Stus-List Dive boat fire and egress

[Len Mitchell via CnC-List]

Joe, Every single boat owner should have a smoke alarm on board. The odds of 
actually using a means of egress depend almost entirely upon getting an early 
warning. A smoke alarm is maybe $10 and some have integrated CO alarms too. It 
will be interesting to see what the cause of the fire was but everyone deserves 
a chance to escape a fire like that whether in a building or a boat. Just think 
about how much time passed before the boat was fully involved. There will be a 
lot more to that story than the news originally reported. Len

Sent from my mobile device.

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[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Edd, I would like to see the routing, and additional information also, thanks
 
Richard
 s/c Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37; Ohio River, Mile 584.4
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Sent: Tue, Sep 3, 2019 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List If You Ever Need a Delivery Captain for your C&C

I have the world’s only shoal draft C&C 37+ (sealed up centerboard model) — 
4.92 feet. 
Jon — Rick will be sending me his logs, which I’ll upload to Dropbox and share 
with anyone who wants to see it. 
I understand that Rick, in the full spirit of it all, also noted the Stardates 
in his log. 

All the best,
Edd

Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: 
NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice, FL
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log





 



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Stus-List Engine fuel shut-off lever

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

Finding and identifying the fuel shut-off lever is a good thing for any skipper 
with a diesel axillary engine--before you need to locate it when the engine 
refuses to quit--don't ask me how I know!
OTOH, I would not recommend putting your hand over the air intake pipe/filter 
housing with the engine running. 
I tried that recently on my 28 hp Beta and the suction was so great that I had 
to get my hand out of there before the engine came near to quitting. 
I almost had a 3 inch diameter suction 'hickey' on my palm before I decided to 
stop the engine with another method--that is when I found the manual fuel 
shut-off on the engine!
BTH, using the main fuel shut-off on the outlet of the fuel tank should also 
work--but there could be a fair amount of fuel to be burned down stream of this 
valve before the engine is starved. 
Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb







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Re: Stus-List Yanmar Engine stop cable / inverter power 2 fer

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

John,

On the engine in this video you can see the solenoid linkage that attaches
to the fuel shutoff lever.  You probably don't have a shutoff solenoid but
don't let that confuse you.  The attachment to the engine fuel system is
identical.

https://youtu.be/mdHIt14l0R8

And the same lever is circled in this picture
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14C-AA-ajCZRKJiA0WhAAFBMRlY4XHY1g/view?usp=drivesdk

Using this lever is really the better way to kill the engine.  It starves
the fuel.  Any other way will leave unburnt fuel in and on the cylinders.
Over time it can build up, gum up, blow smoke on next start, leak into the
crankcase, Yada, Yada, Yada  The method you found for killing the
engine is the decompression levers.  These are nice in the event that you
need to start the engine with a low battery.  During the off season you
should also "roll" the engine by pulling the engine stop cable while also
pulling the decompression levers and simultaneously running the starter.
Do until the low oil pressure alarm clears.  Repeat once a month to keep
oil on the bearings and piston rings.

Another option for killing the engine is to simply put you hand over the
intake air pipe.

For repair of a broken stop cable I suggest buying a marine choke cable
replacement.  I say marine in the hopes that it is SS cable.  In all
likelihood it will be more robust and cheaper than the official Yanmar
part.  Get the right length based on the existing length of the cable that
you pull out with the handlethen again if it does not look broken or
frayed then maybe the screw just came loose and can be reassembled.

As for the inverter, I need more details but it seems like a supply breaker
or fuse is blown.  Maybe a disconnect is open or you have a loose cable.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD





On Tue, Sep 3, 2019, 9:02 PM John Conklin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> So I jumped on the boat happily started her and went pull the shut off
> cable  which worked perfectly smooth  last time out!   frozen
> I did figure out the shut off on top of the 3HM but I  can’t even see
> where cable runs? It’s Like someone superglued it !
> Also inverter west Marine 40 amp  seems to be on vacation even when I turn
> several items on  no humming or fans or nothin
> Thoughts are appreciated
>
> John Conklin
> S/V Halcyon
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Stus-List Yanmar Engine stop cable / inverter power 2 fer

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

So I jumped on the boat happily started her and went pull the shut off cable  
which worked perfectly smooth  last time out!   frozen 
I did figure out the shut off on top of the 3HM but I  can’t even see where 
cable runs? It’s Like someone superglued it !
Also inverter west Marine 40 amp  seems to be on vacation even when I turn 
several items on  no humming or fans or nothin 
Thoughts are appreciated 

John Conklin 
S/V Halcyon 
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Re: Stus-List Haul for Winter or not-do full-time in-water boat’s possibly suffer more from osmosis?

[Edward Levert via CnC-List]

I purchased my 1981 C&C 34 in October 2012. Previously she spent time in
Lake Champlain, the New River, NC, and Niceville, Fl before winding up in
New Orleans. The latter 3 home ports would indicate year round afloat. I
have hauled out annually for fresh anti fouling paint. During my ownership,
I have had only 1 blister exposed by annual sanding. This annual sanding
has not been down to the gel coat but should have revealed a blister
problem. My belief based on experience with a 1971 C&C 27 with many many
blisters is that if blisters haven't developed by now, your exposure will
be minimal.

Ed Levert
C&C 34
Briar Patch
New Orleans

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 6:14 PM sv Rebecca Leah via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Christian,
> Currently I don't live in the tropics. However I do live aboard in a very
> wet climate, known as the Pacific Northwest. I run a dehumidifier during
> the winter to keep the mold and mildew at bay.
> 3 boats and 15 years I have noticed no ill affects.
>
>
> Doug Mountjoy
> Sv Rebecca Leah
> C&C LF39
> 253-208-1412
> Port Orchard YC wa.
>
>  Original message 
> From: Christian Planton via CnC-List 
> Date: 9/3/19 15:33 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Christian Planton 
> Subject: Stus-List Haul for Winter or not-do full-time in-water boat’s
> possibly suffer more from osmosis?
>
>
>
> My question is do full-time in-water boat’s possibly suffer more from
> osmosis? I have gotten the reply that I should every few years to let the
> hull dry out. What do boats in the tropics do?
>
> Christian
> Peer Gyth
> 1980 C&C 34
> Saugatuck, CT
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Re: Stus-List Haul for Winter or not-do full-time in-water boat’s possibly suffer more from osmosis?

[sv Rebecca Leah via CnC-List]

Christian,Currently I don't live in the tropics. However I do live aboard in a 
very wet climate, known as the Pacific Northwest. I run a dehumidifier during 
the winter to keep the mold and mildew at bay. 3 boats and 15 years I have 
noticed no ill affects. Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah C&C LF39253-208-1412Port 
Orchard YC wa.
 Original message From: Christian Planton via CnC-List 
 Date: 9/3/19  15:33  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Christian Planton  Subject: 
Stus-List Haul for Winter or not-do full-time in-water boat’s possibly suffer 
more from osmosis? My question is do full-time in-water boat’s possibly suffer 
more from osmosis? I have gotten the reply that I should every few years to let 
the hull dry out. What do boats in the tropics do?ChristianPeer Gyth1980 C&C 
34Saugatuck, CT
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[Christian Planton via CnC-List]

My question is do full-time in-water boat’s possibly suffer more from
osmosis? I have gotten the reply that I should every few years to let the
hull dry out. What do boats in the tropics do?

Christian
Peer Gyth
1980 C&C 34
Saugatuck, CT
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Re: Stus-List engine oil

[G Collins via CnC-List]

When I bought our boat 10 years ago it came with a jug of Rotella, I just kept 
using it.  Happy so far...  Yanmar 3GM

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2019-09-03 10:27 a.m., Richard Bush via CnC-List wrote:
Ok; respectfully you guys now have me totally confused...what one swears 
by, then other would "never" dowe mere mortals, (as in not mechanics, 
scientists, or otherwise experts in the field), need to know what we can 
reliably do for our good old Yanmars...
so, can I use Rotella for diesel, (30 wt per C&C manual) or not...and even if 
not required, does it hurt to change the filter every year whether need or 
not...?

Many thanks and please know that I, for one, love to see and partake in this 
kind of discussion, I just need to know what to do...

Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Miel 584.4


Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 

To: cnc-list 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Sent: Mon, Sep 2, 2019 10:12 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List engine oil

For what it's worth, I use non synthetics oils and I wouldn’t think of not 
change the filter with each oil change. When I installed the new engine in my 
40 two years ago I asked the mechanic about using synthetic oil and was told 
absolutely not! For the reasons already explained here.

Andy

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI
USA02842

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260




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Stus-List Large spinnaker

[Fred Hazzard via CnC-List]

Does any have 3/4 oz symmetrical spinnaker for C&C 44 that they would like
to sell?

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland Or
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[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

I have the world’s only shoal draft C&C 37+ (sealed up centerboard model) — 
4.92 feet. 

Jon — Rick will be sending me his logs, which I’ll upload to Dropbox and share 
with anyone who wants to see it. 

I understand that Rick, in the full spirit of it all, also noted the Stardates 
in his log. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 











On Sep 3, 2019, at 4:50 PM, David Risch via CnC-List  
wrote:

What is your draft?
From: CnC-List mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf of JP Mail via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 12:19:08 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: JP Mail mailto:jon.peterpr...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List If You Ever Need a Delivery Captain for your C&C
 
I’d love to see the route. 
Jon
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[David Risch via CnC-List]

What is your draft?

From: CnC-List  on behalf of JP Mail via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 12:19:08 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: JP Mail 
Subject: Re: Stus-List If You Ever Need a Delivery Captain for your C&C

I’d love to see the route.
Jon
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Stus-List Dive boat fire and egress

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I am sure you have all been reading about the 30+ people that died on the dive 
boat that caught on fire. It is horrible reading and it really got me to 
thinking about my own boat. I don’t do it so much now at my advanced age, but 
throwing the forward hatch all the way open and climbing in and out of it was 
pretty standard fare when we were kids.
I just made damn sure my family knows how to release the hatch supports and 
climb out.
I also may get a boat smoke detector. I already have a CO detector. We had a 
live-aboard powerboat go up this winter and the lady that was living on her 
barely got out. The boat went up very fast.
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Re: Stus-List engine oil

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

The only safest answer is to follow the OEM recommendations.  IF Rotella T
is in the OEM viscosity range and meets the recommended SAE specs then yes
you can use it.  When changing the oil, it makes little sense to not change
the filter and yes the OEM typically recommends changing the oil at the end
of the season.  There is no "harm" to the engine in changing the oil or
filter or both more often than needed or recommended

Josh




On Tue, Sep 3, 2019, 9:28 AM Richard Bush via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ok; respectfully you guys now have me totally confused...what one
> swears by, then other would "never" dowe mere mortals, (as in not
> mechanics, scientists, or otherwise experts in the field), need to know
> what we can reliably do for our good old Yanmars...
> so, can I use Rotella for diesel, (30 wt per C&C manual) or not...and even
> if not required, does it hurt to change the filter every year whether need
> or not...?
>
> Many thanks and please know that I, for one, love to see and partake in
> this kind of discussion, I just need to know what to do...
>
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Miel 584.4
>
>
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Sent: Mon, Sep 2, 2019 10:12 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List engine oil
>
> For what it's worth, I use non synthetics oils and I wouldn’t think of not
> change the filter with each oil change. When I installed the new engine in
> my 40 two years ago I asked the mechanic about using synthetic oil and was
> told absolutely not! For the reasons already explained here.
>
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI
> USA02842
>
> www.burtonsailing.com
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
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Re: Stus-List Spinnaker for C&C 35 Mk I

[John Read via CnC-List]

Have tired but usable from our 34.  Free for shipping and donation to Stu.
Noank CT. John Read

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019, 10:25 AM Glen Eddie via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> The 47 year old delivery spinnaker I bought several years ago (I believe
> from Dennis) finally powdered in an epic explosion last Wednesday.  There
> is not enough sail tape in the world to fix it.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have a used spinnaker for a C&C 35 Mk I that they want to
> sell.  My crew is not ready (nor is my wife) for a new spinnaker purchase.
>
>
>
> Happy to discuss offline.  Thanks.
>
>
> --
>
> *Glen Eddie*
>
> Tel:  416-777-5357
>
> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
>
> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>
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>
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Stus-List Spinnaker for C&C 35 Mk I

[Rich via CnC-List]

I have a couple of very good spinnakers available from my 35-3. Contact me if 
interested. 

Sent from my iPhone
Richard Spitzenberger  CPA
Phone 631-331-3140
r...@spitzenbergercpa.com


> On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Glen Eddie  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
>  
> The 47 year old delivery spinnaker I bought several years ago (I believe from 
> Dennis) finally powdered in an epic explosion last Wednesday.  There is not 
> enough sail tape in the world to fix it. 
>  
> Does anyone have a used spinnaker for a C&C 35 Mk I that they want to sell.  
> My crew is not ready (nor is my wife) for a new spinnaker purchase. 
>  
> Happy to discuss offline.  Thanks.
>  
> Glen Eddie
> Tel:  416-777-5357
> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
> ged...@torkinmanes.com
> VCard
> Torkin Manes LLP
> Barristers & Solicitors
> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
> Toronto ON M5C 2W7 
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I’d love to see the route. 
Jon
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Re: Stus-List Spinnaker for C&C 35 Mk I

[Jeff Helsdingen via CnC-List]

I have a couple and am in London On so relatively close. Send me an email
and we can discuss.

Jeff

On Tue., Sep. 3, 2019, 10:25 a.m. Glen Eddie via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> The 47 year old delivery spinnaker I bought several years ago (I believe
> from Dennis) finally powdered in an epic explosion last Wednesday.  There
> is not enough sail tape in the world to fix it.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have a used spinnaker for a C&C 35 Mk I that they want to
> sell.  My crew is not ready (nor is my wife) for a new spinnaker purchase.
>
>
>
> Happy to discuss offline.  Thanks.
>
>
> --
>
> *Glen Eddie*
>
> Tel:  416-777-5357
>
> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
>
> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>
> VCard 
>
> *Torkin Manes LLP*
> Barristers & Solicitors
>
> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
> Toronto ON M5C 2W7
> torkinmanes.com 
>
> An international member of Ally Law
>
> This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named
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Re: Stus-List Spinnaker for C&C 35 Mk I

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Say it isn't so.  Sniff.  Sniff.  Snuffle.  A part of Touche' dies in an
epic way.  Fitting, I guess.  RIP.  It lived a good long life.

Sorry I don't have another extra for you.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 9:25 AM Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> The 47 year old delivery spinnaker I bought several years ago (I believe
> from Dennis) finally powdered in an epic explosion last Wednesday.  There
> is not enough sail tape in the world to fix it.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have a used spinnaker for a C&C 35 Mk I that they want to
> sell.  My crew is not ready (nor is my wife) for a new spinnaker purchase.
>
>
>
> Happy to discuss offline.  Thanks.
>
>
> --
>
> *Glen Eddie*
>
> Tel:  416-777-5357
>
> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
>
> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>
> VCard 
>
> *Torkin Manes LLP*
> Barristers & Solicitors
>
> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
> Toronto ON M5C 2W7
> torkinmanes.com 
>
> An international member of Ally Law
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[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

As most of you already know, I have moved from the soon-to-be-cold Northeast to 
sunny Sarasota. The process of moving a home and an office made for a very 
difficult premise of moving the Enterprise as well. 

So, after an exhaustive search for a delivery captain, I chose fellow-lister 
Captain Rick Brass. 

Rick, along with his two crew, Jim and Chuck, left City Island on August 4, 
with every detail meticulously planned, with all sorts of contingencies along 
the way — where to stop for fuel, where to go in the ICW, where to stay out and 
go all night, marinas to get supplies, etc. And, of course, Rick provided me 
with a website to track the Enterprise’s movements with his SPOT transmitter. 

Were there mechanical and weather delays? Sure. But all were handled expertly 
and Rick always kept the safety of his crew and the Enterprise foremost in his 
planning. And, unlike many other delivery captains out there, he also kept an 
eye on my costs.

Also, apparently things can get pretty boring on the ICW, so his crew would 
spend their time doing maintenance. They tightened the engine mounts, adjusted 
the steering cables, cleaned the interior, and fixed little odds and ends. 

I could not be happier. The Enterprise has arrived at her new home at Venice 
Yacht Club and in better condition than when she departed. See: 
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDiZvBtXUAEaFPQ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 
 

So, should you ever be in the need for a delivery and want someone who is a C&C 
enthusiast, a seasoned captain, and who will do the trip at a price point that 
will put other services to shame, look no further than Rick and his team. I 
cannot recommend them enough. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

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Re: Stus-List engine oil

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

You will never go wrong with a fresh oil change before haul out for winter
storage. Just make sure the engine is warm before you drain it and then run
it up to usual operating temp to circulate the new oil before you shut down
for winter storage. Shell Rotella  is very good oil. I would advise to use
a non synthetic. And you will never go wrong with a filter change either so
by all means yes change it when you change the oil. Choose a good rated
filter. I use NAPA gold on my Universal M4-30 diesel and a multigrade
diesel lube oil from Canadian Tire or Walmart. Something like 15w-40 will
be just fine.

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:28 AM Richard Bush via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ok; respectfully you guys now have me totally confused...what one
> swears by, then other would "never" dowe mere mortals, (as in not
> mechanics, scientists, or otherwise experts in the field), need to know
> what we can reliably do for our good old Yanmars...
> so, can I use Rotella for diesel, (30 wt per C&C manual) or not...and even
> if not required, does it hurt to change the filter every year whether need
> or not...?
>
> Many thanks and please know that I, for one, love to see and partake in
> this kind of discussion, I just need to know what to do...
>
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Miel 584.4
>
>
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane
> ,
> Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Sent: Mon, Sep 2, 2019 10:12 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List engine oil
>
> For what it's worth, I use non synthetics oils and I wouldn’t think of not
> change the filter with each oil change. When I installed the new engine in
> my 40 two years ago I asked the mechanic about using synthetic oil and was
> told absolutely not! For the reasons already explained here.
>
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> 
>
> 
> Middletown, RI
> 
>
>
> 
> USA
> 
>  02842
> 
>
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> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
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Re: Stus-List engine oil

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

OK, Richard, I'm in.
Oil:
 You can never be wrong following the manufacturer's recommendations
(Yamaha).  The biggest advantage of the new synthetic oils is longevity.
Most of us change the oil and filter every fall and put very few hours on
our engines.  Therefore, longevity is not that important.  Of course, yeah
I know, there are other advantages of the synthetics, but the
manufacturer's recommendations are king and therefore I use their
recommendations.  When synthetics first came out, some manufacturers would
void your warranty for not using the recommended lubricants.  I use
synthetics in my cars, but they were designed for them.

Filters:
 Again the manufacturer's recommendations should be followed, but most
of us do not put anywhere near enough hours on our auxiliaries to warrant
changing the filter more than once a season.

Recommendations:
 Yanmar recommends changing the oil every 100 hours and the filter
every 300 hours for a GM or HM engine.  Shell Rotella is one of the oils
they recommend.  Otherwise, change oil and filter every fall, so the acid
and moisture-laden lubricants from the summer don't sit in the engine all
winter.  Save your money for a good glass of bourbon. That's what I do.

All the best,
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA
~~~_/)~~



On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 9:28 AM Richard Bush via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ok; respectfully you guys now have me totally confused...what one
> swears by, then other would "never" dowe mere mortals, (as in not
> mechanics, scientists, or otherwise experts in the field), need to know
> what we can reliably do for our good old Yanmars...
> so, can I use Rotella for diesel, (30 wt per C&C manual) or not...and even
> if not required, does it hurt to change the filter every year whether need
> or not...?
>
> Many thanks and please know that I, for one, love to see and partake in
> this kind of discussion, I just need to know what to do...
>
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Miel 584.4
>
>
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Sent: Mon, Sep 2, 2019 10:12 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List engine oil
>
> For what it's worth, I use non synthetics oils and I wouldn’t think of not
> change the filter with each oil change. When I installed the new engine in
> my 40 two years ago I asked the mechanic about using synthetic oil and was
> told absolutely not! For the reasons already explained here.
>
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI
> USA02842
>
> www.burtonsailing.com
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
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Re: Stus-List engine oil

[sv Rebecca Leah via CnC-List]

Richard,If the Rotella oil has the same rating required  by your manual, you 
should be covered. Just dont use oil that is for a gas engine. I did this in an 
old VWdiesel car. Within 1000 miles i was rebuilding the engine. I use Delo 400 
in my yanmar, because I bought 10 gallons for half price. If you wanted you 
could change you filter monthly. Doing it once a year, your oil every other is 
in MHO ok. The biggest thing we can do for our diesel engines is run them at 
full cruise power for at least an hour on a regular basis. I say, because a 
friend would run his diesel just long enough to get in and out of the marina. 
Never letting the engine get fully warmed up. It finally died from a severe 
lack of compression.  Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah C&C LF39253-208-1412Port 
Orchard YC wa.
 Original message From: Richard Bush via CnC-List 
 Date: 9/3/19  06:27  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Richard Bush  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List engine oil 

Ok; respectfully you guys now have me totally confused...what one swears 
by, then other would "never" dowe mere mortals, (as in not mechanics, 
scientists, or otherwise experts in the field), need to know what we can 
reliably do for our good old Yanmars...  


so, can I use Rotella for diesel, (30 wt per C&C manual) or not...and even if 
not required, does it hurt to change the filter every year whether need or 
not...?  


 



Many thanks and please know that I, for one, love to see and partake in this 
kind of discussion, I just need to know what to do...





Richard

 

s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Miel 584.4








Richard N. Bush 


2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 


Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 


502-584-7255


 


 


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Sent: Mon, Sep 2, 2019 10:12 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List engine oil



For what it's worth, I use non synthetics oils and I wouldn’t think of not 
change the filter with each oil change. When I installed the new engine in my 
40 two years ago I asked the mechanic about using synthetic oil and was told 
absolutely not! For the reasons already explained here.


Andy
Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave

Middletown, RI 

USA    02842



www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260











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Re: Stus-List Spinnaker for C&C 35 Mk I

[schiller via CnC-List]

What weight?  I have a 3/4 oz and a 1.5 oz out in the barn (I gifted the 
1/2 oz to Glenn Gambell for his 36).  They came off our old Redwing 35 
(C&C 35-1, Hull #7).  No turtle for the 3/4 oz as I already stole that 
for the Asym on our 35-3.


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC


On 9/3/2019 10:24 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List wrote:


Hello everyone,

The 47 year old delivery spinnaker I bought several years ago (I 
believe from Dennis) finally powdered in an epic explosion last 
Wednesday.  There is not enough sail tape in the world to fix it.


Does anyone have a used spinnaker for a C&C 35 Mk I that they want to 
sell.  My crew is not ready (nor is my wife) for a new spinnaker 
purchase.


Happy to discuss offline.  Thanks.



*Glen Eddie*

Tel:  416-777-5357

Fax:  1-888-812-2557

ged...@torkinmanes.com 

VCard 

*Torkin Manes LLP**
*Barristers & Solicitors

151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
Toronto ON M5C 2W7
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Stus-List Spinnaker for C&C 35 Mk I

[Glen Eddie via CnC-List]

Hello everyone,

The 47 year old delivery spinnaker I bought several years ago (I believe from 
Dennis) finally powdered in an epic explosion last Wednesday.  There is not 
enough sail tape in the world to fix it.

Does anyone have a used spinnaker for a C&C 35 Mk I that they want to sell.  My 
crew is not ready (nor is my wife) for a new spinnaker purchase.

Happy to discuss offline.  Thanks.


Glen Eddie

Tel:  416-777-5357

Fax:  1-888-812-2557

ged...@torkinmanes.com

VCard

Torkin Manes LLP
Barristers & Solicitors
151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
Toronto ON M5C 2W7
torkinmanes.com
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Re: Stus-List engine oil

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

Ok; respectfully you guys now have me totally confused...what one swears 
by, then other would "never" dowe mere mortals, (as in not mechanics, 
scientists, or otherwise experts in the field), need to know what we can 
reliably do for our good old Yanmars...  
so, can I use Rotella for diesel, (30 wt per C&C manual) or not...and even if 
not required, does it hurt to change the filter every year whether need or 
not...?  
 
Many thanks and please know that I, for one, love to see and partake in this 
kind of discussion, I just need to know what to do...

Richard
 s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Miel 584.4


Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Sent: Mon, Sep 2, 2019 10:12 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List engine oil

For what it's worth, I use non synthetics oils and I wouldn’t think of not 
change the filter with each oil change. When I installed the new engine in my 
40 two years ago I asked the mechanic about using synthetic oil and was told 
absolutely not! For the reasons already explained here.
Andy

Andrew Burton139 Tuckerman AveMiddletown, RI USA    02842
www.burtonsailing.comhttp://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401
 965-5260
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