Re: Stus-List Catharsis message

[T Sutton via CnC-List]

Hi David, Sorry to hear of your mishap but it does happen to the rest of us as 
well.  When it happened to me (our anchor let go in a storm while at anchor) my 
rudder was beat up pretty good and by the time I made it home there was only 
half of it left.  Instead of South Shore I got a new rudder from Competition 
Composites Inc. near Ottawa Ontario.  I think it is a better made product and 
when dealing with insurance they used the quote from South Shore for the value 
and CCI was enough cheaper to cover the deductible and most of my expenses for 
a trip to Ottawa to pick it up.  I sent the old one up then picked the new one 
up  couple weeks later.  My post wasn’t bent so I reused but if yours is bent 
you might be able to get a carbon fibre replacement.

Cheers,

Tom S

From: David Knecht 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 11:18 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Subject: Stus-List Catharsis message

It is a sad morning here and I need some help to drag me out of my depression.  
This list is my support group, advisers, experts and therapists.  Or maybe you 
will kick my butt for being an idiot and that could help as well.  Aries had a 
serious grounding on a reef on Saturday and is currently awaiting insurance to 
start assessing the situation.  We were barely towed off the reef by SeaTow and 
the boat is on the hard at a local marina.  The damage is worse than I had 
hoped and better than it could have been.  When they were able to pull us off 
the lip of the reef (tide going out, getting desperate) the rudder hit the reef 
and bent the shaft, damaged the hull around the shaft and pushed the rear tip 
of the rudder up through the hull.The bottom of the wing keel is also 
chewed up from grinding on the reef.  That sound of hull grinding over rock is 
now forever seared into my brain.  South Shore yachts actually lists the rudder 
on their site (thanks to the list for making me aware of their C parts), and 
I am hoping there is nothing else damaged that was not obvious.  No one was 
hurt, except my pride and confidence.  Leaving the marina, I now have an 
appreciation for the emotions of people who abandon their floating homes at 
sea.  At least I will hopefully get mine back. 

I have gone over the incident a thousand times trying to understand what 
happened and how I could have prevented it.  I thought I was hyperaware of all 
the hazards in the Fishers Island Sound area and swore that I would never 
ground the boat again after an incident with an unmarked reef during a race a 
few years ago.  I try to race with a priority of safety, fun and speed, in that 
order.  I almost always have crew who are not sailors other than racing with 
me, which I enjoy, but takes some of my focus away from other things.  We had 
spent the day in a long race all over Fishers Island sound.  It was blowing 15+ 
and we had worked very hard to get around the course and the last leg was a 
straight downwind sprint to the finish heading due North toward the CT coast.  
With 3 inexperienced crew I was happy that we were in second place in our class 
and focused on getting to the line.  We crossed the line, then jibed over to 
head back west to parallel the coast to our home port of New London and had 
just taken a deep breath, congratulated the crew when we hit the reef.  It 
turns out that the Race Committee had set the finish line inshore and just East 
of the single offshore buoy marking Horseshoe Reef.  I never saw (or 
recognized) the buoy because it was behind the mainsail as we approached the 
finish and I was looking for the finish line, not other buoys.  By the time we 
jibed, it was essentially over my shoulder.  I did not see the buoy until I 
looked around when we hit the reef and realized where we were.  A hundred yards 
inshore and we would have been fine and a hundred yards offshore and we would 
have seen the buoy and passed the correct side of it.  I think the Race 
Committee deserves some part of the blame for setting the finish line in a 
dangerous location but certainly my lack of awareness of where I was relative 
to dangers (of which there are many in Fishers Island Sound) was the major 
factor.  If I had looked carefully at the chart at any point, I presume I would 
have recognized the danger of the finishing area, but we were closely following 
the lead boat and so our location was not an issue until we finished. I was in 
familiar waters but I just did not recognize precisely where I was in familiar 
waters.  The other boats near us turned East while we turned West so we were 
not following anyone after the turn.  

If anyone has any suggestions, comments or strategies to help prevent this, I 
am all ears.  A moments inattention is all it took and it makes me concerned 
about several factors- age, racing with non-sailor crew, racing in general.   
In our Wednesday night races, we race around the same marks every week, and it 
has taken time, but I now think I know every hazard and am aware of where we 

Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

" Yanmar recommends running the engine full throttle 5 minutes every hour
or 1 hour a day. "

That's exactly what the Yanmar Operating Manual for our motor says.

Ken H.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 at 13:58, Neil Andersen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ya mar recommends running the engine full throttle 5 minutes every hour or
> 1 hour a day.  The want you to heat things up to burn off carbon deposits.
>
> At least what the Service Manager told a group of Island Packet owners at
> their annual rendezvous
>
> Neil Andersen
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
>
> --
> *From:* 30141442600n behalf of
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:47 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Wade Glew
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>
> Ok. So my engine is a Yanmar 2GM20F. I find the vibration "sweet spot" for
> motoring is about 2200 rpm. Sounds like I should be pushing it harder
> trying to find a sweet spot at a higher rpm?  I can't recall what the
> tachometer range is on my boat. I've also had someone mention pushing the
> engine up to a high rpm before shutting it down for what reason I don't
> know. Lastly, I notice truckers never shut off their engines immediately
> after a highway haul. Should I idle my engine before shutting down after a
> long motor.
> Thanks for your thoughts.
> Wade
> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 09:22 Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List, <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Wade,
>>
>> Essentially it means running the engine at relatively high RPMs (I've
>> seen the number to by 85% of full speed) whenever reasonable, in gear and
>> avoiding running the engine solely to charge the batteries.
>>
>> Bruce Whitmore
>> 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Wade Glew via CnC-List 
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Wade Glew 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:09 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>
>> Hi Josh,
>> Being relatively new to the sailboat business can I please ask what you
>> mean by "keeping the engine load as high as possible" with regard to Soot
>> accumulation?
>> Wade
>> Oh Boy C 33 MKII
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 16:24 Josh Muckley via CnC-List, <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> I was pleasantly surprised, that after 5 years of use and no service, the
>> elbow was in no way clogged with soot.  I believe this to be a result of
>> regulatory keeping the engine load as high as possible.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 PM Josh Muckley  wrote:
>>
>> It is original to my ownership (6 years), who knows prior to that.
>> Replaced with "stainless" from ebay.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 4:46 PM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Josh,
>>
>> That’s a nasty hole.  How old is the elbow?  Time for a new one.
>> Standard or stainless?
>>
>> Jake
>>
>> *Jake Brodersen*
>> *C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
>> *Hampton VA*
>> [image: cid:image001.png@01D2F43E.567E4070]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Josh
>> Muckley via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 14, 2018 15:21
>> *To:* C List 
>> *Cc:* Josh Muckley 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F Exhaust riser/goose neck
>>
>> I found some rust blisters on the riser while poking around in the engine
>> the other day.  I had a moment yesterday to do the replacement with parts
>> which I have had for some time.  The rubber exhaust hose was stuck on and a
>> considerable amount of wrestling was required to separate it from the
>> riser.  In the effort it went unnoticed that some of the rust blisters had
>> broken away.  Once I finally got it off and had a chance to inspect I found
>> that the rust had opened up a dime sized hole.  If this had let go
>> unexpectedly I would have started blowing exhaust and water into my engine
>> compartment.  My "what would I have done" thoughts started rolling and I've
>> decided that a tube of epoxy putty would have been my first effort at an
>> emergency repair.
>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1aC6-4V8P3BufZhZsusYFmMlmHknk-Ftv
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Spraying soap into Yanmar turbo

[David Miles via CnC-List]

So do you have water injection on your 2GM20F.
Maybe that should be the next mod this summerlol

David Miles
Impulse
C 30MK2 #115

On July 20, 2018 06:50:56 Morgan Ellis via CnC-List  
wrote:
Be careful to pour the water in slowly and it will work very well. One of 
the tricks used to get more power out of high performance diesel engines is 
to install a water injection system. It works like nitro in a gas engine. 
If have seen pulling match and black exhaust smoke suddenly turns white... 
that is when they hit the water injection.


Morgan Ellis
SV Meandher
30-2 #140

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Re: Stus-List got my shirt Landfall 38

[schiller via CnC-List]

Maritimetees.net 

They have been really responsive to adding new boats t the line up.

Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028
"Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 7/20/2018 2:58 PM, rshibe via CnC-List wrote:

Hey Folks,
I see everyone getting their Tee shirts but somewhere along I missed the 
source. Can someone help me.
Thanks,
Ray Shibe “Stink Dog”  1984 C 41



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Re: Stus-List got my shirt Landfall 38

[rshibe via CnC-List]

Hey Folks,
I see everyone getting their Tee shirts but somewhere along I missed the 
source. Can someone help me. 
Thanks,
Ray Shibe “Stink Dog”  1984 C 41 



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Re: Stus-List got my shirt Landfall 38

[Paul E via CnC-List]

Based on many of the positive comments regarding the shirts from Maritime 
T-Shirt, I asked for a Landfall 38 version.   They now have the Landfall 38 
version available online.   I had the text “Landfall 38” added to the shirt 
back and had “S/V Johanna Rose” added to front under the C logo.  

You can see the mockup of the shirt at the link below.

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2018/07/boat-shirts.html 



-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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Re: Stus-List C flags

[schiller via CnC-List]

Stu sells 9"X19" C Burgees on the cncphotoalbum.com site.  Buy several 
from Stu!


Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028
"Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 7/20/2018 10:01 AM, Rod Stright via CnC-List wrote:


Anyone know where I can gets some C flags 20” x 20” or bigger, quickly?

Rod Stright

Halifax Nova Scotia


 
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Stus-List C flags

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Anyone know where I can gets some C flags 20” x 20” or bigger, quickly?



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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Spraying soap into Yanmar turbo

[Morgan Ellis via CnC-List]

Be careful to pour the water in slowly and it will work very well. One of
the tricks used to get more power out of high performance diesel engines is
to install a water injection system. It works like nitro in a gas engine.
If have seen pulling match and black exhaust smoke suddenly turns white...
that is when they hit the water injection.

Morgan Ellis
SV Meandher
30-2 #140

>
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Stus-List Coolant change in 2QM15

[robert via CnC-List]

Derek:

I have a Yanmar 2GMF.the engine has several 'drains' for the engine 
coolant which will empty by gravity.   Each drain is opened by loosening 
what looks like a 'wing nut' and each drain fitting has a small diameter 
rubber hose attached which is useful to direct the coolant into a 
container for proper disposal when opened.


Very easy job to do if you have the same setup which you should.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32- 84
Halifax, N.S.




On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 6:27 PM Tortuga via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I have a Yanmar 2QM15 with a Sen-Dure heat exchanger. I'd like to
change the coolant. Can I pump out the old?

Thanks

Derek Kennedy
SV Tortuga
C mk1, #553
Ballantyne's Cove, NS

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Re: Stus-List Coolant change in 2QM15

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I did this last year on my westerneke.  There is a how to article on the marine 
how to web site.  Anyway,  I drained the engine because I had to replace the 
hoses going to the water heater heat exchanger.  I didn't know what was in 
there and didn't want to risk mixing 2 different types of antifreeze. 
I disconnected hoses on the front of the engine and used a bucket and one of 
those pumps you attach to a drill to pump clean water out of one bucket into 
another.  The engine has rather low hours and all looked pretty clean.  I 
flushed for a while with tap water then, flushed again with distilled water.  
You never want to leave tap water in any engine.  Then I pumped through the 
antifreeze distilled water mix.  Closed it up and topped it off.  It was 
actually pretty straight forward and took less than an hour. 
Danny 


Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/19/18  6:52 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Josh Muckley  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Coolant change in 2QM15 
The yanmar engines have an engine block drain.  Most of the coolant should come 
out by gravity.  If you have a fresh water heater that is heated by the engine 
you may find it convenient to disconnect or tap one of the lines running to it. 
 You have glycol coolant which "should" be captured and disposed of properly - 
Even the "eco" friendly propylene glycol.
Once the majority of the coolant is out I would flush it with a fresh water 
supply "garden hose".  They also make flush chemical additive which I would use 
after the freshwater flush.  Then flush again with clean.
Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+Solomons, MD 



On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 6:27 PM Tortuga via CnC-List  
wrote:


I have a Yanmar 2QM15 with a Sen-Dure heat exchanger. I'd like to change the 
coolant. Can I pump out the old?
Thanks
Derek KennedySV TortugaC mk1, #553  Ballantyne's Cove, NS



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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Spraying soap into Yanmar turbo

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

That won’t work if you run over construction cones. They melt and the plastic 
hardens up in various places in the engine.
Just FYI
(memories of working for Piedmont Airlines)
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Doug 
Mountjoy via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 12:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Doug Mountjoy
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Spraying soap into Yanmar turbo

At the airline I work for we wash turbine  engines in basicly the same fashion. 
A turbo is a very simple version of a turbine engine.



Doug Mountjoy
Rebecca Leah
LF39
Port Orchard YC, WA.



 Original message 
From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Date: 7/19/18 11:12 (GMT-08:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Spraying soap into Yanmar turbo

I just read this in a Yanmar Manual:

6) Washing the Turbocharger Blower
When engine speed seems sluggish or the exhaust color
poor, the blades of the turbocharger blower may be dirty.
Wash the blower in the following manner.
1. Have ready blower wash (liquid detergent), fresh
water, and a small pitcher.
Blower Wash (4L)
Parts Code:974500-00400
2. Put the clutch in neutral and run the engine at high
speed (2500•3000rpm).
3. Slowly pour approximately 50cc of blower wash into
the turbocharger air intake over a period of about 10
seconds.
4. After about 3 minutes, pour in approximately 50cc of
fresh water in the same manner over a period of about
10 seconds.
5. After operating the engine for about 10 minutes,
check the boost pressure and power output.
If there is no improvement after washing the blower,
repeat the washing process several times.
If there is still no improvement consult your local Yanmar
dealer.

This sounds kind of crazy, spraying soapy water and then water into your intake 
–
Has anyone ever done this or know of anyone who has?

Bill Coleman
C 39 Erie, PA
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