Stus-List C&C 39 in Toronto

[Martin "Mac" McKenzie via CnC-List]

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Does anyone know of a C&C 39 owner in the Toronto area? A fellow 39er is
looking for one to take some measurements on  up there- 

Thanks,


Bill Colelman

C&C 39
I know of a C&C 39 at Etobicoke Yacht Club. Not sure of year. What measurements 
are required? Martin 'Mac' McKenzieC&C 37 Worthy Pearl
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Re: Stus-List Baltic 39

[David Donnelly via CnC-List]

talina, one a
>> Hunter) who put C&C stars under the toe rail. Then there was a Taiwan
>> knock-off (I think they bought a boat and made a mold from the hull)
>> and I was pretty sure it was a C&C 40 knock-off but the owner assured
>> me it was 'just like a Swan only cheaper' and so I left him to his beer.
>>
>> It's good to see the original stars shine.
>>
>> Wal
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> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 00:32:31 + (UTC)
> From: Chuck S 
> To: Burt Stratton ,"CNC boat owners,
>cnc-list" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Draft
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> The picture shows your boat has the deeper keel. That's better for 
performance. Deeper, stiffer, lighter.

> Glad to hear the yard helped with the stands. They sound like good people.
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:24:59 PM
> Subject: Stus-List Draft
>
>
>
> I just got schooled by my boat (again). The specifications for my boat 
show it having a draft of 5?6?. (This is a 1974 C&C 33 ? tonner). I bought 
(used) jack stands for her winter stay in my back yard based on that. I 
just had her delivered and found out my stands are too short. I was able to 
recover gracefully from that little faux pas with the help of my yard who 
were willing to trade for the correct size. After the dust settled I did 
some measuring to find out where I went wrong. Having just been hauled she 
has a well-defined water line. I measured the actual draft and found it to 
be closer to 6? 6?. Is it possible that the keel was either extended or 
replaced by a PO? Do owners do such things? It is still a fin keel but I 
noticed it has a different shape than the shape shown on the C&C 
specifications document for the boat. The specifications are for a custom ? 
ton but could there have been optional keels available? I will attempt to 
attach a pic. There is real experience!

>  on this list and your thoughts are valuable.
>
>
>
> Here is a comparison of the silhouette from the specification drawing a 
sailboatdata and a pic of the actual boat.

>
>
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1jlbdmQzvxLanZwZUsxeE1PaE0/view?usp=sharing
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> Burt
>
> On the hard in Walpole, MA
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> From: Tim Goodyear 
> To: Joel Aronson ,"cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
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> I sailed on one in New York a couple of weeks ago (it was cold then, but
> I'm glad it wasn't this week).  In ~5-7 knots we were going upwind at 6 at
> a very tight angle.  The wind got up to 12, occasionally gusting 15 and we
> went back downwind hitting 12.5 knots (trying to heat it up, not soak).
> All very nice and calm, including a couple of broaches which were pretty
> slow and non-dramatic, and involved easing the spin / main and then
> trimming by hand.  It's a great boat to sail, but the admiral might
> complain about creature comforts...
>
> Tim
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Its good to see the boat is being well received.  They are taking orders
>> for #19. It is slightly less expensive than a Farr 28? and is designed for
>> more than around the buoy racing.
>>
>> It is supposed to be a one design in the Annapolis NOOD in the spring.
>> Maybe I can catch a ride?
>>
>> I have nothing against J Boats, but its nice to see a little competition
>> out there!
>>
>> Joel
>> 35/3
>> Annapolis
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
&

Re: Stus-List Annual sailing invite

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Bob, 
I think we met after the Boat Show? I just checked out and like your blog and 
I'm impressed. Very well done. 

As an HVACR mechanic, Facilities Superviser, and Project Manager for 40 plus 
years, I appreciate your engineering background. 
You guys dream it up. Someone else, a low bid contractor installs it, his way. 
And I have to live with the end users and actually make it all work. I consider 
myself a "Re-Engineer". 

Hope to get together and share more stories, a few beers or wine in the future 
when I check on my boat near Annapolis this winter? 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 12:08:10 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Annual sailing invite 

Can I come down for the entire winter? 

Bob 

Bob Boyer 
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 
1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230 
email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com 

"There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
messing about in boats." --Kenneth Grahame 

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Stus-List Baltic 39

[Maturo, John via CnC-List]

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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 00:32:31 + (UTC)
> From: Chuck S 
> To: Burt Stratton ,"CNC boat owners,
>cnc-list" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Draft
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> The picture shows your boat has the deeper keel. That's better for 
> performance. Deeper, stiffer, lighter. 
> Glad to hear the yard helped with the stands. They sound like good people. 
> 
> Chuck 
> Resolute 
> 1990 C&C 34R 
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:24:59 PM 
> Subject: Stus-List Draft 
> 
> 
> 
> I just got schooled by my boat (again). The specifications for my boat show 
> it having a draft of 5?6?. (This is a 1974 C&C 33 ? tonner). I bought (used) 
> jack stands for her winter stay in my back yard based on that. I just had her 
> delivered and found out my stands are too short. I was able to recover 
> gracefully from that little faux pas with the help of my yard who were 
> willing to trade for the correct size. After the dust settled I did some 
> measuring to find out where I went wrong. Having just been hauled she has a 
> well-defined water line. I measured the actual draft and found it to be 
> closer to 6? 6?. Is it possible that the keel was either extended or replaced 
> by a PO? Do owners do such things? It is still a fin keel but I noticed it 
> has a different shape than the shape shown on the C&C specifications document 
> for the boat. The specifications are for a custom ? ton but could there have 
> been optional keels available? I will attempt to attach a pic. There is real 
> experience!
>  on this list and your thoughts are valuable. 
> 
> 
> 
> Here is a comparison of the silhouette from the specification drawing a 
> sailboatdata and a pic of the actual boat. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1jlbdmQzvxLanZwZUsxeE1PaE0/view?usp=sharing 
> 
> 
> 
> Burt 
> 
> On the hard in Walpole, MA 
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> To: Joel Aronson ,"cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30
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> I sailed on one in New York a couple of weeks ago (it was cold then, but
> I'm glad it wasn't this week).  In ~5-7 knots we were going upwind at 6 at
> a very tight angle.  The wind got up to 12, occasionally gusting 15 and we
> went back downwind hitting 12.5 knots (trying to heat it up, not soak).
> All very nice and calm, including a couple of broaches which were pretty
> slow and non-dramatic, and involved easing the spin / main and then
> trimming by hand.  It's a great boat to sail, but the admiral might
> complain about creature comforts...
> 
> Tim
> 
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>> Its good to see the boat is being well received.  They are taking orders
>> for #19. It is slightly less expensive than a Farr 28? and is designed for
>> more than around the buoy racing.
>> 
>> It is supposed to be a one design in the Annapolis NOOD in the spring.
>> Maybe I can catch a ride?
>> 
>> I have nothing against J Boats, but its nice to see a little competition
>> out there!
>> 
>> Joel
>> 35/3
>> Annapolis
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30
>>> 
>>> "We don?t often have ties in our Best Boats competition, but with two
>>> very different and equally exciting boats in the 30ft-and-under performance
>>> category, we just couldn?t go with a single winner.
&g

Re: Stus-List 35-1 for sale

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

That boat has some interesting features. The lowers normally spread out fore
and aft, so the baby-stay and check stays must be compensating for that. The
baby-stay going through the middle of the V-berth kind of makes that boat a
tough sell to anyone wanting to sleep up there. The forward water tank
appears to be missing, as does the stove. 13 HP is a bit light in the HP
department too. This is going to be a tough sell for anyone not 100% a
racer.

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com  

Coquina

C&C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ &
Melody via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 3:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-1 for sale

 


Not so unusual for C&C in the early 80s to have babystay, checks & inline
shrouds on a masthead rig, bendy in the day. That mast looks like it might
be a Kenyon and is defiantly not the original extrusion that I have.

So this ol' girl is a mature CCA based design "updated" with mature IOR
go-fast thinking. I like her. 
If I win Lotto tonight then she might come to Canada's Wet Coast for a bit
o' fun PHRF racing.

BTW, do you think 1970 is correct?

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35-1 (1972)



At 11:36 AM 21/11/2014, you wrote:



When I look at picture #10, it looks like this boat has both back stays and
check stays, as well as a back stay.  Very unusual for a mast head rigged
boat.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


On 2014/11/21 2:03 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:



I think those are actually check stays rather than running backs based on
the angle.

I don't think I have ever seen a listing with so many pictures.  Some kind
of new record.  The boat looks good but the hatch behind mast seems
different and maybe too large?

Mike

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 ] On Behalf Of Neil Gallagher via
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Subject: Stus-List 35-1 for sale

http://www.boatquest.com/listing/134563/1970-35-ft-dot--c--c-35-mark-i.html#
.VG9t-PIo6po 

Some interesting features for a 35-1...inboard shrouds, running backs.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


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Stus-List C&C 39 in Toronto

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Does anyone know of a C&C 39 owner in the Toronto area? A fellow 39er is
looking for one to take some measurements on  up there- 

Thanks,

 

Bill Colelman

C&C 39

 

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Re: Stus-List 35-1 for sale

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Not so unusual for C&C in the early 80s to have babystay, checks & 
inline shrouds on a masthead rig, bendy in the day. That mast looks 
like it might be a Kenyon and is defiantly not the original extrusion 
that I have.


So this ol' girl is a mature CCA based design "updated" with mature 
IOR go-fast thinking. I like her.
If I win Lotto tonight then she might come to Canada's Wet Coast for 
a bit o' fun PHRF racing.


BTW, do you think 1970 is correct?

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35-1 (1972)



At 11:36 AM 21/11/2014, you wrote:
When I look at picture #10, it looks like this boat has both back 
stays and check stays, as well as a back stay.  Very unusual for a 
mast head rigged boat.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


On 2014/11/21 2:03 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:
I think those are actually check stays rather than running backs 
based on the angle.


I don't think I have ever seen a listing with so many 
pictures.  Some kind of new record.  The boat looks good but the 
hatch behind mast seems different and maybe too large?


Mike

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Neil Gallagher via CnC-List

Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 35-1 for sale

http://www.boatquest.com/listing/134563/1970-35-ft-dot--c--c-35-mark-i.html#.VG9t-PIo6po

Some interesting features for a 35-1...inboard shrouds, running backs.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


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Stus-List Annual sailing invite

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

 Same here.

 Anyone wants a sailing fix in the winter and happen to come to the Atlanta
 Ga area let me know in advance and I'll do my best to make it happen.

 As an example of winter sailing here:  I'm off all next week and going
 sailing Monday / Tuesday.  Cloudy Monday / sunny Tuesday with winds
 expected to be in the teens gusting to mid 20's temps in the high 50's -
 low 60's. We can expect that kind of weather all the way 'till the
 beginning of spring (Late Feb-early March).

 It can get a bit spotty from late November on but we typically get at
 least a couple Saturdays / Sundays per month where it's fine sailing
 weather all winter long.

 Stay warm :-)

 -Francois Rivard
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Re: Stus-List 35-1 for sale

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

When I look at picture #10, it looks like this boat has both back stays 
and check stays, as well as a back stay.  Very unusual for a mast head 
rigged boat.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


On 2014/11/21 2:03 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:

I think those are actually check stays rather than running backs based on the 
angle.

I don't think I have ever seen a listing with so many pictures.  Some kind of 
new record.  The boat looks good but the hatch behind mast seems different and 
maybe too large?

Mike

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Neil 
Gallagher via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 35-1 for sale

http://www.boatquest.com/listing/134563/1970-35-ft-dot--c--c-35-mark-i.html#.VG9t-PIo6po

Some interesting features for a 35-1...inboard shrouds, running backs.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


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Re: Stus-List 35-1 for sale

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

I'm pretty sure this boat also has a Brit Chance designed deep-fin keel, 
its PHRF base rating is 117 vs. 126 because of that.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY



On 11/21/2014 1:43 PM, Dennis C. wrote:
If indeed that is a 35-1, that is one tricked out 35-1!  Suspect it 
will sell quickly at that price.


Yeah, inline shrouds.

However, 61' air clearance?  126 beam?  42 LOA?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:



http://www.boatquest.com/listing/134563/1970-35-ft-dot--c--c-35-mark-i.html#.VG9t-PIo6po

Some interesting features for a 35-1...inboard shrouds, running backs.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


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Re: Stus-List 35-1 for sale

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

If indeed that is a 35-1, that is one tricked out 35-1!  Suspect it will
sell quickly at that price.

Yeah, inline shrouds.

However, 61' air clearance?  126 beam?  42 LOA?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> http://www.boatquest.com/listing/134563/1970-35-ft-dot-
> -c--c-35-mark-i.html#.VG9t-PIo6po
>
> Some interesting features for a 35-1...inboard shrouds, running backs.
>
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
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Re: Stus-List Annual sailing invite

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

How good are you at hanging sheetrock, painting, installing crown molding
and grouting tile?  :)

70F and sunny right now.  Will be leaving shortly to spend weekend on
Touche' in Pensacola.  66F tomorrow there.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Can I come down for the entire winter?
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Boyer
> S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
> 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
>
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Re: Stus-List 35-1 for sale

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

I think those are actually check stays rather than running backs based on the 
angle.  

I don't think I have ever seen a listing with so many pictures.  Some kind of 
new record.  The boat looks good but the hatch behind mast seems different and 
maybe too large?

Mike

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Neil 
Gallagher via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 35-1 for sale

http://www.boatquest.com/listing/134563/1970-35-ft-dot--c--c-35-mark-i.html#.VG9t-PIo6po

Some interesting features for a 35-1...inboard shrouds, running backs.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


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Stus-List 35-1 for sale

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

http://www.boatquest.com/listing/134563/1970-35-ft-dot--c--c-35-mark-i.html#.VG9t-PIo6po

Some interesting features for a 35-1...inboard shrouds, running backs.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


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Re: Stus-List Annual sailing invite

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Yeah, but you’ll need to bring Rainy Days with you…   :^)   Looks like you’re 
just about ready.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List  
wrote:

> Can I come down for the entire winter?  
> 
> Bob
> 
> Bob Boyer
> S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
> 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
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Stus-List Annual sailing invite

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

Can I come down for the entire winter?  

Bob

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
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Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Performance Monohull #2 (30 Ft & under)  Seascape 27

http://www.sailmagazine.com/bestboats2015#Seascape 27

Ken H.

On 20 November 2014 20:46, Chuck S via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Wow, 19 boats?  That's amazing.  What was the boat that tied with the C&C
> 30 for Best Boat?
>
>
> --
> *From: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> *To: *"Heaton, Ken" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent: *Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:43:10 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30
>
>
> Its good to see the boat is being well received.  They are taking orders
> for #19. It is slightly less expensive than a Farr 28​ and is designed for
> more than around the buoy racing.
>
> It is supposed to be a one design in the Annapolis NOOD in the spring.
> Maybe I can catch a ride?
>
> I have nothing against J Boats, but its nice to see a little competition
> out there!
>
> Joel
> 35/3
> Annapolis
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30
>>
>> "We don’t often have ties in our Best Boats competition, but with two
>> very different and equally exciting boats in the 30ft-and-under performance
>> category, we just couldn’t go with a single winner.
>>
>> The first of the two is the C&C 30. If you’ve been racing sailboats for a
>> while, you’re undoubtedly familiar with C&C Yachts, a racer-cruiser
>> manufacturer that produced plenty of winning boats in the 1970s and 1980s.
>> Now the company is back at the forefront of racing design with this Mark
>> Mills-conceived 30-footer, which C&C hopes to develop into a
>> high-performance, offshore-capable one-design class that’s both easy to
>> sail and affordable compared to other grand prix boats."
>>
>> Read More: http://www.sailmagazine.com/best-boats/best-boats-2015-cc-30
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
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Re: Stus-List Draft

[Burt Stratton via CnC-List]

That makes sense as this boat is supposed to be a modified 33-1. Same hull and 
sail plan but with a modified deck and interior layout. Maybe they also used 
different keels. From what I have been able to find, there were very few of the 
¾ ton customs made (maybe 3) and they were made in their custom shop, not as a 
production model.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 8:27 AM
To: Joel Aronson; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Draft

 

Burt

 

The keel on your boat looks much more modern than that in the specs.  That said 
“more modern” is more of a late 70’s very early 80svintage so is possible that 
it came that way I suppose.  The keel on the line drawing looks a lot more like 
a C&C 33-1

 

Mike

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:00 PM
To: Burt Stratton; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Draft

 

Burt,

 

The brochure for the later 33 shows 3 keels.  It is unlikely that someone 
modified the keel, but it is not unheard of.  Better chance that there were 
factory options.

 

Joel

 

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I just got schooled by my boat (again).  The specifications for my boat show it 
having a draft of 5’6”. (This is a 1974 C&C 33 ¾ tonner). I bought (used) jack 
stands for her winter stay in my back yard based on that. I just had her 
delivered and found out my stands are too short. I was able to recover 
gracefully from that little faux pas with the help of my yard who were willing 
to trade for the correct size. After the dust settled I did some measuring to 
find out where I went wrong. Having just been hauled she has a well-defined 
water line. I measured the actual draft and found it to be closer to 6’ 6”. Is 
it possible that the keel was either extended or replaced by a PO? Do owners do 
such things? It is still a fin keel but I noticed it has a different shape than 
the shape shown on the C&C specifications document for the boat. The 
specifications are for a custom ¾ ton but could there have been optional keels 
available? I will attempt to attach a pic. There is real experience on this 
list and your thoughts are valuable.

 

Here is a comparison of the silhouette from the specification drawing a 
sailboatdata and a pic of the actual boat.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1jlbdmQzvxLanZwZUsxeE1PaE0/view?usp=sharing

 

Burt

On the hard in Walpole, MA


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Re: Stus-List Draft

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Burt

The keel on your boat looks much more modern than that in the specs.  That said 
“more modern” is more of a late 70’s very early 80svintage so is possible that 
it came that way I suppose.  The keel on the line drawing looks a lot more like 
a C&C 33-1

Mike

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:00 PM
To: Burt Stratton; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Draft

Burt,

The brochure for the later 33 shows 3 keels.  It is unlikely that someone 
modified the keel, but it is not unheard of.  Better chance that there were 
factory options.

Joel

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I just got schooled by my boat (again).  The specifications for my boat show it 
having a draft of 5’6”. (This is a 1974 C&C 33 ¾ tonner). I bought (used) jack 
stands for her winter stay in my back yard based on that. I just had her 
delivered and found out my stands are too short. I was able to recover 
gracefully from that little faux pas with the help of my yard who were willing 
to trade for the correct size. After the dust settled I did some measuring to 
find out where I went wrong. Having just been hauled she has a well-defined 
water line. I measured the actual draft and found it to be closer to 6’ 6”. Is 
it possible that the keel was either extended or replaced by a PO? Do owners do 
such things? It is still a fin keel but I noticed it has a different shape than 
the shape shown on the C&C specifications document for the boat. The 
specifications are for a custom ¾ ton but could there have been optional keels 
available? I will attempt to attach a pic. There is real experience on this 
list and your thoughts are valuable.

Here is a comparison of the silhouette from the specification drawing a 
sailboatdata and a pic of the actual boat.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1jlbdmQzvxLanZwZUsxeE1PaE0/view?usp=sharing

Burt
On the hard in Walpole, MA

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