Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

If a rigid vang is in your way, potentially a Boomkicker would work better (it 
arches up, so it provides more room). It works, more or less the same way.

Marek

From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Richard Bush via CnC-List
Sent: 26 June, 2019 22:44
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Richard Bush 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

John, I have a rigid vang on my 37...no issues, except that you can't open the 
mid cabin Hatch open unless the boom is off center...but we don't do that very 
often anyway; I do not race

Richard
s/v Bushmark 4: 1985 C 37; Ohio River, Mile 584; river still high...

Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


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Sent: Wed, Jun 26, 2019 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?
Rick,
I believe at one point I was told this would not work on Halcyon? 1982 - 37  
But I would love to have the solid Vang! Maybe I need the customer bracket for 
clearances?
John Conklin
S/V Halcyon

On Jun 26, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
+2 on the Garhauer rigid vang.

I have one on each of my boats…. Getting rid of the verdamte topping lift is 
such a wonderful thing, and the Garhauer vang is such a bargain. Guido made 
custom brackets for the mast base and boom for each of the vangs – included in 
the price. The one on the 25 was bought about 1996 and the one on the 38 about 
2004.


Rick Brass
Washington, NC



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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 4:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

Ditto. Very happy with mine had it for more than 9 years.



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 Original message 
From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 2019-06-25 12:37 (GMT-04:00)
To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Randy Stafford 
mailto:randal.staff...@icloud.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

I bought a rigid vang for my 30 MK I from Garhauer three years ago for $495. 
I’ve been happy with it.

Cheers,
Randy

On Jun 25, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Listers,

My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I’m looking to do a replacement. 
Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 37-40’ range that won’t 
break the bank?

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY
Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's 
Log











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Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 John, I have a rigid vang on my 37...no issues, except that you can't open the 
mid cabin Hatch open unless the boom is off center...but we don't do that very 
often anyway; I do not race
 
Richard
 s/v Bushmark 4: 1985 C 37; Ohio River, Mile 584; river still high...

Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: John Conklin 
Sent: Wed, Jun 26, 2019 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

Rick, I believe at one point I was told this would not work on Halcyon? 1982 - 
37  But I would love to have the solid Vang! Maybe I need the customer bracket 
for clearances?

John Conklin S/V Halcyon 
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  I have one on each of my boats…. Getting rid of the verdamte topping lift is 
such a wonderful thing, and the Garhauer vang is such a bargain. Guido made 
custom brackets for the mast base and boom for each of the vangs – included in 
the price. The one on the 25 was bought about 1996 and the one on the 38 about 
2004.       Rick Brass Washington, NC          From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of jhnelson24 via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 4:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: jhnelson24 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?    Ditto. Very happy with mine had it 
for more than 9 years.           Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.    
 Original message  From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
 Date: 2019-06-25 12:37 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list 
 Cc: Randy Stafford  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?    I bought a rigid vang for my 30 MK I 
from Garhauer three years ago for $495. I’ve been happy with it.    Cheers, 
Randy 

 
On Jun 25, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
wrote:    Listers,    My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I’m looking 
to do a replacement. Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 
37-40’ range that won’t break the bank?  
All the best,    Edd       Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise 
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY  Venice 
Yacht Club | Venice, FL    Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log    




        


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Re: Stus-List Block Island's Great Salt Pond - Town Mooring or Dock Reservation?

[David Risch via CnC-List]

And holding ground is not great with deepish anchoring waters.   Get the slip...

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Block Island's Great Salt Pond - Town Mooring or Dock 
Reservation?

Tom,

I second Edd's comments. Go for a slip. Choice is limited - many of the slips 
are too shallow.

When we lived in Connecticut, Block was the most fun part of our summer cruise. 
Rather than deal with the uncertainty of finding a mooring, we would book a 
"slip" at Champlin's. I use the term slip advisedly, because Champlin's pile 
the boats in, and you will inevitably find yourself rafted 3 deep. However, 
that is all part of the fun. The place is a summer-long party (80% power 
boaters), with a bar by the fuel dock, music, pizza, ice-cream, cinema, pool. 
Really a lot of fun - and that is before you even leave the marina.

If you have an extra couple of days, Cuttyhunk is about 35 miles further. The 
"anti-Block". Well worth the visit.

Damian Greene

Sabre 38 Freefall
Bass Harbor, Maine
(previously C 34)

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Re: Stus-List Block Island's Great Salt Pond - Town Mooring or Dock Reservation?

[damian.greene--- via CnC-List]

Tom,
I second Edd's comments. Go for a slip. Choice is limited - many of the slips 
are too shallow.
When we lived in Connecticut, Block was the most fun part of our summer cruise. 
Rather than deal with the uncertainty of finding a mooring, we would book a 
"slip" at Champlin's. I use the term slip advisedly, because Champlin's pile 
the boats in, and you will inevitably find yourself rafted 3 deep. However, 
that is all part of the fun. The place is a summer-long party (80% power 
boaters), with a bar by the fuel dock, music, pizza, ice-cream, cinema, pool. 
Really a lot of fun - and that is before you even leave the marina.
If you have an extra couple of days, Cuttyhunk is about 35 miles further. The 
"anti-Block". Well worth the visit.
Damian Greene
Sabre 38 FreefallBass Harbor, Maine(previously C 34)

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Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Rick,
I believe at one point I was told this would not work on Halcyon? 1982 - 37  
But I would love to have the solid Vang! Maybe I need the customer bracket for 
clearances?

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon

On Jun 26, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

+2 on the Garhauer rigid vang.

I have one on each of my boats…. Getting rid of the verdamte topping lift is 
such a wonderful thing, and the Garhauer vang is such a bargain. Guido made 
custom brackets for the mast base and boom for each of the vangs – included in 
the price. The one on the 25 was bought about 1996 and the one on the 38 about 
2004.


Rick Brass
Washington, NC



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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 4:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

Ditto. Very happy with mine had it for more than 9 years.



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 Original message 
From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 2019-06-25 12:37 (GMT-04:00)
To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Randy Stafford 
mailto:randal.staff...@icloud.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

I bought a rigid vang for my 30 MK I from Garhauer three years ago for $495. 
I’ve been happy with it.

Cheers,
Randy


On Jun 25, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Listers,

My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I’m looking to do a replacement. 
Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 37-40’ range that won’t 
break the bank?

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY
Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's 
Log












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Re: Stus-List Block Island's Great Salt Pond - Town Mooring or Dock Reservation?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Tom,

I understand that moorings can sometimes be hard to obtain, especially on a 
weekend. As Neil pointed out, there is  no reservation system. 

Plus, depending on how many of your crew is coming on the cruise, they may 
actually prefer being dockside at a marina, with easy access to showers, shore 
power, and everything else that Block Island has to offer. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY 
Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 











On Jun 26, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Thomas Delaney via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hi Listers,

My crew is demanding that I give them a break from racing so we are planning 
for our first cruise, heading up Long Island Sound to Newport and Block Island, 
next month. I've arranged dock space at the navy base in Newport, but I'm still 
working out the details for the stop at Block Island.

We'd be arriving on a Sunday afternoon and staying overnight. Does anyone know 
what the town mooring situation in the Great Salt Pond is like? Would it be 
better to forget about the moorings and make a reservation now at one of the 
marinas instead? 

My worry is that all the town moorings will be occupied, the docks'll be full, 
and we'll have to set an anchor for the night. My anchor tackle is geared 
towards racing rather than cruising (150 ft of nylon rode with a short section 
of rubberized chain and a Fortress) so I'd like to avoid that.

Thanks for any advice or thoughts you may have!

Best,
Tom

--- 
Snow Goose
'73 C 35-1
City Island, NY

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Re: Stus-List Never gets old

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

Edd, I'm looking forward to seeing her in person!Bruce Sent from my Verizon, 
Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 Date: 6/26/19  3:38 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edd Schillay  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Never gets old Marek,As someone who named his boat after a science 
fiction spaceship, paid sailmakers extra to put “NCC-1701-B” on his sails, 
frequently corrects other boaters when they think James T. Kirk commanded the 
Enterprise-B, installed a light-up cylindrical multi-colored Bluetooth speaker 
in the main cabin and named it the Warp Core, and who used to award Starfleet 
officer ranks to his racing crew, i object to being called a “big kid”. 
All the best,EddEdd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC 37+ | Sail 
No: NCC-1701-BCity Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY Venice Yacht Club | 
Venice, FLStarship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Jun 26, 2019, at 2:48 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 wrote:Aren’t we all big kids? Marek From: CnC-List On 
Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-ListSent: 26 June, 2019 13:20To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Stus-List 
Never gets old I'm waxing Touche' and the Navy Blue Angels are practicing 
overhead.  Touche's Pensacola slip is in Bayou Chico just a few miles north of 
their home base, Pensacola Naval Air Station. I grew up across Bayou Grande 
from the base.  Watched them as a kid.  Never gets old.  Never. We'll be 
anchored in Santa Rosa Sound July 13 when they do their Pensacola Beach show. 
Awesome event. Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, 
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Re: Stus-List Never gets old

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Marek,

As someone who named his boat after a science fiction spaceship, paid 
sailmakers extra to put “NCC-1701-B” on his sails, frequently corrects other 
boaters when they think James T. Kirk commanded the Enterprise-B, installed a 
light-up cylindrical multi-colored Bluetooth speaker in the main cabin and 
named it the Warp Core, and who used to award Starfleet officer ranks to his 
racing crew, i object to being called a “big kid”. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY 
Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 











On Jun 26, 2019, at 2:48 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Aren’t we all big kids?
 
Marek
 
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Subject: Stus-List Never gets old
 
I'm waxing Touche' and the Navy Blue Angels are practicing overhead.  Touche's 
Pensacola slip is in Bayou Chico just a few miles north of their home base, 
Pensacola Naval Air Station.
 
I grew up across Bayou Grande from the base.  Watched them as a kid.  Never 
gets old.  Never.
 
We'll be anchored in Santa Rosa Sound July 13 when they do their Pensacola 
Beach show. Awesome event.
 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line

[Morgan Ellis via CnC-List]

whipping...

LOL, pardon the auto-misspelling app!

"The beatings shall continue, until morale improves"

On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 14:23, Rod Stright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Locking wiping, whipping?
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Morgan
> Ellis via CnC-List
> *Sent:* June-26-19 3:04 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Morgan Ellis 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line
>
>
>
> The C 115 that I used to crew on had the same issue, tried smaller jaws
> in the clutch, which helped but not much. In the end, what worked was
> adding the second core to the 5' of halyard where the clutch needs to grab.
> On that boat, we also removed some core from the tail end of the halyard,
> which made feeding thru clutches easier. If you are doing this remember to
> add some locking wiping to keep everything in place. On the J35 I race on
> now we actually added a second clutch inline for the main and jib halyards,
> this helps but when it is really blowing we still take the halyards to a
> horn cleat as well (but no locking turn).
>
>
>
> Morgan Ellis
>
> S/V Meandher 30-2 #140
>
> Thunder Bay, ON
>
>
>
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 08:36, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Another thought is a horn or cam cleat aft of the clutches.  J boats all
> have cam cleats.  Our Frers has a horn cleat.  On windy days our main and
> jib halyards will slip if this is not used.  On the C 115 we would lose 2
> feet of hoist on main if we did not tie off the halyard somehow.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
> Halifax
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
> Gilchrest via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:24 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Chuck Gilchrest
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line
>
>
>
> Before you bulk up your Halyards or change to a rope with a more
> aggressive cover, it would be good to know if the high tech but slippery
> halyard line is:
>
> A. New to the boat?
>
> B. If yes to the above, is it properly sized for the clutch?
>
> C. If old, is there visible wear on the cover or signs of non-recoverable
> compression where the clutch holds the rope? Try end for ending the halyard
> to move the wear area to a different spot.  If wear seems excessive,
> replace the halyard before it comes apart under load.
>
> D. Are the clutch teeth worn?  Depending on the brand of clutch, rebuild
> kits can be sourced.  If nothing else has changed on the boat and the
> halyard has just started slipping, this is the usual culprit.
>
>
>
> Chuck Gilchrest
>
> S/V HalfMagic
>
> 1983 35 LF
>
> Padanaram, MA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:24 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just
> won't hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass
> through clutch.
> Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I
> take to a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single
> winch and when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
> Evening Star
> Pentwater, Mi.
>
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Re: Stus-List Never gets old

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Aren’t we all big kids?

Marek

From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List
Sent: 26 June, 2019 13:20
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Never gets old

I'm waxing Touche' and the Navy Blue Angels are practicing overhead.  Touche's 
Pensacola slip is in Bayou Chico just a few miles north of their home base, 
Pensacola Naval Air Station.

I grew up across Bayou Grande from the base.  Watched them as a kid.  Never 
gets old.  Never.

We'll be anchored in Santa Rosa Sound July 13 when they do their Pensacola 
Beach show. Awesome event.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Block Island's Great Salt Pond - Town Mooring or Dock Reservation?

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

Tom,

I've spent a few nights at Block Island for the last several years on my 
cruises.  The situation with the town moorings is first come/first 
serve, no reserving.  It reminds me of trying to find a parking spot in 
NYC, at 7 - 8 am you cruise around the mooring field looking for someone 
taking sail covers off or running an engine and wait behind him so you 
can grab the mooring the second he leaves. By 10 am  or so they're all 
taken.


But, the real secret is that at 3 PM each day, the harbormaster can put 
transients on private moorings that are unused for that evening.  You 
call him on VHF and he meets you by Can 13 and directs you to a 
mooring.  I've always been able to get one if I arrive later in the 
day.  That gives you at least one night so early the next morning you 
can do the town mooring derby described above.


The anchorage is another option, of course, but as I found out your nice 
spot with plenty of clearance will inevitably be crowded by late 
arrivals.  Kind of zoo, but there's quite a lot of room at the far edge, 
long way to shore.


When are you going out?  I'm leaving this weekend on more or less the 
same route, be good to meet up.  Contact me offline.


Neil  Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY

On 6/26/2019 1:22 PM, Thomas Delaney via CnC-List wrote:

Hi Listers,

My crew is demanding that I give them a break from racing so we are 
planning for our first cruise, heading up Long Island Sound to Newport 
and Block Island, next month. I've arranged dock space at the navy 
base in Newport, but I'm still working out the details for the stop at 
Block Island.


We'd be arriving on a Sunday afternoon and staying overnight. Does 
anyone know what the town mooring situation in the Great Salt Pond is 
like? Would it be better to forget about the moorings and make a 
reservation now at one of the marinas instead?


My worry is that all the town moorings will be occupied, the docks'll 
be full, and we'll have to set an anchor for the night. My anchor 
tackle is geared towards racing rather than cruising (150 ft of nylon 
rode with a short section of rubberized chain and a Fortress) so I'd 
like to avoid that.


Thanks for any advice or thoughts you may have!

Best,
Tom

---
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'73 C 35-1
City Island, NY



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Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

Locking wiping, whipping?



From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Morgan Ellis via 
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Sent: June-26-19 3:04 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Morgan Ellis 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line



The C 115 that I used to crew on had the same issue, tried smaller jaws in 
the clutch, which helped but not much. In the end, what worked was adding the 
second core to the 5' of halyard where the clutch needs to grab. On that boat, 
we also removed some core from the tail end of the halyard, which made feeding 
thru clutches easier. If you are doing this remember to add some locking wiping 
to keep everything in place. On the J35 I race on now we actually added a 
second clutch inline for the main and jib halyards, this helps but when it is 
really blowing we still take the halyards to a horn cleat as well (but no 
locking turn).



Morgan Ellis

S/V Meandher 30-2 #140

Thunder Bay, ON



On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 08:36, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Another thought is a horn or cam cleat aft of the clutches.  J boats all have 
cam cleats.  Our Frers has a horn cleat.  On windy days our main and jib 
halyards will slip if this is not used.  On the C 115 we would lose 2 feet of 
hoist on main if we did not tie off the halyard somehow.



Mike

Persistence

Halifax



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 ] On Behalf Of Chuck Gilchrest via 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest
Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line



Before you bulk up your Halyards or change to a rope with a more aggressive 
cover, it would be good to know if the high tech but slippery halyard line is:

A. New to the boat?

B. If yes to the above, is it properly sized for the clutch?

C. If old, is there visible wear on the cover or signs of non-recoverable 
compression where the clutch holds the rope? Try end for ending the halyard to 
move the wear area to a different spot.  If wear seems excessive, replace the 
halyard before it comes apart under load.

D. Are the clutch teeth worn?  Depending on the brand of clutch, rebuild kits 
can be sourced.  If nothing else has changed on the boat and the halyard has 
just started slipping, this is the usual culprit.



Chuck Gilchrest

S/V HalfMagic

1983 35 LF

Padanaram, MA

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:24 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just won't 
hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass through 
clutch.
Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I take to 
a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single winch and 
when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Evening Star
Pentwater, Mi.

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Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line

[Morgan Ellis via CnC-List]

The C 115 that I used to crew on had the same issue, tried smaller jaws
in the clutch, which helped but not much. In the end, what worked was
adding the second core to the 5' of halyard where the clutch needs to grab.
On that boat, we also removed some core from the tail end of the halyard,
which made feeding thru clutches easier. If you are doing this remember to
add some locking wiping to keep everything in place. On the J35 I race on
now we actually added a second clutch inline for the main and jib halyards,
this helps but when it is really blowing we still take the halyards to a
horn cleat as well (but no locking turn).

Morgan Ellis
S/V Meandher 30-2 #140
Thunder Bay, ON

On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 08:36, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Another thought is a horn or cam cleat aft of the clutches.  J boats all
> have cam cleats.  Our Frers has a horn cleat.  On windy days our main and
> jib halyards will slip if this is not used.  On the C 115 we would lose 2
> feet of hoist on main if we did not tie off the halyard somehow.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
> Halifax
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
> Gilchrest via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:24 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Chuck Gilchrest
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line
>
>
>
> Before you bulk up your Halyards or change to a rope with a more
> aggressive cover, it would be good to know if the high tech but slippery
> halyard line is:
>
> A. New to the boat?
>
> B. If yes to the above, is it properly sized for the clutch?
>
> C. If old, is there visible wear on the cover or signs of non-recoverable
> compression where the clutch holds the rope? Try end for ending the halyard
> to move the wear area to a different spot.  If wear seems excessive,
> replace the halyard before it comes apart under load.
>
> D. Are the clutch teeth worn?  Depending on the brand of clutch, rebuild
> kits can be sourced.  If nothing else has changed on the boat and the
> halyard has just started slipping, this is the usual culprit.
>
>
>
> Chuck Gilchrest
>
> S/V HalfMagic
>
> 1983 35 LF
>
> Padanaram, MA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:24 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just
> won't hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass
> through clutch.
> Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I
> take to a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single
> winch and when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
> Evening Star
> Pentwater, Mi.
>
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Stus-List Block Island's Great Salt Pond - Town Mooring or Dock Reservation?

[Thomas Delaney via CnC-List]

Hi Listers,

My crew is demanding that I give them a break from racing so we are
planning for our first cruise, heading up Long Island Sound to Newport and
Block Island, next month. I've arranged dock space at the navy base in
Newport, but I'm still working out the details for the stop at Block Island.

We'd be arriving on a Sunday afternoon and staying overnight. Does anyone
know what the town mooring situation in the Great Salt Pond is like? Would
it be better to forget about the moorings and make a reservation now at one
of the marinas instead?

My worry is that all the town moorings will be occupied, the docks'll be
full, and we'll have to set an anchor for the night. My anchor tackle is
geared towards racing rather than cruising (150 ft of nylon rode with a
short section of rubberized chain and a Fortress) so I'd like to avoid that.

Thanks for any advice or thoughts you may have!

Best,
Tom

---
Snow Goose
'73 C 35-1
City Island, NY
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Stus-List Never gets old

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I'm waxing Touche' and the Navy Blue Angels are practicing overhead.
Touche's Pensacola slip is in Bayou Chico just a few miles north of their
home base, Pensacola Naval Air Station.

I grew up across Bayou Grande from the base.  Watched them as a kid.  Never
gets old.  Never.

We'll be anchored in Santa Rosa Sound July 13 when they do their Pensacola
Beach show. Awesome event.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[Stephen Thorne via CnC-List]

+3 Garhauer

Steve
Atlanta
34+ Dejvu

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 11:17 AM Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> +3. Have had it for about 20 years, still working great – Guido made
> properly shaped brackets for me as well.
>
> Gary
>
> St. Michaels
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Rick
> Brass via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:03 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Rick Brass 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?
>
>
>
> +2 on the Garhauer rigid vang.
>
>
>
> I have one on each of my boats…. Getting rid of the verdamte topping lift
> is such a wonderful thing, and the Garhauer vang is such a bargain. Guido
> made custom brackets for the mast base and boom for each of the vangs –
> included in the price. The one on the 25 was bought about 1996 and the one
> on the 38 about 2004.
>
>
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Solar Panel Project - Thanks for the advice

[kelly petew via CnC-List]

As always, this list is a great source of knowledge.  Thanks to all!!!

Pete W.
Siren Song
'91 C 30-2
Deltaville, Va.
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Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line

[Alan Liles via CnC-List]

When I upgraded the halyards to dyneema, the clutches (Lewmar) slipped quite a 
bit before they would grab. I cleaned and lubed the mechanism inside the clutch 
and it worked much better. 

Cheers, Al

> 
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Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

+3. Have had it for about 20 years, still working great – Guido made properly 
shaped brackets for me as well.

Gary

St. Michaels

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Rick Brass via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:03 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

 

+2 on the Garhauer rigid vang. 

 

I have one on each of my boats…. Getting rid of the verdamte topping lift is 
such a wonderful thing, and the Garhauer vang is such a bargain. Guido made 
custom brackets for the mast base and boom for each of the vangs – included in 
the price. The one on the 25 was bought about 1996 and the one on the 38 about 
2004. 

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

+2 on the Garhauer rigid vang. 

 

I have one on each of my boats…. Getting rid of the verdamte topping lift is 
such a wonderful thing, and the Garhauer vang is such a bargain. Guido made 
custom brackets for the mast base and boom for each of the vangs – included in 
the price. The one on the 25 was bought about 1996 and the one on the 38 about 
2004. 

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jhnelson24 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 4:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: jhnelson24 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang?

 

Ditto. Very happy with mine had it for more than 9 years. 

 

 

 

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 

 Original message 

From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 

Date: 2019-06-25 12:37 (GMT-04:00) 

To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 

Cc: Randy Stafford mailto:randal.staff...@icloud.com> > 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid Boom Vang? 

 

I bought a rigid vang for my 30 MK I from Garhauer three years ago for $495. 
I’ve been happy with it.

 

Cheers,

Randy





On Jun 25, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Listers,

 

My rigid boom vang has seen better days and I’m looking to do a replacement. 
Can anyone recommend a good option for a boat in the 37-40’ range that won’t 
break the bank? 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY 

Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log  

 








 






 

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Re: Stus-List Fire Extinguisher on sale

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

FWIW, a 2 pack of 2.5lb Kidde 1A, 10BC red fire extinguishers is $22.95 at my 
local Walmart.

 

And the red Kidde extinguishers on my boats also have the proper USCG approval 
code.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

 

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Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 8:44 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Danny Haughey 
Subject: Stus-List Fire Extinguisher on sale

 

Hi Guys, 

I just saw this on Woot . com.  Thought some might be interested

 

 First Alert Standard Home Fire Extinguisher (2-Pack)

$39.99 $59.98 33% off list price

 

The manual says it is USCG approved.


Marine Type, U.S.C.G. Type B:C, Size I U.S.C.G. Approval Number 162.028/EX3622 
Valid only with Bracket Number P87-0340 or Bracket Number B70-0161 and Strap 
Number S70-0007. Bracket included

-- 
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T40
Rum Runner IV
Mattapoisett, MA




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Stus-List Fire Extinguisher on sale

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi Guys,

I just saw this on Woot . com.  Thought some might be interested

First Alert Standard Home Fire Extinguisher (2-Pack) 



$39.99$59.9833% off list price

The manual says it is USCG approved.

Marine Type, U.S.C.G. Type B:C, Size I U.S.C.G. Approval Number 
162.028/EX3622 Valid only with Bracket Number P87-0340 or Bracket Number 
B70-0161 and Strap Number S70-0007. Bracket included


--
Danny
T40
Rum Runner IV
Mattapoisett, MA


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[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Another thought is a horn or cam cleat aft of the clutches.  J boats all have 
cam cleats.  Our Frers has a horn cleat.  On windy days our main and jib 
halyards will slip if this is not used.  On the C 115 we would lose 2 feet of 
hoist on main if we did not tie off the halyard somehow.

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck 
Gilchrest via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest
Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line

Before you bulk up your Halyards or change to a rope with a more aggressive 
cover, it would be good to know if the high tech but slippery halyard line is:
A. New to the boat?
B. If yes to the above, is it properly sized for the clutch?
C. If old, is there visible wear on the cover or signs of non-recoverable 
compression where the clutch holds the rope? Try end for ending the halyard to 
move the wear area to a different spot.  If wear seems excessive, replace the 
halyard before it comes apart under load.
D. Are the clutch teeth worn?  Depending on the brand of clutch, rebuild kits 
can be sourced.  If nothing else has changed on the boat and the halyard has 
just started slipping, this is the usual culprit.

Chuck Gilchrest
S/V HalfMagic
1983 35 LF
Padanaram, MA
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:24 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just won't 
hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass through 
clutch.
Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I take to 
a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single winch and 
when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Evening Star
Pentwater, Mi.
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[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Another thought is a horn or cam cleat aft of the clutches.  J boats all have 
cam cleats.  Our Frers has a horn cleat.  On windy days our main and jib 
halyards will slip if this is not used.  On the C 115 we would lose 2 feet of 
hoist on main if we did not tie off the halyard somehow.

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck 
Gilchrest via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest
Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line

Before you bulk up your Halyards or change to a rope with a more aggressive 
cover, it would be good to know if the high tech but slippery halyard line is:
A. New to the boat?
B. If yes to the above, is it properly sized for the clutch?
C. If old, is there visible wear on the cover or signs of non-recoverable 
compression where the clutch holds the rope? Try end for ending the halyard to 
move the wear area to a different spot.  If wear seems excessive, replace the 
halyard before it comes apart under load.
D. Are the clutch teeth worn?  Depending on the brand of clutch, rebuild kits 
can be sourced.  If nothing else has changed on the boat and the halyard has 
just started slipping, this is the usual culprit.

Chuck Gilchrest
S/V HalfMagic
1983 35 LF
Padanaram, MA
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On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:24 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just won't 
hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass through 
clutch.
Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I take to 
a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single winch and 
when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Evening Star
Pentwater, Mi.
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