Re: Stus-List Fresh Water Hookup?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

My 37+ came with a fresh water regulator mounted in the stbd lazaret but it
was clear that it had been disconnected year ago.  I believe that the PO
had made arrangements to fill the tanks from this connection as well as
supply the fixtures.  I removed most of the vestigial fittings, pipes,
tubes and hoses.  As others have said.  If you're close enough to the dock
that you can hook up semi-perminent then you are also close enough to just
fill the tanks periodically and at considerably reduced risk.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 11:18 AM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
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> Listers,
>
> Has anyone ever installed some kind of fresh-water connection on their C
> to use a dock’s fresh water system instead of the water tanks? And, if so,
> how did you do it?
>
> Just curious about a possible future project….
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
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Re: Stus-List Fresh Water Hookup?

[Rob Ball via CnC-List]

Edd,
My 34 came to me with a proper connection fitting installed in the cockpit wall 
. . . .
Systems like that are very common in RV's so you should have no problem finding 
the needed parts . . . . .
They are a bit scary on a boat of course, since you can visualize how a hook up 
like that could send you boat to the bottom . . . .
Rob Ball.C 34



On Jun 21, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Edd Schillay 
mailto:e...@schillay.com>> wrote:

Listers,

Has anyone ever installed some kind of fresh-water connection on their C to 
use a dock’s fresh water system instead of the water tanks? And, if so, how did 
you do it?

Just curious about a possible future project….

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay







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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 161, Issue 73

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Edd

My PO never used the tanks and just used a hose hookup next to the electric 
hook up under the hump.  I figured it was a standard connection on our boats.. 
guess not.

 I tried connecting a hose to it to see if it worked, but never got it working.
 
So, I guess my answer is,  no idea.

Tom B 

Typoed from my iPhone

Tom Buscaglia
Alera 1990 C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
O 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660
Skype - thombusc



> On Jun 21, 2019, at 8:27 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Has anyone ever installed some kind of fresh-water connection on their C to 
> use a dock?s fresh water system instead of the water tanks? And, if so, how 
> did you do it? 
> 
> Just curious about a possible future project?. 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay


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Re: Stus-List Fresh Water Hookup?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Edd,

During Touche's initial refurbishment 20 years ago, I installed a dock
water inlet.  I've never used it for reasons stated in other replies.  I
would never leave it active if I was not on the boat.

To answer your question, I added a tee in the line going to the cockpit
shower and installed the inlet in the outside of the cockpit coaming.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 10:18 AM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> Has anyone ever installed some kind of fresh-water connection on their C
> to use a dock’s fresh water system instead of the water tanks? And, if so,
> how did you do it?
>
> Just curious about a possible future project….
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
>
>
>
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>
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Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

[Don Kern via CnC-List]

Shawn

Yes, the traveler is still on the aft edge of the bridgedeck.  Of note, 
I still have not added traveler tackle system (blocks/jam cleats) 
because of trying to figure out how to remove the old traveler to get 
new cars mounted.  Instead we rig a line to the traveler/mainsheet 
shackle and run it athwart-ship to the forward cockpit winch.  The main 
sheet handler uses the winch to run the traveler to keep the lee rail 
dry.  We rarely use the main sheet once it is set for the wind.; ie when 
we run out of traveler in a gust.  The main sheet has a gross/fine trim 
cascading system (4:1 gross-trim and 16:1 fine-tune).  Also added a hard 
boom vang to get more control of the boom, prevents the boom from 
dipping thru the cockpit in an unintentional jibe, and removes the 
requirement for a topping lift when the main is not hosted.  When 
cruising, the boat handles and is balanced under only the 138% roller 
furl (no main).


Don Kern
/Fireball /C 35 Mk2
Bristol RI

On 6/20/2019 10:36 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:

Hi Ron,

Interesting about your 35-2 setup. With such a short boom, is the 
traveller still on the bridgedeck? Our main is about 18" short of the 
boom end, but I assume it's the stock 13.5' boom. The headsails are 
totally custom: a solent rig inner furler with a smaller jib (marked 
95%, but due to stay moved aft, it does extend beyond mast), and the 
main furler having a 135 or so. We've only had the boat a month, so I 
haven't had time to measure the sails. In winds under 10-12, running 
the larger jib gains me about 1 knot of speed, but the hassle of 
having to furl on each tack means we run mostly the smaller jib, which 
can easily push the boat to 7+ knots in decent winds. Still practicing 
different sail options in varying conditions, but it seems whenever 
we're actually trying to get somewhere, we're either upwind in a stiff 
(20+) breeze, or have no wind at all :)

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com 
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


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Re: Stus-List Fresh Water Hookup?

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

I set up a manifold that allows me to use dock water, use tank water, and fill 
the water tanks while on dock water.

Let me know if you want pictures.

Neil Andersen
1982 C 32, FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Edd Schillay via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:18 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay
Subject: Stus-List Fresh Water Hookup?

Listers,

Has anyone ever installed some kind of fresh-water connection on their C to 
use a dock’s fresh water system instead of the water tanks? And, if so, how did 
you do it?

Just curious about a possible future project….

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay







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Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

[Don Kern via CnC-List]

Pete,

What I called the destroyed #3 was a jib-top (high cut clew, about 120%, 
on the boat we called it "#3 reacher") It had limited use off the wind 
and we only used in on very long reaches, which only occur in off-shore 
racing.  Also had a tall boy that came with the boat (1980), used it for 
a few seasons, but like the jib-top was only suitable for long spinnaker 
runs because of the hassle of setting the sail as a inner staysail and 
running more sheets/blocks.  However, with the short boom which makes my 
sail plan more like a cutter I am reconsidering - need to consider PHRF 
rules/ penalties and speak to sailmakers (plenty of those on 
Narragansett Bay).


Don Kern
/Fireball /C 35 Mk2
Bristol RI

On 6/20/2019 9:47 PM, Pete Shelquist wrote:


I’m curious how many have and use a Jib-Top?  Worth it?

*From:*CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Don 
Kern via CnC-List

*Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 8:17 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Don Kern 
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

Ron

Fireball carries four head sails when racing each has a cut and weight 
appropriate to the apparent wind: light #1 150% (3-12 kts), #2 135% 
(12-20 kts),  #3 120%(18-28 kts) and  #4 85% (survival). The main has 
only two reefs, the lower reef points are placed between where a 1st 
and 2nd reef would normally be and a the upper a little above the 
position of a normal second reef.  The boat was optimized for SORC 
racing in the mid 70s by C and has a boom 2 ft shorter than normal 
(11.5 ft vs normal 13.5ft), thus I do not put a reef in until 15+ kts 
with a #2 flying.  We throw in (literally) the second reef with a #3 
when the boat is laying over too far. I find the boat feathers up 
nicely in heavy air and try to keep the toerail out of the water by 
easing the main down on the main track in gust.  Always trying adjust 
the sails to point and keep the boat on its feet (rail out of the water).


Cruising, we use a 138% roller furl and a main with three sets of reef 
points.


Seems like a lot of sails, but I've had the boat from 1980, so you do 
get a collection.   However, had to get a new #3 and #4 this year 
since I destroyed the 20+ yrs old #4 and had the old #3 de-laminate.


Don Kern
/Fireball /C 35 Mk2
Bristol RI

On 6/20/2019 4:37 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:

That sure seems to be true and I wonder why???  Are we just being
too cautious when we start with a no.2 or when we drop to the
no.3?  Or is there really no need ever for a no. 2?

Although cloth density might make a difference if our no. 1 is
really for light air.

Ron

Wild Cheri

C 30-1

STL

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019, 03:29:55 PM CDT, Dennis C. via CnC-List
  wrote:

For those of us race and change sails, one of my racer buddies
told me you never change down from a #1 to a #2. You always drop
to your #3. In my years racing since he told me that, I’ve come to
agree with him.

You might start with a #2 but you rarely change down to one.

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


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Re: Stus-List Fresh Water Hookup?

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hi Edd,
Unless you're thinking of living on the boat, I would recommend against an 
active connection of water to the boat.  We find that even if we stay on the 
boat for a week, we can stretch our use to not draw down the tanks. This is 
even including taking showers on the boat. 

 I have some concerns about having the boat's water system constantly - I keep 
envisioning a hose breaking and flooding the boat while I hope the bilge pump 
can keep up...
Just my $.02 worth,  

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Friday, June 21, 2019, 11:18:40 AM EDT, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Listers,
Has anyone ever installed some kind of fresh-water connection on their C to 
use a dock’s fresh water system instead of the water tanks? And, if so, how did 
you do it? 
Just curious about a possible future project…. 

All the best,
Edd

Edd M. Schillay


 



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Re: Stus-List Fresh Water Hookup?

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Edd, its called a hose...(just kidding)
 
Richards/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River; at flood stage yet again...
 
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2019 11:18 am
Subject: Stus-List Fresh Water Hookup?

Listers,
Has anyone ever installed some kind of fresh-water connection on their C to 
use a dock’s fresh water system instead of the water tanks? And, if so, how did 
you do it? 
Just curious about a possible future project…. 

All the best,
Edd

Edd M. Schillay


 



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Stus-List Fresh Water Hookup?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

Has anyone ever installed some kind of fresh-water connection on their C to 
use a dock’s fresh water system instead of the water tanks? And, if so, how did 
you do it? 

Just curious about a possible future project…. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay








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Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Alianna, my 35 MKII is setup up similar to Fireball with the high aspect
ratio mainsail, ie shorter boom and she has a similar compliment of sails,
mostly all Sobstad including a very light 162 percent genny and 2
spinnakers a staysail and a blooper. Nowadays most of those sails stay in
dry storage in my basement and for cruising and single handed i have an 8
oz 135 furling headsail and loose foot main with 2 reef options. For best
pointing i also feather up and lower the main on the traveller to keep the
leeward rail dry which means below 23 degrees heel angle.   All control
lines are lead to the cockpit so no need to leave the cockpit to reef when
conditions dictate. If i recall correctly Fireball has added ballast so she
will be stiffer than Alianna and will likely point better. I won’t modify
Alianna at this stage but i believe added ballast such as provided by a
keel shoe would make her a better boat all around. It takes a Full
compliment of very skilled crew to use the full sail inventory effectively
and to provide weight on the windward rail when going hard to weather.

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 10:20 PM Don Kern via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ron
>
> Fireball carries four head sails when racing each has a cut and weight
> appropriate to the apparent wind: light #1 150% (3-12 kts), #2 135% (12-20
> kts),  #3 120%(18-28 kts) and  #4 85% (survival). The main has only two
> reefs, the lower reef points are placed between where a 1st and 2nd reef
> would normally be and a the upper a little above the position of a normal
> second reef.  The boat was optimized for SORC racing in the mid 70s by C
> and has a boom 2 ft shorter than normal (11.5 ft vs normal 13.5ft), thus I
> do not put a reef in until 15+ kts with a #2 flying.  We throw in
> (literally) the second reef with a #3 when the boat is laying over too far.
> I find the boat feathers up nicely in heavy air and try to keep the toerail
> out of the water by easing the main down on the main track in gust.  Always
> trying adjust the sails to point and keep the boat on its feet (rail out of
> the water).
>
> Cruising, we use a 138% roller furl and a main with three sets of reef
> points.
>
> Seems like a lot of sails, but I've had the boat from 1980, so you do get
> a collection.   However, had to get a new #3 and #4 this year since I
> destroyed the 20+ yrs old #4 and had the old #3 de-laminate.
> Don Kern
> *Fireball *C 35 Mk2
> Bristol RI
>
>
>
> On 6/20/2019 4:37 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:
>
> That sure seems to be true and I wonder why???  Are we just being too
> cautious when we start with a no.2 or when we drop to the no.3?  Or is
> there really no need ever for a no. 2?
> Although cloth density might make a difference if our no. 1 is really for
> light air.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C 30-1
> STL
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2019, 03:29:55 PM CDT, Dennis C. via CnC-List
>   wrote:
>
>
> For those of us race and change sails, one of my racer buddies told me you
> never change down from a #1 to a #2. You always drop to your #3. In my
> years racing since he told me that, I’ve come to agree with him.
>
> You might start with a #2 but you rarely change down to one.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touché 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
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