Re: Stus-List Universal Engine panel wiring- Problem Solved!

2015-08-20 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I traced the wire yesterday, and it does not look like there is a solenoid for 
the glow plugs.  I will have to think about adding one (perhaps when I remove 
the connector this winter).  Dave

On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:06 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

 Thanks for letting us know what you found.  I'm still curious to know if you 
 have a glo-plug solenoid.
 
 If you don't have, can't fine, can't wait for tefgel then silicone dielectric 
 grease (spark plug boot grease) can be found at any auto parts store and is a 
 good alternative.
 
 Josh Muckley
 S/V Sea Hawk 
 1989 CC 37+
 Solomons, MD
 
 On Aug 16, 2015 5:14 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 I wanted to report back on the latest on my engine panel.  I was able to get 
 the connector in the engine compartment apart today.  Two of the pins were 
 particularly black and all looked corroded.  I cleaned them all and put it 
 back together and remarkably, the engine started with both buttons held down. 
  So that high resistance junction seems to have been the source of the 
 problem.  It is such a rewarding feeling when all the work pays off and a 
 problem is solved.  Thanks for all the advice and suggestions!
 
 Now- what to do about the future- I am considering putting some electrically 
 conductive grease on the contacts before reassembling the connector.  I may 
 still butt connect all the wires this winter, but the grease seems like a 
 good option to retain good contact.  Dave
 
 
 
 Aries
 1990 CC 34+
 New London, CT
 
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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Russ Melody via CnC-List

Hi Ron,

I hope you don't have the Lite made fibreglass 
LPG cylinder. You can't get them refilled anymore.


http://phmsa.dot.gov/portal/site/PHMSA/menuitem.6f23687cf7b00b0f22e4c6962d9c8789/?vgnextoid=7c7384ae997be310VgnVCM10d2c97898RCRDvgnextchannel=d248724dd7d6c010VgnVCM1080e8a8c0RCRDvgnextfmt=print

http://www.passagemaker.com/articles/trawler-news/government-trawler-news/lite-composite-gas-tanks-recalled-company-insolvent/

Edd,
This link nicely explains date code and tank 
weight info. A quick check with a fish scale 
and you can start the cruise assured of having enough energy to make coffee :)

http://toponautic.blogspot.ca/2014/02/did-you-know-propane-tanks-do-expire.html

And note that Canadians get a raw deal. Our tanks 
need to be re-certified after 10 years.


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1

At 09:19 AM 20/08/2015, you wrote:

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Edd,

Mine is propane and can be refilled for most 
anywhere.  If your tank is more than about 12 
years old, it may not be able to be refilled 
without being tested.  That’s not worth the 
money.  Also, the tank, if it is really old, 
may not have an overfill preventer in which case it cannot be refilled.


My tank had to be replaced when I bought the 
boat in 2010.  I got a fiberglass tank which is 
great.  No corrosion and you can see the level 
in the tank if you look carefully.Â


Regards,
Ron
Ron Ricci
S/V Patriot
CC 37+
Bristol, RI
mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.comron.ri...@1968.usna.com

Â

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Subject: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

Listers,

I think this was covered in the past, but I'm 
getting older and I forgot the answer.


In my 37+, I have a tank labelled LPG for my 
stove. I need to get it refilled.


Is this propane? The same propane used for bbq 
grills? Or is LPG something a little different?



All the best,

Edd

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Re: Stus-List Raw water intake fouling A4

2015-08-20 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
External strainers are rare on sailboats because of drag.

I have no strainer inside or out. I rarely have issues, but one a FISH made it 
all the way to the water pump and got stuck there.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

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Coquina

CC 35 MK I

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Raw water intake fouling A4

 

If an external strainer then make sure it’s one that hinges open so it can be 
cleaned out ... either with a dive or during haul-out. 

 

Without an external strainer and a straight-run from internal strainer to 
seacock you can rod-out the intake if needed.

 

I upgraded our raw water intake from 1/2 to 3/4 inch when I redid through-hulls 
last year. I didn’t install the external strainer since the old intake didn’t 
have one and I figured if I had problems it wouldn’t be hard to install during 
the next haul-out. 

 

We have a Vetus strainer.

 

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27 MkIII

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Raw water intake fouling A4

 

Hi Rob

 

Good to see you the other day in Noank.  We have the Yanmar 3GM with Sendur 
fresh water conversion.  Raw water inlet is ½ inch opening with no strainer 
using proper barrel type seacock, straight hose connection to a screw on 
plastic strainer then hose to engine.  The strainer is forward of the engine 
with clear plastic barrel so easy to see each time we move the stairs.  I make 
it a habit to unscrew and clean every few weeks as it does catch eel grass and 
gets crudded up.   I also listen for healthy water flow from the exhaust every 
time I start the engine.  No problems for 16 years now

 

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 CC 34

Noank, CT

 

 

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Subject: Stus-List Raw water intake fouling A4

 

I went from a 30-1 with an A-4 to a 30-2 with a Yanmar 2gm20F.

 

My AF had no 90 elbow from the seacock.  No internal strainer, just the little 
colander screwed to the outside of the hull.

 

My Yanmar has the 90 degree elbow, internal strainer, no pasta strainer on the 
outside.

 

Well, last week I started motoring and the Temp alarm went off.  I shut it down 
and checked the internal strainer and it was clean enough.  Started the engine, 
no temp alarm but I could see straight away no water coming through the exhaust.

 

Pulled off the hose and opened the seacock...barely a dribble.

 

Pulled off the elbow and I could see seaweed jammed up in there.  The top of 
the 90 deg. elbow has a threaded plug so I removed that.  Still had a job 
getting the jammed up weed out with needle nose and a screwdriver.

 

Thinking of putting an external strainer on the intake this winter

Good idea or NOT so good?

 

Rob

CC 30 MKII

Hanuman

Noank, CT

 

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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
my LPG tank is 18” and you might squeeze another .25” but not a .5”

Rick
Paikea 37+
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Edd
 
 I just got back from 3 weeks out.  But I eft my glasses on board.  So, I'll 
 be on board later today...I check it out for you then...maybe get a picture 
 too.
 
 Tom B
 
 At 11:06 AM 8/20/2015, you wrote:
 Message: 8
 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:03:50 -0400
 From: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com mailto:e...@schillay.com
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+
 Message-ID: 78dac694-456e-498d-bb46-b2ec98133...@schillay.com 
 mailto:78dac694-456e-498d-bb46-b2ec98133...@schillay.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 Tom,
 
 Do you know which one you bought? The link you sent is for one with is 
 18.25 tall, and the one it?s replacing is 17? tall ? and while there was a 
 little room, I?m not sure it?s 18.25? of room there, 
 
 Anyone near their CC 37+ that can measure the interior max height of the 
 propane locker?? 
  
 
 All the best,
 
 Edd
 
 
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 Starship Enterprise
 CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
 City Island, NY 
 Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log  http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ 
 http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/
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 SV Alera
 1990 CC 37+/40
 Vashon Island WA
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Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

2015-08-20 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
it appears to have the same state registration number as the yacht salvage
boat.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY
CC 39TM

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cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 He does provide his phone number and urges people to come inspect the boat.

 Steve Sharkey
 1983 CC 37
 Impromptu

 *From:* S Thomas via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:32 PM
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Cc:* S Thomas sthom...@bellnet.ca
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

 The seller is clearly being dishonest.
 Depending on the quality of the work done, it might be a good deal, but
 saying that it only has SOME LIGHT WEAR FROM REGULAR SAILING is
 deliberately misleading.
 Ebay was much better and safer for purchasers, when bidders were allowed
 to communicate with each other.
 The way they run it now facilitates crooks.

 Steve Thomas
 CC27 MKIII
 Port Stanley, ON

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 *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2015 15:50
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

 Seems cheap?

 Harry
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I just saw this.  the price is rediculous.


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045

 but as I was researching the boat i found this.

 http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos
 it has to be the same boat.  I think someone bought the salvaged boat,
 fixed it up and is flipping it.

 not that that is necessarily a bad thing...  it just needs a really good
 survey...

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Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Listers,

I think this was covered in the past, but I'm getting older and I forgot the 
answer. 

In my 37+, I have a tank labelled LPG for my stove. I need to get it refilled. 

Is this propane? The same propane used for bbq grills? Or is LPG something a 
little different? 


All the best,

Edd

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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Yep, propane.  Liquefied Propane Gas to be exact.  A grill tank should cost
about $10-12 to get filled.  From empty.  Try to find a place that will
only charge you for the amount you buy by weight.  Some places just charge
a flat fee regardless of how much was left in your tank before filling.  My
local ACE Hardware has good prices and only charges for what it took to
fill me up.  I think the standard grill tanks are 20# and the little green
ones for your lanters are 1#.  A lot of the aluminum marine grade tanks are
about half that.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 CC 37+
Solomons, MD
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 Listers,

 I think this was covered in the past, but I'm getting older and I forgot
 the answer.

 In my 37+, I have a tank labelled LPG for my stove. I need to get it
 refilled.

 Is this propane? The same propane used for bbq grills? Or is LPG something
 a little different?


 All the best,

 Edd

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Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

2015-08-20 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
But has a number of qualifiers, and does not show (or mention of course)
the pulverized hull to deck joint and toe rail on the starboard side, nor
the pulpit, etc. His terms would make it very difficult, if not impossible
to arrange for a haul/inspection if you were the winning bidder. Even if he
got the boat for free it would take probably 10k to responsibly fix the
damage. Rudder post anyone? Three photos, really? The whole bit about
leaving town for Colorado for his kids school etc is his problem (if true),
not the bidders. Is it not a salvage title? He lists as clean title.
Guess that means something different to someone on ebay than honest buyers.

 I would report the sale as a scam if I could. This guy is a scum bag.

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:12 PM Steve Sharkey via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 He does provide his phone number and urges people to come inspect the boat.

 Steve Sharkey
 1983 CC 37
 Impromptu

 *From:* S Thomas via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:32 PM
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Cc:* S Thomas sthom...@bellnet.ca
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
 The seller is clearly being dishonest.
 Depending on the quality of the work done, it might be a good deal, but
 saying that it only has SOME LIGHT WEAR FROM REGULAR SAILING is
 deliberately misleading.
 Ebay was much better and safer for purchasers, when bidders were allowed
 to communicate with each other.
 The way they run it now facilitates crooks.

 Steve Thomas
 CC27 MKIII
 Port Stanley, ON

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 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Cc:* Harry Hallgring hhallgr...@icloud.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2015 15:50
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

 Seems cheap?

 Harry
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I just saw this.  the price is rediculous.


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045

 but as I was researching the boat i found this.

 http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos
 it has to be the same boat.  I think someone bought the salvaged boat,
 fixed it up and is flipping it.

 not that that is necessarily a bad thing...  it just needs a really good
 survey...

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Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera

2015-08-20 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Congrats - lots of luck. new sails are always fun.  Tape drive is nice stuff.

How do you like the Schaefer boom?  I’ve used the forespar variant but never 
had an opportunity to play with the Schaefer.

John

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Listers
 
 I know I should have asked you all before taking action and I am certain that 
 someone out there will have a better solution...that said, I am pleased to 
 announce that I pulled the trigger on new sails for Alera.  The PO installed 
 a Schaefer In Boom furler but went cheap on the mylar sails to go with it.  
 They were ~15 years old and both sails have been in for repairs every year 
 for the past two years. The main was actually not made correctly to the 
 stringent Schaefer specs and the Genoa was to the point of disintegration 
 along the leech.  Aout four days into our annual three week sailing trip, the 
 leech detached from the Genoa (again).
 
 We called ahead and pulled into the Van Isle marina in Sidney BC and right up 
 to the dock at UK sail loft to get the genny repaired.  They fixed it and 
 even gave us an overnight berth with power and everything.  I met Suart 
 Dahlgren, the owner. He had been the tech talk presenter at the CC RDV a few 
 years ago and was familiar with the boat.   He is also very knowledgeable.  
 What started as a discussion about possibly getting a new Genoa ultimately 
 turned into deal for both primary sails.
 
 The Mainsail was never done right and at its end of life.  Of course, the 
 cost was a huge impediment to doing it.  But Stu gave a sweet 15% discount of 
 each sail and an additional 5% for getting both...but the real clincher was 
 the 0.75 USD to CAD exchange rate, which amounted to an additional 25%.  Lynn 
 and I talked it over, slept on it and were unanimous on going for it! :D
 
 Since I need thin sails to fit the boom when furled we went to a set of UK 
 Tape-Drive Cruising sales.  They're due for delivery in October.  I'll let 
 you all know if they are as good as I hope.
 
 Tom B
 Tom Buscaglia
 SV Alera
 1990 CC 37+/40
 Vashon Island WA
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Re: Stus-List Universal Engine panel wiring- Problem Solved!

2015-08-20 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Chuck,

Extension cords strung through a house work but usually are not
recommended as a permanent power solution.  Points and distributer work
but most people except that electronic ignition is a worthy improvement.
As Maine Sailor suggests, not having the solenoid is a weak design and
exacerbates the weak design of the connectors.

http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/universal_wiring_harness_upgrade

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 CC 37+
Solomons, MD
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 Why add a solenoid and complication?.  The original design worked all
 these years.   The harness quick connects are the problem.  Bypass those
 and you will never miss them.

 Chuck
 Resolute
 1990 CC 34R
 Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

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 *Sent: *Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:02:38 PM
 *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Universal Engine panel wiring- Problem Solved!

 I traced the wire yesterday, and it does not look like there is a solenoid
 for the glow plugs.  I will have to think about adding one (perhaps when I
 remove the connector this winter).  Dave

 On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:06 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Thanks for letting us know what you found.  I'm still curious to know if
 you have a glo-plug solenoid.

 If you don't have, can't fine, can't wait for tefgel then silicone
 dielectric grease (spark plug boot grease) can be found at any auto parts
 store and is a good alternative.

 Josh Muckley
 S/V Sea Hawk
 1989 CC 37+
 Solomons, MD
 On Aug 16, 2015 5:14 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I wanted to report back on the latest on my engine panel.  I was able to
 get the connector in the engine compartment apart today.  Two of the pins
 were particularly black and all looked corroded.  I cleaned them all and
 put it back together and remarkably, the engine started with both buttons
 held down.  So that high resistance junction seems to have been the source
 of the problem.  It is such a rewarding feeling when all the work pays off
 and a problem is solved.  Thanks for all the advice and suggestions!

 Now- what to do about the future- I am considering putting some
 electrically conductive grease on the contacts before reassembling the
 connector.  I may still butt connect all the wires this winter, but the
 grease seems like a good option to retain good contact.  Dave



 Aries
 1990 CC 34+
 New London, CT

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Stus-List New Sails for Alera

2015-08-20 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List

John

Aside from the ongoing problems with the incorrectly constructed 
mainsail, it's very nice.  We are cruisers and pretty much only go 
out with two on board, myself and my wife Lynn.  She is not yet 
comfortable at the helm (I'm working on that).  So, the in boom 
furling and accompanying electric winch saves her a lot of problems 
and keeps her in the cockpit. .  The PO left a lot of weird stuff, 
but the boom and winch were not among them.


The down sides are a rigid vang, and no out haul, both of which limit 
the amount of mainsail tuning.  But there are ways that I am learning 
but using the baby stay and the combination of the halyard and 
furler...it's a learning process at this point.  It sure does furl 
easy!  Just crank it down to any batten and you're done!


I am really looking forward to the new main to see what a difference 
that makes.  These are the first new sails I have ever had...so, I am 
for sure stoked!


Tom B

At 04:01 PM 8/20/2015, you wrote:

Message: 11
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:01:17 -0400
From: John Pennie j...@svpaws.net
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera
Message-ID: 015af41c-84f7-42a5-8899-e54feee27...@svpaws.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Congrats - lots of luck. new sails are always fun.  Tape drive is nice stuff.

How do you like the Schaefer boom?  I?ve used the forespar variant 
but never had an opportunity to play with the Schaefer.


John

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:


Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
1990 CC 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com
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Stus-List New Sails for Alera

2015-08-20 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List

Listers

I know I should have asked you all before taking action and I am 
certain that someone out there will have a better solution...that 
said, I am pleased to announce that I pulled the trigger on new sails 
for Alera.  The PO installed a Schaefer In Boom furler but went cheap 
on the mylar sails to go with it.  They were ~15 years old and both 
sails have been in for repairs every year for the past two years. The 
main was actually not made correctly to the stringent Schaefer specs 
and the Genoa was to the point of disintegration along the 
leech.  Aout four days into our annual three week sailing trip, the 
leech detached from the Genoa (again).


We called ahead and pulled into the Van Isle marina in Sidney BC and 
right up to the dock at UK sail loft to get the genny repaired.  They 
fixed it and even gave us an overnight berth with power and 
everything.  I met Suart Dahlgren, the owner. He had been the tech 
talk presenter at the CC RDV a few years ago and was familiar with 
the boat.   He is also very knowledgeable.  What started as a 
discussion about possibly getting a new Genoa ultimately turned into 
deal for both primary sails.


The Mainsail was never done right and at its end of life.  Of course, 
the cost was a huge impediment to doing it.  But Stu gave a sweet 15% 
discount of each sail and an additional 5% for getting both...but the 
real clincher was the 0.75 USD to CAD exchange rate, which amounted 
to an additional 25%.  Lynn and I talked it over, slept on it and 
were unanimous on going for it! :D


Since I need thin sails to fit the boom when furled we went to a set 
of UK Tape-Drive Cruising sales.  They're due for delivery in 
October.  I'll let you all know if they are as good as I hope.


Tom B

Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
1990 CC 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com
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Re: Stus-List Subject: Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

2015-08-20 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I get my LED's from marinebeam.com.  My impression is they are superior to
Dr. LED.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I installed LED's all around on my boat and had no issues with the running
 lights or anchor light.
 The 3 color tricolor from Dr. LED was another story. It produced noise on
 the VHR radio (antenna is no more than 1 foot from the tricolor) making VHF
 unusable with the tricolor on.. I tried a variety of RF chokes on it but it
 did not improve so I went back to an incandescent bulb.
 The issue was clearly with the 3 color LED bulb as we have no issue with
 the LED white anchor bulb which is mounted in the same housing as the
 tri-color.

 Jon
 CC 44
 Mor' Childs Play
 Kingston


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Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

2015-08-20 Thread Steve Sharkey via CnC-List
He does provide his phone number and urges people to come inspect the boat.

Steve Sharkey
1983 CC 37
Impromptu

From: S Thomas via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: S Thomas 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

The seller is clearly being dishonest. 
Depending on the quality of the work done, it might be a good deal, but saying 
that it only has SOME LIGHT WEAR FROM REGULAR SAILING is deliberately 
misleading. 
Ebay was much better and safer for purchasers, when bidders were allowed to 
communicate with each other. 
The way they run it now facilitates crooks. 

Steve Thomas
CC27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON
  - Original Message - 
  From: Harry Hallgring via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Harry Hallgring 
  Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 15:50
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

  Seems cheap?

  Harry 
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:


I just saw this.  the price is rediculous.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045

but as I was researching the boat i found this.

http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos
it has to be the same boat.  I think someone bought the salvaged boat, 
fixed it up and is flipping it.

not that that is necessarily a bad thing...  it just needs a really good 
survey...
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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List

Edd

LPG = Liquid Propane Gas.  We use ours daily for coffee when we are 
out.  Fill it every other year or so whether it needs it or not.


You need to  carefully check the height dimension, but I replaced my 
steel tank with one of these fiberglass ones similar to the one 
linked here.  Fits nice and you can pull it out and actually see how 
much is left through the translucent sides.  Lighter too.


http://www.amazon.com/Viking-Cylinders-17-Composite-Tank/dp/B00LOP7FS0/ref=lp_10527139011_1_1?srs=10527139011ie=UTF8qid=1440090955sr=8-1

Tom B



Message: 6
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 12:33:11 -0400
From: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com
To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: ron.ri...@1968.usna.com ron.ri...@1968.usna.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+
Message-ID: 1411f2a7-ddc6-4c0b-a85d-3b6919dc0...@schillay.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I have never refilled it ? and I?ve owned the boat for 10 years now. 
It has the triangular knob and I can?t see a manufacture date, but I 
would imagine it?s original to the boat.


I?ll try getting it filled and, if that fails, I?ll buy a new one at 
Defender. We are going to the CC Rendezvous next month and 
extending it to a 7-day cruise.


I just didn?t want to run out. If my wife can?t have her coffee, 
she?ll jump ship.



All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/


 On Aug 20, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Ron Ricci rvri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Edd,

 Mine is propane and can be refilled for most anywhere.  If your 
tank is more than about 12 years old, it may not be able to be 
refilled without being tested.  That?s not worth the money.  Also, 
the tank, if it is really old, may not have an overfill preventer 
in which case it cannot be refilled.


 My tank had to be replaced when I bought the boat in 2010.  I got 
a fiberglass tank which is great.  No corrosion and you can see the 
level in the tank if you look carefully.


 Regards,
 Ron
 Ron Ricci
 S/V Patriot
 CC 37+
 Bristol, RI
 ron.ri...@1968.usna.com mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com

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SV Alera
1990 CC 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com
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Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

2015-08-20 Thread Alex Giannelia via CnC-List
Rick, likewise, did you get a red green white LED, or are you simply using a 
white light to replace the incandescent?

Thanks,


Alex Giannelia
a...@airsensing.com
(416) 203-9858

From: Rick Rohwer [mailto:rickroh...@gmail.com]
Sent: August-20-15 12:53 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: svpegasu...@gmail.com; Alex Giannelia
Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

I have the bulbs and replacement lenz ready to change but can’t find a monkey 
for the mast work.  Several pole climbing ladies have offered and then backed 
out.  I’ll get up there eventually.

Rick
Paikea 37+
On Aug 20, 2015, at 9:44 AM, 
svpegasu...@gmail.commailto:svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

Alex,
On Pegasus I installed led bulbs in my mast head tri light. I got them from 
Superbrightled.comhttp://superbrightled.com/ or something like that several 
years ago. They have been working great. Using 0.4-.5 amps for the anchor light.

Doug Mountjoy
svPegasus
LF38
just west of Ballard, WA.


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Date: Thu, Aug 20, 2015 09:13
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Cc: Alex Giannelia;
Subject:Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

So,

I recently installed a PERKO masthead tri-light and want to know if one can 
insert a replacement LED trilight.  I understand that with the narrow spectrum 
range of some LED’s, I might not be able to insert a replacement white light 
LED but would need some kind of tri-light bulb.

What have others done for their masthead tri-lights?

Thanks,


Alex Giannelia
a...@airsensing.commailto:a...@airsensing.com
(416) 203-9858tel:(416)%20203-9858

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Re: Stus-List Propane tanks

2015-08-20 Thread LKL via CnC-List
I recently learned that to make an older tank legal,  just write “torch” on the 
outside of the tank and it then becomes for agricultural use and thus legal to 
fill.

Lloyd Lippe
Finesse
Landfall 39


 

 




From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: cenel...@aol.com 
Subject: Stus-List Propane tanks

If anyone has older aluminum tanks, a newer, legal fitting can also be welded 
on the old tank--I think I paid $20 to have a proper valve
welded on my aluminum tank a few years ago.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
CC 36 XL/kcb

cenel...@aol.com




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Stus-List LED's for TRILIGHT?

2015-08-20 Thread Alex Giannelia via CnC-List
So, if I understood correctly,

You actually found a tri-light LED bulb somewhere but it was too noisy for your 
VHF radio, correct?

I searched one LED supplier on line and he says he has no tri-colour bulb and 
that his white bulb won't transmit through the green lens properly

The search continues.

Alexander M. Giannelia
President

the airborne sensing corporation
555 Richmond Street West, Suite 912, PO Box 1008, Toronto, Ontario M5V 3B1, 
Canada

Phone(416) 203-9858
Mobile(416) 529-0070
Fax  (416) 203-9843

*Notre site web est aussi disponible en français! 
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Re: Stus-List Propane tanks

2015-08-20 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
That's a great price!

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230
email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
messing about in boats.  --Kenneth Grahame

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Alan Bergen via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 Check the ones at Amazon
   
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FPZABU?refRID=J3TMFXAD6Y5SB8DNH481ref_=pd_ys_c_rfy_rp_1
 
 Same as what West Marine sells, but lots cheaper.
 
 Alan Bergen
 35 Mk III Thirsty
 Rose City YC
 Portland, OR
 
 If anyone has older aluminum tanks, a newer, legal fitting can also be welded 
 on the old tank--I think I paid $20 to have a proper valve
 welded on my aluminum tank a few years ago.
  
 Charlie Nelson
 Water Phantom
 CC 36 XL/kcb
  
 cenel...@aol.com
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Stus-List Subject: Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

2015-08-20 Thread Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List
I installed LED's all around on my boat and had no issues with the running
lights or anchor light.
The 3 color tricolor from Dr. LED was another story. It produced noise on
the VHR radio (antenna is no more than 1 foot from the tricolor) making VHF
unusable with the tricolor on.. I tried a variety of RF chokes on it but it
did not improve so I went back to an incandescent bulb.
The issue was clearly with the 3 color LED bulb as we have no issue with
the LED white anchor bulb which is mounted in the same housing as the
tri-color.

Jon
CC 44
Mor' Childs Play
Kingston
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Stus-List Subject: Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

2015-08-20 Thread Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List
The Dr. LED 3 color tricolor bulb had the RF noise problem. I never tried a
white LED in the tricolor and suspect that it would be fine as the white
anchor LED worked fine. At the time I researched my problem with the 3
color light I was not alone with the LED interfering with the VHF. It may
be in the last 5 years that they have solved the noise problem.

CC 44
Mor' Childs Play
Kingston
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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List


I bought a fiberglass tank to replace a steel tank that was rusting. Two years 
later, the fiberglass tank was recalled. The company went out of business, and 
I was out the cost of the tank. I ended up buying an aluminum tank from Amazon. 
You might want to check to see whether your fiberglass tank was one that was 
recalled. 





Alan Bergen 


35 Mk III Thirsty 


Rose City YC 


Portland, OR 








Edd, 



Mine is propane and can be refilled for most anywhere. If your tank is more 
than about 12 years old, it may not be able to be refilled without being 
tested. That’s not worth the money. Also, the tank, if it is really old, may 
not have an overfill preventer in which case it cannot be refilled. 



My tank had to be replaced when I bought the boat in 2010. I got a fiberglass 
tank which is great. No corrosion and you can see the level in the tank if you 
look carefully. 



Regards, 

Ron 

Ron Ricci 

S/V Patriot 

CC 37+ 

Bristol, RI 

ron.ri...@1968.usna.com 








From: Edd Schillay [mailto:e...@schillay.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:09 AM 
To: cnc-list Cnc-List 
Subject: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+ 





Listers, 





I think this was covered in the past, but I'm getting older and I forgot the 
answer. 





In my 37+, I have a tank labelled LPG for my stove. I need to get it refilled. 





Is this propane? The same propane used for bbq grills? Or is LPG something a 
little different? 








All the best, 





Edd 





--- 


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Starship Enterprise 


NCC-1701-B 


CC 37+ | City Island, NY 


www.StarshipSailing.com 


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Stus-List Propane tanks

2015-08-20 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Check the ones at Amazon 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FPZABU?refRID=J3TMFXAD6Y5SB8DNH481ref_=pd_ys_c_rfy_rp_1
 

Same as what West Marine sells, but lots cheaper. 

Alan Bergen 
35 Mk III Thirsty 
Rose City YC 
Portland, OR 

If anyone has older aluminum tanks, a newer, legal fitting can also be welded 
on the old tank--I think I paid $20 to have a proper valve 
welded on my aluminum tank a few years ago. 
Charlie Nelson 
Water Phantom 
CC 36 XL/kcb 
cenel...@aol.com 
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Re: Stus-List Propane tanks

2015-08-20 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
The OPD fitting is simply a new valve that is screwed into the tank, replacing 
the original valve.  There is no welding involved in installing a new OPD 
valve.  The certification dates are stamped (or engraved) onto the collar of 
the tank--there is no magic to this.   While I am not advocating this, anyone 
could put a new date on the collar of the tank and it wouldn't be questioned.

Again, if you have a carbon steel tank and it is out of date, throw it away and 
get a new tank--they are not worth messing with.  Also, any person who might 
fill your steel tank could refuse to fill it on the basis of rust, regardless 
of the last certification date.

Bob

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230
email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
messing about in boats.  --Kenneth Grahame

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 2:25 PM, LKL via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 I recently learned that to make an older tank legal,  just write “torch” on 
 the outside of the tank and it then becomes for agricultural use and thus 
 legal to fill.
  
 Lloyd Lippe
 Finesse
 Landfall 39
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
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 Subject: Stus-List Propane tanks
  
 If anyone has older aluminum tanks, a newer, legal fitting can also be welded 
 on the old tank--I think I paid $20 to have a proper valve
 welded on my aluminum tank a few years ago.
  
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Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

2015-08-20 Thread Alex Giannelia via CnC-List
Thanks for that info, so did you simply use a white LED for the trilight, or 
did they sell a trilight red green white LED?

Thanks,


Alex Giannelia
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Alex,

On Pegasus I installed led bulbs in my mast head tri light. I got them from 
Superbrightled.comhttp://Superbrightled.com or something like that several 
years ago. They have been working great. Using 0.4-.5 amps for the anchor light.



Doug Mountjoy

svPegasus

LF38

just west of Ballard, WA.





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Subject:Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?


So,

I recently installed a PERKO masthead tri-light and want to know if one can 
insert a replacement LED trilight.  I understand that with the narrow spectrum 
range of some LED’s, I might not be able to insert a replacement white light 
LED but would need some kind of tri-light bulb.

What have others done for their masthead tri-lights?

Thanks,


Alex Giannelia
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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List

Edd

I just got back from 3 weeks out.  But I eft my glasses on 
board.  So, I'll be on board later today...I check it out for you 
then...maybe get a picture too.


Tom B

At 11:06 AM 8/20/2015, you wrote:

Message: 8
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:03:50 -0400
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+
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Tom,

Do you know which one you bought? The link you sent is for one with 
is 18.25 tall, and the one it?s replacing is 17? tall ? and while 
there was a little room, I?m not sure it?s 18.25? of room there,


Anyone near their CC 37+ that can measure the interior max height 
of the propane locker??



All the best,

Edd


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CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/


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Re: Stus-List Off topic-Newport boat show 2015

2015-08-20 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
I have stayed several times at the Best Western in West Greenwich but only in 
May.  The drive from there isn't bad over the Jamestown bridges - from memory 
+/- 35 minutes - but don't hold me to that

I presume there are parking lots for the boat show with shuttle buses. 

--
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SOUTHPORT CT

 On Aug 19, 2015, at 21:47, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Hi all, I'm throwing a line here and I'm looking for local knowledge of the 
 Newport area.
 
 Me and my girlfriend are looking to go at the Newport boat show and are 
 looking for accommodation. We are open to camping (tent) but is it a good 
 idea? We found the Melville pounds campground in Porthsmouth. Will the drive 
 be like really bad? Any comments please.
 
 airbnb has some closer options but nothing under 150$ a night for a room in 
 an apartment closer to the show... Higher price but maybe it's the way to go 
 to enjoy our stay?
 
 Thanks for your help local cncciers
 
 Bruno Lachance
 87 cc 33 mkII
 Bécassine
 new Richmond, Qc
 
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Re: Stus-List Off topic-Newport boat show 2015

2015-08-20 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Personally,  I soul be closer to town. Npt. HaS lotsa more to offers than just 
the show.

Andy

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:03, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 There  is a parking lot for  the show and shuttle from the parking lot in 
 Newport at the beach just past the  show. If I remember correctly it is $15 
 for the day including shuttle.
 
 John
 Arpeggio 32
 Norwalk. CT 
 
 
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 I have stayed several times at the Best Western in West Greenwich but only in 
 May.  The drive from there isn't bad over the Jamestown bridges - from memory 
 +/- 35 minutes - but don't hold me to that
 
 I presume there are parking lots for the boat show with shuttle buses. 
 
 --
 Jonathan
 Indigo CC 35III
 SOUTHPORT CT
 
 On Aug 19, 2015, at 21:47, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Hi all, I'm throwing a line here and I'm looking for local knowledge of the 
 Newport area.
 
 Me and my girlfriend are looking to go at the Newport boat show and are 
 looking for accommodation. We are open to camping (tent) but is it a good 
 idea? We found the Melville pounds campground in Porthsmouth. Will the drive 
 be like really bad? Any comments please.
 
 airbnb has some closer options but nothing under 150$ a night for a room in 
 an apartment closer to the show... Higher price but maybe it's the way to go 
 to enjoy our stay?
 
 Thanks for your help local cncciers
 
 Bruno Lachance
 87 cc 33 mkII
 Bécassine
 new Richmond, Qc
 
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Re: Stus-List Off topic-Newport boat show 2015

2015-08-20 Thread John Russo via CnC-List
There  is a parking lot for  the show and shuttle from the parking lot in 
Newport at the beach just past the  show. If I remember correctly it is $15 for 
the day including shuttle.

John
Arpeggio 32
Norwalk. CT 


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I have stayed several times at the Best Western in West Greenwich but only in 
May.  The drive from there isn't bad over the Jamestown bridges - from memory 
+/- 35 minutes - but don't hold me to that

I presume there are parking lots for the boat show with shuttle buses. 

--
Jonathan
Indigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

 On Aug 19, 2015, at 21:47, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Hi all, I'm throwing a line here and I'm looking for local knowledge of the 
 Newport area.
 
 Me and my girlfriend are looking to go at the Newport boat show and are 
 looking for accommodation. We are open to camping (tent) but is it a good 
 idea? We found the Melville pounds campground in Porthsmouth. Will the drive 
 be like really bad? Any comments please.
 
 airbnb has some closer options but nothing under 150$ a night for a room in 
 an apartment closer to the show... Higher price but maybe it's the way to go 
 to enjoy our stay?
 
 Thanks for your help local cncciers
 
 Bruno Lachance
 87 cc 33 mkII
 Bécassine
 new Richmond, Qc
 
 Envoyé de mon iPad
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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
If this tank has not been refilled in a long time, there are two things 
to check... Does it have a triangular knob on the valve? That indicates 
that the valve is equipped with the MANDATORY overfill prevention device 
(OPD). Also look for a manufacturing date stamped on the tank indicating 
it's age. Over 12 years, or without the overfill prevention, it is 
illegal to fill the tank.


Bill Bina

On 8/20/2015 8:26 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:


Yep, propane.  Liquefied Propane Gas to be exact.  A grill tank should 
cost about $10-12 to get filled.  From empty. Try to find a place that 
will only charge you for the amount you buy by weight.  Some places 
just charge a flat fee regardless of how much was left in your tank 
before filling.  My local ACE Hardware has good prices and only 
charges for what it took to fill me up.  I think the standard grill 
tanks are 20# and the little green ones for your lanters are 1#.  A 
lot of the aluminum marine grade tanks are about half that.


Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 CC 37+
Solomons, MD

On Aug 20, 2015 8:09 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
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Listers,

I think this was covered in the past, but I'm getting older and I
forgot the answer.

In my 37+, I have a tank labelled LPG for my stove. I need to get
it refilled.

Is this propane? The same propane used for bbq grills? Or is LPG
something a little different?


All the best,

Edd

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Re: Stus-List Off topic-Newport boat show 2015

2015-08-20 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
there are shuttles for the show.  From Portsmouth, you're already on Aquidneck 
island (That islandis made of 3 towns.  Newport, Middletown and Portsmouth) so 
you don't have any bridges to worry about and you may get lucky enough to be 
close to a shuttle. it's about 15-20 minutes ride to downtown Newport from 
Portsmouth.  You could also try Bristol, RI.  there is at least one hotel, and 
a bunch of BBs there.  Its just over the Mt. Hope bridge from Portsmouth and 
is really quaint with lots of restaurants, shops, bike path... I'm not sure if 
it isn't too late to find places to stay for the show though.  My guess is it 
will be pretty busy this year as the economy improves. DannyStill 
ShoppingMassachusetts

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic-Newport boat show 2015
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 08:58:03 -0400

I have stayed several times at the Best Western in West Greenwich but only in 
May.  The drive from there isn't bad over the Jamestown bridges - from memory 
+/- 35 minutes - but don't hold me to that

I presume there are parking lots for the boat show with shuttle buses. 

--
Jonathan
Indigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

 On Aug 19, 2015, at 21:47, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Hi all, I'm throwing a line here and I'm looking for local knowledge of the 
 Newport area.
 
 Me and my girlfriend are looking to go at the Newport boat show and are 
 looking for accommodation. We are open to camping (tent) but is it a good 
 idea? We found the Melville pounds campground in Porthsmouth. Will the drive 
 be like really bad? Any comments please.
 
 airbnb has some closer options but nothing under 150$ a night for a room in 
 an apartment closer to the show... Higher price but maybe it's the way to go 
 to enjoy our stay?
 
 Thanks for your help local cncciers
 
 Bruno Lachance
 87 cc 33 mkII
 Bécassine
 new Richmond, Qc
 
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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Those marine grade tanks aren't cheap so if it is out of date or doesn't
have a OPD,  don't throw it away.  An inspection or OPD retrofit would
probably be well worth it.
Josh
On Aug 20, 2015 8:26 AM, Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep, propane.  Liquefied Propane Gas to be exact.  A grill tank should
 cost about $10-12 to get filled.  From empty.  Try to find a place that
 will only charge you for the amount you buy by weight.  Some places just
 charge a flat fee regardless of how much was left in your tank before
 filling.  My local ACE Hardware has good prices and only charges for what
 it took to fill me up.  I think the standard grill tanks are 20# and the
 little green ones for your lanters are 1#.  A lot of the aluminum marine
 grade tanks are about half that.

 Josh Muckley
 S/V Sea Hawk
 1989 CC 37+
 Solomons, MD
 On Aug 20, 2015 8:09 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Listers,

 I think this was covered in the past, but I'm getting older and I forgot
 the answer.

 In my 37+, I have a tank labelled LPG for my stove. I need to get it
 refilled.

 Is this propane? The same propane used for bbq grills? Or is LPG
 something a little different?


 All the best,

 Edd

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Re: Stus-List Propane tanks

2015-08-20 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Ron,

That's correct.  That is why we have drains in the bottoms of proper
propane lockers.

BTW, if your pressure guage is rusted out, you can get a new Trident gauge
from Amazon for about $15. instead of buying the whole assembly for $90.

Joel
35/3
Annapolis

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Just a reminder, most of you are aware of, that propane is heavier than
 air and will collect in the bilge if you have a bad tank.  Makes a bad tank
 a high risk.
 I have vague recollections of a rather bad explosion on a black boat on
 Lake Michigan back in the early nineties.
 Ron
 Wild Cheri
 CC 30-1
 STL


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 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Propane tanks

 The OPD fitting is simply a new valve that is screwed into the tank,
 replacing the original valve.  There is no welding involved in installing a
 new OPD valve.  The certification dates are stamped (or engraved) onto the
 collar of the tank--there is no magic to this.   While I am not advocating
 this, anyone could put a new date on the collar of the tank and it wouldn't
 be questioned.

 Again, if you have a carbon steel tank and it is out of date, throw it
 away and get a new tank--they are not worth messing with.  Also, any person
 who might fill your steel tank could refuse to fill it on the basis of
 rust, regardless of the last certification date.

 Bob


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Re: Stus-List Propane tanks

2015-08-20 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
Just a reminder, most of you are aware of, that propane is heavier than air and 
will collect in the bilge if you have a bad tank.  Makes a bad tank a high 
risk.I have vague recollections of a rather bad explosion on a black boat on 
Lake Michigan back in the early nineties.RonWild CheriCC 30-1 STL

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 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
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 Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Propane tanks
   
The OPD fitting is simply a new valve that is screwed into the tank, replacing 
the original valve.  There is no welding involved in installing a new OPD 
valve.  The certification dates are stamped (or engraved) onto the collar of 
the tank--there is no magic to this.   While I am not advocating this, anyone 
could put a new date on the collar of the tank and it wouldn't be questioned.
Again, if you have a carbon steel tank and it is out of date, throw it away and 
get a new tank--they are not worth messing with.  Also, any person who might 
fill your steel tank could refuse to fill it on the basis of rust, regardless 
of the last certification date.
Bob

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Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

2015-08-20 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
I just saw this.  the price is rediculous. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045
 but as I was researching the boat i found this. 
http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photosit has to be the same 
boat.  I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping 
it. not that that is necessarily a bad thing...  it just needs a really good 
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Re: Stus-List LED's for TRILIGHT?

2015-08-20 Thread svpegasus38




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I thought I had gotten a tri colar. But I just don't remember. The colors 
are bright when turned on. I wish I could remember what I had. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.




-- Original message--From: Alex Giannelia via CnC-List Date: Thu, Aug 
20, 2015 11:40To: jonbooc...@gmail.com;Cc: Alex 
Giannelia;cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Subject:Stus-List LED's for TRILIGHT?
So, if I understood correctly, You actually found a tri-light LED bulb 
somewhere but it was too noisy for your VHF radio, correct? I searched one LED 
supplier on line and he says he has no tri-colour bulb and that his white bulb 
won’t transmit through the green lens properly The search continues. Alexander 
M. GianneliaPresident the airborne sensing corporation555 Richmond Street West, 
Suite 912, PO Box 1008, Toronto, Ontario M5V 3B1, Canada Phone    (416) 
203-9858Mobile    (416) 529-0070Fax  (416) 203-9843 *Notre site web est 
aussi disponible en français! www.airsensing.com 

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Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

2015-08-20 Thread Harry Hallgring via CnC-List
Seems cheap?

Harry
Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just saw this.  the price is rediculous.
  
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045
  
 but as I was researching the boat i found this.
  
 http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos
 it has to be the same boat.  I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed 
 it up and is flipping it.
  
 not that that is necessarily a bad thing...  it just needs a really good 
 survey...
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Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

2015-08-20 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Alex,

Since you are in Toronto, you may want to check the guy on Georgian Bay at 
http://www.marineledscanada.ca/. He is quite competitive and ships for close to 
nothing (esp. compared to some of the outlets in the US).

Btw. Is the sailing season over? the number of messages on the list has 
suddenly increased ten fold (;-)

Marek
in Ottawa

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

Alex, 

On Pegasus I installed led bulbs in my mast head tri light. I got them from 
Superbrightled.com or something like that several years ago. They have been 
working great. Using 0.4-.5 amps for the anchor light. 



Doug Mountjoy

svPegasus

LF38 

just west of Ballard, WA. 





-- Original message--

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Date: Thu, Aug 20, 2015 09:13

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;

Cc: Alex Giannelia;

Subject:Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?



So,

 

I recently installed a PERKO masthead tri-light and want to know if one can 
insert a replacement LED trilight.  I understand that with the narrow spectrum 
range of some LED’s, I might not be able to insert a replacement white light 
LED but would need some kind of tri-light bulb.

 

What have others done for their masthead tri-lights?

 

Thanks,

 


Alex Giannelia

a...@airsensing.com

(416) 203-9858

 




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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Tom,

You rock!



All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/













 On Aug 20, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Edd
 
 I just got back from 3 weeks out.  But I eft my glasses on board.  So, I'll 
 be on board later today...I check it out for you then...maybe get a picture 
 too.
 
 Tom B
 

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Re: Stus-List LED's for TRILIGHT?

2015-08-20 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
I do not have a marine beam tricolor, but have ~5 or 6 other lights from
them. They are not the cheapest, but I have been very happy with them,
especially this one which we have throughout the cabin in our plastic
reading lamps on our 89 30-2:
http://store.marinebeam.com/red-white-switchable-led-for-dome-lights/

Remember when replacing bulbs with LEDs for nav lights, i understand that
they no longer meet colregs unless the fixture is approved for led
replacement of incandescent bulbs (which I've not seen anywhere... Cause I
looked into doing so) Therefore, if you were in a mishap at night you could
be deemed to be at fault even if you weren't. Of course the Coast Guard may
have a reason to board as well. Either scenario is admittedly unlikely, but
possible.

The new Marine Beam tricolor seems like a very good value on my opinion.

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015, 12:29 PM svpegasu...@gmail.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 I thought I had gotten a tri colar. But I just don't remember. The colors
 are bright when turned on. I wish I could remember what I had.


 Doug Mountjoy

 svPegasus

 LF38

 just west of Ballard, WA.



 -- Original message--

 *From: *Alex Giannelia via CnC-List

 *Date: *Thu, Aug 20, 2015 11:40

 *To: *jonbooc...@gmail.com;

 *Cc: *Alex Giannelia;cnc-list@cnc-list.com;

 *Subject:*Stus-List LED's for TRILIGHT?


 So, if I understood correctly,



 You actually found a tri-light LED bulb somewhere but it was too noisy for
 your VHF radio, correct?



 I searched one LED supplier on line and he says he has no tri-colour bulb
 and that his white bulb won’t transmit through the green lens properly



 The search continues.



 *Alexander M. Giannelia*

 President



 the* airborne sensing *corporation

 555 Richmond Street West, Suite 912, PO Box 1008, Toronto, Ontario M5V
 3B1, Canada



 Phone(416) 203-9858

 Mobile(416) 529-0070

 Fax  (416) 203-9843



 **Notre site web est aussi disponible en français!* *www.airsensing.com
 http://www.airsensing.com http://www.airsensing.com/*


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Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

2015-08-20 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Marinebeam.com sells a red/green/white bulb for the typical aqua signal
series 40? Tri-color light.  I haven't noticed any noise on my VHF but will
pay more attention.  Other than that it works great.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 CC 37+
Solomons, MD
On Aug 20, 2015 1:43 PM, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Rick, likewise, did you get a red green white LED, or are you simply using
 a white light to replace the incandescent?



 Thanks,




 Alex Giannelia

 a...@airsensing.com

 (416) 203-9858



 *From:* Rick Rohwer [mailto:rickroh...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* August-20-15 12:53 PM
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Cc:* svpegasu...@gmail.com; Alex Giannelia
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?



 I have the bulbs and replacement lenz ready to change but can’t find a
 monkey for the mast work.  Several pole climbing ladies have offered and
 then backed out.  I’ll get up there eventually.



 Rick

 Paikea 37+

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 9:44 AM, svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:



 Alex,

 On Pegasus I installed led bulbs in my mast head tri light. I got them from
  Superbrightled.com http://superbrightled.com/ or something like that
 several years ago. They have been working great. Using 0.4-.5 amps for the
 anchor light.



 Doug Mountjoy

 svPegasus

 LF38

 just west of Ballard, WA.





 -- Original message--

 *From: *Alex Giannelia via CnC-List

 *Date: *Thu, Aug 20, 2015 09:13

 *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com;

 *Cc: *Alex Giannelia;

 *Subject:*Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?



 So,



 I recently installed a PERKO masthead tri-light and want to know if one
 can insert a replacement LED trilight.  I understand that with the narrow
 spectrum range of some LED’s, I might not be able to insert a replacement
 white light LED but would need some kind of tri-light bulb.



 What have others done for their masthead tri-lights?



 Thanks,




 Alex Giannelia

 a...@airsensing.com

 (416) 203-9858



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Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

2015-08-20 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I cannot say anything about your tricolour, but I have a white LED in the 
combination red/green bow light on my boat. It certainly shows the right 
colours through the lens. But this may (will?) depend on the lens and the LED.

Marek

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Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Alex Giannelia 
Subject: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

So,

 

I recently installed a PERKO masthead tri-light and want to know if one can 
insert a replacement LED trilight.  I understand that with the narrow spectrum 
range of some LED’s, I might not be able to insert a replacement white light 
LED but would need some kind of tri-light bulb.

 

What have others done for their masthead tri-lights?

 

Thanks,

 


Alex Giannelia

a...@airsensing.com

(416) 203-9858

 




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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread mike amirault via CnC-List
These aluminum tanks are worth recertifying. Had mine done in Bridgewater near 
Halifax for $50, a lot cheaper than buying a new tank. Costco in Halifax will 
not refill these aluminum tanks at all because the pumps are programmed and 
cannot be over ridden manually. I take mine to a place that still has a manual 
scale.

Mike Amirault
CC33 MKii Lovely Cruise, SMSC
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Re: Stus-List Universal Engine panel wiring- Problem Solved!

2015-08-20 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Why add a solenoid and complication?. The original design worked all these 
years. The harness quick connects are the problem. Bypass those and you will 
never miss them. 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:02:38 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Universal Engine panel wiring- Problem Solved! 

I traced the wire yesterday, and it does not look like there is a solenoid for 
the glow plugs. I will have to think about adding one (perhaps when I remove 
the connector this winter). Dave 

On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:06 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote: 





Thanks for letting us know what you found. I'm still curious to know if you 
have a glo-plug solenoid. 

If you don't have, can't fine, can't wait for tefgel then silicone dielectric 
grease (spark plug boot grease) can be found at any auto parts store and is a 
good alternative. 

Josh Muckley 
S/V Sea Hawk 
1989 CC 37+ 
Solomons, MD 
On Aug 16, 2015 5:14 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List  cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
wrote: 

blockquote

I wanted to report back on the latest on my engine panel. I was able to get the 
connector in the engine compartment apart today. Two of the pins were 
particularly black and all looked corroded. I cleaned them all and put it back 
together and remarkably, the engine started with both buttons held down. So 
that high resistance junction seems to have been the source of the problem. It 
is such a rewarding feeling when all the work pays off and a problem is solved. 
Thanks for all the advice and suggestions! 

Now- what to do about the future- I am considering putting some electrically 
conductive grease on the contacts before reassembling the connector. I may 
still butt connect all the wires this winter, but the grease seems like a good 
option to retain good contact. Dave 



Aries 
1990 CC 34+ 
New London, CT 

pastedGraphic.tiff 


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Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

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Alex, On Pegasus I installed led bulbs in my mast head tri light. I got 
them from Superbrightled.com or something like that several years ago. They 
have been working great. Using 0.4-.5 amps for the anchor light. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.




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Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
So, I recently installed a PERKO masthead tri-light and want to know if one can 
insert a replacement LED trilight.  I understand that with the narrow spectrum 
range of some LED’s, I might not be able to insert a replacement white light 
LED but would need some kind of tri-light bulb. What have others done for their 
masthead tri-lights? Thanks, 
Alex gianneli...@airsensing.com(416) 203-9858 

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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
If its an aluminum tank, there is no reason to replace it--it can be easily and 
cheaply recertified ($5).  If it is carbon steel, discard it--its not worth the 
time.

Bob

Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 I have never refilled it — and I’ve owned the boat for 10 years now. It has 
 the triangular knob and I can’t see a manufacture date, but I would imagine 
 it’s original to the boat. 
 
 I’ll try getting it filled and, if that fails, I’ll buy a new one at 
 Defender. We are going to the CC Rendezvous next month and extending it to a 
 7-day cruise.
 
 I just didn’t want to run out. If my wife can’t have her coffee, she’ll jump 
 ship. 
 
 
 All the best,
 
 Edd
 
 
 Edd M. Schillay
 Starship Enterprise
 CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
 City Island, NY 
 Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Ron Ricci rvri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Edd,
  
 Mine is propane and can be refilled for most anywhere.  If your tank is more 
 than about 12 years old, it may not be able to be refilled without being 
 tested.  That’s not worth the money.  Also, the tank, if it is really old, 
 may not have an overfill preventer in which case it cannot be refilled.
  
 My tank had to be replaced when I bought the boat in 2010.  I got a 
 fiberglass tank which is great.  No corrosion and you can see the level in 
 the tank if you look carefully.  
  
 Regards,
 Ron
 Ron Ricci
 S/V Patriot
 CC 37+
 Bristol, RI
 ron.ri...@1968.usna.com
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Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

2015-08-20 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
I have the bulbs and replacement lenz ready to change but can’t find a monkey 
for the mast work.  Several pole climbing ladies have offered and then backed 
out.  I’ll get up there eventually.  

Rick
Paikea 37+
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 9:44 AM, svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Alex, 
 On Pegasus I installed led bulbs in my mast head tri light. I got them from 
 Superbrightled.com http://superbrightled.com/ or something like that 
 several years ago. They have been working great. Using 0.4-.5 amps for the 
 anchor light. 
 
 Doug Mountjoy
 svPegasus
 LF38 
 just west of Ballard, WA. 
 
 
 -- Original message--
 From: Alex Giannelia via CnC-List
 Date: Thu, Aug 20, 2015 09:13
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com;
 Cc: Alex Giannelia;
 Subject:Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
 
 So,
  
 I recently installed a PERKO masthead tri-light and want to know if one can 
 insert a replacement LED trilight.  I understand that with the narrow 
 spectrum range of some LED’s, I might not be able to insert a replacement 
 white light LED but would need some kind of tri-light bulb.
  
 What have others done for their masthead tri-lights?
  
 Thanks,
  
 
 Alex Giannelia
 a...@airsensing.com mailto:a...@airsensing.com
 (416) 203-9858 tel:(416) 203-9858
  
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Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

2015-08-20 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Alex — try www.marinebeam.com http://www.marinebeam.com/.  They should have 
the right lamp for your fixture.  I’ve put several of their warm-white LED 
interior fixtures on my boat now (the 24” High-line fluorescent replacement 
http://store.marinebeam.com/high-line-24-led-fluorescent-replacement-fixture/ 
http://store.marinebeam.com/high-line-24-led-fluorescent-replacement-fixture/),
 and love them.  Next winter when I rewire the mast, I’ll be installing their 
masthead tri/anchor light 
(http://store.marinebeam.com/led-tri-color-navigation-and-all-around-anchor-light/
 
http://store.marinebeam.com/led-tri-color-navigation-and-all-around-anchor-light/)
 and steaming/deck light 
(http://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/ 
http://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/).  They 
make well-engineered products that look like they’ll hold up well.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 11:44 AM, svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Alex, 
 On Pegasus I installed led bulbs in my mast head tri light. I got them from 
 Superbrightled.com http://superbrightled.com/ or something like that 
 several years ago. They have been working great. Using 0.4-.5 amps for the 
 anchor light. 
 
 Doug Mountjoy
 svPegasus
 LF38 
 just west of Ballard, WA. 
 
 
 -- Original message--
 From: Alex Giannelia via CnC-List
 Date: Thu, Aug 20, 2015 09:13
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com;
 Cc: Alex Giannelia;
 Subject:Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
 
 So,
  
 I recently installed a PERKO masthead tri-light and want to know if one can 
 insert a replacement LED trilight.  I understand that with the narrow 
 spectrum range of some LED’s, I might not be able to insert a replacement 
 white light LED but would need some kind of tri-light bulb.
  
 What have others done for their masthead tri-lights?
  
 Thanks,
  
 
 Alex Giannelia
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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
Hi Edd
It is Liquid propane gas, same as barbie!

Rick

Paikea  37+
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 5:09 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Listers,
 
 I think this was covered in the past, but I'm getting older and I forgot the 
 answer. 
 
 In my 37+, I have a tank labelled LPG for my stove. I need to get it 
 refilled. 
 
 Is this propane? The same propane used for bbq grills? Or is LPG something a 
 little different? 
 
 
 All the best,
 
 Edd
 
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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

2015-08-20 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
The fresh water kills all the saltwater organisms, but you are right,the boat 
should float slightly lower since fresh is lighter than salt!!  

I’ve had boats in fresh water though and the slime grows just about as fast 
until you take a sail in the salt. 

Rick
Paikea 37+

 On Aug 19, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Leslie Paal via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 in fresh water your boat sits lower.   ;-)
 
 Leslie.
 
 
 On Wed, 8/19/15, William Hall via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners
 To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: William Hall wh...@alum.mit.edu
 Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2015, 7:33 AM
 
 My CC
 37 has the house batteries in about that same place.  Easy
 to get to.  The only issue is that between batteries,
 inverter, radome etc, the boat sits a little low in the
 stern, leading to growth on the gel coat just above the
 bottom paint.  My solution was to move to
 freshwater!
 BillStarfire1985
 CC 37Now in Ludington, MI
 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at
 10:20 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:
 I put two extra batteries on a
 shelf I build in the starboard cockpit locker against the
 forward bulkhead.  I used sealed batteries throughout so
 those two that are a bitch to get to won't need much
 attention.
 Bob
 On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Rick
 Brass via CnC-List wrote:
 I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to
 NC, and along the way we are making up a project list. The
 boat will be used for live aboard cruising.
 
 The current setup has one new
 start battery as bank 1, and two old batteries in parallel
 as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to be
 replaced in the next couple of weeks, and we would like to
 maximize the AHR capacity and try to increase the number of
 batteries in the house bank. 
 
 The start battery is in the locker under the
 front half of the quarter berth. The house batteries are on
 a shelf on the port side of the engine compartment (and are
 a bitch to get to). There is no room for more batteries on
 the shelf.
 
 So where have
 you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size
 of you house bank?
 
 Rick
 Brass
 Jim Schwartz
 s/v Sea
 Ya
 1983 LF38 Hull # 105
 
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 nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as
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Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?

2015-08-20 Thread Alex Giannelia via CnC-List
So,

I recently installed a PERKO masthead tri-light and want to know if one can 
insert a replacement LED trilight.  I understand that with the narrow spectrum 
range of some LED's, I might not be able to insert a replacement white light 
LED but would need some kind of tri-light bulb.

What have others done for their masthead tri-lights?

Thanks,


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Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

2015-08-20 Thread William Hall via CnC-List
Slime maybe.  But I used to get lots worse than slime (barnacles, hairy
goop, and a whole ecosystem of who knows what) whereas I'm not seeing that
now.

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Rick Rohwer via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 The fresh water kills all the saltwater organisms, but you are right,the
 boat should float slightly lower since fresh is lighter than salt!!

 I’ve had boats in fresh water though and the slime grows just about as
 fast until you take a sail in the salt.

 Rick
 Paikea 37+

  On Aug 19, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Leslie Paal via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
  in fresh water your boat sits lower.   ;-)
 
  Leslie.
 
  
  On Wed, 8/19/15, William Hall via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners
  To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: William Hall wh...@alum.mit.edu
  Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2015, 7:33 AM
 
  My CC
  37 has the house batteries in about that same place.  Easy
  to get to.  The only issue is that between batteries,
  inverter, radome etc, the boat sits a little low in the
  stern, leading to growth on the gel coat just above the
  bottom paint.  My solution was to move to
  freshwater!
  BillStarfire1985
  CC 37Now in Ludington, MI
  On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at
  10:20 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  wrote:
  I put two extra batteries on a
  shelf I build in the starboard cockpit locker against the
  forward bulkhead.  I used sealed batteries throughout so
  those two that are a bitch to get to won't need much
  attention.
  Bob
  On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Rick
  Brass via CnC-List wrote:
  I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to
  NC, and along the way we are making up a project list. The
  boat will be used for live aboard cruising.
 
  The current setup has one new
  start battery as bank 1, and two old batteries in parallel
  as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to be
  replaced in the next couple of weeks, and we would like to
  maximize the AHR capacity and try to increase the number of
  batteries in the house bank.
 
  The start battery is in the locker under the
  front half of the quarter berth. The house batteries are on
  a shelf on the port side of the engine compartment (and are
  a bitch to get to). There is no room for more batteries on
  the shelf.
 
  So where have
  you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size
  of you house bank?
 
  Rick
  Brass
  Jim Schwartz
  s/v Sea
  Ya
  1983 LF38 Hull # 105
 
  Sent from my iPad
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  Rainy Days (1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
  email: dainyrays@icloud.comblog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
 
  There is
  nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as
  simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth
  Grahame
 
 
 
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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
Edd,

 

Mine is propane and can be refilled for most anywhere.  If your tank is more 
than about 12 years old, it may not be able to be refilled without being 
tested.  That’s not worth the money.  Also, the tank, if it is really old, may 
not have an overfill preventer in which case it cannot be refilled.

 

My tank had to be replaced when I bought the boat in 2010.  I got a fiberglass 
tank which is great.  No corrosion and you can see the level in the tank if you 
look carefully.  

 

Regards,

Ron

Ron Ricci

S/V Patriot

CC 37+

Bristol, RI

 mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com ron.ri...@1968.usna.com

 

  

 

From: Edd Schillay [mailto:e...@schillay.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:09 AM
To: cnc-list Cnc-List
Subject: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

 

Listers,

 

I think this was covered in the past, but I'm getting older and I forgot the 
answer. 

 

In my 37+, I have a tank labelled LPG for my stove. I need to get it refilled. 

 

Is this propane? The same propane used for bbq grills? Or is LPG something a 
little different? 

 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

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Re: Stus-List Off topic-Newport boat show 2015

2015-08-20 Thread Bruno Lachance via CnC-List
Thanks for the replies and keep them running if you got an idea or a plan for 
us. 
 
We would like to stay close to town to be able to just go walk around and dont 
spend to much time in the car. We will keep looking, Airbnb has some good 
offers and the Melvill campgroud is still an option so we have more money in 
our pockets to spend at the show and eating out. It's nice to know that there 
will be some parking and shuttle buses, i will try to learn more about the 
location of those.
 
I have to confess that my absolute best would be to be able to stay / camp on a 
boat at a dock close by. Any idea if a lister or other poeple would be willing 
to rent their boat for few nights. That could be more boat bucks in your 
Pocket, i dont know what to offer but something  like around 250$ plus a bottle 
of something good to start talking (17-20 sept)! We are not looking for luxury, 
and asking no more than just a place to sleep with our sleeping bags. Obviously 
would leave the place as we found it (leave no trace!)
 
But i kind of understand that most boats seem to be on a mooring and less 
accessible for us.
 
thanks for the help.
 
Bruno Lachance
87 CC 33 mkII, Bécassine
New-Richmond, Qc
 
 
 

 
 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:40:22 -0400
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic-Newport boat show 2015
 From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 CC: a.burton.sai...@gmail.com
 
 Personally,  I soul be closer to town. Npt. HaS lotsa more to offers than 
 just the show.
 
 Andy
 
 Andrew Burton
 61 W Narragansett
 Newport, RI 
 USA02840
 
 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
 +401 965-5260
 
  On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:03, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  wrote:
  
  There  is a parking lot for  the show and shuttle from the parking lot in 
  Newport at the beach just past the  show. If I remember correctly it is $15 
  for the day including shuttle.
  
  John
  Arpeggio 32
  Norwalk. CT 
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo 
  via CnC-List
  Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:58 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Indigo
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic-Newport boat show 2015
  
  I have stayed several times at the Best Western in West Greenwich but only 
  in May.  The drive from there isn't bad over the Jamestown bridges - from 
  memory +/- 35 minutes - but don't hold me to that
  
  I presume there are parking lots for the boat show with shuttle buses. 
  
  --
  Jonathan
  Indigo CC 35III
  SOUTHPORT CT
  
  On Aug 19, 2015, at 21:47, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List 
  cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
  
  Hi all, I'm throwing a line here and I'm looking for local knowledge of 
  the Newport area.
  
  Me and my girlfriend are looking to go at the Newport boat show and are 
  looking for accommodation. We are open to camping (tent) but is it a good 
  idea? We found the Melville pounds campground in Porthsmouth. Will the 
  drive be like really bad? Any comments please.
  
  airbnb has some closer options but nothing under 150$ a night for a room 
  in an apartment closer to the show... Higher price but maybe it's the way 
  to go to enjoy our stay?
  
  Thanks for your help local cncciers
  
  Bruno Lachance
  87 cc 33 mkII
  Bécassine
  new Richmond, Qc
  
  Envoyé de mon iPad
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Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

2015-08-20 Thread S Thomas via CnC-List
The seller is clearly being dishonest. 
Depending on the quality of the work done, it might be a good deal, but saying 
that it only has SOME LIGHT WEAR FROM REGULAR SAILING is deliberately 
misleading. 
Ebay was much better and safer for purchasers, when bidders were allowed to 
communicate with each other. 
The way they run it now facilitates crooks. 

Steve Thomas
CC27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON
  - Original Message - 
  From: Harry Hallgring via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Harry Hallgring 
  Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 15:50
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay


  Seems cheap?

  Harry
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:


I just saw this.  the price is rediculous.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045

but as I was researching the boat i found this.

http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos
it has to be the same boat.  I think someone bought the salvaged boat, 
fixed it up and is flipping it.

not that that is necessarily a bad thing...  it just needs a really good 
survey...
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Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+

2015-08-20 Thread Eric Baumes via CnC-List
I had my alumin tank re-valved and retested. Cheaper than a new aluminum. I
would probably do fiberglass the next time around.

Eric
34/36

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:48 PM, mike amirault via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 These aluminum tanks are worth recertifying. Had mine done in Bridgewater
 near Halifax for $50, a lot cheaper than buying a new tank. Costco in
 Halifax will not refill these aluminum tanks at all because the pumps are
 programmed and cannot be over ridden manually. I take mine to a place that
 still has a manual scale.

 Mike Amirault
 CC33 MKii Lovely Cruise, SMSC


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