Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Don Kern via CnC-List]

Looking at the HIN that is a 1974 C Mk*2*

Don Kern
/Fireball /C Mk2
Bristol RI


On 6/30/2020 6:54 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

Was it Touché?  :)

I saw it last week but thought it was a 34.

If anybody wants me to look at it for parts, let me know.  I deal with 
Mike at Southern Cross often. Touché is docked about 2 blocks away. I 
drive past it on my way to my slip.


I should be there next week.

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[James Hesketh via CnC-List]

Dennis,

If it has the 4-hole, 4-inch base mounts for the bow pulpit I could use 2
of them (but only NEED 1). If it's possible to grab them I'd be forever
grateful and can get funds to you as soon as you give me the how-and-where.

Jim Hesketh
C 26 Whisper
Miami, FL

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 7:24 PM JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Could you grab a sawzall and grab me the star and sword ?
>
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List]

Could you grab a sawzall and grab me the star and sword ?

JohnKelly Cuthbertson 

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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Was it Touché?  :)

I saw it last week but thought it was a 34. 

If anybody wants me to look at it for parts, let me know.  I deal with Mike at 
Southern Cross often. Touché is docked about 2 blocks away. I drive past it on 
my way to my slip. 

I should be there next week. 

Dennis C. 
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I went looking around a marine salvage yard today and came across a 1974 C 
> 35 (CCY353221174) which is about to be parted.  The vessel did not look 
> damaged so I asked about it.   The owner of the yard (Southern Cross Salvage) 
> said that it is being scrapped because there is no vessel title.  Seems odd.  
> While it is well aged and a bit neglected, this would be a good chance for 
> 35-1 owners to get some original parts.
> 
> Southern Cross Ships Chandlery
> 103 Myrick St
> Pensacola, FL 
> 
> (850) 377-1776
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C Landfall 38 
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Fort Walton Beach, FL
> 
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/
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Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Hi,

I went looking around a marine salvage yard today and came across a 1974 C 35 
(CCY353221174) which is about to be parted.  The vessel did not look damaged so 
I asked about it.   The owner of the yard (Southern Cross Salvage) said that it 
is being scrapped because there is no vessel title.  Seems odd.  While it is 
well aged and a bit neglected, this would be a good chance for 35-1 owners to 
get some original parts.

Southern Cross Ships Chandlery
103 Myrick St
Pensacola, FL 

(850) 377-1776


Paul

-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Gary,

I have a rebuilt Yanmar 3QM30 in my 81 LF38.  The 3QM30 has about 5 extra HP 
than the newer Yanmar 3YM30, but I have found that the 3QM30 had more than 
enough power and extra to spare.  A new 3YM30 was recommended by Yanmar as a 
replacement  a few years back when I rebuilt the 3QM30.  I don’t know about the 
Perkins, but the Yanmar was a reasonable DIY rebuild.  Mine cost under $2,000.  
See: http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/EngineWork 



As for a prop, I have a Martec Eliptec folding propeller.   It came original to 
me, and has been working fine.  They are no longer made, but here are the 
marking on the prop.  ELIPTEC LH18DX14P - 3" and "1-1/8” shaft.

Paul

-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Jun 30, 2020, at 2:33 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Gary Niemi via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:55 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Gary Niemi
> Subject: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38
> 
> 
> 
> We are American expatriates who have sailed our 1981 C Landfall 38 to New 
> Zealand a decade ago. It has a Perkins 4-108, which is on its last legs. It's 
> not particularly reliable and is having trouble with overheating in the last 
> few years. Also, it's very heavy and it is way too much power anyway. We're 
> looking to replace it with a more reliable, modern power plant.
> 
> 
> 
> So we have a couple of questions:
> 
> 
> 
> What is the correct power? I understand most were sold with Yanmer 30hp 3HM 
> or 3QM diesels. We like the idea of saving a lot of weight with a smaller 
> engine than the Perkins, as well as ease of access, etc. However, we'd 
> consider a 35 or 38 also if 30 horsepower wasn't enough power.
> 
> 
> 
> At the same time we'll be replacing the fixed 2 blade prop with a 3 blade 
> feathering or folding prop, so will be looking for recommendations for that. 
> The current prop is totally wrong. I think it's 16x14. We never were able to 
> get up to the proper engine speed with the 4-108. Can you recommend 
> something? What have people tried?
> 
> 
> 
> Interested in hearing others' experiences.
> 
> 
> 
> Gary Niemi
> g...@niemi.co.nz 

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Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

[Doug Robinson via CnC-List]

Actually there are five Kubota dealers in the Caribbean

On 6/30/20 2:33 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List wrote:
You won’t see any Kubota tractor dealers in the Bahamas or the 
Caribbean...


Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and somewhere 
on the ICW in between)

blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

On Jun 30, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 wrote:




Jeeze Bob, Sorry, I didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers, I was just 
relaying what this long time owner of a neighboring  C said.  He 
didn’t have the same top end in big waves as he had before the 
repower.   And As David mentioned, you can get parts for Beta’s 
anywhere they sell Kubota Tractors, which is everywhere in the 
world..  My 37.5 HP  is the same engine as my Mower, minus one 
Cylinder, so I could use the same Oil, filters, injectors, etc .


Bill Coleman

*From:*Robert Boyer [mailto:dainyr...@icloud.com]
*Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2020 1:06 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Bill Coleman
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

I have all the power I need with my new Yanmar 3YM30AE.  I’m not sure 
where you are getting your information that you need more than 30 HP.


One big disadvantage of Beta is that there are not nearly as many 
parts distributors—this is more important if you cruise to foreign ports.


Bob

Bob Boyer

S/V Rainy Days (1983 C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)

Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

Email: dainyr...@icloud.com

Annapolis, MD

(Presently in Baltimore MD for the summer)



On Jun 26, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 wrote:




I agree, get yourself a nice Beta 37 ½ HP diesel, and a 3 blade
flex-a – fold. I replaced a 4-108 with one of those Kubota’s, the
mounting was about  2 inches narrower, I just had to get some 3”
aluminum (or maybe 4”) angle to replace the old steel angle.  You
will be amazed at how much lighter it is from the Perkins.

An old slip neighbor also had a 39, he replaced his atomic with a
30 HP Yanmar, and was disappointed with the loss in power.  But
it will still get you from A to B.

Bill Coleman

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf
Of *Gary Niemi via CnC-List
*Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:55 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Gary Niemi
*Subject:* Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

We are American expatriates who have sailed our 1981 C Landfall
38 to New Zealand a decade ago. It has a Perkins 4-108, which is
on its last legs. It's not particularly reliable and is having
trouble with overheating in the last few years. Also, it's very
heavy and it is way too much power anyway. We're looking to
replace it with a more reliable, modern power plant.

So we have a couple of questions:

What is the correct power? I understand most were sold with
Yanmer 30hp 3HM or 3QM diesels. We like the idea of saving a lot
of weight with a smaller engine than the Perkins, as well as ease
of access, etc. However, we'd consider a 35 or 38 also if 30
horsepower wasn't enough power.

At the same time we'll be replacing the fixed 2 blade prop with a
3 blade feathering or folding prop, so will be looking for
recommendations for that. The current prop is totally wrong. I
think it's 16x14. We never were able to get up to the proper
engine speed with the 4-108. Can you recommend something? What
have people tried?

Interested in hearing others' experiences.

Gary Niemi
g...@niemi.co.nz 

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Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

I've had an Atomic 4 for 20 years and a Yanmar 3JH2E in a different boat for 4. 
 The Atomic 4 is definitely quieter, and as long as you take care of it (which 
is easy since you are on fresh water), I'd keep the A-4.  That's presuming 
you've gone to the electronic ignition and done basic maintenance.Those who 
talk about Atomic Bombs, gasoline hazards, etc. just simply go too far 
IMHO.Sent from Samsung tablet.
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Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Oh?

http://en.locator.engine.kubota.co.jp/map#Caribbean

How about:

Parts & Power Ltd.
PO Box 850
Road Town, Tortola
British Virgin Islands, VG1110

Tel: +1(284)494-2830
Fax: +1(284)494-6972

i...@partsandpower.com

https://www.partsandpower.com/manufacturers_kubota.php

On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 15:33, Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> You won’t see any Kubota tractor dealers in the Bahamas or the Caribbean...
>
> Bob Boyer
> s/v Rainy Days
> C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
> (Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and somewhere on
> the ICW in between)
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com
>
> On Jun 30, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Jeeze Bob, Sorry, I didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers, I was just
> relaying what this long time owner of a neighboring  C said.  He didn’t
> have the same top end in big waves as he had before the repower.   And As
> David mentioned, you can get parts for Beta’s anywhere they sell Kubota
> Tractors, which is everywhere in the world..  My 37.5 HP  is the same
> engine as my Mower, minus one Cylinder, so I could use the same Oil,
> filters, injectors, etc .
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Boyer [mailto:dainyr...@icloud.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2020 1:06 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Bill Coleman
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38
>
>
>
> I have all the power I need with my new Yanmar 3YM30AE.  I’m not sure
> where you are getting your information that you need more than 30 HP.
>
>
>
> One big disadvantage of Beta is that there are not nearly as many parts
> distributors—this is more important if you cruise to foreign ports.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Boyer
>
> S/V Rainy Days (1983 C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
>
> Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
>
> Email: dainyr...@icloud.com
>
> Annapolis, MD
>
> (Presently in Baltimore MD for the summer)
>
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I agree, get yourself a nice Beta 37 ½ HP diesel, and a 3 blade flex-a –
> fold. I replaced a 4-108 with one of those Kubota’s, the mounting was
> about  2 inches narrower, I just had to get some 3” aluminum (or maybe 4”)
> angle to replace the old steel angle.  You will be amazed at how much
> lighter it is from the Perkins.
>
> An old slip neighbor also had a 39, he replaced his atomic with a 30 HP
> Yanmar, and was disappointed with the loss in power.  But it will still get
> you from A to B.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary
> Niemi via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:55 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Gary Niemi
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38
>
>
>
> We are American expatriates who have sailed our 1981 C Landfall 38 to
> New Zealand a decade ago. It has a Perkins 4-108, which is on its last
> legs. It's not particularly reliable and is having trouble with overheating
> in the last few years. Also, it's very heavy and it is way too much power
> anyway. We're looking to replace it with a more reliable, modern power
> plant.
>
>
>
> So we have a couple of questions:
>
>
>
> What is the correct power? I understand most were sold with Yanmer 30hp
> 3HM or 3QM diesels. We like the idea of saving a lot of weight with a
> smaller engine than the Perkins, as well as ease of access, etc. However,
> we'd consider a 35 or 38 also if 30 horsepower wasn't enough power.
>
>
>
> At the same time we'll be replacing the fixed 2 blade prop with a 3 blade
> feathering or folding prop, so will be looking for recommendations for
> that. The current prop is totally wrong. I think it's 16x14. We never
> were able to get up to the proper engine speed with the 4-108. Can you
> recommend something? What have people tried?
>
>
>
> Interested in hearing others' experiences.
>
>
>
> Gary Niemi
> g...@niemi.co.nz
>
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Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Your Atomic Four in good shape will attract a buyer.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Bailey White via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a little envy of diesel boats as I have a 36 with atomic four and a 
> reversing gear that has been a challenge for two years.  I've found the issue 
> after working with a local mechanic, but it looks like it will require the 
> engine to be pulled to fully correct.  At least I have learned to dock and 
> pick up moorings well, but it is not recommended.
> 
> We may have a workaround shortly, but it has made me think of moving to 
> something like a used 30GM Yanmar.  Besides cost and my interest to spend on 
> sails instead, my other hesitancy is noise and vibration.  I sail on Lake 
> Lanier in Georgia, so fuel efficiency is not a concern as I can't travel all 
> that far.  The atomic four is pretty pleasant to cruise on a windless day, 
> and I wonder how much louder and more vibration a diesel would bring.
> 
> Bailey White
> 1979 C 36
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

You won’t see any Kubota tractor dealers in the Bahamas or the Caribbean...

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and somewhere on the 
ICW in between)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Jun 30, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jeeze Bob, Sorry, I didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers, I was just relaying 
> what this long time owner of a neighboring  C said.  He didn’t have the 
> same top end in big waves as he had before the repower.   And As David 
> mentioned, you can get parts for Beta’s anywhere they sell Kubota Tractors, 
> which is everywhere in the world..  My 37.5 HP  is the same engine as my 
> Mower, minus one Cylinder, so I could use the same Oil, filters, injectors, 
> etc .
>  
> Bill Coleman
>  
> From: Robert Boyer [mailto:dainyr...@icloud.com] 
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 1:06 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Bill Coleman
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38
>  
> I have all the power I need with my new Yanmar 3YM30AE.  I’m not sure where 
> you are getting your information that you need more than 30 HP.
>  
> One big disadvantage of Beta is that there are not nearly as many parts 
> distributors—this is more important if you cruise to foreign ports.
>  
> Bob
> 
> Bob Boyer
> S/V Rainy Days (1983 C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
> Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
> Email: dainyr...@icloud.com
> Annapolis, MD 
> (Presently in Baltimore MD for the summer)
> 
> 
> On Jun 26, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I agree, get yourself a nice Beta 37 ½ HP diesel, and a 3 blade flex-a – 
> fold. I replaced a 4-108 with one of those Kubota’s, the mounting was about  
> 2 inches narrower, I just had to get some 3” aluminum (or maybe 4”) angle to 
> replace the old steel angle.  You will be amazed at how much lighter it is 
> from the Perkins.
> An old slip neighbor also had a 39, he replaced his atomic with a 30 HP 
> Yanmar, and was disappointed with the loss in power.  But it will still get 
> you from A to B.
>  
>  
> Bill Coleman
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Niemi 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:55 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Gary Niemi
> Subject: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38
>  
> We are American expatriates who have sailed our 1981 C Landfall 38 to New 
> Zealand a decade ago. It has a Perkins 4-108, which is on its last legs. It's 
> not particularly reliable and is having trouble with overheating in the last 
> few years. Also, it's very heavy and it is way too much power anyway. We're 
> looking to replace it with a more reliable, modern power plant.
>  
> So we have a couple of questions:
>  
> What is the correct power? I understand most were sold with Yanmer 30hp 3HM 
> or 3QM diesels. We like the idea of saving a lot of weight with a smaller 
> engine than the Perkins, as well as ease of access, etc. However, we'd 
> consider a 35 or 38 also if 30 horsepower wasn't enough power.
>  
> At the same time we'll be replacing the fixed 2 blade prop with a 3 blade 
> feathering or folding prop, so will be looking for recommendations for that. 
> The current prop is totally wrong. I think it's 16x14. We never were able to 
> get up to the proper engine speed with the 4-108. Can you recommend 
> something? What have people tried?
>  
> Interested in hearing others' experiences.
>  
> Gary Niemi
> g...@niemi.co.nz
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Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

[Bailey White via CnC-List]

I have a little envy of diesel boats as I have a 36 with atomic four and a
reversing gear that has been a challenge for two years.  I've found the
issue after working with a local mechanic, but it looks like it will
require the engine to be pulled to fully correct.  At least I have learned
to dock and pick up moorings well, but it is not recommended.

We may have a workaround shortly, but it has made me think of moving to
something like a used 30GM Yanmar.  Besides cost and my interest to spend
on sails instead, my other hesitancy is noise and vibration.  I sail on
Lake Lanier in Georgia, so fuel efficiency is not a concern as I can't
travel all that far.  The atomic four is pretty pleasant to cruise on a
windless day, and I wonder how much louder and more vibration a diesel
would bring.

Bailey White
1979 C 36
Atlanta, GA
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Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

The Beta philosophy is that you DON’T need their dealers for parts. They are 
selling razors, not the blades like Yanmar or Volvo.


Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com



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Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

Jeeze Bob, Sorry, I didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers, I was just relaying 
what this long time owner of a neighboring  C said.  He didn’t have the 
same top end in big waves as he had before the repower.   And As David 
mentioned, you can get parts for Beta’s anywhere they sell Kubota Tractors, 
which is everywhere in the world..  My 37.5 HP  is the same engine as my Mower, 
minus one Cylinder, so I could use the same Oil, filters, injectors, etc .

Bill Coleman

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Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Jeeze Bob, Sorry, I didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers, I was just relaying 
what this long time owner of a neighboring  C said.  He didn’t have the 
same top end in big waves as he had before the repower.   And As David 
mentioned, you can get parts for Beta’s anywhere they sell Kubota Tractors, 
which is everywhere in the world..  My 37.5 HP  is the same engine as my Mower, 
minus one Cylinder, so I could use the same Oil, filters, injectors, etc . 

 

Bill Coleman

 

From: Robert Boyer [mailto:dainyr...@icloud.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 1:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

 

I have all the power I need with my new Yanmar 3YM30AE.  I’m not sure where you 
are getting your information that you need more than 30 HP.

 

One big disadvantage of Beta is that there are not nearly as many parts 
distributors—this is more important if you cruise to foreign ports.

 

Bob

Bob Boyer

S/V Rainy Days (1983 C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)

Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

Email: dainyr...@icloud.com

Annapolis, MD 

(Presently in Baltimore MD for the summer)





On Jun 26, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
wrote:

 

I agree, get yourself a nice Beta 37 ½ HP diesel, and a 3 blade flex-a – fold. 
I replaced a 4-108 with one of those Kubota’s, the mounting was about  2 inches 
narrower, I just had to get some 3” aluminum (or maybe 4”) angle to replace the 
old steel angle.  You will be amazed at how much lighter it is from the Perkins.

An old slip neighbor also had a 39, he replaced his atomic with a 30 HP Yanmar, 
and was disappointed with the loss in power.  But it will still get you from A 
to B.

 

 

Bill Coleman

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Niemi 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:55 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Gary Niemi
Subject: Stus-List Re-power and prop for 1981 C Landfall 38

 

We are American expatriates who have sailed our 1981 C Landfall 38 to New 
Zealand a decade ago. It has a Perkins 4-108, which is on its last legs. It's 
not particularly reliable and is having trouble with overheating in the last 
few years. Also, it's very heavy and it is way too much power anyway. We're 
looking to replace it with a more reliable, modern power plant.

 

So we have a couple of questions:

 

What is the correct power? I understand most were sold with Yanmer 30hp 3HM or 
3QM diesels. We like the idea of saving a lot of weight with a smaller engine 
than the Perkins, as well as ease of access, etc. However, we'd consider a 35 
or 38 also if 30 horsepower wasn't enough power.

 

At the same time we'll be replacing the fixed 2 blade prop with a 3 blade 
feathering or folding prop, so will be looking for recommendations for that. 
The current prop is totally wrong. I think it's 16x14. We never were able to 
get up to the proper engine speed with the 4-108. Can you recommend something? 
What have people tried?

 

Interested in hearing others' experiences.

 

Gary Niemi
g...@niemi.co.nz

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Re: Stus-List Shortening the shaft log by cutting

[rockland bazemore via CnC-List]

That looks great! I assume you were getting excessive vibrations before? As
you know I do and my seal does leak some.
Where does the vent from the seal lead to? I assume you don't need the
cooling port that goes to your heat exchanger since you're motoring under
10 kts.
Also did the R Engine mounts lessen the vibration as well?
thanks
Rocky

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:15 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> So I needed to get launched and over to another marina for some extended
> maintenance.  It was a nice chance to see how the new drive train worked.
> Everything was fine and more or less "normal".  Shaft seal didn't leak and
> vented just fine, no new or excessive vibes in the drive line.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 09:02 Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I've asked a few of you personally so if this is a repeat then please
>> disregard.
>>
>> I'm in the process of replacing/rebuilding the drive train on my C
>> 37+.  In the process I'm replacing the shaft, shaft coupling, shaft seal
>> and strut bearing.
>>
>> The old seal was a PSS seal and the old coupling was a standard solid
>> coupling.  I had had a R Marine (PYI) coupling dampener and planned to
>> reuse.  The new seal is a Last Drop II from Sailor Sam's.  The new coupling
>> is a split coupling from R Marine.  The new seal and coupling have added
>> length which ultimately leaves only about 1.5 inches of free shaft at most.
>>
>> So here comes the question.
>>
>> First:  Any concerns with only having 1.5 inches of free shaft?  I have
>> 3.
>> - getting the coupling dampener installed requires the couplings to be
>> separated by not just the thickness of the dampener buy rather by the
>> thickness of the coupling bolts.
>> - getting the split coupling on could be complicated
>> - with the shaft seal bottomed out on the log there is less articulation
>> available in the seal tube.  The seal uses a delrin bearing to center
>> itself on the shaft but without room to flex the bearing will just ride
>> harder on the shaft and can even overheat.
>>
>> Second:
>> The seal engages with the shaft log by at least 4 inches.  If I cut the
>> log shorter, then I could push the seal deeper onto the log and get a bit
>> more free shaft and room for the seal to articulate.  Can any of you see
>> any drawbacks or pitfalls to cutting the log short?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
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Re: Stus-List Beta Engine Stalling

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

This may be a repeat – a cockpit visible fuel pressure gauge will give you some 
warning and allow you to find 101 different problems that would be about 
impossible to solve otherwise, both for A4s and diesels.
My pressure gauge has a red light that comes on below 1 PSI. It uses an 
electrical sender, so there are no fuel lines running around the boat for it, 
which is nice for those of us with gasoline for fuel.
Also a general observation – both A4s and diesels seem to be done in by 
accessories vastly more often than the engine itself just self-destructing.


Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com


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