Re: Stus-List C&C 25 MK II Manual

[Tod Baudais via CnC-List]

Thanks Bill, that would be amazing. 

Tod

> On Jun 10, 2018, at 6:10 PM, Bill Dakin  wrote:
> 
> I have one to scan and upload for you and the cncphoto site.  
> 
> Bill Dakin
> ‘81 25-2
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Tod Baudais via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I just bought my first C&C! It’s a 1982 C&C 25 Mk II and I’m loving it so 
>> far.  There’s still a few mysteries and I was wondering if anyone had a 
>> manual for this boat. cncphotoalbum.com doesn’t seem to have the MK II 
>> listed. Specifically right now I’m looking for how to rig the boom and 
>> reefing lines but I’m sure other things will pop up too.
>> 
>> Thanks and I’m glad to be part of the club!
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Re: Stus-List Outhaul replacement, C&C 37/40+

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Bruce,

I did a core to core eye splice which I simply attach to the d-shackle
which you have shown in the picture.  I attach it to the D not the pin
effectively keeping the clew and the eye of the outhaul tied together.  You
could also use an additional soft shackle to directly attach the eye to the
clew.

While you are at it you might consider adding a purchase system to your
outhaul.  I added a 4:1 internal to the boom and now I can adjust the
outhaul under almost all wind conditions.  I also added a 2:1 to the first
reef.  It is amazing how much easier it is to make adjustments and reef.  I
didn't have enough boom length to accommodate any form of purchase on the
2nd reef but since there is so much less sail it doesn't make too much
difference.  In order to create a fixed point for my purchase systems I
worked with a local fab shop to make a becket for the triple turning block
in the mast end of the boom.  You can see the block in the link below but
the picture is prior to the addition of the becket.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1ydWx5N3FISk5JWUU/view?usp=drivesdk

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 10:07 PM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Our outhaul is faded and ready for replacement.  Currently, it is
> comprised of Sta-Set braided to wire, and the wire is then formed around a
> small thimble as it attaches to a car in the slot on the boom.  A photo can
> be found here:  Outhaul.jpg.
> 
>
> Outhaul.jpg
> Shared with Dropbox
> 
>
> I'd like to just go with a decent line and avoid the whole splice, thimble
> & nicopress fitting idea.  I should have enough room for a simple knot and
> still have enough travel.  But, I need to convert the attachment to the
> sliding car.  I'm thinking, however, that if I tie a 3/8 or 7/16" line to a
> larger shackle, it may apply too much sideways pull on the hole in the car.
>Has anyone else dealt with this on a C&C 37/40+ with a similar boom &
> wire rope setup?
>
> By the way, I really like the Novabraid Argus or NE Ropes VPC due to the
> "nubby" cover that grabs nicely in my clutches.  The current clutch slips
> slightly on my very old and tired outhaul, but I'm not sure a Argus or VPC
> to wire braid is either possible or even desirable.
>
> Thanks for the advice!
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+
> Madeira Beach, FL
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Stus-List Outhaul replacement, C&C 37/40+

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hello all,
Our outhaul is faded and ready for replacement.  Currently, it is comprised of 
Sta-Set braided to wire, and the wire is then formed around a small thimble as 
it attaches to a car in the slot on the boom.  A photo can be found here:  
Outhaul.jpg.

  
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Outhaul.jpg
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I'd like to just go with a decent line and avoid the whole splice, thimble & 
nicopress fitting idea.  I should have enough room for a simple knot and still 
have enough travel.  But, I need to convert the attachment to the sliding car.  
I'm thinking, however, that if I tie a 3/8 or 7/16" line to a larger shackle, 
it may apply too much sideways pull on the hole in the car.    Has anyone else 
dealt with this on a C&C 37/40+ with a similar boom & wire rope setup?  

By the way, I really like the Novabraid Argus or NE Ropes VPC due to the 
"nubby" cover that grabs nicely in my clutches.  The current clutch slips 
slightly on my very old and tired outhaul, but I'm not sure a Argus or VPC to 
wire braid is either possible or even desirable. 

Thanks for the advice! Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+
Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Stus-List C&C Rescue Committee finds

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

The new normal I guess :(

The 35 is going to be tough to find a buyer with a dead 4-60 diesel. A4 
parts are easy, but I think 4-60 parts come from English tractor shops.


Joe

Coquina


On 6/11/2018 7:58 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote:

Wow, they look like amazing buys.  Shocking.

Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md



On June 11, 2018 at 5:38 PM "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
 wrote:


https://easternshore.craigslist.org/boa/d/1979-cc-30/6589132460.html

1979 C&C 30 - $1500 (Cape Charles, VA) hide this posting unhide
© craigslist - Map data © OpenStreetMap
Marina Road
condition: fair
length overall (LOA): 29
make / manufacturer: C and C
model name / number: C and C
propulsion type: sail
year manufactured: 1979
QR Code Link to This Post
Very nice fin keel spade rudder Chesapeake Bay cruising boat. Sturdy and nice 
sailing boat. Project boat as she was neglected a while

https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/cc-35-mark/6564737295.html

C&C 35 (Mark 1) 1973 - $5900 (Galesville

This boat is a wonderful sailing, racing and cruising yacht. Draft 5.25 
Westerbeke 4-60 diesel need a lot of work, new fuel tank not installed, new 
sails, no cushions, roller furling and lots of parts. Perfect sailboat to live 
on!

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/boa/d/cc-34-sailboat-to-good-home/6610648149.html

C&C 34 sailboat to good home - $1000 (Podickory Point

Mid-1980's vintage C&C yachts 34 foot classic sloop. Helping parents sell the 
family boat after several years of non-use. 2nd owner and the boat was purchased in 
fairly new condition in the late 80's. All documents and title. Interior cushions 
have been lovingly stored indoors to help the process of getting the boat livable 
again. With some cosmetic repair and engine work this boat could be a great 
opportunity for a new family looking to ease into boat ownership. Please call Phil 
(son) and I can put you in touch with the owner/s if it seems to be a good match.


I suspect the coming decade will see a lot more of this with boats of all 
kinds. Florida already seems overrun with half-dead boats.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I






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Re: Stus-List C&C Rescue Committee finds

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Wow, they look like amazing buys.  Shocking.

Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md


> On June 11, 2018 at 5:38 PM "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://easternshore.craigslist.org/boa/d/1979-cc-30/6589132460.html
> 
> 1979 C&C 30 - $1500 (Cape Charles, VA) hide this posting unhide 
> © craigslist - Map data © OpenStreetMap
> Marina Road
> condition: fair 
> length overall (LOA): 29 
> make / manufacturer: C and C 
> model name / number: C and C 
> propulsion type: sail 
> year manufactured: 1979 
> QR Code Link to This Post
> Very nice fin keel spade rudder Chesapeake Bay cruising boat. Sturdy and nice 
> sailing boat. Project boat as she was neglected a while
> 
> https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/cc-35-mark/6564737295.html
> 
> C&C 35 (Mark 1) 1973 - $5900 (Galesville
> 
> This boat is a wonderful sailing, racing and cruising yacht. Draft 5.25 
> Westerbeke 4-60 diesel need a lot of work, new fuel tank not installed, new 
> sails, no cushions, roller furling and lots of parts. Perfect sailboat to 
> live on!
> 
> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/boa/d/cc-34-sailboat-to-good-home/6610648149.html
> 
> C&C 34 sailboat to good home - $1000 (Podickory Point
> 
> Mid-1980's vintage C&C yachts 34 foot classic sloop. Helping parents sell the 
> family boat after several years of non-use. 2nd owner and the boat was 
> purchased in fairly new condition in the late 80's. All documents and title. 
> Interior cushions have been lovingly stored indoors to help the process of 
> getting the boat livable again. With some cosmetic repair and engine work 
> this boat could be a great opportunity for a new family looking to ease into 
> boat ownership. Please call Phil (son) and I can put you in touch with the 
> owner/s if it seems to be a good match.
> 
> 
> I suspect the coming decade will see a lot more of this with boats of all 
> kinds. Florida already seems overrun with half-dead boats.
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina
> C&C 35 MK I
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Stus-List C&C Rescue Committee finds

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

https://easternshore.craigslist.org/boa/d/1979-cc-30/6589132460.html

1979 C&C 30 - $1500 (Cape Charles, VA) hide this posting unhide 
© craigslist - Map data © OpenStreetMap
Marina Road
condition: fair 
length overall (LOA): 29 
make / manufacturer: C and C 
model name / number: C and C 
propulsion type: sail 
year manufactured: 1979 
QR Code Link to This Post
Very nice fin keel spade rudder Chesapeake Bay cruising boat. Sturdy and nice 
sailing boat. Project boat as she was neglected a while

https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/cc-35-mark/6564737295.html

C&C 35 (Mark 1) 1973 - $5900 (Galesville

This boat is a wonderful sailing, racing and cruising yacht. Draft 5.25 
Westerbeke 4-60 diesel need a lot of work, new fuel tank not installed, new 
sails, no cushions, roller furling and lots of parts. Perfect sailboat to live 
on!

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/boa/d/cc-34-sailboat-to-good-home/6610648149.html

C&C 34 sailboat to good home - $1000 (Podickory Point

Mid-1980's vintage C&C yachts 34 foot classic sloop. Helping parents sell the 
family boat after several years of non-use. 2nd owner and the boat was 
purchased in fairly new condition in the late 80's. All documents and title. 
Interior cushions have been lovingly stored indoors to help the process of 
getting the boat livable again. With some cosmetic repair and engine work this 
boat could be a great opportunity for a new family looking to ease into boat 
ownership. Please call Phil (son) and I can put you in touch with the owner/s 
if it seems to be a good match.


I suspect the coming decade will see a lot more of this with boats of all 
kinds. Florida already seems overrun with half-dead boats.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I






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Re: Stus-List Battery monitor shunt location

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Slightly off-topic but battery monitor related, after sailing off Croatia last 
summer I decided to buy one of these 
  
No support in the U.S. but I’m always up for something new.  I replaced my Link 
20 with this unit. It has a 24-hour barograph, tank monitor, ambient 
temperature in addition to monitoring 2 battery banks. It has bluetooth so I 
can monitor with it’s app on my iPhone.

Looks trick if nothing else. ;-)

And FWIW, the shunt is placed behind the distribution panel.

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 

> On Jun 11, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> On my 34, a couple years ago I rewired my batteries, starter, alternator, 
> installed a Victron BMV-702s, blue sea switch and ACR, plus some bars and 
> breakers.
> 
> I wanted a location that was near to the batteries, engine room, and fuse 
> panel.  The batteries were under the quarter birth so I installed the shunt, 
> ACR, buses, breakers all on the plywood board that separated the battery 
> compartment from other storage under the quarter berth.  I took that board 
> home and worked on it there, naming it my "shunt board."  It had things 
> mounted on both sides of it and has worked out really well.  
> 
> No problems since installing it. I got the Bluetooth dongle for the Victron 
> and can check the battery stats from the cockpit easily.  Eventually, I 
> surface mounted the Victron display just under the VHF beside the fuse panel 
> above the nav table.
> 
> This page is very useful and I utilized its previous version (on pbase) for 
> my install:
> 
> https://marinehowto.com/installing-a-battery-monitor/ 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Jeremy
>   '78 C&C 34, #41
>   Vancouver Island, BC
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Brad Crawford mailto:bcrawf7...@comcast.net>>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: 
> Bcc: 
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:27:27 -0700
> Subject: Stus-List Battery monitor shunt location
> I recently purchased a Victron battery monitor and am wondering where others, 
> particularly 36' owners, have mounted their battery monitor shunts, if they 
> have one?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Brad Crawford
> "Dora Pearl"
> C&C 36
> Seattle
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Re: Stus-List Battery monitor shunt location

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Edd,

As you mentioned the load is so small.  I believe that it is insignificant
to justify the cost and time of adding even just a simple switch.  That
being said, like nearly all electronic devices, the Link2000 has a power
supply (+ and -).  Put a switch in line with the + and presto you have a
means for turning it off.  The advantage of leaving it on is that it will
continue to monitor current draw from things like the bilge pump, led
anchor light, radio memory, and cigarette lighter accessories.
Individually these are also insignificant but overtime they may accumulate
a surprisingly large number of amp hours which would go unmonitored without
the Link 2000 (or other battery monitor being on.  Even the draw of the
Link 2000 should be being monitored assuming it is on and wired correctly.

For anybody looking for a cheap solution check out the DROK products on
Amazon.  I've been extremely impressed with the price, quality, and
functionality.  For loads less than 20 amps they have a modle with an
integrated shunt.  For greater than 20 amps you'll need to make sure to
plan for a shunt (always on the ground).

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:44 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I’ve been following this thread as my PO-installed Link 2000 just isn’t
> working great and I’m considering a replacement.
>
> Perhaps I’m weird in this regard, but I’m not a fan of having any kind of
> load on the batteries overnight when I leave the boat. And I know these
> monitors have a constant load on the battery, albeit a small one.
> Nevertheless, has anyone connected one of these to a switch so you can see
> readings on demand (and not all the time)? Or does that make it all not
> work properly?
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> On my 34, a couple years ago I rewired my batteries, starter, alternator,
> installed a Victron BMV-702s, blue sea switch and ACR, plus some bars and
> breakers.
>
> I wanted a location that was near to the batteries, engine room, and fuse
> panel.  The batteries were under the quarter birth so I installed the
> shunt, ACR, buses, breakers all on the plywood board that separated the
> battery compartment from other storage under the quarter berth.  I took
> that board home and worked on it there, naming it my "shunt board."  It
> had things mounted on both sides of it and has worked out really well.
>
> No problems since installing it. I got the Bluetooth dongle for the
> Victron and can check the battery stats from the cockpit easily.
> Eventually, I surface mounted the Victron display just under the VHF beside
> the fuse panel above the nav table.
>
> This page is very useful and I utilized its previous version (on pbase)
> for my install:
>
> https://marinehowto.com/installing-a-battery-monitor/
>
> Cheers,
>   Jeremy
>   '78 C&C 34, #41
>   Vancouver Island, BC
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Brad Crawford 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:27:27 -0700
> Subject: Stus-List Battery monitor shunt location
> I recently purchased a Victron battery monitor and am wondering where
> others, particularly 36' owners, have mounted their battery monitor shunts,
> if they have one?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Brad Crawford
> "Dora Pearl"
> C&C 36
> Seattle
>
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Re: Stus-List Battery monitor shunt location

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

All,

I’ve been following this thread as my PO-installed Link 2000 just isn’t working 
great and I’m considering a replacement. 

Perhaps I’m weird in this regard, but I’m not a fan of having any kind of load 
on the batteries overnight when I leave the boat. And I know these monitors 
have a constant load on the battery, albeit a small one. Nevertheless, has 
anyone connected one of these to a switch so you can see readings on demand 
(and not all the time)? Or does that make it all not work properly? 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 






On Jun 11, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List  
wrote:

On my 34, a couple years ago I rewired my batteries, starter, alternator, 
installed a Victron BMV-702s, blue sea switch and ACR, plus some bars and 
breakers.

I wanted a location that was near to the batteries, engine room, and fuse 
panel.  The batteries were under the quarter birth so I installed the shunt, 
ACR, buses, breakers all on the plywood board that separated the battery 
compartment from other storage under the quarter berth.  I took that board home 
and worked on it there, naming it my "shunt board."  It had things mounted on 
both sides of it and has worked out really well.  

No problems since installing it. I got the Bluetooth dongle for the Victron and 
can check the battery stats from the cockpit easily.  Eventually, I surface 
mounted the Victron display just under the VHF beside the fuse panel above the 
nav table.

This page is very useful and I utilized its previous version (on pbase) for my 
install:

https://marinehowto.com/installing-a-battery-monitor/ 


Cheers,
  Jeremy
  '78 C&C 34, #41
  Vancouver Island, BC

-- Forwarded message --
From: Brad Crawford mailto:bcrawf7...@comcast.net>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:27:27 -0700
Subject: Stus-List Battery monitor shunt location
I recently purchased a Victron battery monitor and am wondering where others, 
particularly 36' owners, have mounted their battery monitor shunts, if they 
have one?

Many thanks,

Brad Crawford
"Dora Pearl"
C&C 36
Seattle

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Re: Stus-List Battery monitor shunt location

[Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List]

On my 34, a couple years ago I rewired my batteries, starter, alternator,
installed a Victron BMV-702s, blue sea switch and ACR, plus some bars and
breakers.

I wanted a location that was near to the batteries, engine room, and fuse
panel.  The batteries were under the quarter birth so I installed the
shunt, ACR, buses, breakers all on the plywood board that separated the
battery compartment from other storage under the quarter berth.  I took
that board home and worked on it there, naming it my "shunt board."  It had
things mounted on both sides of it and has worked out really well.

No problems since installing it. I got the Bluetooth dongle for the Victron
and can check the battery stats from the cockpit easily.  Eventually, I
surface mounted the Victron display just under the VHF beside the fuse
panel above the nav table.

This page is very useful and I utilized its previous version (on pbase) for
my install:

https://marinehowto.com/installing-a-battery-monitor/

Cheers,
  Jeremy
  '78 C&C 34, #41
  Vancouver Island, BC

-- Forwarded message --
From: Brad Crawford 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:27:27 -0700
Subject: Stus-List Battery monitor shunt location
I recently purchased a Victron battery monitor and am wondering where
others, particularly 36' owners, have mounted their battery monitor shunts,
if they have one?

Many thanks,

Brad Crawford
"Dora Pearl"
C&C 36
Seattle
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Re: Stus-List Battery monitor shunt location

[Brad Crawford via CnC-List]

Nice write up.  Yeah space is limited, my batteries are located under the 
quarter berth and there is a small amount of unused  space next to the battery 
box on the bulkhead separating the storage compartment behind the battery 
compartment.  I think I’ll be able to mount a negative buss bar also.

 

Thanks for sharing,

Brad

 

 

From: Dave S [mailto:syerd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:31 PM
To: DON JONSSON
Cc: Brad Crawford; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery monitor shunt location

 

Similar install in our 33-2 as documented here:

 

https://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html?m=1

 

Dave 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 10, 2018, at 2:08 PM, DON JONSSON  wrote:

We recently installed one on a 34.  We mounted it in the engine room where 
other electronic items,  wires, etc. are and there is also a large ground 
busbar there to make it easy to connect things in an orderly fashion.  The 
house batteries are about 2 feet away under the quarter berth.

The starter battery is on the other side under the sink.  So the location makes 
it easy to run the sensor wires to both banks.

We are happy with it.

Don Jonsson
Andante, Victoria

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 9, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Brad Crawford  wrote:

I recently purchased a Victron battery monitor and am wondering where others, 
particularly 36' owners, have mounted their battery monitor shunts, if they 
have one?

Many thanks,

Brad Crawford
"Dora Pearl"
C&C 36
Seattle


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