Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

The AC boats of the 1980’s showed us just what difference keel could make.
Keels were so secret they were shrouded with tarps. Now that was really
protecting secrecy, right?  Anyway keels make a difference.  My 35 MKII
could benefit from more ballast. A keel shoe or bulb would be nice but i
have lots of fun and feel safe without it.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 7:37 PM dwight veinot  wrote:

> Alianna is well equipped with a good sail inventory and nice diesel and
> prop and nice creature comforts below but you have a very special 35MKII
> which i believe is an improvement on mine.  Be happy and keep her
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 6:02 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps but not all 'new' things last or displace others- Edsels, New
>> Coke, push button transmissions in cars, self-cleaning bathrooms, are a few
>> that come to mind.
>>
>> OTOH, the foiling cats are great fun to watch in anticipation of a crash
>> of some sort--sort of like Formula-1 or NASCAR. However, IMHO I doubt many
>> sailors, even racers, would actually try to 'sail' a foiler, let alone buy
>> one!
>>
>> But to each his own!
>>
>> Charlie Nelson
>> Water Phantom
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Don Kern via CnC-List 
>> To: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>> Cc: Don Kern 
>> Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 4:44 pm
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats
>>
>> I bet that is similar to what was said 1900's when the America Cup boats
>> went to cross cut sails and the Marconi rig. Then again when they went from
>> the 12 meters to the IACC boats, never mind the foiling cats. "just saying"
>> own Fireball for 39 years
>> Don Kern
>> Docent, Herreshoff Marine Museum
>> Fireball C Mk2
>> Bristol, RI
>>
>> On 1/28/2019 7:27 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> I too like the 12 meters, but I would like the cup to revert to J-Class
>> boats even more.
>> Catamarans with wing sails just don’t do anything for me.
>> (thread creep – when I was at flight school someone combined an old Hobie
>> Cat and a wing from the aircraft junkyard into an early version of one of
>> these LOL )
>>
>> Joe
>> Coquina
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *schiller via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:55 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* schiller
>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List AC75 boats
>>
>> The Parker Hannifin Division that I retired from was making aircraft
>> grade axial piston pumps for the last AC boats.  We provided electric motor
>> pumps for the practice boats but the race boats are mechanically driven.
>> The hydraulics were for the foils and winches.  The grinders are actually
>> driving the two speed pumps.a  I retired just before we delivered the race
>> units.
>>
>> The previous division that I worked for also made Electro Hydraulic Servo
>> Valves (EHSV) for formula 1 race cars to control suspension and fuel
>> delivery.
>>
>> Interesting work but I still prefer the old 12 meters and actually having
>> to sail the boat.
>>
>> Neil Schiller
>> 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
>> Whitehall, Michigan
>> WLYC
>>
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Alianna is well equipped with a good sail inventory and nice diesel and
prop and nice creature comforts below but you have a very special 35MKII
which i believe is an improvement on mine.  Be happy and keep her

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 6:02 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Perhaps but not all 'new' things last or displace others- Edsels, New
> Coke, push button transmissions in cars, self-cleaning bathrooms, are a few
> that come to mind.
>
> OTOH, the foiling cats are great fun to watch in anticipation of a crash
> of some sort--sort of like Formula-1 or NASCAR. However, IMHO I doubt many
> sailors, even racers, would actually try to 'sail' a foiler, let alone buy
> one!
>
> But to each his own!
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Don Kern via CnC-List 
> To: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
> Cc: Don Kern 
> Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 4:44 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats
>
> I bet that is similar to what was said 1900's when the America Cup boats
> went to cross cut sails and the Marconi rig. Then again when they went from
> the 12 meters to the IACC boats, never mind the foiling cats. "just saying"
> own Fireball for 39 years
> Don Kern
> Docent, Herreshoff Marine Museum
> Fireball C Mk2
> Bristol, RI
>
> On 1/28/2019 7:27 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I too like the 12 meters, but I would like the cup to revert to J-Class
> boats even more.
> Catamarans with wing sails just don’t do anything for me.
> (thread creep – when I was at flight school someone combined an old Hobie
> Cat and a wing from the aircraft junkyard into an early version of one of
> these LOL )
>
> Joe
> Coquina
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *schiller via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:55 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* schiller
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List AC75 boats
>
> The Parker Hannifin Division that I retired from was making aircraft grade
> axial piston pumps for the last AC boats.  We provided electric motor pumps
> for the practice boats but the race boats are mechanically driven.  The
> hydraulics were for the foils and winches.  The grinders are actually
> driving the two speed pumps.a  I retired just before we delivered the race
> units.
>
> The previous division that I worked for also made Electro Hydraulic Servo
> Valves (EHSV) for formula 1 race cars to control suspension and fuel
> delivery.
>
> Interesting work but I still prefer the old 12 meters and actually having
> to sail the boat.
>
> Neil Schiller
> 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
> Whitehall, Michigan
> WLYC
>
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Re: Stus-List Can recommend it

[Stu via CnC-List]

I think Allan’s email account has been hacked and he did not send it.  Do 
yourself a favor and delete it.

Stu

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Re: Stus-List Can recommend it

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Obviously a spam email.  He probably got hacked

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019, 5:17 PM Wade Glew via CnC-List  What in the world does this have to do with a CNC sailboat list?
> Wade
> Oh Boy C 33
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019, 14:39 Allan Rheaume via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
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>> http://credible.super-40.com
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Allan Rheaume
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Re: Stus-List Can recommend it

[Wade Glew via CnC-List]

What in the world does this have to do with a CNC sailboat list?
Wade
Oh Boy C 33

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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

Perhaps but not all 'new' things last or displace others- Edsels, New Coke, 
push button transmissions in cars, self-cleaning bathrooms, are a few that come 
to mind.
OTOH, the foiling cats are great fun to watch in anticipation of a crash of 
some sort--sort of like Formula-1 or NASCAR. However, IMHO I doubt many 
sailors, even racers, would actually try to 'sail' a foiler, let alone buy one!
But to each his own!

Charlie NelsonWater Phantom


-Original Message-
From: Don Kern via CnC-List 
To: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
Cc: Don Kern 
Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats

 I bet that is similar to what was said 1900's when the America Cup boats went 
to cross cut sails and the Marconi rig. Then again when they went from the 12 
meters to the IACC boats, never mind the foiling cats. "just saying" own 
Fireball for 39 years Don Kern
 Docent, Herreshoff Marine Museum
 Fireball C Mk2
 Bristol, RI 
  On 1/28/2019 7:27 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:
  
 
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{} #yiv9504981497  I too like the 12 meters, but I would like the cup to revert 
to J-Class boats even more. Catamarans with wing sails just don’t do anything 
for me. (thread creep – when I was at flight school someone combined an old 
Hobie Cat and a wing from the aircraft junkyard into an early version of one of 
these LOL )    Joe Coquina      From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of schiller via CnC-List
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:55 PM
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: schiller
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List AC75 boats  The Parker Hannifin Division 
that I retired from was making aircraft grade axial piston pumps for the last 
AC boats.  We provided electric motor pumps for the practice boats but the race 
boats are mechanically driven.  The hydraulics were for the foils and winches.  
The grinders are actually driving the two speed pumps.a  I retired just before 
we delivered the race units.
 
 The previous division that I worked for also made Electro Hydraulic Servo 
Valves (EHSV) for formula 1 race cars to control suspension and fuel delivery.
 
 Interesting work but I still prefer the old 12 meters and actually having to 
sail the boat.
 
 Neil Schiller
 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
 Whitehall, Michigan
 WLYC  
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats

[Don Kern via CnC-List]

I bet that is similar to what was said 1900's when the America Cup boats 
went to cross cut sails and the Marconi rig. Then again when they went 
from the 12 meters to the IACC boats, never mind the foiling cats. "just 
saying" own Fireball for 39 years


Don Kern
Docent, Herreshoff Marine Museum
Fireball C Mk2
Bristol, RI


On 1/28/2019 7:27 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:


I too like the 12 meters, but I would like the cup to revert to 
J-Class boats even more.


Catamarans with wing sails just don’t do anything for me.

(thread creep – when I was at flight school someone combined an old 
Hobie Cat and a wing from the aircraft junkyard into an early version 
of one of these LOL )


Joe

Coquina

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
*schiller via CnC-List

*Sent:* Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:55 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* schiller
*Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List AC75 boats

The Parker Hannifin Division that I retired from was making aircraft 
grade axial piston pumps for the last AC boats.  We provided electric 
motor pumps for the practice boats but the race boats are mechanically 
driven.  The hydraulics were for the foils and winches.  The grinders 
are actually driving the two speed pumps.a  I retired just before we 
delivered the race units.


The previous division that I worked for also made Electro Hydraulic 
Servo Valves (EHSV) for formula 1 race cars to control suspension and 
fuel delivery.


Interesting work but I still prefer the old 12 meters and actually 
having to sail the boat.


Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC


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Re: Stus-List Can recommend it

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I prefer what I call the Gulf Stream diet.  Five-6 days at sea with some
seasickness thrown in, and I can lose 5 pounds.

Joel

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:33 PM robert via CnC-List 
wrote:

> My Malwarebytes 'anti' won't allow me to open the linkand if it's a
> diet pill advertisement, I got the right anti software.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
>
> On 2019-01-28 5:21 p.m., dwight veinot via CnC-List wrote:
>
> That’s not a healthy way to lose weight. Good diet, exercise and drinking
> lots of water much healthier lifestyle compared to taking any magic pill.
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:39 PM Allan Rheaume via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> http://credible.super-40.com
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Stus-List Can recommend it

[robert via CnC-List]

My Malwarebytes 'anti' won't allow me to open the linkand if it's a 
diet pill advertisement, I got the right anti software.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 2019-01-28 5:21 p.m., dwight veinot via CnC-List wrote:
That’s not a healthy way to lose weight. Good diet, exercise and 
drinking lots of water much healthier lifestyle compared to taking any 
magic pill.


On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:39 PM Allan Rheaume via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


http://credible.super-40.com 

Allan Rheaume




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Re: Stus-List Can recommend it

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

That’s not a healthy way to lose weight. Good diet, exercise and drinking
lots of water much healthier lifestyle compared to taking any magic pill.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:39 PM Allan Rheaume via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> http://credible.super-40.com
>
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>
>
>
> Allan Rheaume
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Stus-List purchase for tiller

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Here is something interesting: a rope purchase for a tiller. 

This one is on Agnes, a Bristol Channel Pilot Cutter.  This idea from the past 
would help when using the emergency tillers on our boats.   The picture shows a 
lady using the purchase and steering with one hand.


https://www.getmyboat.com/trips/BN999xNo/



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Re: Stus-List Some Sunday morning reading. Rogue Wave, the whole story.

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

These kinds of stories make me question why I think I would like to experience 
blue water sailing.  One thing I noticed that I believe the crew really screwed 
up.  Scottish porridge is one of my favorite breakfasts (especially on cold 
mornings) and I look forward to it whenever I am in Scotland/UK.  Made well, it 
is a treat.  So whomever made the porridge must have not known what they were 
doing.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Jan 27, 2019, at 7:04 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Good morning.  Grab a coffee (or two), sit back, relax, and read a little 
> about the storied C's of the past.
> 
> Many of you have likely seen the much abridged version of this story on Stu's 
> C Photo album.  This is the full, six-page eyewitness story, from Sail 
> Magazine, published back in August of 1976.  There are some sections of this 
> that are hard to read, this wasn't a pleasure trip once the Rogue Wave came 
> through.
> 
> This week's installment: 
> https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/roguewave-by-aulan-fitzpatrick-360.html 
> 
> RogueWave by Aulan Fitzpatrick
> 360-degree roll sweeps
> Sorcery clean
> 
> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
> C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
> 
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Stus-List AC75 boats

[robert via CnC-List]

On 2019-01-27 6:55 p.m., schiller via CnC-List wrote:  "Interesting work 
but I still prefer the old 12 meters and actually having to sail the boat."


Neil, I 100% agree with youthese boats without keels, as they are 
called boats, in my mind, don't sail, they foil or fly. Here's what 
sailing was all about:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfzSbsXmlJs

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.





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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I too like the 12 meters, but I would like the cup to revert to J-Class boats 
even more.
Catamarans with wing sails just don’t do anything for me.
(thread creep – when I was at flight school someone combined an old Hobie Cat 
and a wing from the aircraft junkyard into an early version of one of these LOL 
)

Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of schiller via 
CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:55 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: schiller
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List AC75 boats

The Parker Hannifin Division that I retired from was making aircraft grade 
axial piston pumps for the last AC boats.  We provided electric motor pumps for 
the practice boats but the race boats are mechanically driven.  The hydraulics 
were for the foils and winches.  The grinders are actually driving the two 
speed pumps.a  I retired just before we delivered the race units.

The previous division that I worked for also made Electro Hydraulic Servo 
Valves (EHSV) for formula 1 race cars to control suspension and fuel delivery.

Interesting work but I still prefer the old 12 meters and actually having to 
sail the boat.

Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
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Re: Stus-List Some Sunday morning reading. Rogue Wave, the whole story.

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Thank you for that.  I did see the video last week, somewhere on Sailing
anarchy. Strange wave shape.

The link you provided seemed to require a long on.  Here is a different one
with the video and background story:
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/01/oxford-scientists-successfully-recreated-a-famous-rogue-wave-in-the-lab/

Ken H.

On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 13:35, nausetbeach--- via CnC-List <
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> Researchers from the Universities of Oxford and Edinburgh in the UK have
> just recently recreated a “rogue wave” in a tank at the University of
> Edinburgh for the first time under laboratory conditions.
>
>
>
> Interesting article and video.
>
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>
>
> http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2019-01-23-famous-freak-wave-recreated-lab-mirrors-hokusai’s-‘great-wave’#
> 
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> Links to their paper and the video at the bottom of the page.
>
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Ken
> Heaton via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 27, 2019 7:04 AM
> *To:* cnc-list 
> *Cc:* Ken Heaton 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Some Sunday morning reading. Rogue Wave, the whole
> story.
>
>
>
> Good morning.  Grab a coffee (or two), sit back, relax, and read a little
> about the storied C's of the past.
>
>
>
> Many of you have likely seen the much abridged version of this story on
> Stu's C Photo album.  This is the full, six-page eyewitness story, from
> Sail Magazine, published back in August of 1976.  There are some sections
> of this that are hard to read, this wasn't a pleasure trip once the Rogue
> Wave came through.
>
>
>
> This week's installment:
> https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/roguewave-by-aulan-fitzpatrick-360.html
>
> *RogueWave* by Aulan Fitzpatrick
>
> *360-degree roll sweeps*
>
> *Sorcery clean*
>
>
>
> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
> C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>
>
>
> https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html
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