Stus-List Re: C 32 Babystay
I can only think of two reasons for using a babystay - One is to help introduce mast bend in heavy air to flatten the main. Second is if your mast "pumps" in heavy seas. It helped on my previous boat, an Ericson 30. I have a babystay on my boat, and I rarely use it. It came on the boat with a track on the foredeck, and a rope clutch to the port side of the mast. The adjustment leads through the rope clutch to a spinnaker halyard winch. If the conditions I mentioned aren't exhibited on your boat, forget the babystay. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 7:23 PM Macdara Vallely via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > So, I believe that my 82 C 32 had the option for a babystay. It's > listed in the brochure, and there is a fitting for what looks to be a > t-ball fitting just above the spreaders. > > No deck fittings on my boat though. > > Has anyone gone to the bother of installing the deck fitting? If so, > would you mind advising me on how you went about it? > > Did you go for a fixed point, or track? Chainplate to bulkhead; transfer > the loads through deck to stringers below or beef up deck? Also, how did > you tension? How was it stowed? > > I'm interested in installing the babystay to beef up the rig a little. > The rod-rigging is of indeterminate age, and while it has been > professionally inspected and passed muster, I am a belt for braces guy and > I was thinking the babystay might offer some redundancy. > > I appreciate all advice and speculation offered. > > Thank you. > Macdara > > > Don't forget to show your appreciation and help pay the bills. Make a > contribution at: > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.paypal.me/stumurray__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!uSzgnPHZH1ypMFQ9rRxb6PpAxifIHTyh4Az6p7DCTz328oiPX1v6VqzICGPNO0tYmoI3OxN3elrOUUCGrGB44b8$ > Thanks for your help. > Alan Bergen Don't forget to show your appreciation and help pay the bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help.
Stus-List Re: C 32 Babystay
Does your rig already have fore and aft lowers? If you do a baby stay may not add that much extra support. When I re-rigged Calypso I used Briton Toss’s rigging book to calculate the loads on various shrouds and rigging elements. IIRC the aft lower shrouds can carry more load than most other elements. One of Calypso’s past owners removed the aft lowers (to allow the boom to travel farther forward) making the baby stay much more important for rig stability. This is especially true when sailing in choppy seas to prevent mast pumping. (Some boat racing long downwind races, Transpac for example, rig temporary forward lowers to support the mast in case the pole gets stuffed into a wave.) Calypso’s mast section is massive compared to more modern rigs. I have always assumed Bruckmann’s had a C 61 section hanging around the shop, cut it down, added some taper towards the top and called it good. Calypso’s baby stay uses a hydraulic tensioner with a fast-pin to release it for spinnaker gybes. The deck fitting is similar to a chain plate. Originally it terminated to the bulkhead just below. (A C 39 I raced several Transpacs on with it’s baby stay anchored to the same bulkhead we could lock someone in the head by pumping up the baby stay and distorting the deck/bulkhead.) Today Calypso’s baby stay is anchored to the hull with a tie rod/turnbuckle combo through bolted to the hull. When we recently rebuilt the bulkhead owing to rot issues we found indications of stress damage from the original baby installation. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 C 43 Port Ludlow/Seattle > On Nov 23, 2022, at 7:23 PM, Macdara Vallely via CnC-List > wrote: > > > So, I believe that my 82 C 32 had the option for a babystay. It's listed > in the brochure, and there is a fitting for what looks to be a t-ball fitting > just above the spreaders. > > No deck fittings on my boat though. > > Has anyone gone to the bother of installing the deck fitting? If so, would > you mind advising me on how you went about it? > > Did you go for a fixed point, or track? Chainplate to bulkhead; transfer the > loads through deck to stringers below or beef up deck? Also, how did you > tension? How was it stowed? > > I'm interested in installing the babystay to beef up the rig a little. The > rod-rigging is of indeterminate age, and while it has been professionally > inspected and passed muster, I am a belt for braces guy and I was thinking > the babystay might offer some redundancy. > > I appreciate all advice and speculation offered. > > Thank you. > Macdara > > > Don't forget to show your appreciation and help pay the bills. Make a > contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. Don't forget to show your appreciation and help pay the bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help.
Stus-List Re: C 32 Babystay
My 1982 C 32 has the baby stay and it’s a track Neil Andersen, W3NEA Rock Hall, MD 21661 484-354-8800 From: Macdara Vallely via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 10:22:51 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Macdara Vallely Subject: Stus-List C 32 Babystay So, I believe that my 82 C 32 had the option for a babystay. It's listed in the brochure, and there is a fitting for what looks to be a t-ball fitting just above the spreaders. No deck fittings on my boat though. Has anyone gone to the bother of installing the deck fitting? If so, would you mind advising me on how you went about it? Did you go for a fixed point, or track? Chainplate to bulkhead; transfer the loads through deck to stringers below or beef up deck? Also, how did you tension? How was it stowed? I'm interested in installing the babystay to beef up the rig a little. The rod-rigging is of indeterminate age, and while it has been professionally inspected and passed muster, I am a belt for braces guy and I was thinking the babystay might offer some redundancy. I appreciate all advice and speculation offered. Thank you. Macdara Don't forget to show your appreciation and help pay the bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help.
Stus-List C 32 Babystay
So, I believe that my 82 C 32 had the option for a babystay. It's listed in the brochure, and there is a fitting for what looks to be a t-ball fitting just above the spreaders. No deck fittings on my boat though. Has anyone gone to the bother of installing the deck fitting? If so, would you mind advising me on how you went about it? Did you go for a fixed point, or track? Chainplate to bulkhead; transfer the loads through deck to stringers below or beef up deck? Also, how did you tension? How was it stowed? I'm interested in installing the babystay to beef up the rig a little. The rod-rigging is of indeterminate age, and while it has been professionally inspected and passed muster, I am a belt for braces guy and I was thinking the babystay might offer some redundancy. I appreciate all advice and speculation offered. Thank you. Macdara Don't forget to show your appreciation and help pay the bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help.
