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2021-10-15 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
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Sarah

We loved our stay at Kevin and Lisa’s house. Communication was excellent.
They even checked in with us a couple of times during our stay to see how
we were doing and if we needed anything. The spacious house is located a
block from the main street in White Salmon. It’s very nicely decorated,
beds are comfortable as is the whole house. We would definitely stay here
again. White Salmon is a tiny town but with some great food. Make sure you
visit the local bakery!
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“We loved our stay! Thank you for being so communicative hosts. Great
house, great location, really nice design, and and very comfortable! Given
your attention to detail, there are a couple of things you might like to
know... the pots and pans are in a bit of disarray. The single skillet
which has a non-stick surface, was pretty scratched up. Only one pot had a
lid that fit, the other lids were kind of random and one was broken. Some
of the pots also not super clean. Also, the utensil drawer was kind of
dirty. Otherwise the house was spotless, and these observations are just
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Stus-List Re: Insurance

2021-10-15 Thread David Risch via CnC-List 
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From: Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 1:52:22 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Korbey Hunt 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance

Boat US went in the tank when it was bought by Geico.

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Android

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 10:18:16 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance

Exactly.  If you don't have salvage coverage, you can get royally screwed.  
Happened to a buddy of mine last year in Hurricane Sally.

His boat was moored at Barber Marine on the ICW at Orange Beach, AL.  You'd 
think it was fairly protected.  No.  The wind was such that there was a lot of 
fetch and consequently significant wave action.  The marina was essentially 
destroyed.  He managed to visit a day or two after the storm and saw his boat 
afloat and not in bad shape.  He tried to visit a second time a few days later 
and was denied entry.  Meanwhile, according to him, a powerboat somehow damaged 
his sailboat enough to sink it.  He was in the process of arranging for a 
salvor to raise it when he was informed by the marina that they had raised it 
and presented him with a bill around $20,000.

He had to hire a marine lawyer to negotiate a settlement with the marina 
somewhat less than $20K.  He ended up with a much reduced settlement on the 
boat after the salvage cost was subtracted.  Ugly situation.

I have salvage coverage.  Here's the applicable clause from Touche's policy:

"We will also pay necessary salvage charges. This is an additional amount of 
insurance. But it will not exceed the amount stated on the Declarations Page 
for Section l."

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 8:40 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Another thing to check is salvage vs. repair coverage. If you just have say 
$50K of hull insurance with no salvage, if it takes $25K to salvage the boat 
you now have $25Kleft to fix the boat. For a difficult salvage and an old boat 
you could easily end up with nothing left.

BOATUS used to have superb coverage and the claim I had with them was handled 
over the phone, they said just have the yard fax the bill over when they are 
done. At some point they went from the best to the worst, for old boats they 
are essentially just liability now. My hope now is that Progressive doesn’t get 
nailed with a huge hurricane loss and double their rates. Speaking of, I have 3 
policies with them, one for Coquina, one for the dinghy, and one for the 
Whaler. There was some deal where the dinghy could be included with the mother 
ship, but I heard it was better not to do this because of something with the 
deductible.  I can’t recall the details, but the cost for the two small boats 
is maybe $200 or so per year for both of them.





Joe Della Barba

Coquina

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Stus-List Re: Insurance

2021-10-15 Thread Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
Boat US went in the tank when it was bought by Geico.

Get Outlook for Android

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 10:18:16 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance

Exactly.  If you don't have salvage coverage, you can get royally screwed.  
Happened to a buddy of mine last year in Hurricane Sally.

His boat was moored at Barber Marine on the ICW at Orange Beach, AL.  You'd 
think it was fairly protected.  No.  The wind was such that there was a lot of 
fetch and consequently significant wave action.  The marina was essentially 
destroyed.  He managed to visit a day or two after the storm and saw his boat 
afloat and not in bad shape.  He tried to visit a second time a few days later 
and was denied entry.  Meanwhile, according to him, a powerboat somehow damaged 
his sailboat enough to sink it.  He was in the process of arranging for a 
salvor to raise it when he was informed by the marina that they had raised it 
and presented him with a bill around $20,000.

He had to hire a marine lawyer to negotiate a settlement with the marina 
somewhat less than $20K.  He ended up with a much reduced settlement on the 
boat after the salvage cost was subtracted.  Ugly situation.

I have salvage coverage.  Here's the applicable clause from Touche's policy:

"We will also pay necessary salvage charges. This is an additional amount of 
insurance. But it will not exceed the amount stated on the Declarations Page 
for Section l."

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 8:40 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Another thing to check is salvage vs. repair coverage. If you just have say 
$50K of hull insurance with no salvage, if it takes $25K to salvage the boat 
you now have $25Kleft to fix the boat. For a difficult salvage and an old boat 
you could easily end up with nothing left.

BOATUS used to have superb coverage and the claim I had with them was handled 
over the phone, they said just have the yard fax the bill over when they are 
done. At some point they went from the best to the worst, for old boats they 
are essentially just liability now. My hope now is that Progressive doesn’t get 
nailed with a huge hurricane loss and double their rates. Speaking of, I have 3 
policies with them, one for Coquina, one for the dinghy, and one for the 
Whaler. There was some deal where the dinghy could be included with the mother 
ship, but I heard it was better not to do this because of something with the 
deductible.  I can’t recall the details, but the cost for the two small boats 
is maybe $200 or so per year for both of them.





Joe Della Barba

Coquina

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Stus-List Re: Insurance

2021-10-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Exactly.  If you don't have salvage coverage, you can get royally screwed.
Happened to a buddy of mine last year in Hurricane Sally.

His boat was moored at Barber Marine on the ICW at Orange Beach, AL.  You'd
think it was fairly protected.  No.  The wind was such that there was a lot
of fetch and consequently significant wave action.  The marina was
essentially destroyed.  He managed to visit a day or two after the storm
and saw his boat afloat and not in bad shape.  He tried to visit a second
time a few days later and was denied entry.  Meanwhile, according to him, a
powerboat somehow damaged his sailboat enough to sink it.  He was in the
process of arranging for a salvor to raise it when he was informed by the
marina that they had raised it and presented him with a bill around
$20,000.

He had to hire a marine lawyer to negotiate a settlement with the marina
somewhat less than $20K.  He ended up with a much reduced settlement on the
boat after the salvage cost was subtracted.  Ugly situation.

I have salvage coverage.  Here's the applicable clause from Touche's policy:

"We will also pay necessary salvage charges. This is an additional amount
of insurance. But it will not exceed the amount stated on the Declarations
Page for Section l."

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 8:40 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Another thing to check is salvage vs. repair coverage. If you just have
> say $50K of hull insurance with no salvage, if it takes $25K to salvage the
> boat you now have $25Kleft to fix the boat. For a difficult salvage and an
> old boat you could easily end up with nothing left.
>
> BOATUS used to have superb coverage and the claim I had with them was
> handled over the phone, they said just have the yard fax the bill over when
> they are done. At some point they went from the best to the worst, for old
> boats they are essentially just liability now. My hope now is that
> Progressive doesn’t get nailed with a huge hurricane loss and double their
> rates. Speaking of, I have 3 policies with them, one for Coquina, one for
> the dinghy, and one for the Whaler. There was some deal where the dinghy
> could be included with the mother ship, but I heard it was better not to do
> this because of something with the deductible.  I can’t recall the details,
> but the cost for the two small boats is maybe $200 or so per year for both
> of them.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> *Coquina*
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Insurance

2021-10-15 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
I have $500K with Progressive.
Joe

From: Matthew via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 11:07 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Matthew 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Insurance

This issue came up when I moved from Travelers to Progressive this past spring. 
 I went through a local Erie Insurance agent, where I have home and car 
insurance.  When I realized how much Travelers had increased its premium over 
three years (without apparent justification), I called my Erie Insurance agent 
to see if Erie has gotten into boat insurance.  It still has not, but my agent 
brokered a deal with Progressive.  One of the policy differences between the 
Travelers and Progressive policies is Progressive’s lower amount of liability 
coverage.  My Erie agent advised this was of no consequence because of my 
umbrella policy with Erie.

Matt Wolford
C 42 Custom
Erie, PA
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Stus-List Re: Insurance

2021-10-15 Thread Matthew via CnC-List 
This issue came up when I moved from Travelers to Progressive this past spring. 
 I went through a local Erie Insurance agent, where I have home and car 
insurance.  When I realized how much Travelers had increased its premium over 
three years (without apparent justification), I called my Erie Insurance agent 
to see if Erie has gotten into boat insurance.  It still has not, but my agent 
brokered a deal with Progressive.  One of the policy differences between the 
Travelers and Progressive policies is Progressive’s lower amount of liability 
coverage.  My Erie agent advised this was of no consequence because of my 
umbrella policy with Erie.

 

Matt Wolford

C 42 Custom

Erie, PA 

 

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:57 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance

 

All the umbrella policies I found with a quick search seem to be home and car, 
no mention of boats ☹

Be glad you aren’t looking for airplane insurance, the recent payouts on 
crashed 737s are getting paid for by EVERYONE, not just 737 owners.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

 

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Stus-List Re: help with hull numbers

2021-10-15 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List 

Joel
802550 is the active Transport Canada registration of WHISTLER II TORONTO
Don

On 10/15/2021 9:32 AM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List wrote:

For your record
1973 Cnc 30 mk1 HIN ccy301900673
On 802550 hull I think 767
Or rt 767

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 10:38 PM Joseph Bognar via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


My 79 30-1 has a serial number of
ZCC 30535M79F

Sent from Joe Bognar



On Oct 10, 2021, at 9:31 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:



Don do u need my HIN
On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 7:02 PM Don Kern via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Andrew,

It appears to be correct HIN, given the hull numbers that
immediately proceeding and following your Boat.  I believe
'74 was the forth year of production fr the 30s.

1974C 30 MK1  267
CCY302670274690812-xSnowbird
1974C 30 MK1  281
CCY302810474
1974C 30 MK1  299
CCY302990674603216-bSlice
1974C 30 MK1  301
CCY303010774Halcyon







By the way what is her name and home port?

Don Kern
/Fireball/, C Mk2
Bristol, RI



On 10/7/2021 8:14 PM, andrew_m--- via CnC-List wrote:


Hi! I’m the proud owner of a C 30 mk1 with HIN
CCY302810474. I’m trying to work out what hull number I
have. From what I’ve googled the “0474” tells me she was
built in April of 1974, the “CCY30” tells me she’s a C 30
mk1, and the “281” says she’s hull number 281 ??? April 1974
seems a little early in the production run to have made 280
boats. Can anyone help me decode the HIN?


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Stus-List Re: Insurance

2021-10-15 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
It is went they went from CNA (great!) to GEICO ()

Neil Andersen
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 9:40:07 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance


Another thing to check is salvage vs. repair coverage. If you just have say 
$50K of hull insurance with no salvage, if it takes $25K to salvage the boat 
you now have $25Kleft to fix the boat. For a difficult salvage and an old boat 
you could easily end up with nothing left.

BOATUS used to have superb coverage and the claim I had with them was handled 
over the phone, they said just have the yard fax the bill over when they are 
done. At some point they went from the best to the worst, for old boats they 
are essentially just liability now. My hope now is that Progressive doesn’t get 
nailed with a huge hurricane loss and double their rates. Speaking of, I have 3 
policies with them, one for Coquina, one for the dinghy, and one for the 
Whaler. There was some deal where the dinghy could be included with the mother 
ship, but I heard it was better not to do this because of something with the 
deductible.  I can’t recall the details, but the cost for the two small boats 
is maybe $200 or so per year for both of them.





Joe Della Barba

Coquina
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2021-10-15 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
Another thing to check is salvage vs. repair coverage. If you just have say 
$50K of hull insurance with no salvage, if it takes $25K to salvage the boat 
you now have $25Kleft to fix the boat. For a difficult salvage and an old boat 
you could easily end up with nothing left.
BOATUS used to have superb coverage and the claim I had with them was handled 
over the phone, they said just have the yard fax the bill over when they are 
done. At some point they went from the best to the worst, for old boats they 
are essentially just liability now. My hope now is that Progressive doesn’t get 
nailed with a huge hurricane loss and double their rates. Speaking of, I have 3 
policies with them, one for Coquina, one for the dinghy, and one for the 
Whaler. There was some deal where the dinghy could be included with the mother 
ship, but I heard it was better not to do this because of something with the 
deductible.  I can’t recall the details, but the cost for the two small boats 
is maybe $200 or so per year for both of them.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
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Stus-List Re: help with hull numbers

2021-10-15 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
For your record
1973 Cnc 30 mk1 HIN ccy301900673
On 802550 hull I think 767
Or rt 767

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 10:38 PM Joseph Bognar via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My 79 30-1 has a serial number of
> ZCC 30535M79F
>
> Sent from Joe Bognar
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2021, at 9:31 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> Don do u need my HIN
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 7:02 PM Don Kern via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> It appears to be correct HIN, given the hull numbers that immediately
>> proceeding and following your Boat.  I believe '74 was the forth year of
>> production fr the 30s.
>>
>> 1974 C 30 MK1 267
>> CCY302670274 690812-x Snowbird
>> 1974 C 30 MK1 281
>> CCY302810474
>> 1974 C 30 MK1 299
>> CCY302990674 603216-b Slice
>> 1974 C 30 MK1 301
>> CCY303010774   Halcyon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> By the way what is her name and home port?
>>
>> Don Kern
>> *Fireball*, C Mk2
>> Bristol, RI
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/7/2021 8:14 PM, andrew_m--- via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> Hi! I’m the proud owner of a C 30 mk1 with HIN CCY302810474. I’m trying
>> to work out what hull number I have. From what I’ve googled the “0474”
>> tells me she was built in April of 1974, the “CCY30” tells me she’s a C
>> 30 mk1, and the “281” says she’s hull number 281 ??? April 1974 seems a
>> little early in the production run to have made 280 boats. Can anyone help
>> me decode the HIN?
>>
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>> Stu
>>
>>
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
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>> Thanks - Stu
>
> --
> Joel Delamirande
> *www.jdroofing.ca *
>
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