Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

2020-07-22 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List
9.9 meters

 

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Cc: Joel Delamirande 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

 

Is 99 mean 99 feet boat

 

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:17 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I think Hull #1 had been modified to do that at some point.  The regular C 99 
comes with symmetric 200% spinnaker and J+1 pole.  A number have since been 
modified to add a small fixed sprit which has total sprit length no longer than 
Spinnaker pole length.  The four racing here (Halifax) do not use the 
sprit/asym a lot.

 

The 99 is a very nice boat

 

Mike Hoyt
Persistence

Halifax

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

 

Hi Chuck- I looked at a C 99 when I was buying my boat and it had an integral 
extending pole for an A sail.  I presumed that was standard on the 99, but the 
one in your video doesn’t have one.  Did some have them or was the one I looked 
at modified?  Dave

 

Dr. David Knecht

Professor, Department of Molecular and Cell Biology 

University of Connecticut 

91 N. Eagleville Rd 
 .

U-3125

Storrs, CT 06269-3125

 

 

 

On Jul 21, 2020, at 12:48 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Don, 

I wasn't there, but a crewman aboard the 99 told me the owner has a long 
rivalry with the J-109 which was flying an assymetric on a sprit, also.  He 
told me the 99 is for sale because the owner bought a J-109 cause it's faster 
upwind and points higher.   I find the video quite exciting with so many 
different boats so close together.  The essence of racing. 

 

Chuck   

On 07/21/2020 12:27 PM Donald Kern via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Chuck, 
Good demonstration of what happens when you decide to sail a smaller boat thru 
the lee of a bigger boat.  Especially dead downwind with a A-chute and the 
bigger  has a symmetric chute.   Unless the A-chute was in restricted water or 
closing the mark they should have been maxing their VMG by tacking downwind.  
Brings back memories of those blue and gold chutes - use to skipper the wood 
and first glass NA 44 yawls. Preferred the wood, they were faster; had no 
engines, less weight and drag.  Bristol YC and Herreshoff Marine Museum sponsor 
the boat school's 44s each June for the last 5yrs (missed this year of Offshore 
Training because of CORVID 19). 

Beat Army !! 
  
Don Kern 
Fireball C Mk2 
Bristol, RI 

On 7/21/2020 10:55 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote: 

I focus on the sailing ability in selecting a boat.  If you sail in a steady 
high winds, go big.  But if you are more like the rest of us and have low wind 
predominantly, I would steer toward the smallest, lightest model C that still 
has just enough interior to accommodate my family.  Smaller, lighter, hulls 
move first as the wind builds from a calm while heavier boats struggle until 
the wind gets up over 10 knots.  It takes much less wind to move a 10,000# boat 
than a 20,000# one.  Even less to move a 5000# boat like a 27 footer which has 
standing headroom and can be trailered home for the winter.  They will all sail 
to hullspeed once the wind reaches about 12 knots and then the longer waterline 
boat has a speed advantage, but under 10 knots which is predominantly what we 
sail in, the lighter boats win and are easier to singlehand and dock, etc.  
Check out this video of a C 99, a 32 footer catching a J109 and two Navy 44 
footers in a race. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBKifuS60Go 

 

I also prefer the C 34/36 model as I own the racing version w vee berths 
(removable for racing) and settee berths, pilot beths, a full width aft berth 
and two pipe berths.  We rate faster than the 40 and the bigger sister, the 
37/40 rates faster still, though I think the 34/36 was an improvement over it.  

Check out the brochures on Stu's cncphotoalbum.com   

  

 

Chuck Scheaffer Resolute 1989 C 34R Pasadena, Md 

 

   

On 07/21/2020 9:55 AM Nathan Post via CnC-List   
 wrote: 

 

 

Welcome Jeff, 

 

Something to keep in mind is that a 40 is almost twice as much boat compared to 
a 34 or 35 (18000+ lbs rather than 1 or so. Everything is bigger, heavier 
and more expensive.   And it can also get more complicated to sail - does it 
have running backstays?  I think that a 38 such as Ocean Phoenix does have 
running backstays - not sure about the 40.  My 34 does not.  Not a big deal for 
long passages, but we tend to go out to tool around for an evening 

Re: Stus-List Fuel lift pump

2020-07-22 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
1/4 inch

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 19:46 Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I picked up a new lift play today and will install it soon.  I am
> considering adding an electric pump between the tank and the lift pump.
> Does anyone know the inside diameter of that feed fuel line?  I think I
> ought to know before I cut mine.
>
> thx
>
>
>
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:24:53 -0400
> From: Len Mitchell 
> To: CNC List 
> Subject: Stus-List Fuel lift pump
> Message-ID: <2d4555d9-68ac-462d-b1e4-fbcbc24be...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Joe, I like the remote fuel pressure gauge! That looks like aviation or
> race car technology. Tom is trying to find out why he can?t get that last
> 15 gallons of fuel. I believe Josh has the same Yanmar and believe he
> posted his vacuum numbers so there is something to compare to. He can also
> shut off the fuel valve when running the engine and get a sense of what
> vacuum the fuel pump is drawing. If it won?t hold vacuum maybe there is an
> air leak somewhere. If the pump won?t make 1 inch of mercury he knows it?s
> probably a pump problem. That?s all I was trying to suggest before he gets
> into a new pump. And as a bonus for around 20$ he will also have a primary
> fuel filter monitor.
> Len
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
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>
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> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
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Stus-List Fuel lift pump

2020-07-22 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
I picked up a new lift play today and will 
install it soon.  I am considering adding an 
electric pump between the tank and the lift 
pump.  Does anyone know the inside diameter of 
that feed fuel line?  I think I ought to know before I cut mine.


thx





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:24:53 -0400
From: Len Mitchell 
To: CNC List 
Subject: Stus-List Fuel lift pump
Message-ID: <2d4555d9-68ac-462d-b1e4-fbcbc24be...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Joe, I like the remote fuel pressure gauge! That 
looks like aviation or race car technology. Tom 
is trying to find out why he can?t get that last 
15 gallons of fuel. I believe Josh has the same 
Yanmar and believe he posted his vacuum numbers 
so there is something to compare to. He can also 
shut off the fuel valve when running the engine 
and get a sense of what vacuum the fuel pump is 
drawing. If it won?t hold vacuum maybe there is 
an air leak somewhere. If the pump won?t make 1 
inch of mercury he knows it?s probably a pump 
problem. That?s all I was trying to suggest 
before he gets into a new pump. And as a bonus 
for around 20$ he will also have a primary fuel filter monitor.

Len

Sent from my mobile device.


--


.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

2020-07-22 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
 Nice boats

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:19 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> C 99's were about 9.9 meters.  About 32-33 feet.  It's the black hull
> with the 3 white boot stripes.  Note how it collapses the red chute as it
> rolls over it.
>
> It tried to go under the boat shooting the video.  Not the best option.
> It would have struggled in the wind shadow of that boat.  Finally they
> decided to go over the top of the fleet.  Better but one of those
> boats could have run them up.  The best strategy would have been to set up
> a passing lane well to the windward of the fleet very early on the downwind
> leg depending on how long the leg was.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBKifuS60Go
>
>   --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Is 99 mean 99 feet boat
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

2020-07-22 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
C 99's were about 9.9 meters.  About 32-33 feet.  It's the black hull
with the 3 white boot stripes.  Note how it collapses the red chute as it
rolls over it.

It tried to go under the boat shooting the video.  Not the best option.  It
would have struggled in the wind shadow of that boat.  Finally they decided
to go over the top of the fleet.  Better but one of those boats could have
run them up.  The best strategy would have been to set up a passing lane
well to the windward of the fleet very early on the downwind leg depending
on how long the leg was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBKifuS60Go

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Is 99 mean 99 feet boat
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Prettiest C

2020-07-22 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Thanks for the compliment.

I recall a race on the South Shore years ago.  Whistling Wind II was
inshore of us powered up with a 170 and screaming down the beach.  Really
impressive sight.  Yes, WWII was a beautiful boat.

Maybe you recall 2003 when Touche', Whistling Wind II and Tiare (a red Cal
48? for listers) all won their classes in the LPRC.  As each boat
representative came up to claim prizes, the crowd would shout "Red boat!
Red boat!"

Of course, for our success, the PHRF gods docked each of the red boats.  :(
  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM Edward Levert via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Dennis with all due respect the all time prettiest C on Lake
> Pontchartrain was Whistling Wind II a Redline 41. She unfortunately was a
> casualty of Hurricane Rita having survived Katrina weeks earlier. That
> leaves Touché as the current top beauty.
>
> Ed Levert
> C 34 Briar Patch
> New Orleans
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Bay Area sailing items

2020-07-22 Thread Mazen Aziz via CnC-List
Hi Joel, are you in the Bay Area? If so would you like to stop by and check 
what I have? I’m in oyster point marina



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali


On Jul 22, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
 wrote:


I’ll need new sails mine are 25 years old

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:59 PM Mazen Aziz via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

In the Bay Area and selling few items of anyone is interested. Here is the ad, 
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bpo/d/south-san-francisco-sails-spinnaker/7160697684.html

Thanks,



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali

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Re: Stus-List Bay Area sailing items

2020-07-22 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
I’ll need new sails mine are 25 years old

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:59 PM Mazen Aziz via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> In the Bay Area and selling few items of anyone is interested. Here is the
> ad,
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bpo/d/south-san-francisco-sails-spinnaker/7160697684.html
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> MAZEN AZIZ
> *https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz
> *
>
> “To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky
> is home. “Jerry Crawford
>
> "I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a
> very simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to
> make you think." Zaha Hadid
>
> "It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble
> in your shoe." Muhammad Ali
>
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Re: Stus-List Prettiest C

2020-07-22 Thread Edward Levert via CnC-List
Dennis with all due respect the all time prettiest C on Lake Pontchartrain 
was Whistling Wind II a Redline 41. She unfortunately was a casualty of 
Hurricane Rita having survived Katrina weeks earlier. That leaves Touché as the 
current top beauty.

Ed Levert
C 34 Briar Patch
New Orleans

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 4:55 PM, JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> The tank test model of the 61 is now in the Canadian Museum of History in 
> Hull Quebec
> 
> JK
> 
> Motion Designs Limited
> 647 990 7752
> 
>> 
>> Wow a C in a museum 
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

2020-07-22 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
Is 99 mean 99 feet boat

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:17 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I think Hull #1 had been modified to do that at some point.  The regular
> C 99 comes with symmetric 200% spinnaker and J+1 pole.  A number have
> since been modified to add a small fixed sprit which has total sprit length
> no longer than Spinnaker pole length.  The four racing here (Halifax) do
> not use the sprit/asym a lot.
>
>
>
> The 99 is a very nice boat
>
>
>
> Mike Hoyt
> Persistence
>
> Halifax
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *David
> Knecht via CnC-List
> *Sent:* July 21, 2020 2:13 PM
> *To:* CnC CnC discussion list 
> *Cc:* David Knecht 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat
>
>
>
> Hi Chuck- I looked at a C 99 when I was buying my boat and it had an
> integral extending pole for an A sail.  I presumed that was standard on the
> 99, but the one in your video doesn’t have one.  Did some have them or was
> the one I looked at modified?  Dave
>
>
>
> Dr. David Knecht
>
> Professor, Department of Molecular and Cell Biology
>
> University of Connecticut
>
> 91 N. Eagleville Rd
> 
> .
>
> U-3125
>
> Storrs, CT 06269-3125
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2020, at 12:48 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Don,
>
> I wasn't there, but a crewman aboard the 99 told me the owner has a long
> rivalry with the J-109 which was flying an assymetric on a sprit, also.  He
> told me the 99 is for sale because the owner bought a J-109 cause it's
> faster upwind and points higher.   I find the video quite exciting with so
> many different boats so close together.  The essence of racing.
>
>
>
> Chuck
>
> On 07/21/2020 12:27 PM Donald Kern via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Chuck,
> Good demonstration of what happens when you decide to sail a smaller boat
> thru the lee of a bigger boat.  Especially dead downwind with a A-chute and
> the bigger  has a symmetric chute.   Unless the A-chute was in restricted
> water or closing the mark they should have been maxing their VMG by tacking
> downwind.
> Brings back memories of those blue and gold chutes - use to skipper the
> wood and first glass NA 44 yawls. Preferred the wood, they were faster; had
> no engines, less weight and drag.  Bristol YC and Herreshoff Marine Museum
> sponsor the boat school's 44s each June for the last 5yrs (missed this year
> of Offshore Training because of CORVID 19).
>
> Beat Army !!
>
> Don Kern
> Fireball C Mk2
> Bristol, RI
>
> On 7/21/2020 10:55 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I focus on the sailing ability in selecting a boat.  If you sail in a
> steady high winds, go big.  But if you are more like the rest of us and
> have low wind predominantly, I would steer toward the smallest, lightest
> model C that still has just enough interior to accommodate my family.
> Smaller, lighter, hulls move first as the wind builds from a calm while
> heavier boats struggle until the wind gets up over 10 knots.  It takes much
> less wind to move a 10,000# boat than a 20,000# one.  Even less to move a
> 5000# boat like a 27 footer which has standing headroom and can be
> trailered home for the winter.  They will all sail to hullspeed once the
> wind reaches about 12 knots and then the longer waterline boat has a speed
> advantage, but under 10 knots which is predominantly what we sail in, the
> lighter boats win and are easier to singlehand and dock, etc.  Check out
> this video of a C 99, a 32 footer catching a J109 and two Navy 44 footers
> in a race.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBKifuS60Go
>
>
>
> I also prefer the C 34/36 model as I own the racing version w vee berths
> (removable for racing) and settee berths, pilot beths, a full width aft
> berth and two pipe berths.  We rate faster than the 40 and the bigger
> sister, the 37/40 rates faster still, though I think the 34/36 was an
> improvement over it.
>
> Check out the brochures on Stu's cncphotoalbum.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Chuck Scheaffer Resolute 1989 C 34R Pasadena, Md
>
>
>
>
>
> On 07/21/2020 9:55 AM Nathan Post via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Welcome Jeff,
>
>
>
> Something to keep in mind is that a 40 is almost twice as much boat
> compared to a 34 or 35 (18000+ lbs rather than 1 or so. Everything is
> bigger, heavier and more expensive.   And it can also get more complicated
> to sail - does it have running backstays?  I think that a 38 such as Ocean
> Phoenix does have running backstays - not sure about the 40.  My 34 does
> not.  Not a big deal for long passages, but we tend to go out to tool
> around for an evening tacking and jibing a dozen times in the process or go
> sail around the islands outside of Marblehead and Beverly and I would
> prefer to sail rather than motor whenever possible if there is any wind
> (which is why it is nice to have a light C that will move in light air).
> Dockage, 

Re: Stus-List Prettiest C

2020-07-22 Thread JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List
The tank test model of the 61 is now in the Canadian Museum of History in Hull 
Quebec

JK

Motion Designs Limited
647 990 7752

> 
> Wow a C in a museum 
> 


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Re: Stus-List Prettiest C

2020-07-22 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
Wow a C in a museum

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 3:57 PM Robert Mazza via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Actually, Red Jacket was white. ;-)
>
> Red Jacket was recently donated to the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at
> Kingston by the late Peter Milligan. Delivery has been delayed until next
> year due to the current Covid 19 situation. The Museum,  of course, holds
> the entire George Cuthbertson and C Yachts drawing collections, as well
> as the George Hinterhoeller drawings, so it is an appropriate home for this
> remarkable vessel.
>
> Rob Mazza
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 3:46 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List, <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Regardless of which model you think is the prettiest, C's should honor
>> their "daddy" and be painted RED!
>>
>> --
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Prettiest C

2020-07-22 Thread schiller via CnC-List

Dennis,

Yes, but even Red Pepper (Redwing 35, Hull #7) was a white hull with 
naval gray decks!  White goes with everything!


Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
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Regardless of which model you think is the prettiest, C's should 
honor their "daddy" and be painted RED!


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2020-07-22 Thread Robert Mazza via CnC-List
Actually, Red Jacket was white. ;-)

Red Jacket was recently donated to the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at
Kingston by the late Peter Milligan. Delivery has been delayed until next
year due to the current Covid 19 situation. The Museum,  of course, holds
the entire George Cuthbertson and C Yachts drawing collections, as well
as the George Hinterhoeller drawings, so it is an appropriate home for this
remarkable vessel.

Rob Mazza


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2020-07-22 Thread WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List

You might not say it out loud, but you do have a favorite...boat that is..Bill 
Walker C 36Pentwater, Michigan

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2020-07-22 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Amen Dennis

HONEY - US12788 is vivid red.

Best regards,
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C 39TM - 1974

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> their "daddy" and be painted RED!
>
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2020-07-22 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Regardless of which model you think is the prettiest, C's should honor
their "daddy" and be painted RED!

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Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

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OK you guys are gonna start another war!   On the other hand, of, course, 
everyone agrees that the 40 is the second prettiest boat in the fleet

Richard
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Subject: Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions
David, I agree that the 40 is the prettiest C, but I think she looks best in 
a lighter color...say, Pearl Gray, for instance. :)
Andy
Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
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I have had a 40 for 16 years.

Costs aside…

She is very seaworthy (BMD and back 3 times in “stuff”).  Easily handled.  
Easily de-powered.  Incredibly maneuverable (forwards of backwards).  Amazing 
in light air.  Sails rings around other boats with just a headsail (barely use 
the main on Buzzards Bay).

And IMHO the prettiest profile (especially in Flag Blue).

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The C 51 was designed as a centerboarder from the start, and the board is 
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We did a hydraulic lift for that . . . . . a tackle arrangement so the cylinder 
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Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-22 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
I've arranged a showing for a Landfall 38 this weekend as well it seems.
I'm a little leery of the teak toe rail/deck joint.

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> The dog of course!
>
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2020-07-22 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
I'm a big fan of dark glossy blue myslef

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> David, I agree that the 40 is the prettiest C, but I think she looks
> best in a lighter color...say, Pearl Gray, for instance. :)
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
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> On Jul 21, 2020, at 17:58, David Risch via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I have had a 40 for 16 years.
>
>
>
> Costs aside…
>
>
>
> She is very seaworthy (BMD and back 3 times in “stuff”).  Easily handled.
> Easily de-powered.  Incredibly maneuverable (forwards of backwards).
> Amazing in light air.  Sails rings around other boats with just a headsail
> (barely use the main on Buzzards Bay).
>
>
>
> And IMHO the prettiest profile (especially in Flag Blue).
>
>
>
> David F. Risch
>
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> The C 51 was designed as a centerboarder from the start, and the board
> is full of lead.
>
>
>
> We did a hydraulic lift for that . . . . . a tackle arrangement so the
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2020-07-22 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
The dog of course!

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That’s like asking you which of your children do you like best . . . . .

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2020-07-22 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
That’s like asking you which of your children do you like best . . . . .

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2020-07-22 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
… with the 37/40+ being the first…. 

All the best,

Edd


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OK you guys are gonna start another war!   On the other hand, of, course, 
everyone agrees that the 40 is the second prettiest boat in the fleet

Richard
s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584;


Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255


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Subject: Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

David, I agree that the 40 is the prettiest C, but I think she looks best in 
a lighter color...say, Pearl Gray, for instance. :)
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

www.burtonsailing.com 
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On Jul 21, 2020, at 17:58, David Risch via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I have had a 40 for 16 years.  
 
Costs aside…
 
She is very seaworthy (BMD and back 3 times in “stuff”).  Easily handled.  
Easily de-powered.  Incredibly maneuverable (forwards of backwards).  Amazing 
in light air.  Sails rings around other boats with just a headsail (barely use 
the main on Buzzards Bay).  
 
And IMHO the prettiest profile (especially in Flag Blue).   
 
David F. Risch
Managing Director
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The C 51 was designed as a centerboarder from the start, and the board is 
full of lead.
 
We did a hydraulic lift for that . . . . . a tackle arrangement so the cylinder 
moves about one quarter the distance needed to pull up the board.
 
Rob Ball
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2020-07-22 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
 OK you guys are gonna start another war!   On the other hand, of, course, 
everyone agrees that the 40 is the second prettiest boat in the fleet
 
Richard
 s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584;


Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
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Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
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David, I agree that the 40 is the prettiest C, but I think she looks best in 
a lighter color...say, Pearl Gray, for instance. :)Andy

Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA    02840
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  Costs aside…    She is very seaworthy (BMD and back 3 times in “stuff”).  
Easily handled.  Easily de-powered.  Incredibly maneuverable (forwards of 
backwards).  Amazing in light air.  Sails rings around other boats with just a 
headsail (barely use the main on Buzzards Bay).      And IMHO the prettiest 
profile (especially in Flag Blue).       David F. Risch Managing Director Great 
Benefits USA 401-419-4650 - Direct Line  www.greatbenefitsusa.com    The 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions    The C 51 was 
designed as a centerboarder from the start, and the board is full of lead.    
We did a hydraulic lift for that . . . . . a tackle arrangement so the cylinder 
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2020-07-22 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
David, I agree that the 40 is the prettiest C, but I think she looks best in 
a lighter color...say, Pearl Gray, for instance. :)
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
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> On Jul 21, 2020, at 17:58, David Risch via CnC-List  
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> 
> I have had a 40 for 16 years. 
>  
> Costs aside…
>  
> She is very seaworthy (BMD and back 3 times in “stuff”).  Easily handled.  
> Easily de-powered.  Incredibly maneuverable (forwards of backwards).  Amazing 
> in light air.  Sails rings around other boats with just a headsail (barely 
> use the main on Buzzards Bay). 
>  
> And IMHO the prettiest profile (especially in Flag Blue).  
>  
> David F. Risch
> Managing Director
> Great Benefits USA
> 401-419-4650 - Direct Line
> 
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> The C 51 was designed as a centerboarder from the start, and the board is 
> full of lead.
>  
> We did a hydraulic lift for that . . . . . a tackle arrangement so the 
> cylinder moves about one quarter the distance needed to pull up the board.
>  
> Rob Ball
> C 34
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Stus-List Fuel lift pump

2020-07-22 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
Joe, I like the remote fuel pressure gauge! That looks like aviation or race 
car technology. Tom is trying to find out why he can’t get that last 15 gallons 
of fuel. I believe Josh has the same Yanmar and believe he posted his vacuum 
numbers so there is something to compare to. He can also shut off the fuel 
valve when running the engine and get a sense of what vacuum the fuel pump is 
drawing. If it won’t hold vacuum maybe there is an air leak somewhere. If the 
pump won’t make 1 inch of mercury he knows it’s probably a pump problem. That’s 
all I was trying to suggest before he gets into a new pump. And as a bonus for 
around 20$ he will also have a primary fuel filter monitor. 
Len 

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Re: Stus-List Fuel Lift Pump

2020-07-22 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
I am wondering if there is a chance that is not your original 40 Gal fuel tank?

Try measuring it and calculate the total capacity.  Minus the air space you 
can’t fill up to the top.

 

Bill Coleman




 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom 
Buscaglia via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 7:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Tom Buscaglia
Subject: Stus-List Fuel Lift Pump

 

So, if I understand recent responses to my recent post on running out of fuel 
at less than an empty tank, the theory is that with a weak fuel lift pump at a 
certain fuel level in the tank, the pump would stop lifting fuel, thereby 
causing the engine to run out of fuel.

 

So, guess I’ll take a shot at replacing it and seeing if that solves the 
problem.

 

Anyone replace the fuel lift pump on a Yanmar 3HM35F?  I am wondering if the 
arm that rides the cam is above the at recast engine oil level.

thx

 

Tom Buscaglia

S/V Alera 

1990 C 37+/40

Vashon WA

P 206.463.9200

C 305.409.3660

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Fuel lift pump

2020-07-22 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
Vacuum gauges are useful, but they only tell half the story. No vacuum 
can indicate all is well or it can indicate the fuel pump failed. The 
engine - gas or diesel - could not care less about vacuum, it wants fuel.


If you get this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pressure-Transducer-Gauge-15-psi-2-1-16-52mm-analog-voltage-input-LED-light/252098516378?hash=item3ab23e159a:g:DRYAAOSwLghZsBuZ

and this

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pressure-transducer-sender-15-psi-12V-10-25V-wide-for-oil-fuel-air-water/262874558318?hash=item3d348b6f6e:g:mv0AAOSwIwJZgn8t:sc:USPSFirstClass!21666!US!-1

You will see your fuel pressure and the gauge lights up red if it goes 
below 3 PSI. They are available in various ranges, I use a 5 PSI version 
for my A4 that lights up at 1 PSI. The electric sender avoids running 
pressurized fuel around the boat, which is good in general and really 
good for gasoline.



Joe

Coquina



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Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-22 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
Hi Charles there a nice cnc 44 on yacht world
For 109 000

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:28 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> You could make a long stroke ram moving a 4 part block and tackle
> “backwards”, i.e. 1 foot of ram = 4 feet of line, but then it would be
> pumping vs. cranking unless you got a trim pump from an I/O to do it with a
> button.
>
> J
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Charlie
> Nelson via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:59 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* cenel...@aol.com
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions
>
>
>
> I am hardly an expert on 'purchase' regarding hydraulics but the issue
> with a board might be that it has to be physically moved up 3-4 feet--i.e.
> its more than just the tension applied.
>
>
>
> Charlie Nelson
>
> 36 XL/kcb Water Phantom
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