DAY die from electrocution.  We need to 
 keep it in control but it is hardly a pandemic.  Oddly they are now choosing 
 to transport an infected patient from Texas to Bethesda, MD.  Seems like 
 maybe a questionable decision.
 
 Josh
 Solomons, MD
 
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Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

2014-10-16 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Fwiw ATN was not at the Annapolis boat show this year. Always had a booth
in the past.
I've seen the climber used. The rope must be tight for it to work well. I
let others do the climbing.

Joel

On Thursday, October 16, 2014, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Yeah Jack, ATN didn't do themselves any favors when then used the stretchy
 rope.  Too difficult to pull the rope tight enough.  If you get a chance to
 find some ascenders it would be easy to reuse everything you already have
 to make a top climber

 A 4:1 block and tackle means that you have to use your arms to pull down
 40-50lbs, 75 to 100 times.  Not particularly hard but slow and tiring.
 Using any ascender system relies on using you legs to simply squat your
 body weight 30 to 40 times.  Easier than climbing 4 flights of stairs.  I
 estimated 1-2 feet per pull or squat and a 50' mast.

 Josh
 On Oct 16, 2014 9:18 PM, Jack Brennan via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote:

   It’s worth wandering around the marina and testing a couple of systems
 before buying one.

 Everyone seems to have a different preference, depending on your fear of
 heights, taste for adventure, physical condition, etc.

 I inherited a Mast Mate and didn’t like the spongy feel of the ladder. I
 tried an ATN Mast Climber and didn’t like it much, either, probably because
 I wasn’t using a really taut, low-stretch line. Currently, I have a
 four-part system (two double blocks) with 200 feet of line that allows me
 to lift myself up if needed.

 Of course, the best system is the one I use most often – a wife who
 thinks it’s kind of fun to get lifted up the mast.

 Jack Brennan
 Former CC 25
 Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
 Tierra Verde, Fl.



  *From:* David Knecht via CnC-List
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');
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 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

 Mack Sails has one I am thinking of getting.  It is shown in the
 installation video for their Mackpack (which I am getting). They don’t
 advertise them, but I was told they do make them up and sell them for
 people.   You can see it in use about 4.5 minutes in to the video.  I am
 sure it would take me a lot longer to go up, but it looks easy to use.
 Still don’t know the cost (are you listening, Travis?) Dave

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3RT3iajT-Elist=FLzBlwDs4NZ1W1NImTfRSC-w
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3RT3iajT-Elist=FLzBlwDs4NZ1W1NImTfRSC-w

  On Oct 16, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote:

  Here's a couple of links to spring off of for ascender climbing.  The
 foot ascenders look promissing.

 A waste strap/line can also be passed around the mast and both ends
 attached to the harness (one end on a carabiner for fast passing of
 obstructions).  This is added safety to prevent accidentally twisting
 upside down and you slipping out of the harness or chair.  This is one
 reason I prefer a harness.

 https://www.google.com/search?q=ascender+climbingoq=ascender

 http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascender_(climbing)

 How to Use Ascenders http://youtube.com/watch?v=2LK20hvHQyA

 http://www.rockandice.com/lates-news/ascender-safety-101

 Josh
 On Oct 16, 2014 7:58 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote:

 Listers,

 Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I’m starting my list of
 projects -- One of which is some mast work.

 Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if
 so, what did you use.

 There’s an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so
 it’s on my mind.

 And no, the transporter can’t materialize me at the top of the mast.


 All the best,

 Edd


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Re: Stus-List Butyl

2014-10-16 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Goo Gone or similar.  Final clean with denatured alcohol.

BTW, denatured alcohol removes uncured, repeat uncured, 5200 well.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  But the question was what would remove butyl where it was not wanted.
 Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.why wouldn't they,
 they are petroleum based.

 But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your deck
 paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our deck
 paint, annually!

 So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl is
 removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone.

 What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ?

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.




 On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote:

 My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave residue
 that prevents proper sealing.

 --- Original Message ---

 From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM
 To: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com mike.h...@impgroup.com,
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Stus-List Butyl

  Mike:
 Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl.

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.

 Unstepped the mast yesterday.being hauled out any day now!




 On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:

  The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove it
 from where it was not wanted.  Old fittings being rebidded that had been
 using butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere on non skid and
 nearly impossible to remove.  Is there some sort of cleaner/solvent that
 rids us of that?



 Mike

 Still sailing in Nova Scotia on Persistence





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Re: Stus-List Ebola?

2014-10-16 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
I don't think we're immune to having a really serious problem. I'm hopeful
it doesn't come to that but I think there is some potential.

To set the mood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYSyuuLk5g

There are a lot of people flying into Toronto from all over the world,
every day. 8.8 million international passengers flew into Pearson so far
this year (that number does not include the more than 7 million Americans).
From the WHO website: *The incubation period, that is, the time interval
from infection with the virus to onset of symptoms is 2 to 21 days. Humans
are not infectious until they develop symptoms.*

Symptoms are flu like. It's flu season. Someone could get off a plane and
'get the flu' 2 weeks later and start showing symptoms at their workplace,
the subway, you name it. The nurses that got sick, they were taking every
precaution they could .. what chance does a person have on a crowded
subway?
http://mathbench.umd.edu/modules/popn-dynamics_exponential-growth/page15.htm

I don't think that's *going* to happen, I just think it's not out of the
realm of possibility, so it should be taken seriously.

I think Brent got it right though, CC forever!

Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 You guys can't figure out how to clean up Butyl - there's no way your
 going to get your heads around the Ebola crisis!

 sam :-)


 On 2014-10-16, at 6:53 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 Hi Josh,

 Agree.  But why did they separate the two infected nurses, the ones that
 care for the ebola patient who died,  and send them to different hospitals
 for care?  That doubles the number of people exposed.  Maybe it's for
 training the hospital staff?


 Chuck
 Resolute
 1990 CC 34R
 Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

 --
 *From: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *To: *w...@wbryant.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Sent: *Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:50:00 PM
 *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Ebola?

 Over the last 4 weeks I believe we are up to 6 total infected people 2
 cured, 1 dead.  By comparison 6 people per DAY die from electrocution.  We
 need to keep it in control but it is hardly a pandemic.  Oddly they are now
 choosing to transport an infected patient from Texas to Bethesda, MD.
 Seems like maybe a questionable decision.

 Josh
 Solomons, MD
 On Oct 16, 2014 7:36 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Is everybody up there okay?  I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola
 in the US and Canada.

 Wal

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Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

2014-10-16 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
I just made such an arrangement similar to what Josh described. Bought a 
left and right hand ascender, and put a toe loop on each. Used one 
halyard to pull up a line with a knot in the middle to the top of the 
mast, and tied off the lower end of each part, tightly, at the deck.  
Then put one ascender/toe loop on each part of the line.  Took a second 
halyard to a bosun's chair, with a short loop to a climbing harness as a 
safety.  Was then easy to use both hands and feet to pull up on the 
ascenders/foot loops, while my wife took the slack up on the chair 
halyard using a winch.  Then I could sit back on the chair while I slid 
the ascenders/toe loops higher on the two parts, and repeat.  The nice 
part was that coming down, I took the ascenders off and she just payed 
out the chair on the winch, and the really nice part was that I could 
get my head above the top of mast by standing on the toe loops.


One worthwhile addition was to put a small carabiner in each toe loop 
around the side lines, keeps the toe loops under the ascenders.


I'm going to try this weekend to climb without the chair, it would mean 
alternately lifting one side at a time, and will still want the second 
line a a safety/belay to the harness.


The price was about $70 each for the ascenders (new at REI), $60 for the 
harness and about $30 for the toe loops.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


On 10/16/2014 8:17 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:


The ATN top climmer has worked pretty well for me but I would not buy 
one.  The TC is simply two Gibbs ascenders attached custom bosun's 
chair and 60' or 70' of 1/2 rope.


They arrangement of the ascenders is such that the chair is attached 
to the top on and a foot strap is attached to the bottom one.  
Standing up on the foot straps allows you to raise the upper ascender 
which brings the chair tight to your butt.  Sit down in the chair and 
now you can bend your knees to raise the lower ascender.  You inchworm 
your way up the rope. The rope that was tied to the mast collar on 
deck and winched taught to the top of the mast.  One could safely use 
a halyard pull the rope tight.  Tight is key.  No stretch rope is also 
key.


I would look to MAKE a similar system but using rock climbing 
ascenders (gibbs or otherwise).  I would also use a rock climbing 
harness as a primary and maybe take a comfortable bosun's chair of 
choice to the top IF I was going to be there for more than 10 min.  
The ascenders cost $30-50.  Rope $50-70. Harness $50-100.  Gear can be 
found at EMS.com or instore.


Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 CC 37+
Solomons, MD

On Oct 16, 2014 7:58 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:


Listers,

Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I'm starting my list
of projects -- One of which is some mast work.

Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber,
and, if so, what did you use.

There's an article about it in the latest issue of Practical
Sailor, so it's on my mind.

And no, the transporter can't materialize me at the top of the mast.


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

2014-10-16 Thread coltrek via CnC-List
I had a lot of trouble with regular stay- set, then I took the line out to the 
shop, tied one end to a bollard,  the other to a fork lift and stretched it so 
tight I could walk on it for an afternoon.  Worked great after that. 


Bill

div Original message /divdivFrom: Joel Aronson via 
CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivDate:10/16/2014  10:19 PM  
(GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com, 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com /divdivSubject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? 
/divdiv
/divFwiw ATN was not at the Annapolis boat show this year. Always had a booth 
in the past. 
I've seen the climber used. The rope must be tight for it to work well. I let 
others do the climbing. 

Joel

On Thursday, October 16, 2014, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Yeah Jack, ATN didn't do themselves any favors when then used the stretchy 
rope.  Too difficult to pull the rope tight enough.  If you get a chance to 
find some ascenders it would be easy to reuse everything you already have to 
make a top climber

A 4:1 block and tackle means that you have to use your arms to pull down 
40-50lbs, 75 to 100 times.  Not particularly hard but slow and tiring.  Using 
any ascender system relies on using you legs to simply squat your body weight 
30 to 40 times.  Easier than climbing 4 flights of stairs.  I estimated 1-2 
feet per pull or squat and a 50' mast.

Josh

On Oct 16, 2014 9:18 PM, Jack Brennan via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:
It’s worth wandering around the marina and testing a couple of systems before 
buying one.
 
Everyone seems to have a different preference, depending on your fear of 
heights, taste for adventure, physical condition, etc.
 
I inherited a Mast Mate and didn’t like the spongy feel of the ladder. I tried 
an ATN Mast Climber and didn’t like it much, either, probably because I wasn’t 
using a really taut, low-stretch line. Currently, I have a four-part system 
(two double blocks) with 200 feet of line that allows me to lift myself up if 
needed.
 
Of course, the best system is the one I use most often – a wife who thinks it’s 
kind of fun to get lifted up the mast.
 
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Re: Stus-List Ebola?

2014-10-16 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/ebola-outbreak/

Boatless Yanni.

Take a look at this brief documentary from Frontline. A government
conspiracy? But I guess everything is...

Let's stick to butyl and CC fin keel conspiracies, which is perhaps,
comprehendible for everybody on the list as Sam suggested.

KD



Kevin Driscoll
Portland,  Oregon
503  //  875  //  3493

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I don't think we're immune to having a really serious problem. I'm hopeful
 it doesn't come to that but I think there is some potential.

 To set the mood:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYSyuuLk5g

 There are a lot of people flying into Toronto from all over the world,
 every day. 8.8 million international passengers flew into Pearson so far
 this year (that number does not include the more than 7 million Americans).
 From the WHO website: *The incubation period, that is, the time interval
 from infection with the virus to onset of symptoms is 2 to 21 days. Humans
 are not infectious until they develop symptoms.*

 Symptoms are flu like. It's flu season. Someone could get off a plane and
 'get the flu' 2 weeks later and start showing symptoms at their workplace,
 the subway, you name it. The nurses that got sick, they were taking every
 precaution they could .. what chance does a person have on a crowded
 subway?
 http://mathbench.umd.edu/modules/popn-dynamics_exponential-growth/page15.htm

 I don't think that's *going* to happen, I just think it's not out of the
 realm of possibility, so it should be taken seriously.

 I think Brent got it right though, CC forever!

 Steve
 Suhana, CC 32
 Toronto

 On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 You guys can't figure out how to clean up Butyl - there's no way your
 going to get your heads around the Ebola crisis!

 sam :-)


 On 2014-10-16, at 6:53 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 Hi Josh,

 Agree.  But why did they separate the two infected nurses, the ones that
 care for the ebola patient who died,  and send them to different hospitals
 for care?  That doubles the number of people exposed.  Maybe it's for
 training the hospital staff?


 Chuck
 Resolute
 1990 CC 34R
 Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

 --
 *From: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *To: *w...@wbryant.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 
 *Sent: *Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:50:00 PM
 *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Ebola?

 Over the last 4 weeks I believe we are up to 6 total infected people 2
 cured, 1 dead.  By comparison 6 people per DAY die from electrocution.  We
 need to keep it in control but it is hardly a pandemic.  Oddly they are now
 choosing to transport an infected patient from Texas to Bethesda, MD.
 Seems like maybe a questionable decision.

 Josh
 Solomons, MD
 On Oct 16, 2014 7:36 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Is everybody up there okay?  I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola
 in the US and Canada.

 Wal

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Re: Stus-List Butyl

2014-10-16 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
Interlux Special Thinner 216 dissolves butyl beautifully and leaves no
noticeable residue. I use it to prep many surfaces for painting or
caulking.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 16 October 2014 20:11, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 Goo Gone or similar.  Final clean with denatured alcohol.

 BTW, denatured alcohol removes uncured, repeat uncured, 5200 well.

 Dennis C.
 Touche' 35-1 #83
 Mandeville, LA

 On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  But the question was what would remove butyl where it was not
 wanted.  Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.why
 wouldn't they, they are petroleum based.

 But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your
 deck paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our deck
 paint, annually!

 So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl is
 removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone.

 What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ?

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.




 On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote:

 My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave residue
 that prevents proper sealing.

 --- Original Message ---

 From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM
 To: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com mike.h...@impgroup.com,
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Stus-List Butyl

  Mike:
 Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl.

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.

 Unstepped the mast yesterday.being hauled out any day now!




 On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:

  The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove it
 from where it was not wanted.  Old fittings being rebidded that had been
 using butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere on non skid and
 nearly impossible to remove.  Is there some sort of cleaner/solvent that
 rids us of that?



 Mike

 Still sailing in Nova Scotia on Persistence





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Stus-List Stus list sailing this weekend

2014-10-16 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
Thanks for all the advice on the sock and Tacker.For us in Ga it's sunny and mid -high 60's all weekend.  We have regattas both in Saturday and Sunday (It's just getting good here) the fall season racing series are revving-upWe're planning on going to an Airshow on Saturday and racing Sunday.   The late fall is excellent with typically mild temps and better winds than summer.  "Winterizing" here is making sure my little Caframo cabin heater is on duty as we close-up  the boat for the week when frost is expected.. While not quite as warm as Wal and the guys down in Lousianna, we keep-on sailing all year long.-Francois1990 34+ "Take Five"Lake Lanier, GaSent from IBM Notes Traveler
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