Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I have some 2” Delrin sheaves that were grooved a little deeper than I like,
They are ½” Thick. With the ½” bronze bushing the axle would be 3/8” .
$8.00 each + Shipping.  I can send Pictures if interested.

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

From: Rod Stright via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 2:58 PM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: Rod Stright
Subject: Stus-List Source for sheaves

 

I am looking for some 2” sheaves for the end of my boom (4).  I believe the
old ones were Delrin or some sort of plastic and the sun took its tool.  I
believe someone had a very good source for sheaves on the list.

 

Rod Stright

Halifax

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Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

+1 for Zephyr Works.

They are not cheap, but they are good.

I have them make the set of masthead sheaves and a few boom end one. Perfect 
fit.

Marek

1994 c270 Legato
Ottawa ON



Sent from my Android-based can on a string



 Original message 
From: Matthew via CnC-List 
Date: 2021-11-09 15:59 (GMT-05:00)
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Matthew 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves

Zephyrwerks is an excellent source for custom-made sheaves if you cannot find 
something off the shelf that fits.  I had three masthead sheaves made since we 
lowered my mast about a month ago.  Ed (the owner) suggested replacing the worn 
pins as well, so he made a set (including welding the C plate on the end).  
The new sheaves and pins are already back on the mast and ready to go for next 
year.  Very professional; very prompt.

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 3:12 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves

https://www.rigrite.com/

https://www.zephyrwerks.com/
--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:58 PM Rod Stright via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I am looking for some 2” sheaves for the end of my boom (4).  I believe the old 
ones were Delrin or some sort of plastic and the sun took its tool.  I believe 
someone had a very good source for sheaves on the list.

Rod Stright
Halifax



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Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves

[Matthew via CnC-List]

Zephyrwerks is an excellent source for custom-made sheaves if you cannot find 
something off the shelf that fits.  I had three masthead sheaves made since we 
lowered my mast about a month ago.  Ed (the owner) suggested replacing the worn 
pins as well, so he made a set (including welding the C plate on the end).  
The new sheaves and pins are already back on the mast and ready to go for next 
year.  Very professional; very prompt.

 

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 3:12 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves

 

https://www.rigrite.com/

 

https://www.zephyrwerks.com/

--

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:58 PM Rod Stright via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I am looking for some 2” sheaves for the end of my boom (4).  I believe the old 
ones were Delrin or some sort of plastic and the sun took its tool.  I believe 
someone had a very good source for sheaves on the list.

 

Rod Stright

Halifax




 

 

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Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

Did the same with our mast head sheaves, new ones are ball bearing, and really 
helped reduce the friction in our halyards.

Paul

From: Bob Mann via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 3:06:43 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Rod Stright ; Bob Mann 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves

I sent my old ones from the masthead to Garhauer and they duplicated them for 
me.  About $65 each, several years ago.
On 11/09/2021 2:58 PM Rod Stright via CnC-List  wrote:



I am looking for some 2” sheaves for the end of my boom (4).  I believe the old 
ones were Delrin or some sort of plastic and the sun took its tool.  I believe 
someone had a very good source for sheaves on the list.


Rod Stright

Halifax

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Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Try these guys:

http://riggingonly.com/sheaves04.htm

Joel

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 3:13 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
wrote:

> https://www.rigrite.com/
>
> https://www.zephyrwerks.com/
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:58 PM Rod Stright via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I am looking for some 2” sheaves for the end of my boom (4).  I believe
>> the old ones were Delrin or some sort of plastic and the sun took its
>> tool.  I believe someone had a very good source for sheaves on the list.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rod Stright
>>
>> Halifax
>>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

https://www.rigrite.com/

https://www.zephyrwerks.com/
--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:58 PM Rod Stright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am looking for some 2” sheaves for the end of my boom (4).  I believe
> the old ones were Delrin or some sort of plastic and the sun took its
> tool.  I believe someone had a very good source for sheaves on the list.
>
>
>
> Rod Stright
>
> Halifax
>
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Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves

[Bob Mann via CnC-List]

I sent my old ones from the masthead to Garhauer and they duplicated them for 
me.  About $65 each, several years ago.

> On 11/09/2021 2:58 PM Rod Stright via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I am looking for some 2” sheaves for the end of my boom (4).  I believe 
> the old ones were Delrin or some sort of plastic and the sun took its tool.  
> I believe someone had a very good source for sheaves on the list.
> 
> 
> Rod Stright
> 
> Halifax
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help 
> with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
> 
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Stus-List Source for sheaves

[Rod Stright via CnC-List]

I am looking for some 2" sheaves for the end of my boom (4).  I believe the
old ones were Delrin or some sort of plastic and the sun took its tool.  I
believe someone had a very good source for sheaves on the list.

 

Rod Stright

Halifax

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Stus-List Re: C 121 in a pickle

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Chuck is correct.

I'm assuming that the 121 Calypso is the one making 5 knots trailing the
fleet.

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Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:13 PM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Joe,
> Randy’s boat Grenadine is on the hard in Colorado for the season.  Randy
> is on a delivery on a different boat.  The delivery skipper’s friend is
> sailing Calypso  which lost its headstay.  At least that’s what I read into
> this.
> Chuck Gilchrest
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 9, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/rally/2021-sdsa-caribbean-rally/
>
>
>
> No Grenadine shows up, but two Calypsos do. One is making 5 knots and the
> other is in Marsh Harbor.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: C 121 in a pickle

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Randy is not on his boat (Grenadine).  Don't know the name of the boat he
is on.

Joel

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 2:03 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/rally/2021-sdsa-caribbean-rally/
>
>
>
> No Grenadine shows up, but two Calypsos do. One is making 5 knots and the
> other is in Marsh Harbor.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 9, 2021 1:16 PM
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* Stus-List C 121 in a pickle
>
>
>
> Early this morning, I got a text from Randy Stafford (S/V Grenadine) of
> this list.  He is helping bring a boat from Newport to USVI.  The text was
> apparently from the delivery skipper's GPS tracker.
>
>
>
> A friend of the delivery skipper is helping sail a C 121 to Antigua.  It
> was in the Salty Dogs Rally.  They lost their forestay and are limping
> along.  Last position 26' 36"N 66' 32"W.  Randy's boat was at 26' 53"N 61'
> 41"W.  They may try to donate some fuel if they get close.
>
>
>
> Anyway, the C 121 is S/V Calypso.  Google turns up a blog.
> http://svcalypso52726.blogspot.com/  Homeport Mount Sinai, NY.  Don't
> know if this is the boat.
>
>
>
> Any lister familiar with this 121?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
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> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
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Stus-List Re: C 121 in a pickle

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Joe, 
Randy’s boat Grenadine is on the hard in Colorado for the season.  Randy is on 
a delivery on a different boat.  The delivery skipper’s friend is sailing 
Calypso  which lost its headstay.  At least that’s what I read into this.  
Chuck Gilchrest 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/rally/2021-sdsa-caribbean-rally/
>  
> No Grenadine shows up, but two Calypsos do. One is making 5 knots and the 
> other is in Marsh Harbor.
>  
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina C 35 MK I
> Kent Island MD USA
>  
>  
>  
> From: Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 1:16 PM
> To: CnClist 
> Cc: Dennis C. 
> Subject: Stus-List C 121 in a pickle
>  
> Early this morning, I got a text from Randy Stafford (S/V Grenadine) of this 
> list.  He is helping bring a boat from Newport to USVI.  The text was 
> apparently from the delivery skipper's GPS tracker.
>  
> A friend of the delivery skipper is helping sail a C 121 to Antigua.  It 
> was in the Salty Dogs Rally.  They lost their forestay and are limping along. 
>  Last position 26' 36"N 66' 32"W.  Randy's boat was at 26' 53"N 61' 41"W.  
> They may try to donate some fuel if they get close.
>  
> Anyway, the C 121 is S/V Calypso.  Google turns up a blog.  
> http://svcalypso52726.blogspot.com/  Homeport Mount Sinai, NY.  Don't know if 
> this is the boat.
>  
> Any lister familiar with this 121?
>  
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List Re: C 121 in a pickle

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/rally/2021-sdsa-caribbean-rally/

 

No Grenadine shows up, but two Calypsos do. One is making 5 knots and the other 
is in Marsh Harbor.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 1:16 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List C 121 in a pickle

 

Early this morning, I got a text from Randy Stafford (S/V Grenadine) of this 
list.  He is helping bring a boat from Newport to USVI.  The text was 
apparently from the delivery skipper's GPS tracker.

 

A friend of the delivery skipper is helping sail a C 121 to Antigua.  It was 
in the Salty Dogs Rally.  They lost their forestay and are limping along.  Last 
position 26' 36"N 66' 32"W.  Randy's boat was at 26' 53"N 61' 41"W.  They may 
try to donate some fuel if they get close.

 

Anyway, the C 121 is S/V Calypso.  Google turns up a blog.  
http://svcalypso52726.blogspot.com/  Homeport Mount Sinai, NY.  Don't know if 
this is the boat.

 

Any lister familiar with this 121?


 

-- 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

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Stus-List C 121 in a pickle

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Early this morning, I got a text from Randy Stafford (S/V Grenadine) of
this list.  He is helping bring a boat from Newport to USVI.  The text was
apparently from the delivery skipper's GPS tracker.

A friend of the delivery skipper is helping sail a C 121 to Antigua.  It
was in the Salty Dogs Rally.  They lost their forestay and are limping
along.  Last position 26' 36"N 66' 32"W.  Randy's boat was at 26' 53"N 61'
41"W.  They may try to donate some fuel if they get close.

Anyway, the C 121 is S/V Calypso.  Google turns up a blog.
http://svcalypso52726.blogspot.com/  Homeport Mount Sinai, NY.  Don't know
if this is the boat.

Any lister familiar with this 121?

-- 
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Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List C Yachts Mugs

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

I have in my possession nine (9) C Yachts coffee mugs. See: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c545prnvl381v75/mug.jpg?dl=0 
 

First person that makes a $30 donation to Stu and sends me a PDF of a UPS 
shipping label (8 pounds — from Sarasota, FL 34233) gets them all.

Email me at e...@schillay.com   

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












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Stus-List Re: Main halyard shackle

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I don't have snap shackles on my main or on my furling genoa. Both sails'
halyards are attached with shackles that have pins that screw in. The pins
have never come loose. I have snap shackles on my spinnaker halyards, and
more than once they have come undone when raising the spinnaker in heavy
wind. Now I tape the snap shackle after closing it, to prevent it from
coming open. When I used non-furling racing genoas, I used snap shackles on
the halyards.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 4:52 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My boat came with a main halyard shackle of a type I have never seen
> anywhere else.  It has a pivoting arm that swings up after inserting
> through the headboard and secured with a threaded pin.  It has worked fine
> for years and easy to remove and attach, which I do routinely when done
> sailing for the day.  Recently, I twice found it nearly completely
> unscrewed after a day of rough weather sailing, and that is concerning.  I
> don’t want to lose the halyard up the mast.  I am considering replacing it
> this winter with a standard snap shackle of the sort used on my genoa
> halyard.  I looked at a rigging company web site and they used snap
> shackles for genoa halyards and pin shackles for main halyards.  The logic
> of that escapes me.   On my boat, I take down the roller furling genoa only
> a few times a season while the main halyard is detached every time I go
> sailing.  I have no idea what the forces are on the main halyard but I
> would not think much greater than the genoa.  Any words of wisdom, or
> reason not to use a snap shackle for the main?  Thanks- Dave
>
> David Knecht
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Main halyard shackle

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Is it a J shackle?
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/tylaska-marine-hardware--j-lock-j8-shackle--11830239

Are you tightening by hand or using a tool to tighten?

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 9:39 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> A snap shackle on a halyard is not likely to fit through a headboard, or
> in my case where there is a snap shackle spliced on the jib halyard, I
> flipped it sideways (not used) and put a regular shackle on B/C the snap
> shackle won’t fit through the roller furler casting. I think snap shackles
> are mostly intended to be attached to a sail ring.
>
> If you have a snap shackle on the main halyard, you may likely have a
> regular shackle on your headboard, which of course will work. Just lowers
> your main a couple inches.
>
> Not sure why you take the halyard off every time?
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> Entrada, Erie, PA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Knecht via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 09, 2021 7:52 AM
> *To:* CnC CnC discussion list
> *Cc:* David Knecht
> *Subject:* Stus-List Main halyard shackle
>
>
>
> My boat came with a main halyard shackle of a type I have never seen
> anywhere else.  It has a pivoting arm that swings up after inserting
> through the headboard and secured with a threaded pin.  It has worked fine
> for years and easy to remove and attach, which I do routinely when done
> sailing for the day.  Recently, I twice found it nearly completely
> unscrewed after a day of rough weather sailing, and that is concerning.  I
> don’t want to lose the halyard up the mast.  I am considering replacing it
> this winter with a standard snap shackle of the sort used on my genoa
> halyard.  I looked at a rigging company web site and they used snap
> shackles for genoa halyards and pin shackles for main halyards.  The logic
> of that escapes me.   On my boat, I take down the roller furling genoa only
> a few times a season while the main halyard is detached every time I go
> sailing.  I have no idea what the forces are on the main halyard but I
> would not think much greater than the genoa.  Any words of wisdom, or
> reason not to use a snap shackle for the main?  Thanks- Dave
>
>
>
> David Knecht
>
> S/V Aries
>
> 1990 C 34+
>
> New London, CT
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Main halyard shackle

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

A snap shackle on a halyard is not likely to fit through a headboard, or in my 
case where there is a snap shackle spliced on the jib halyard, I flipped it 
sideways (not used) and put a regular shackle on B/C the snap shackle won’t fit 
through the roller furler casting. I think snap shackles are mostly intended to 
be attached to a sail ring.

If you have a snap shackle on the main halyard, you may likely have a regular 
shackle on your headboard, which of course will work. Just lowers your main a 
couple inches.

Not sure why you take the halyard off every time?

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: David Knecht via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 7:52 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list
Cc: David Knecht
Subject: Stus-List Main halyard shackle

 

My boat came with a main halyard shackle of a type I have never seen anywhere 
else.  It has a pivoting arm that swings up after inserting through the 
headboard and secured with a threaded pin.  It has worked fine for years and 
easy to remove and attach, which I do routinely when done sailing for the day.  
Recently, I twice found it nearly completely unscrewed after a day of rough 
weather sailing, and that is concerning.  I don’t want to lose the halyard up 
the mast.  I am considering replacing it this winter with a standard snap 
shackle of the sort used on my genoa halyard.  I looked at a rigging company 
web site and they used snap shackles for genoa halyards and pin shackles for 
main halyards.  The logic of that escapes me.   On my boat, I take down the 
roller furling genoa only a few times a season while the main halyard is 
detached every time I go sailing.  I have no idea what the forces are on the 
main halyard but I would not think much greater than the genoa.  Any words of 
wisdom, or reason not to use a snap shackle for the main?  Thanks- Dave

 

David Knecht

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT




 

 

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Main halyard shackle

[Matthew via CnC-List]

Last spring I replaced my rope/wire genny halyards with all rope.  I have a 
roller-furler.  In discussing shackle options to reduce the chance of catching 
during furling, my rigger questioned why I was bothering with a shackle at all. 
 My Harken furling unit came with a twisted D or something on the part that is 
hoisted.  The rigger spliced an eye in the new rope halyard to connect to the 
furler shackle, and it worked fine all season.  Unlike almost everything else 
spinning around up there, the spliced eye on the replacement halyard was not 
beat up or worn at all.

 

The shackle on my main halyard is, I believe, specifically made for head 
boards.  I like the blue Wichard one, which I believe they call a “thimble” 
shackle.

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 8:17 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Main halyard shackle

 

I don’t use a snap shackle any more for the jib, since it stays up for months 
at a time or more. It is a screw-in shackle with safety wire holding it.

The main shackle is one that screws in and out. It has never loosened itself. I 
think the longest the main has been up continuously is maybe 6 or 7 days and it 
did fine.

Joe

Coquina

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 7:52 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: David Knecht mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com> >
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Main halyard shackle

 

My boat came with a main halyard shackle of a type I have never seen anywhere 
else.  It has a pivoting arm that swings up after inserting through the 
headboard and secured with a threaded pin.  It has worked fine for years and 
easy to remove and attach, which I do routinely when done sailing for the day.  
Recently, I twice found it nearly completely unscrewed after a day of rough 
weather sailing, and that is concerning.  I don’t want to lose the halyard up 
the mast.  I am considering replacing it this winter with a standard snap 
shackle of the sort used on my genoa halyard.  I looked at a rigging company 
web site and they used snap shackles for genoa halyards and pin shackles for 
main halyards.  The logic of that escapes me.   On my boat, I take down the 
roller furling genoa only a few times a season while the main halyard is 
detached every time I go sailing.  I have no idea what the forces are on the 
main halyard but I would not think much greater than the genoa.  Any words of 
wisdom, or reason not to use a snap shackle for the main?  Thanks- Dave

 

David Knecht

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT




 

 

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Main halyard shackle

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Two reasons for a headboard shackle on the main rather than a snap swivel:
Headboard shackles are designed to accommodate a longer length from the sail 
cringle to the edge of the sail which generally is a fixed U shaped forging. 
This is much stronger than a pivoting closure that is found on a swiveling snap 
shackle of equal length.
A snap swivel shackle is specifically built to allow the sail to twist and 
rotate under load, especially when used with a spinnaker.  Hoisting loads on a 
mainsail are far more linear and rotation is less important.  Also, headboard 
shackles are less expensive.
Chuck Gilchrest 
Half Magic
LF 35
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I don’t use a snap shackle any more for the jib, since it stays up for months 
> at a time or more. It is a screw-in shackle with safety wire holding it.
> The main shackle is one that screws in and out. It has never loosened itself. 
> I think the longest the main has been up continuously is maybe 6 or 7 days 
> and it did fine.
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: David Knecht via CnC-List  
> Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 7:52 AM
> To: CnC CnC discussion list 
> Cc: David Knecht 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Main halyard shackle
>  
> My boat came with a main halyard shackle of a type I have never seen anywhere 
> else.  It has a pivoting arm that swings up after inserting through the 
> headboard and secured with a threaded pin.  It has worked fine for years and 
> easy to remove and attach, which I do routinely when done sailing for the 
> day.  Recently, I twice found it nearly completely unscrewed after a day of 
> rough weather sailing, and that is concerning.  I don’t want to lose the 
> halyard up the mast.  I am considering replacing it this winter with a 
> standard snap shackle of the sort used on my genoa halyard.  I looked at a 
> rigging company web site and they used snap shackles for genoa halyards and 
> pin shackles for main halyards.  The logic of that escapes me.   On my boat, 
> I take down the roller furling genoa only a few times a season while the main 
> halyard is detached every time I go sailing.  I have no idea what the forces 
> are on the main halyard but I would not think much greater than the genoa.  
> Any words of wisdom, or reason not to use a snap shackle for the main?  
> Thanks- Dave
>  
> David Knecht
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
>  
>  
> 
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Stus-List Re: C 41 Mainsheet question

[Matthew via CnC-List]

A friend of mine has a 41, and it is obvious that his traveler was moved from 
the cockpit to the cabin top.  Don’t know if he relocated it or it was done at 
the factory.

 

From: G Donald Wagner via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 8:05 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: G Donald Wagner 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 41 Mainsheet question

 

Joe 

 

My C 41 CB  traveler is mounted across the bridge deck and was factory 
installed

 

Don Wagner 

C 41 CB

Der Baron



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To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> >
Sent: Tue, Nov 9, 2021 7:39 am
Subject: Stus-List C 41 Mainsheet question

I have seen 41s with the traveler across the cabin top, across the bridge deck, 
and across the cockpit just forward of the wheel.

Are all 3 of these factory configurations or did they all start in the same 
place?

 

 

Joe Della Barba  Coquina C 35 MK I

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Main halyard shackle

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I don’t use a snap shackle any more for the jib, since it stays up for months 
at a time or more. It is a screw-in shackle with safety wire holding it.
The main shackle is one that screws in and out. It has never loosened itself. I 
think the longest the main has been up continuously is maybe 6 or 7 days and it 
did fine.
Joe
Coquina

From: David Knecht via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 7:52 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Main halyard shackle

My boat came with a main halyard shackle of a type I have never seen anywhere 
else.  It has a pivoting arm that swings up after inserting through the 
headboard and secured with a threaded pin.  It has worked fine for years and 
easy to remove and attach, which I do routinely when done sailing for the day.  
Recently, I twice found it nearly completely unscrewed after a day of rough 
weather sailing, and that is concerning.  I don’t want to lose the halyard up 
the mast.  I am considering replacing it this winter with a standard snap 
shackle of the sort used on my genoa halyard.  I looked at a rigging company 
web site and they used snap shackles for genoa halyards and pin shackles for 
main halyards.  The logic of that escapes me.   On my boat, I take down the 
roller furling genoa only a few times a season while the main halyard is 
detached every time I go sailing.  I have no idea what the forces are on the 
main halyard but I would not think much greater than the genoa.  Any words of 
wisdom, or reason not to use a snap shackle for the main?  Thanks- Dave

David Knecht
S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT

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Stus-List Re: C 41 Mainsheet question

[G Donald Wagner via CnC-List]

Joe
My C 41 CB  traveler is mounted across the bridge deck and was factory 
installed
Don Wagner C 41 CBDer Baron


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To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Sent: Tue, Nov 9, 2021 7:39 am
Subject: Stus-List C 41 Mainsheet question

 I have seen 41s with the traveler across the 
cabin top, across the bridge deck, and across the cockpit just forward of the 
wheel. Are all 3 of these factory configurations or did they all start in the 
same place?       Joe Della Barba  Coquina C 35 MK I Thanks to all of the 
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Stus-List Main halyard shackle

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

My boat came with a main halyard shackle of a type I have never seen anywhere 
else.  It has a pivoting arm that swings up after inserting through the 
headboard and secured with a threaded pin.  It has worked fine for years and 
easy to remove and attach, which I do routinely when done sailing for the day.  
Recently, I twice found it nearly completely unscrewed after a day of rough 
weather sailing, and that is concerning.  I don’t want to lose the halyard up 
the mast.  I am considering replacing it this winter with a standard snap 
shackle of the sort used on my genoa halyard.  I looked at a rigging company 
web site and they used snap shackles for genoa halyards and pin shackles for 
main halyards.  The logic of that escapes me.   On my boat, I take down the 
roller furling genoa only a few times a season while the main halyard is 
detached every time I go sailing.  I have no idea what the forces are on the 
main halyard but I would not think much greater than the genoa.  Any words of 
wisdom, or reason not to use a snap shackle for the main?  Thanks- Dave

David Knecht
S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT





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Stus-List C 41 Mainsheet question

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I have seen 41s with the traveler across the cabin top, across the bridge deck, 
and across the cockpit just forward of the wheel.
Are all 3 of these factory configurations or did they all start in the same 
place?


Joe Della Barba  Coquina C 35 MK I
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: What's up with this boat?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Those are two different boats. One looks about brand new and one looks beat to 
hell.
Joe
Coquina

From: Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 7:07 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Joel Delamirande 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: What's up with this boat?

Is these both boat in the ad the same boat from the same owner
For 6k to 29 it pretty good

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