Stus-List Bow anchor roller

[WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List]

Anyone installed bow anchor roller on a C?  Photo?  Offline to me at 
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Re: Stus-List 35-3

[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Very appreciate your recommendations Alan and Dennis. Can’t wait to take her 
sailing.

Ian, I’m in oyster point marina for now by the airport till I move her to 
clippers by you next month. Would you like to go sailing sometime? Mine is 
getting hull out on Monday for the survey and bottom paint but should be back 
in about 10 days.

Mazen Aziz
C enterprise
San Francisco



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz



"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid


"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali

On Jul 24, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
wrote:


OK to change the fore stay to wire when installing a Harken furler.  I removed 
a Hood Seafoil (twin slot rod) from my boat in 1999 and replaced it with a 
Harken furler and wire forestay.  No issues.

Re-head the rest of the rod rigging and keep it rod.  Rod rigging generally 
fails at the head.  The rod is most likely still OK.  The rod can be coiled to 
no LESS than 200 times rod diameter and shipped for re-heading.

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:15 PM Mazen Aziz via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

New 35-3 enterprise owner Here in the Bay Area. Love the boat and want to take 
your opinions here. Boat has original standing riggings and currently going 
thru changing halyards and standing riggings. Few questions,

1- planning to change my forestay twinstay rod with wire system harken furler. 
Is this a good move?
2- back stay is a rod hydrolic system and planning to change the system with a 
wire system too, any recommendations on what to go with?
3- lastly and most important, all the standing riggings are rod and heard it’s 
very challengy to change it to wire. Should I keep it a rod system? Is it smart 
to go half wire for the front/back stay and half rod for the standing riggings?

Appreciate your time here in advance and would love to meet local C sailors 
too,



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali

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Re: Stus-List 35-3

[Ian Matthew via CnC-List]

Hi Mazen

Where in the Bay Area do you keep your boat?

I have a C 29-1 which I love. I am based at Paradise Cay near Tiburon.  I
have done many projects on my boat although I never had rod rigging so
never had to worry about that.

Feel free to contact me directly for local information etc.

You’ll love the boat - I am certain

Ian Matthew
C 29-1. “Siento el Viento”
San Francisco Bay


On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 12:15 PM Mazen Aziz via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> New 35-3 enterprise owner Here in the Bay Area. Love the boat and want to
> take your opinions here. Boat has original standing riggings and currently
> going thru changing halyards and standing riggings. Few questions,
>
> 1- planning to change my forestay twinstay rod with wire system harken
> furler. Is this a good move?
> 2- back stay is a rod hydrolic system and planning to change the system
> with a wire system too, any recommendations on what to go with?
> 3- lastly and most important, all the standing riggings are rod and heard
> it’s very challengy to change it to wire. Should I keep it a rod system? Is
> it smart to go half wire for the front/back stay and half rod for the
> standing riggings?
>
> Appreciate your time here in advance and would love to meet local C
> sailors too,
>
>
>
> MAZEN AZIZ
> *https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz
> *
>
> “To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky
> is home. “Jerry Crawford
>
> "I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a
> very simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to
> make you think." Zaha Hadid
>
> "It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble
> in your shoe." Muhammad Ali
>
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> --
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Re: Stus-List Stringer and Keel repair 35 MK III

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Is there a structural problem for C 35’s

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 1:35 PM David Swensen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> That is quite a process. The yard suggested about 20k for that extent of a
> repair. From what the surveyor sounded out, it seems to be a much smaller
> sectionof the grid.
>
> So to restore as much structural integrity, Iwill have raise the hull off
> the keel by a few inches on jackstands, replace/ restore the stringers, and
> then rebed and glass in the keel.
>
> This I can do in my back yard. I think a lift would be necessary to
> address any possible cracks in the fiberglass where the keel bolt holes are
> drilled through.
>
> The yard also suggested just rebedding shimming, and glassing the keel
> hull joint a as a less expensive option, and seeing how long it lasts. I am
> leaning toward addressing the stringers for a longer term solution. Whereas
> I would be doing most of t he work, I am glad to have this list and all the
> knowledge you guys and gals have.
>
> David
> S/v Freya
> 35 MK lII
> Salem, MA
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 12:00 PM  wrote:
>
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>>1. Re:  Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III (CHARLES SCHEAFFER)
>>2. Re:  Folding deck chairs (Marek Dziedzic)
>>3. Re:  Folding deck chairs (Matthew)
>>4. Re:  Folding deck chairs (Dennis C.)
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:02:26 -0400 (EDT)
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III
>> That repair job cost more than three times the value of the boat.   Where
>> are the keel bolts?   Awlgrip in the bilge?   Ch-ching $$$
>>
>> CS
>>
>> On 07/24/2020 8:32 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Coincidentally, I was just perusing a site yesterday that touched on this
>> – a repair yard on the Hudson.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://marinestructuralsolutions.com/?page=jobs
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Coleman
>>
>> Entrada, Erie PA
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David
>> Swensen via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:52 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* David Swensen
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, I had to haul Feya because of a leaking at the most aft
>> keel bolt. The surveyor at the yard has determined that the boat was
>> grounded at one time and there is at least one stringer that has
>> separated from the hull. ( I wish the surveyor for the purchase found
>> this). When the hull is sounded in that area, it sounds like there
>> are marbles inside. The plan is to repair the stringer and rebed and glass
>> in the keel. I will be able to bring the boat to my backyard and do it on
>> my time. I will have the yard rebed because they will drop the keel and
>> eval the condition of the bottom of the keel stub, and repair if necessary.
>> They will also place shims to decrease play at the joint.
>>
>>
>> My question is, should the stringer be repaired before or after the keel
>> hull joint?
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> David Swensen
>>
>> Freya
>>
>> C 35 MK III
>>
>> Salem, MA
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>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Marek Dziedzic 
>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 15:19:34 +
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs
>>
>> We have an older version of the WM low-back seat (it is a bit higher, I
>> think, than what WM sells now, and it does not have the opening at the
>> hinge). We use it all the time. WM used to have a longer back version, as
>> well.
>>
>>
>>
>> It supports your back quite well and it can be used flat, as a cockpit
>> cushion.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have cockpit cushions, but usually, we just use these folding seats
>> instead.
>>
>>
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List *On Behalf Of *Edd Schillay via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* 24 July, 2020 10:37
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Edd Schillay 
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs
>>
>>
>>
>> David,
>>
>>
>>
>> I really like these:
>> 

Stus-List EV100 Wheel Pilot clutch

[Daniel Sheer via CnC-List]

 Just where I put the grease on mine to cure the squeal. It worked.
Dan SheerPegathy LF38Rock Creek off the Patapsco

  >        Here is a diagram that shows where to lube the clutch eccentrics:
>
>        
>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HNjG3Nxe0HabHO0ivSHWfduGj0Kd6VM3/view?usp=sharing
>
>        Let me know if there are problems viewing it. ?Dave
>
>        S/V Aries
>
>        1990 C 34+
>
>        New London, CT

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Re: Stus-List 35-3

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

Welcome to the group Mazen. You'll get a lot of information here. There is
also a C group on Facebook: C Sailboat Owners Group.
Wire forestay is ok with the new furler. Baby stay can also be wire.
Keep the rod rigging for the rest of the boat. If you have any concerns,
the rigging can be reheaded.
If you have any concerns about the hydraulics, Contact Lew Townsend in
Seattle (206) 498-7282.

Good luck with your new boat. BTW, when you sign off, list your name, boat
model, boat name and your location. It's helpful when people respond for
them to know what you're talking about. Replying about one boat model, may
not be the same advice someone would give for another one.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 12:15 PM Mazen Aziz via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> New 35-3 enterprise owner Here in the Bay Area. Love the boat and want to
> take your opinions here. Boat has original standing riggings and currently
> going thru changing halyards and standing riggings. Few questions,
>
> 1- planning to change my forestay twinstay rod with wire system harken
> furler. Is this a good move?
> 2- back stay is a rod hydrolic system and planning to change the system
> with a wire system too, any recommendations on what to go with?
> 3- lastly and most important, all the standing riggings are rod and heard
> it’s very challengy to change it to wire. Should I keep it a rod system? Is
> it smart to go half wire for the front/back stay and half rod for the
> standing riggings?
>
> Appreciate your time here in advance and would love to meet local C
> sailors too,
>
>
>
> MAZEN AZIZ
> *https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz
> *
>
> “To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky
> is home. “Jerry Crawford
>
> "I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a
> very simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to
> make you think." Zaha Hadid
>
> "It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble
> in your shoe." Muhammad Ali
>
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Re: Stus-List 35-3

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

OK to change the fore stay to wire when installing a Harken furler.  I
removed a Hood Seafoil (twin slot rod) from my boat in 1999 and replaced it
with a Harken furler and wire forestay.  No issues.

Re-head the rest of the rod rigging and keep it rod.  Rod rigging generally
fails at the head.  The rod is most likely still OK.  The rod can be coiled
to no LESS than 200 times rod diameter and shipped for re-heading.

-- 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:15 PM Mazen Aziz via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> New 35-3 enterprise owner Here in the Bay Area. Love the boat and want to
> take your opinions here. Boat has original standing riggings and currently
> going thru changing halyards and standing riggings. Few questions,
>
> 1- planning to change my forestay twinstay rod with wire system harken
> furler. Is this a good move?
> 2- back stay is a rod hydrolic system and planning to change the system
> with a wire system too, any recommendations on what to go with?
> 3- lastly and most important, all the standing riggings are rod and heard
> it’s very challengy to change it to wire. Should I keep it a rod system? Is
> it smart to go half wire for the front/back stay and half rod for the
> standing riggings?
>
> Appreciate your time here in advance and would love to meet local C
> sailors too,
>
>
>
> MAZEN AZIZ
> *https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz
> *
>
> “To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky
> is home. “Jerry Crawford
>
> "I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a
> very simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to
> make you think." Zaha Hadid
>
> "It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble
> in your shoe." Muhammad Ali
>
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Stus-List 35-3

[Mazen Aziz via CnC-List]

Hi all,

New 35-3 enterprise owner Here in the Bay Area. Love the boat and want to take 
your opinions here. Boat has original standing riggings and currently going 
thru changing halyards and standing riggings. Few questions,

1- planning to change my forestay twinstay rod with wire system harken furler. 
Is this a good move?
2- back stay is a rod hydrolic system and planning to change the system with a 
wire system too, any recommendations on what to go with?
3- lastly and most important, all the standing riggings are rod and heard it’s 
very challengy to change it to wire. Should I keep it a rod system? Is it smart 
to go half wire for the front/back stay and half rod for the standing riggings?

Appreciate your time here in advance and would love to meet local C sailors 
too,



MAZEN AZIZ
https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz

“To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is 
home. “Jerry Crawford

"I don't think that architecture is only about shelter, is only about a very 
simple enclosure. It should be able to excite you, to calm you, to make you 
think." Zaha Hadid

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in 
your shoe." Muhammad Ali

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Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I made a few seat bases many years ago for a neighbor, they were simply a SS 
(or could be aluminum) plate welded to a hexish stub machined to fit into the 
cockpit coaming Winches.  Then a simple plastic seat screwed onto the plate. 

Not this, but kind of like it.

 

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/springfield--traveler-folding-injection-molded-shell-gray--14232771?recordNum=1

 


Those winches take up some prime real estate around the cockpit, and they make 
a nice solid base.  I thought about selling them, but then I relaxed and the 
feeling went away.

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 



 






 

On Jul 24, 2020, at 10:28 AM, James Hesketh via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 

 

 

David wrote:

We do not have cockpit cushions an Aries, so have been considering some sort of 
folding deck chair as a substitute for the rare times we are sitting in the 
cockpit or deck at anchor/mooring/slip.  I have seen various types of folding 
chairs at Boat Shows and Amazon.  Have people had good experiences with any of 
these products that they can recommend? 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Stringer and Keel repair 35 MK III

[Matthew via CnC-List]

Don’t live dangerously -- fix the stringers.

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of David Swensen via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 12:35 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David Swensen 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stringer and Keel repair 35 MK III

 

That is quite a process. The yard suggested about 20k for that extent of a 
repair. From what the surveyor sounded out, it seems to be a much smaller 
sectionof the grid. 

 

So to restore as much structural integrity, Iwill have raise the hull off the 
keel by a few inches on jackstands, replace/ restore the stringers, and then 
rebed and glass in the keel.

 

This I can do in my back yard. I think a lift would be necessary to address any 
possible cracks in the fiberglass where the keel bolt holes are drilled 
through. 

 

The yard also suggested just rebedding shimming, and glassing the keel hull 
joint a as a less expensive option, and seeing how long it lasts. I am leaning 
toward addressing the stringers for a longer term solution. Whereas I would be 
doing most of t he work, I am glad to have this list and all the knowledge you 
guys and gals have.

 

David

S/v Freya 

35 MK lII

Salem, MA

 

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   4. Re:  Folding deck chairs (Dennis C.)



-- Forwarded message --
From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net> 
>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:02:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III

That repair job cost more than three times the value of the boat.   Where are 
the keel bolts?   Awlgrip in the bilge?   Ch-ching $$$  

 

CS  

On 07/24/2020 8:32 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Coincidentally, I was just perusing a site yesterday that touched on this – a 
repair yard on the Hudson.

 

http://marinestructuralsolutions.com/?page=jobs

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie PA

 

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 ] On Behalf Of David Swensen via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:52 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: David Swensen
Subject: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III

 

Unfortunately, I had to haul Feya because of a leaking at the most aft keel 
bolt. The surveyor at the yard has determined that the boat was grounded at one 
time and there is at least one stringer that has separated from the hull. ( I 
wish the surveyor for the purchase found this). When the hull is sounded in 
that area, it sounds like there are marbles inside. The plan is to repair the 
stringer and rebed and glass in the keel. I will be able to bring the boat to 
my backyard and do it on my time. I will have the yard rebed because they will 
drop the keel and eval the condition of the bottom of the keel stub, and repair 
if necessary. They will also place shims to decrease play at the joint. 

 

My question is, should the stringer be repaired before or after the keel hull 
joint? 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

David Swensen

Freya

C 35 MK III

Salem, MA

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From: Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com> >
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com  " 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 15:19:34 +
Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs

We have an older version of the WM low-back seat (it is a bit higher, I think, 
than what WM sells now, and it does not have the opening at the hinge). We use 
it all the time. WM used to have a longer back version, as well.

 

It supports your back quite well and it can be used flat, as a cockpit cushion. 

 

We have cockpit cushions, but usually, we just use these folding seats instead.

 

Marek

 

From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Sent: 24 July, 2020 10:37
To: 

Re: Stus-List Stringer and Keel repair 35 MK III

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I added some longitudinal stringers to a 24 foot racer years ago.  The
owner wanted to strengthen the hull in the aft section.  I used preformed
foam core stringers like these.

https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/document.do?docId=679

They worked great.   Very easy to work with.

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:35 AM David Swensen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> That is quite a process. The yard suggested about 20k for that extent of a
> repair. From what the surveyor sounded out, it seems to be a much smaller
> sectionof the grid.
>
> So to restore as much structural integrity, Iwill have raise the hull off
> the keel by a few inches on jackstands, replace/ restore the stringers, and
> then rebed and glass in the keel.
>
> This I can do in my back yard. I think a lift would be necessary to
> address any possible cracks in the fiberglass where the keel bolt holes are
> drilled through.
>
> The yard also suggested just rebedding shimming, and glassing the keel
> hull joint a as a less expensive option, and seeing how long it lasts. I am
> leaning toward addressing the stringers for a longer term solution. Whereas
> I would be doing most of t he work, I am glad to have this list and all the
> knowledge you guys and gals have.
>
> David
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Stringer and Keel repair 35 MK III

[David Swensen via CnC-List]

That is quite a process. The yard suggested about 20k for that extent of a
repair. From what the surveyor sounded out, it seems to be a much smaller
sectionof the grid.

So to restore as much structural integrity, Iwill have raise the hull off
the keel by a few inches on jackstands, replace/ restore the stringers, and
then rebed and glass in the keel.

This I can do in my back yard. I think a lift would be necessary to address
any possible cracks in the fiberglass where the keel bolt holes are drilled
through.

The yard also suggested just rebedding shimming, and glassing the keel hull
joint a as a less expensive option, and seeing how long it lasts. I am
leaning toward addressing the stringers for a longer term solution. Whereas
I would be doing most of t he work, I am glad to have this list and all the
knowledge you guys and gals have.

David
S/v Freya
35 MK lII
Salem, MA

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>1. Re:  Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III (CHARLES SCHEAFFER)
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>4. Re:  Folding deck chairs (Dennis C.)
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:02:26 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III
> That repair job cost more than three times the value of the boat.   Where
> are the keel bolts?   Awlgrip in the bilge?   Ch-ching $$$
>
> CS
>
> On 07/24/2020 8:32 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>
> Coincidentally, I was just perusing a site yesterday that touched on this
> – a repair yard on the Hudson.
>
>
>
> http://marinestructuralsolutions.com/?page=jobs
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> Entrada, Erie PA
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David
> Swensen via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:52 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* David Swensen
> *Subject:* Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III
>
>
> Unfortunately, I had to haul Feya because of a leaking at the most aft
> keel bolt. The surveyor at the yard has determined that the boat was
> grounded at one time and there is at least one stringer that has
> separated from the hull. ( I wish the surveyor for the purchase found
> this). When the hull is sounded in that area, it sounds like there
> are marbles inside. The plan is to repair the stringer and rebed and glass
> in the keel. I will be able to bring the boat to my backyard and do it on
> my time. I will have the yard rebed because they will drop the keel and
> eval the condition of the bottom of the keel stub, and repair if necessary.
> They will also place shims to decrease play at the joint.
>
>
> My question is, should the stringer be repaired before or after the keel
> hull joint?
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> David Swensen
>
> Freya
>
> C 35 MK III
>
> Salem, MA
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Marek Dziedzic 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 15:19:34 +
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs
>
> We have an older version of the WM low-back seat (it is a bit higher, I
> think, than what WM sells now, and it does not have the opening at the
> hinge). We use it all the time. WM used to have a longer back version, as
> well.
>
>
>
> It supports your back quite well and it can be used flat, as a cockpit
> cushion.
>
>
>
> We have cockpit cushions, but usually, we just use these folding seats
> instead.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List *On Behalf Of *Edd Schillay via CnC-List
> *Sent:* 24 July, 2020 10:37
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Edd Schillay 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs
>
>
>
> David,
>
>
>
> I really like these:
> https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--go-anywhere-low-back-seat-2--10385656?recordNum=2
>
>
>
>
> Good support, easy to store, and can be used flat as a bench cushion in
> the cockpit. We use them all the time.
>
>
>
> For extra support, try this:
> https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--go-anywhere-high-back-seat--10967917?recordNum=1
>  VERY comfortable. My wife won’t go 

Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

We also used stadium chairs for a while.  They worked OK but we took them
off the boat for space and weight considerations.

Now we use folded beach towels and cushions from the settee and dinette
below.

On another note, we keep a folding table similar to one of these on board:

https://www.woodscanada.com/products/folding-camp-table

Stores easily in the hanging locker.  We use it in the cockpit or between
the settee and dinette when the dinette is converted to a bed.
  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:35 AM Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I watched a lot of my daughters’ volleyball games sitting on a product
> like this:
> https://www.amazon.com/Flash-Furniture-Seats-Stadium-Ultra-Padded/dp/B01DF0467O
>  or
> this:
> https://www.amazon.com/Smartxchoices-Portable-Bleacher-Shoulder-Lightweight/dp/B07NC9HQDZ.
> Beats hell out of wooden bleachers for hours on end.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs

[Matthew via CnC-List]

Coincidentally, David, one of my crew recently donated as a gift to the boat 
six of the chairs Edd likes (the first link).  We have only used them once, but 
they seem to work well and are comfortable.  They are a little large for 
certain areas in the cockpit.  My crew member said he wants to figure out a way 
to secure them to the top of the winches when we’re sitting around at the dock.

 

We also have regular cushions for the cockpit (without backs).  The upholsterer 
used some heavy duty closed cell foam which you would think would be 
uncomfortable but is actually quite comfortable.  For the covers, we used an 
outdoor fabric called Phifertex.  The fabric stands up to a lot of abuse and 
was almost a perfect match for my cockpit gelcoat.  They dress up the boat for 
entertaining.

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 10:37 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs

 

David,

 

I really like these: 
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--go-anywhere-low-back-seat-2--10385656?recordNum=2
 

 

Good support, easy to store, and can be used flat as a bench cushion in the 
cockpit. We use them all the time. 

 

For extra support, try this: 
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--go-anywhere-high-back-seat--10967917?recordNum=1
  VERY comfortable. My wife won’t go sailing without it. 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log  

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

We have an older version of the WM low-back seat (it is a bit higher, I think, 
than what WM sells now, and it does not have the opening at the hinge). We use 
it all the time. WM used to have a longer back version, as well.

It supports your back quite well and it can be used flat, as a cockpit cushion.

We have cockpit cushions, but usually, we just use these folding seats instead.

Marek

From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Sent: 24 July, 2020 10:37
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs

David,

I really like these: 
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--go-anywhere-low-back-seat-2--10385656?recordNum=2

Good support, easy to store, and can be used flat as a bench cushion in the 
cockpit. We use them all the time.

For extra support, try this: 
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--go-anywhere-high-back-seat--10967917?recordNum=1
  VERY comfortable. My wife won’t go sailing without it.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log












On Jul 24, 2020, at 10:28 AM, James Hesketh via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:



David wrote:
We do not have cockpit cushions an Aries, so have been considering some sort of 
folding deck chair as a substitute for the rare times we are sitting in the 
cockpit or deck at anchor/mooring/slip.  I have seen various types of folding 
chairs at Boat Shows and Amazon.  Have people had good experiences with any of 
these products that they can recommend?


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Re: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

That repair job cost more than three times the value of the boat.   Where are 
the keel bolts?   Awlgrip in the bilge?   Ch-ching $$$ 

CS 

> On 07/24/2020 8:32 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Coincidentally, I was just perusing a site yesterday that touched on this 
> – a repair yard on the Hudson.
> 
>  
> 
> http://marinestructuralsolutions.com/?page=jobs
> 
>  
> 
> Bill Coleman
> 
> Entrada, Erie PA
> 
>  
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David 
> Swensen via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:52 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: David Swensen
> Subject: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I had to haul Feya because of a leaking at the most aft 
> keel bolt. The surveyor at the yard has determined that the boat was grounded 
> at one time and there is at least one stringer that has separated from the 
> hull. ( I wish the surveyor for the purchase found this). When the hull is 
> sounded in that area, it sounds like there are marbles inside. The plan is to 
> repair the stringer and rebed and glass in the keel. I will be able to bring 
> the boat to my backyard and do it on my time. I will have the yard rebed 
> because they will drop the keel and eval the condition of the bottom of the 
> keel stub, and repair if necessary. They will also place shims to decrease 
> play at the joint. 
> 
> 
> My question is, should the stringer be repaired before or after the keel 
> hull joint? 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> David Swensen
> 
> Freya
> 
> C 35 MK III
> 
> Salem, MA
> 
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Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

David,

I really like these: 
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--go-anywhere-low-back-seat-2--10385656?recordNum=2
 

Good support, easy to store, and can be used flat as a bench cushion in the 
cockpit. We use them all the time. 

For extra support, try this: 
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--go-anywhere-high-back-seat--10967917?recordNum=1
  VERY comfortable. My wife won’t go sailing without it. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 











On Jul 24, 2020, at 10:28 AM, James Hesketh via CnC-List 
 wrote:



David wrote:
We do not have cockpit cushions an Aries, so have been considering some sort of 
folding deck chair as a substitute for the rare times we are sitting in the 
cockpit or deck at anchor/mooring/slip.  I have seen various types of folding 
chairs at Boat Shows and Amazon.  Have people had good experiences with any of 
these products that they can recommend? 


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Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

I watched a lot of my daughters’ volleyball games sitting on a product like 
this: 
https://www.amazon.com/Flash-Furniture-Seats-Stadium-Ultra-Padded/dp/B01DF0467O 

 or this: 
https://www.amazon.com/Smartxchoices-Portable-Bleacher-Shoulder-Lightweight/dp/B07NC9HQDZ
 
.
  Beats hell out of wooden bleachers for hours on end.

Cheers,
Randy

> On Jul 24, 2020, at 8:16 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> We do not have cockpit cushions an Aries, so have been considering some sort 
> of folding deck chair as a substitute for the rare times we are sitting in 
> the cockpit or deck at anchor/mooring/slip.  I have seen various types of 
> folding chairs at Boat Shows and Amazon.  Have people had good experiences 
> with any of these products that they can recommend?  Thanks- Dave
> 
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs

[James Hesketh via CnC-List]

David wrote:

> We do not have cockpit cushions an Aries, so have been considering some
> sort of folding deck chair as a substitute for the rare times we are
> sitting in the cockpit or deck at anchor/mooring/slip.  I have seen various
> types of folding chairs at Boat Shows and Amazon.  Have people had good
> experiences with any of these products that they can recommend?
>

Look at the Kermit Chair.

https://www.kermitchair.com/

These were originally designed for motorcycle camping and they fold up and
store in a nice compact bundle -- takes maybe 3-minutes to assemble for
use. Been using mine for moto-camping for 20 years now and it's held up to
a lot of abuse. I am though, shocked at the price now, glad I got mine when
I did.

Jim Hesketh
C 26 Whisper
Miami, FL
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Stus-List Folding deck chairs

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

We do not have cockpit cushions an Aries, so have been considering some sort of 
folding deck chair as a substitute for the rare times we are sitting in the 
cockpit or deck at anchor/mooring/slip.  I have seen various types of folding 
chairs at Boat Shows and Amazon.  Have people had good experiences with any of 
these products that they can recommend?  Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Coincidentally, I was just perusing a site yesterday that touched on this – a 
repair yard on the Hudson.

 

http://marinestructuralsolutions.com/?page=jobs

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie PA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David 
Swensen via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:52 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David Swensen
Subject: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III

 

Unfortunately, I had to haul Feya because of a leaking at the most aft keel 
bolt. The surveyor at the yard has determined that the boat was grounded at one 
time and there is at least one stringer that has separated from the hull. ( I 
wish the surveyor for the purchase found this). When the hull is sounded in 
that area, it sounds like there are marbles inside. The plan is to repair the 
stringer and rebed and glass in the keel. I will be able to bring the boat to 
my backyard and do it on my time. I will have the yard rebed because they will 
drop the keel and eval the condition of the bottom of the keel stub, and repair 
if necessary. They will also place shims to decrease play at the joint. 

 

My question is, should the stringer be repaired before or after the keel hull 
joint? 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

David Swensen

Freya

C 35 MK III

Salem, MA

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