Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for backstay

2023-11-21 Thread Paul Hood via CnC-List 
Hey Chuck, what were the reasons for the fluid change?

 

Paul Hood

REFUGE – 1981 C on Georgian Bay /) 

 

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 7:31 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Paul Fountain ; CHARLES SCHEAFFER 

Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for 
backstay

 

Used a local NJ hydraulic shop twice in 21 years owning my boat.  

I typically leave 500# pressure at the slip and keep a SS washer on the rod 
above the cylinder to protect that O-ring seal from UVs.  The pressure holds 
for months. 

  

Fluid:  The hydraulic shop advised me to change the original fluid that looked 
like transmission fluid or power steering fluid to 10 weight non-detergent 
fluid.  Easily found at auto stores like NAPA. 

  

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R Annapolis 

On 11/17/2023 8:44 PM EST Paul Fountain via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

  

  

I always bring mine home, think the extreme cold and dry weather when combined 
with the lack of use are bad for the seals.  

  

Get Outlook for iOS   

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From: paul.hood via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 6:48:48 PM
To: David Risch via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: paul.hood mailto:paul.h...@rogers.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for 
backstay 

  

Went to a specialty hydralics shop to get mine fixed.  They couldn't don't.  
Went elsewhere and they did fine.  Still wasn't cheap. Done work on the 2 
hydralics and the pump.  

  

Seems I do have periodic failures in the backstay and pump (seals) too often 
and usually experienced after the winter. Not sure if the winters up here play 
havoc with the seals but I've taken them off now in the fall. They're now 
stored indoors for the winter. Hoping to avoid the expensive and time consuming 
spring fixes.  

  

  

Paul Hood 

416.799.5549 

  

  

 Original message  

From: David Risch via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 

Date: 2023-11-17 6:27 p.m. (GMT-05:00) 

To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 

Cc: David Risch mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com> > 

Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for 
backstay 

  

Just go to a local hydraulic shop.  Sorry as a Navtech “technician” ripped me 
off for two “re-builds” in two years at $500 an incompetent rebuild.  
Construction guys don’t tolerate that crap.   $100 once and done.   It is just 
a pump.

 

From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 2:12 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford mailto:wolf...@erie.net> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for 
backstay

 

I also like Lew, whom I contacted based on recommendations from this list.  
That said, he’s not from NJ (far from it), and shipping cost almost as much as 
the work.  Also, the rebuild work I had done was prophylactic, and my unit now 
has a very minor leak that it didn’t have before.  I’m sure he’d fix it if I 
sent it back. Bottom line: as much as I like Lew, I suggest finding someone 
local.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:37 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Second Lew Townsend.  He rebuilt mine after another Navtec rebuilder botched 
it.  Excellent to work with.

 

--

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 8:55 AM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Lew Townsend did all my Navtec hydraulic repairs. Don't know whether he does 
Sailtec, but you can call him at (206) 498-7282. He does quality work. Others 
on the list have also used him.

 

Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

 

 

 

On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 6:36 AM Allen Miles via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Good morning All,

 

Septima has moved from Hampton Roads, VA to Bayville, NJ. Upon arrival we 
noticed that the hydraulic cylinders for the backstay were leaking. Does anyone 
have recommendations on a reputable service to rebuild them in the NJ area? 

 

They are Sailtec branded. However, the marina we are in refuses to do business 
with them based on previous bad experiences. Love to support local businesses 
but also want a quality job. Any suggestions appreciated.

 

Thanks and have a great weekend,

 

Allen Miles

30 Mk II, Septima

Bayville, NJ

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Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for backstay

2023-11-21 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
I also leave about 500 psi on while at the slip.  I like the SS washer idea.

 

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 7:31 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Paul Fountain ; CHARLES SCHEAFFER 

Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for 
backstay

 

Used a local NJ hydraulic shop twice in 21 years owning my boat.  

I typically leave 500# pressure at the slip and keep a SS washer on the rod 
above the cylinder to protect that O-ring seal from UVs.  The pressure holds 
for months. 

  

Fluid:  The hydraulic shop advised me to change the original fluid that looked 
like transmission fluid or power steering fluid to 10 weight non-detergent 
fluid.  Easily found at auto stores like NAPA. 

  

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R Annapolis 

On 11/17/2023 8:44 PM EST Paul Fountain via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

  

  

I always bring mine home, think the extreme cold and dry weather when combined 
with the lack of use are bad for the seals.  

  

Get Outlook for iOS   

  _  

From: paul.hood via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 6:48:48 PM
To: David Risch via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: paul.hood mailto:paul.h...@rogers.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for 
backstay 

  

Went to a specialty hydralics shop to get mine fixed.  They couldn't don't.  
Went elsewhere and they did fine.  Still wasn't cheap. Done work on the 2 
hydralics and the pump.  

  

Seems I do have periodic failures in the backstay and pump (seals) too often 
and usually experienced after the winter. Not sure if the winters up here play 
havoc with the seals but I've taken them off now in the fall. They're now 
stored indoors for the winter. Hoping to avoid the expensive and time consuming 
spring fixes.  

  

  

Paul Hood 

416.799.5549 

  

  

 Original message  

From: David Risch via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 

Date: 2023-11-17 6:27 p.m. (GMT-05:00) 

To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 

Cc: David Risch mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com> > 

Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for 
backstay 

  

Just go to a local hydraulic shop.  Sorry as a Navtech “technician” ripped me 
off for two “re-builds” in two years at $500 an incompetent rebuild.  
Construction guys don’t tolerate that crap.   $100 once and done.   It is just 
a pump.

 

From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 2:12 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford mailto:wolf...@erie.net> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for 
backstay

 

I also like Lew, whom I contacted based on recommendations from this list.  
That said, he’s not from NJ (far from it), and shipping cost almost as much as 
the work.  Also, the rebuild work I had done was prophylactic, and my unit now 
has a very minor leak that it didn’t have before.  I’m sure he’d fix it if I 
sent it back. Bottom line: as much as I like Lew, I suggest finding someone 
local.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:37 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Second Lew Townsend.  He rebuilt mine after another Navtec rebuilder botched 
it.  Excellent to work with.

 

--

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 8:55 AM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Lew Townsend did all my Navtec hydraulic repairs. Don't know whether he does 
Sailtec, but you can call him at (206) 498-7282. He does quality work. Others 
on the list have also used him.

 

Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

 

 

 

On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 6:36 AM Allen Miles via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Good morning All,

 

Septima has moved from Hampton Roads, VA to Bayville, NJ. Upon arrival we 
noticed that the hydraulic cylinders for the backstay were leaking. Does anyone 
have recommendations on a reputable service to rebuild them in the NJ area? 

 

They are Sailtec branded. However, the marina we are in refuses to do business 
with them based on previous bad experiences. Love to support local businesses 
but also want a quality job. Any suggestions appreciated.

 

Thanks and have a great weekend,

 

Allen Miles

30 Mk II, Septima

Bayville, NJ

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Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for backstay

2023-11-21 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
Used a local NJ hydraulic shop twice in 21 years owning my boat. 
I typically leave 500# pressure at the slip and keep a SS washer on the rod 
above the cylinder to protect that O-ring seal from UVs.  The pressure holds 
for months.
 
Fluid:  The hydraulic shop advised me to change the original fluid that looked 
like transmission fluid or power steering fluid to 10 weight non-detergent 
fluid.  Easily found at auto stores like NAPA.
 
Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R Annapolis

> On 11/17/2023 8:44 PM EST Paul Fountain via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> I always bring mine home, think the extreme cold and dry weather when 
> combined with the lack of use are bad for the seals. 
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS https://aka.ms/o0ukef
> 
> -
> From: paul.hood via CnC-List 
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 6:48:48 PM
> To: David Risch via CnC-List 
> Cc: paul.hood 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for 
> backstay
>  
> Went to a specialty hydralics shop to get mine fixed.  They couldn't don't.  
> Went elsewhere and they did fine.  Still wasn't cheap. Done work on the 2 
> hydralics and the pump. 
>  
> Seems I do have periodic failures in the backstay and pump (seals) too often 
> and usually experienced after the winter. Not sure if the winters up here 
> play havoc with the seals but I've taken them off now in the fall. They're 
> now stored indoors for the winter. Hoping to avoid the expensive and time 
> consuming spring fixes. 
>  
>  
> Paul Hood
> 416.799.5549
>  
>  
>  Original message 
> From: David Risch via CnC-List 
> Date: 2023-11-17 6:27 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: David Risch 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for 
> backstay
>  
> 
> Just go to a local hydraulic shop.  Sorry as a Navtech “technician” ripped me 
> off for two “re-builds” in two years at $500 an incompetent rebuild.  
> Construction guys don’t tolerate that crap.   $100 once and done.   It is 
> just a pump.
> 
>  
> 
> From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 2:12 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Matthew L. Wolford 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommendations to rebuild hydraulic cylinders for 
> backstay
> 
>  
> 
> I also like Lew, whom I contacted based on recommendations from this list.  
> That said, he’s not from NJ (far from it), and shipping cost almost as much 
> as the work.  Also, the rebuild work I had done was prophylactic, and my unit 
> now has a very minor leak that it didn’t have before.  I’m sure he’d fix it 
> if I sent it back. Bottom line: as much as I like Lew, I suggest finding 
> someone local.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:37 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > 
> 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Second Lew Townsend.  He rebuilt mine after another Navtec rebuilder 
> > botched it.  Excellent to work with.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Dennis C.
> > 
> > Touche' 35-1 #83
> > 
> > Mandeville, LA
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 8:55 AM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
> > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Lew Townsend did all my Navtec hydraulic repairs. Don't know whether he 
> > > does Sailtec, but you can call him at (206) 498-7282. He does quality 
> > > work. Others on the list have also used him.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Alan Bergen
> > > 
> > > 35 Mk III Thirsty
> > > 
> > > Rose City YC
> > > 
> > > Portland, OR
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 6:36 AM Allen Miles via CnC-List 
> > > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Good morning All,
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Septima has moved from Hampton Roads, VA to Bayville, NJ. Upon arrival 
> > > > we noticed that the hydraulic cylinders for the backstay were leaking. 
> > > > Does anyone have recommendations on a reputable service to rebuild them 
> > > > in the NJ area? 
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > They are Sailtec branded. However, the marina we are in refuses to do 
> > > > business with them based on previous bad experiences. Love to support 
> > > > local businesses but also want a quality job. Any suggestions 
> > > > appreciated.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks and have a great weekend,
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Allen Miles
> > > > 
> > > > 30 Mk II, Septima
> > > > 
> > > > Bayville, NJ
> > > > 
> > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site 
> > > > and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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> > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > > Stu
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and 
> > > help me pay the associated

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2023-11-21 Thread Stu via CnC-List 
A little over a month ago, my long time partner, Gladys, passed away.  I 
reached out to the subscribers of this list to help me with some expenses.

The response has been overwhelming and truly appreciated.

The only thing I can say is “Thank you”.

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Stus-List Re: C spreader cracked

2023-11-21 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
Klacko marine in oakville Ontario if you want something new
I think they used to make cnc parts if I’m not mistaken

On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 9:49 PM John Read via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I also know they stripped a C 34 but uncertain when or how many parts
> they still have.
>
>
>
> If they do not respond to a voice mail or email, try again
>
>
>
> John Read
>
>
>
> *From:* John Read
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2023 4:58 PM
> *To:* 'Stus-List' 
> *Cc:* 'Nathan Post' 
> *Subject:* RE: Stus-List Re: C spreader cracked
>
>
>
> I have found Mass Marine responds best to text.  They have no office staff
> and all crew are in the yard pulling and inventorying parts
>
>
>
> John Read
>
>
>
> *From:* Nathan Post via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2023 12:21 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Nathan Post 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: C spreader cracked
>
>
>
> Hello Matthew and all,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. Yes, looks like Rigrite might be able to do
> this as well but from their website it isn't at all clear what you need to
> order.
>
>
>
> I reached out to both Holland Marine and Klacko Spars as well as Mass
> Marine Parts (no response from  Mass Marine Parts by phone or e-mail -
> maybe gone for the holidays?).  Holland actually forwarded my request to
> Klacko https://www.klackospars.com/contact.html as well and Klacko got
> right back to me and said I can send the spreaders to them and they will
> repair or worse case replace with a new set for $700 worst case. So I plan
> on going forward with that approach.
>
>
>
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Post
>
> SV Wisper
>
> C 34 1981
>
> Portland ME
>
>
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