Stus-List Re: Surveyor in CT?

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Jim Dias
Accredited Marine Surveyors. 
Has a CT phone number. 
About as good as they get. Very thorough. 
He surveyed our 35-3 about 10 years ago. Recently saw him on Yacht Hunters 
(YouTube) so I guess he’s still out there working. 
Jon Pratt
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Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C

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Previous owner replaced with Anderson 52’s.  IMO Oversized. If that helps. 
I kinda like’m though. 
Jon Pratt
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Stus-List Long Island Sound

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Hey Edd,
Stamford has come a long way. West branch brings you to all the restaurants and 
east branch to well,……if you go up far enough, the sewage treatment plant. 
Jon Pratt
Hideaway 35-3
Stamford. 
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Stus-List Engine strangeness

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Previous boat
‘79 Nicholson 303
Yanmar 2qm15
320 hrs. 

Starts and runs all day. Slowing while approaching a dock-stalls.
Change filters, check for loose fuel lines, change crush washers…..
Approaching a dock….stall. Always while slowing down. 
Approaching the fuel dock at Dodson’s was told “I’m going there!” By the nice 
man on his Hinckley.  My response, “Sorry,(engine stalls) I am. 
The fuel pickup was at the forward end of the cylindrical tank. When I slowed, 
all the crud would slosh forward and block the pickup causing a stall. 
Unfortunately the yard cleaned the tank and replaced it. they also 
inadvertently punctured it and diesel would run out the bottom. Found this out 
after a day sailing. Back to the yard and a new tank was installed. 
Unfortunately they inadvertently severed the propane line while cutting a 2” 
hole in a bulkhead to run a new vent line. It was obscured by the insulation. 
Found this out when it blew up. With 2 of us onboard. ‘Nother story. I’m sure I 
told it here at some point. 
Jon Pratt
Hideaway 35-3
Stamford CT
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Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

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Maybe a minor thread steal here but.. 
We keep Hideaway in a Safe Harbor in Stamford. We winter with safe harbor as 
well. Benefit-12 free nights at other Safe Harbors if you winter with them.
Sometimes a shuttle bus, pool and a restaurant are a good thing. 
Jon

Stus-List Re: erratic and weak rpm

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………..and the diesel vent line. 
Jon Pratt
Hideaway 35-3

Stus-List Re: Baby stay vs new headsail

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Shroud roller on the baby stay. 
Jon
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Stus-List Re: Looking for spinnaker for a 35 mk3

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Wanna borrow one for the season? You can see if you really want one. 
Jon
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> On May 25, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was wondering if anyone had a decent used or not so used light air 
> spinnaker for C 35 mk3?
> 
> Also, I was wondering what people are paying for a new one?
> Z-Sails in Stamford is quoting me $3950.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Matthew Schlanger
> The Office
> C 35 mkIII
> Nyack, NY 
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Stus-List Re: Now stink boaters anonymous

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Everyone’s coming out of the hanging locker I guess. 
1979 Chaparral 20’ 1986 merc 115 tower of power. But I have a sticker on it 
that says “I’d rather be sailing”. 
Jon Pratt 
35-3
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Stus-List Re: C Rendezvous at Maritime Museum in Kingston?

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I saw “Maritime Museum in Kingston” and was excited. Unfortunately it’s not the 
maritime museum in Kingston NY. I would like to visit the NY version this 
summer though. 
Jon

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> On Jan 9, 2021, at 8:23 PM, Paul Vint via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Which "Kingston" are we talking about?
> 
> I live right near one of the "Kingston"s, but mine is in Ontario. I suspect 
> that';s not what you're talking about.
> 
> Paul Vint
> Resolute 33 Mk I
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 11:56 AM Stu via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> Gladys and I will be vacationing this summer in Kingston and will be staying 
>> at a campground about 10 mins from town.  If anyone else would be coming 
>> with an RV (trailer, tent, motor home) let me know.  I’ll check with the 
>> campground to see if we can get a group discount.
>>  
>> Stu
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Re: Stus-List Asymmetrical Spin

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I have a ATN Sock and Tacker from a 35-3 available. 
Jon

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Re: Stus-List Removing a C 34 fuel tank

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Just in case. Wondering if boats that have switched from the atomic to a diesel 
are sure the tank is not galvanized. Galvanized steel and diesel do not agree. 
Must be aluminum, ss or plastic. 
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Re: Stus-List Vineyard Race

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I’ll be leaving Nantucket tomorrow am heading to Vineyard Haven for a coupla 
days. But I’m in the Dark and Stormy race. (After boat is secured of course). 
Jon 
Hideaway
35-3.2
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Re: Stus-List Water pump

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Upper is coolant pump. Lower is raw water pump. 
Go here for a pic:
https://psyberspace.com.au/yanmar/anatomy.htm
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Re: Stus-List 35 MK3 lifting hull off keel

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Just saw a post on FB showing Robert Ball in Cuttyhunk yesterday. If you 
hurry
Jon
Hideaway 
35-3
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Re: Stus-List High temp alarm argh

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Yes, Thank you.  She's spittin’ like an agitated dromedary. 
I think I’ll install the mixing elbow in the Spring. 
Jon 


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> On Jul 27, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Matthew via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Everyone needs spare parts.
>  
> Probably low due to the new hot water heater.  Is the exhaust spitting now?
>  
> From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of JP Mail via 
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> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 2:02 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: JP Mail 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List High temp alarm argh
>  
> Update. All good. So it was like this... 
> 5 minutes from the dock alarm goes off.
> At the dock I shut off seacock. Pulled the hose, opened Seacock briefly. 
> Plenty of water. Shut seacock. Reattached hose.
> Observed low antifreeze. Added anti freeze. Scratched head. Why low 
> antifreeze? 
> Maybe the loop in the NEW hot water heater used it up? 
> Started engine. Noticed no water spitting. 
> ***Anyone spot the problem yet?***
> Back today and pulled impeller pump. Impeller perfect. Oh wait. The seacock 
> is CLOSED. Yeah that was it. I didn’t reopen it when I ran the engine back at 
> the dock. Hence no water spitting. I gotta calm down. 
> Meanwhile ordered 2 impeller kits and a  ss mixing elbow. 
> 
> Thanks all for clarifications. 
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Re: Stus-List High temp alarm argh

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Update. All good. So it was like this... 
5 minutes from the dock alarm goes off.
At the dock I shut off seacock. Pulled the hose, opened Seacock briefly. Plenty 
of water. Shut seacock. Reattached hose.
Observed low antifreeze. Added anti freeze. Scratched head. Why low antifreeze? 
Maybe the loop in the NEW hot water heater used it up? 
Started engine. Noticed no water spitting. 
***Anyone spot the problem yet?***
Back today and pulled impeller pump. Impeller perfect. Oh wait. The seacock is 
CLOSED. Yeah that was it. I didn’t reopen it when I ran the engine back at the 
dock. Hence no water spitting. I gotta calm down. 
Meanwhile ordered 2 impeller kits and a  ss mixing elbow. 
> Thanks all for clarifications. 
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Re: Stus-List High temp alarm argh

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Thank you. What I thought. I’ll start with impeller and work forward(aft I 
guess). 
Jon

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> On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:01 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> You have the water flow correct. These are things you can check:
> Remove the cap (like a radiator cap) and check the water/antifreeze level.
> Check the level of the fluid in the overflow container (access from the port 
> cockpit locker)
> Close the seacock; open the sea strainer; open the seacock. Water should gush 
> through.
> As long as it's open, clean the strainer.
> When you put the cap back on the sea strainer, make sure you have a good fit. 
> If air enters, you won't get water flow.
> Check the tension on the water pump belt.
> Check the impeller. If any fins are missing, find and remove them.
> If you have the original mixing elbow, it could be clogged, especially if you 
> sail in salt water. Remove it, and clean it out.
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 6:18 AM JP Mail via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> I too are days away from a two week trip. 5 minutes off the dock Yesterday 
>> and off goes the high temp alarm. Back to the dock. I always look and listen 
>> for water spitting. Well this time I was “sure” I saw water. Back at the 
>> dock nada. Dry exhaust. 
>> So today I start with diagnosis. 
>> I did check to see if water flows with hose off the seacock. Yes. 
>> I have a replacement impeller which I’ll change today. 
>> I need clarification as to the path of the water. 
>> Does the water go from seacock to sea strainer to impeller(Pump) to heat 
>> exchanger to mixing elbow to muffler to Long Island Sound? 
>> Thank you in advance. 
>> Jon 
>> Hideaway 35-3
>> 3gm30 f
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Stus-List High temp alarm argh

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I too are days away from a two week trip. 5 minutes off the dock Yesterday and 
off goes the high temp alarm. Back to the dock. I always look and listen for 
water spitting. Well this time I was “sure” I saw water. Back at the dock nada. 
Dry exhaust. 
So today I start with diagnosis. 
I did check to see if water flows with hose off the seacock. Yes. 
I have a replacement impeller which I’ll change today. 
I need clarification as to the path of the water. 
Does the water go from seacock to sea strainer to impeller(Pump) to heat 
exchanger to mixing elbow to muffler to Long Island Sound? 
Thank you in advance. 
Jon 
Hideaway 35-3
3gm30 f
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Re: Stus-List Parting an ‘89 30’ CNC

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Boat looked good to me. Just dirty from sitting in the yard. No cradle/stands. 
Some repairs had been made/attempted to fore and aft edge of keel. Maybe that 
was the reason for abandonment.
Boat is at King Marine Salvage
In Verplanck NY on the Hudson River. 

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> On Jul 21, 2020, at 12:42 AM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am interested in some items too, though I can never remember at the moment. 
> A parted parts list would be great. Is there a good condition mainsail? Was 
> the boat wrecked or abandoned to neglect? Where is the boat located? Thank 
> you!
> 
> 
> Kevin Driscoll
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 2:03 PM Allan Rheaume via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Is there a website with details about this boat? How to go about purchasing 
>> parts, etc?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Al Rheaume
>> 30-2 Drumroll
>> 
>> On Friday, July 17, 2020, 04:32:07 p.m. EDT, JP Mail via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I’m standing in the salvage yard.
>> All kinds of everything for 
>> ZCC30148B989
>> King Salvage. 
>> I live 10 Minutes away.
>> Motor is not seized. 3 GM  i think. 
>> Jon
>> jon.peterpr...@gmail.com
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Re: Stus-List New Head -- Jabsco Electric on a C

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You are the best!! “Vulcan Waste”. Now that’s all I’m going to try to envision 
in my head (npi), today. 
Jon
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> On Jul 18, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> For those of you that are considering updating your head, last month, I 
> installed a Jabsco Lite Flush Electric head and it’s working beautifully. 
> Unlike earlier versions of this model which had mixed reviews, this has a 
> better pump, macerator and belt, along with a simple two-button control panel 
> (also available in a foot-switch model). The best part is that it mounts on 
> the same bolts that hold your Jabsco manual flush head so installation is 
> both clean and easy. 
> 
> Here’s a picture of the install: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uf142xu3l2dwb1f/HeadInstall.jpg?dl=0 
> 
> The control panel mounted easily on the trim (right side of photo with blue 
> tape) and the cable was easy to run and hide behind it. 
> 
> Highly recommend it. 
> 
> Of course, for any newbies that come on board, I decided to print up a sign 
> that will cling to the mirror with detailed instructions on how to use the 
> head on board the Enterprise. Here’s the sign I made: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j1d3szqybmc2tuo/HeadInstructions2.jpg?dl=0   
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
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Stus-List Parting an ‘89 30’ CNC

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I’m standing in the salvage yard.
All kinds of everything for 
ZCC30148B989
King Salvage. 
I live 10 Minutes away.
Motor is not seized. 3 GM  i think. 
Jon
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Stus-List Transient overnight mooring or slip between Noank and Mystic. Recommendations?

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I was going to pick up mooring in Stonington, but Dodson’s has a 30 day minimum 
now. August 6th, one night. 35-3, 6’+ draft. 
I know this info is on here but Im working with a phone and I’m old. 
Jon
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Re: Stus-List Beta Engine Stalling

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With previous boat we had a stalling issue when slowing or throttling back. 
Yanmar would run all day if need be and as soon as approaching a dock or 
mooring, would stall. Spent days trying everything. Filter changes, tightening 
hose clamps, changing crush washers turned out to be sludge in the tank. 
The pickup tube was in the forward end of the tank and would clog when slowing. 
Cleaned the tank, no more problems.  Other than the yard that cleaned the tank 
did so with gusto and put a hole in the tank. Which needed replacing. Then 
there was the explosion that occurred when they inadvertently cut through the 
propane line (which was obscured by insulation) While rerouting the tank 
vent...but it ran like a top until then. 
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Re: Stus-List CnC34-Anything to pay attention to?

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Fresh water cooled/ raw water cooled.
Jon
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Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy

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I removed and cleaned the carb on our mercury 2.5 / 4 stroke. It runs and idles 
fine but will only rev about half way. I bought a rebuild kit and installed. 
Same. Ordered new carb. 
I think all the small engines are Chinese. And a lot are the same except 
badging and plastic. Like Home Depot lawn tractors. 
Jon

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Re: Stus-List Gel coat

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What color it was When built is different than today I would believe. I’m 
planning on recording a small section forward. I 
Plan on using Quantum 99 topcoat. I ordered the swatch sheet. No two of us 
could nail it down but #1022 insignia white is what we’re going with.
Jon
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> 
> 
> I have a 1985 C 35 mk3 does anyone know  what color the deck gelcoat is?  
> Its off white but having 
> hard time matching.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
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> Fianna 
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Re: Stus-List Replace Hot water heater

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The water heater was not used last summer. It was left bypassed. When hooked up 
last week the pump did the nonstop thing. We put it back on bypass. But yes, if 
left connected, antifreeze would find its way into tap water and or vise versa. 
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Stus-List Replace Hot water heater

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35-3
I think the engine coolant heat exchanger in the hot water heater is leaking 
and would like to replace the unit. It heats fine on shore power.  But the 
pressure pump for the pressure water runs continuously unless I bypass the 
engine hot water for the heater. So if I need a new unit, what should I be 
looking at?
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Re: Stus-List Apple Tablet

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I have it in a lifeproof case with a Ram Mount holding to the grab bar on the 
wheel pedestal. 
I also added weatherproof outlets for 12v with usb and cig lighter outlets to 
instrument housing on pedestal. I plug iPad in there. I also use a garmin glo 
for gps signal. 
Jon

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> 
> I’ve got an iPad 6th generation (see 
> https://support.apple.com/et-ee/HT201471) enclosed in a LifeProof case 
> (https://www.lifeproof.com/en-us/apple/ipad-cases) stuck to the outside cabin 
> wall with industrial-strength velcro.
> 
> Cheers,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
> 
>> On May 3, 2020, at 1:46 PM, David Risch via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So I will be using an Apple IPad for chartplotter use.  Anyone have 
>> recommendations for a water proof case, temporary pedestal mount setup?  
>> Thanks in advance. 
>> 
>> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
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Stus-List Carbon fiber whisker pole

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For my carbon fiber sprit I used a 2 part rattle can of “spray Max 2k clear 
glamour 368 0061”
This is the UV protectant. First a coat of west system special clear and then 
this stuff. Never saw 2 part in a spray can before. 

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Re: Stus-List Re core my deck

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Thank you for the wisdom. And pics.  No mat with epoxy? 
Love me those Frers 33s. Looked at a few before Hideaway. Tried to make an 
offer on one near home and couldn’t get through to owner. C’est la vie. 
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Re: Stus-List Re core my deck

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Love the List! Thank you.
Jon

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Stus-List Re core my deck

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1985 35-3.
I Need to recore a 1.5’ x 3’ area of deck. 
I’ve started researching.
But I know there is good info here. 
Best material, divinycell or balsa?
Anyone know the thickness I’d need? 
Best type fiberglass to finish with?
Best way to hide it all? Deck paint and Nonskid?
Thanks in advance. 
I’ve watched a bunch of youtube and I have mentally prepared myself to take 
this on. 
Jon
Hideaway 
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Re: Stus-List delrin washer

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I just bought a solid rod of delrin and made a bushing for my cf bowsprit. I 
turned it on my wood lathe.
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> On Nov 24, 2019, at 10:46 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Actually, I made my Delran washer the other way around:
>  
> Got a square of 1/8” Delran from a buddy who owns a machine shop (actually, I 
> asked him where I could buy some and he said “Here, take this scrap section. 
> It’s too small for the things I normally need to make.”)
> Attached it to a piece of scrap plywood with a couple of spring clamp
> Cut the center hole with a hole saw
> Used the same pilot hole to cut out the washer
> I have enough material left to make at least one more washer if I ever need it
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della 
> Barba, Joe via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:32 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List delrin washer
>  
> Note – if you do it yourself, use the BIG holesaw first and then use the 
> small one in the same pilot hole.
>  
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Re: Stus-List C Rendezvous -- Florida (February 2020?)

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I’ll be down in Cape Haize (just south of Venice in January without benefit of 
boat. . Try to do then. 
Please. 
Jon
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> On Nov 5, 2019, at 2:49 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> There appears to be some interest in a winter rendezvous in sunny Florida — 
> here are a few thoughts:
> 
> 1. As you know, Florida has two coasts, east and west, with the Enterprise 
> and Water Phantom on the west coast (35 miles apart) and some others on the 
> east coast. I think the idea of having an actual boat rendezvous in a place 
> that is reachable for people to sail to is pretty slim. I also know of three 
> other C in the gulf coast and Tampa Bay areas.  
> 
> 2. Because we all boat here year-round (suck it, northerners!) marina space 
> for more than a handful of boats seems to be a stretch. Then again, see #1 
> above. 
> 
> 3. That being said, I could organize a C Owners’ Rendezvous in Sarasota 
> (even at my club in Venice), Tampa, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, or other such 
> place that could be an easy drive or flight.
> 
> I welcome everyone’s (even David Risch’s) thoughts and then I’ll put out a 
> survey. Should we have a owners’ rendezvous, what kinds of things would you 
> like the group to do (You know, besides eat and drink) — seminar, guest 
> speaker, etc.?  
> 
> If we were to do something in the Venice - Sarasota - Tampa - Clearwater 
> area, I’m sure we could get the Enterprise and Water Phantom, and perhaps one 
> or two more, to a location. I am confident that I can organize hotel (or 
> hotel options) and a place for us to meet as I do marketing and event 
> planning for a living.
> 
> Warning though -- I understand in February it can be a little chilly here, 
> with highs in the mid 70s. Br. (Insert evil laugh here.)  
> 
> Chime in, folks. Please. 
> 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL
> 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
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Re: Stus-List Support the List -- Donate to Stu

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PayPal’d an hour ago.
Jon


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Re: Stus-List If You Ever Need a Delivery Captain for your C.

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I’d love to see the route. 
Jon
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Re: Stus-List Rich Hulit

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Thanks for the tip.
Jon Pratt

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Stus-List Winter storage CT

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CT shoreline. I know there’s many but any recommendations for winter storage on 
the hard? Maybe one that allows me to do work. 
We’re in Stamford now. 
Jon Pratt
Hideaway 
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Re: Stus-List Shannon Rose

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We were there Sunday. (Along with 80 NYYC boats) didn’t know they’d be there. 
Tried to anchor for an hour. Dale, my  hero put us on a private mooring. Zero 
wind at bedtime.  Woke up to 30 kt gusts. 6 am,  Boats moved and one on the 
rocks. Can’t imagine a worse way to wake up. Two official boats attempting to 
pull them off. I’m going to invest in more chain and a better anchor. Great 
broad reach to Old Saybrook that morning. At least the start that is. 
J
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Re: Stus-List Interior and Exterior "Tours" of the Starship Enterprise

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Shouldn’t you just “Beam” it to VYC?
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Re: Stus-List Surveyors.

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Used this gent twice. 

James M. Dias – NAMS® Certified Marine Surveyor
Accredited Marine Surveyors
One Dock Lane
Guilford, CT, 06437, USA
Toll Free:
Land Line: (203) 901-5235

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> On Jun 13, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Brien Sadler via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Because I trust the opinions of the meticulous folks on this list I’m asking 
> for recommendations for a good surveyor in the southern New England (CT, MA, 
> RI) and in MD. We are in the final stages of choosing a live aboard world 
> cruiser, (not a C I’m sad to say) and will be in need of a good surveyor in 
> one of those places. Consequently our TAZ 1987 35-3 will be on the market 
> soon looking for a good home if anyone knows an interested party. Thanks for 
> all the help.
> 
> Brien Sadler
> 
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Re: Stus-List Shore Power at a Slip

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Edd,  we do shore power as described by Josh. 
Where you moving to?
‘Round the corner?
Any updates on rendezvous?
We are in Stamford now with no excuses. 
Jon Pratt
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Re: Stus-List Prop strut

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Gerry, 
Had anything to do with cutless bearing removal? 
Hope not. 
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Re: Stus-List Free 35'

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Oh jeez!
I went down there, found a 35 and sailed it home. I hope it was the right one. 
Jon


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Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

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Going to do this very thing Monday. 
I just greased the Maxprop. 
Removed the two set screws and tried to thread in a zerk fitting(grease 
nipple). Of course I forgot the prop was Italian and bought sae standard thread 
fittings. Got the metric and the rest was easy. Darn prop took almost an entire 
tube of grease. 
Now onto the rudder post. I should probably do that in metric. 
Jon Pratt
Hideaway 35-3
1 mile from The Office across the river. 
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Re: Stus-List Weird rod

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Yep, rod in front of rudder. I think it’s called the Rudder Rod.
J
> On Apr 26, 2019, at 2:23 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a metal rod in front of the rudder, which I believe is to help avoid 
> seaweed and other floating debris from fouling the rudder post.  Nothing at 
> all in front of the keel though.
> 
> Tom B
> 
> .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com 
> 
> 
> 
> At 09:00 AM 4/26/2019, you wrote:
> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 15:58:42 + (UTC)
>> From: johnr...@aol.com
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Metal Rod Forward of Keel
>> Message-ID: <1965119471.1023889.1556294322...@mail.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> All the C's in our yard have a metal rod that protrudes from the underside 
>> just ahead of the keel.? No one seems to know its purpose.
>> John McLaughlinC 29-2Falcon
> 
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Re: Stus-List Cutless bearing.

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What he said.
Jp


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Re: Stus-List Grenadine's Paint Job

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Everything in its place

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Re: Stus-List Filling diesel tank

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I use cans with these gadgets below.
Not a drop hits the deck:

NO SPILL 6132 Gas Can Nozzle Assembly (ONLY fits No-Spill cans 2010 and later)

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> On Oct 25, 2018, at 10:16 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I will soon be topping off my diesel tank for the winter, which I usually do 
> by pouring fuel through a funnel with a water filter from a 5 gal jerry can.  
> I have found it nearly impossible to pour into the funnel from a full 5 gal 
> container and hit the funnel without spilling diesel all over the transom and 
> into the water if still at the dock.  Has anyone found a device that works or 
> come up with a clever way to transfer fuel without spilling?  Thanks- Dave
>  
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
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Re: Stus-List Cutlass bearings

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We replaced shaft with rudder in place. There is a gadget that presses the 
cutlass bearing out with shaft in place. I got me one. I’ve read they’re 
finicky. As in, they work great on brand new cutlass bearings. Never used it 
because we changed the CB when new shaft installed. 
J
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> On Sep 24, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looking to replace the cutlass bearing 
> on my 1985 35 mk3.
> Any info would be helpful.
>  Does the rudder have to be removed or will the shaft slide by it?
> Is there a special tool for removing it without removing the shaft?
> 
> Thanks
> Gerry Fennessey
> Fianna
>  
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List 2018 C Northeast Rendezvous -- Go or No Go?

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Ok, We’re in. I’ll figure it out. 
Jp

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> On Jul 24, 2018, at 5:26 PM, John via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Olivia Grace is confirmed. What do I need to do. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2018, at 5:23 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> If Olivia Grace confirms and Destrier confirms, I’ll keep it going. 4 boats 
>> will be a good base and hopefully there will be more. 
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Edd
>> 
>> 
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Starship Enterprise
>> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>> City Island, NY 
>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2018, at 5:20 PM, John via CnC-List  wrote:
>> 
>> I am the owner of Olivia Grace. She is a Landfall 38 that just went though a 
>> complete refit. This was going to be her coming out party. Please let me 
>> know if the the Rondezvous is happening or not. We hope it will not be 
>> canceled. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Cleverboy via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Edd
>>> 
>>> I have questions about the rendezvous. This would be the first for me. My 
>>> wife, son and daughter-in-law would like to drive out to see us at the 
>>> rendezvous. How would that be considered? There would be three of us 
>>> staying on the boat. 
>>> 
>>> Charles Ferrari
>>> Destrier
>>> C 30 mk1
>>> Evers Marina, Bronx, NY
>>>  
>>> From: CnC-List  on behalf of David via 
>>> CnC-List 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:16 PM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Cc: David
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 2018 C Northeast Rendezvous -- Go or No Go?
>>>  
>>> Actually.   Did sleep with bride.   Still getting married.   Telling that...
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for Android
>>> 
>>>  
>>> From: CnC-List  on behalf of JP Mail via 
>>> CnC-List 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:56:05 PM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Cc: JP Mail
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 2018 C Northeast Rendezvous -- Go or No Go?
>>>  
>>> Yes, not looking so good for me either. I’m determined to keep Hideaway on 
>>> the Sound next year though. It will make LIS and parts east accessible.  
>>> J
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 23, 2018, at 1:45 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Listers,
>>>> 
>>>> With the 2018 C Northeast Rendezvous in Milford (www.cncnortheast.com) 
>>>> just over a month away, I am contemplating cancelling the event this 
>>>> year…. 
>>>> 
>>>> So far, from the regulars:
>>>> Hanuman is sold. 
>>>> Aries is damaged.
>>>> David Risch (Corsair) has to go to a wedding that weekend and refuses to 
>>>> sleep with the bride (or even the groom) to break up the wedding. 
>>>> No word yet from others . . . 
>>>> 
>>>> I’ll keep the registration open for another two weeks, but without boats 
>>>> attending, I’d rather not be on the hook for restaurant and marina holds. 
>>>> 
>>>> Hope to get some C together this year, but, if not, we’ll plan 
>>>> something big for 2019.  
>>>> 
>>>> All the best,
>>>> 
>>>> Edd
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Edd M. Schillay
>>>> Starship Enterprise
>>>> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>>>> City Island, NY 
>>>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Stus-List 2018 C Northeast Rendezvous -- Go or No Go?

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Yes, not looking so good for me either. I’m determined to keep Hideaway on the 
Sound next year though. It will make LIS and parts east accessible. 
J

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> On Jul 23, 2018, at 1:45 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> With the 2018 C Northeast Rendezvous in Milford (www.cncnortheast.com) just 
> over a month away, I am contemplating cancelling the event this year…. 
> 
> So far, from the regulars:
> Hanuman is sold. 
> Aries is damaged.
> David Risch (Corsair) has to go to a wedding that weekend and refuses to 
> sleep with the bride (or even the groom) to break up the wedding. 
> No word yet from others . . . 
> 
> I’ll keep the registration open for another two weeks, but without boats 
> attending, I’d rather not be on the hook for restaurant and marina holds. 
> 
> Hope to get some C together this year, but, if not, we’ll plan something 
> big for 2019.  
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Reinstalling plexi windows...again.

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PO of Hideaway 35-3 had stainless steel frames made for the windows when they 
were replaced.  They look sharp, cover the seam well. He said they weren’t 
cheap. I imagine they were glued on. 
Jon Pratt

>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Happy spring??  I recall someone commented on priming and/or painting the 
>> smoke-tint plexiglass edge areas,  prior to installing, to hide the the VHB 
>> and Dow 795, so all does not show through the smoke plexi against the white 
>> cabin side along those edge areas.
>> 
>> I have the window dug out, whew, and cleaned up with Mechanica silicone 
>> remover and mineral spirits.  I actually lost only three patches of knuckle 
>> skin. I have also sanded the receiving perimeter of the plexi where it will 
>> make contact with the tape and/or paint.
>> 
>> I could not find the mention of the painting step in the archive.  Has 
>> anyone painted this and have advice?  I purchased a can of Krylon High-bond 
>> plastic paint in flat black. It's waiting in the barn...  Thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck Saur
>> ​Morning Sky
>> C 35-3
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Re: Stus-List Not C & C but boat related...Trophys

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I’m sitting in my restaurant at the bar and the guy (a friend)sitting across 
from me works in the foundry that makes the Oscars. I could ask him for some 
defects. 
J

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> On Feb 1, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> One local regatta used conch shell "horns" of varying sizes and levels of 
> adornment. 
> 
> Not sure where they got them, but they were along these lines: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Bina
> 
>> On 2/1/2018 9:31 AM, David via CnC-List wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I am responsible for the trophys for a a fairly large NE regatta and do not 
>> want to do the same old same old.  PHRF boats on down to Lasers.
>> 
>> Any observations or experiences out there of great trophy ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
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Re: Stus-List C emblem

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Yes please. 
J

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> On Dec 10, 2017, at 2:04 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey folk,
> 
> I know that there has been mixed attempts by me and others to makr 
> replacement emblems/badges for our boats.  I've been holding out for a laser 
> engraved look and finally found a local fab shop that now has an epilog laser 
> engraver.  I'm currently working to get prototypes made.  Thanks to Gary 
> Russell I already had a great foundation to start with he had made 3D and 2D 
> CAD files for his own badge project.
> 
> I'm looking to get a 24"x12" piece of 316 SS in a mirror finish cut down to 
> 24"x2.5".  This size will cover the existing scar which will need filled and 
> fared.  I'll use VHB tape to attach the badge, much like on cars.  The 
> background will be laser eched to leave the characters mirrored.  I've 
> attempted to mock up what it will look like in the link below.  I'll keep 
> everyone posted as the project progresses.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1KI8v0vBxinJAIBF7ZWV88wbDthptr57H
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD 
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Re: Stus-List Mega Prototype?

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

Good Old Boat had a “History of” story about the Mega. Not sure of the issue. I 
believe the editors have one. 
Jon

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> On Dec 5, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sure looks like a Mega 30… but in aluminum.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 9:43 PM, Don Harben via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I am curious about the story behind this C Is this a prototype Mega?
>> 
>> Don
>> 
>>  Voilier de 30 pieds en aluminium avec remorque
>> 
>> Aluminum sailboat built by C & C in 1978, was in dry dock at C & C for 10 
>> years, launched in 1988. Retractable keel with chain block ratchet, simple 
>> and effective keel lock, Honda engine 4 stroke 20 HP long foot 2009, about 
>> 250 hours, dinghy Silver marine 9 feet 2008,1 large battened sail in good 
>> condition, 2 genoa, 1 battened jib, 1 asymmetrical spinnaker new with 
>> outrigger. Profiled mast 40 feet on candlestick, boom 14 feet, tiller with 
>> saffron jack knife, 2 winch on cabin + 2 2-speed winch cockpit, frank paint 
>> made in 2016, Jabsco toilet and flexible Vetus tank, drain plug on deck , 
>> water intake, sink, cooler compartment, VHF radio, sound system + 2 
>> speakers, depth gauge, lock for speed, to repair, wind vane and VHF antenna 
>> at the masthead. the floors are redone and I sell it with new floors not yet 
>> installed, can sleep 2 small people in the clamp + 2 front berths and 2 rear 
>> berths. rear navigation lights and starboard bow to the balcony. 2 Danforth 
>> anchors 25 lbs with 50 feet of chain each, one with 200 feet this cable, the 
>> other with 150 feet of cable. electrical panel with circuit breakers, light 
>> in the passenger compartment and in the clamp. Cockpit cushions and cushions 
>> inside in good condition. 5 life jackets, 1 life saver and life line, 2 ABC 
>> fire extinguishers, manual bilge pump. Sailboat fully insulated with 
>> urethane. the ceiling finish remains to be done, several defenses. The 
>> sailboat is 30 feet over all and has a 7 foot 10 inch master beam, the draft 
>> is 6 feet 6 inches. Comes with a double axle trailer, I only use it for the 
>> launching and the exit of the water, the trailer has a retractable balm with 
>> pin, which facilitates the launching with a pick up 4 x 4 3/4 tons. Weight 
>> of the trailer and the sailboat, 5 tons. A survey for insurance is planned 
>> next spring, according to the latest survey, the boat is very solid and 
>> built with aviation grade high quality aluminum. There is still a bit of arm 
>> oil to do but at this price, for an aluminum sailboat is a bargain. We sell 
>> it for the purchase of an offshore sailboat in anticipation of trips. 
>> Negotiable price. Serious buyers please contact me by email
>> 
>> Don Harben
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Re: Stus-List Does anyone know the type of black plastic (Marelon?) stanchion base used on my C?

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

And this one...
rigrite.com

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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bruce,
> 
> Here is a link to a replacement: http://southshoreyachts.com/shop/typedbas/ 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 18, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> It is a 1994 C 37/40+.  
> 
> I have one stanchion base that is cracked that I'd like to replace.
> 
> Thanks! 
>  
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Stus-List Lost at sea...um , yeah

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I also heard them say in an interview that they made it to an island but 
couldn’t get into the harbor so they left. 
Jp

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> On Oct 31, 2017, at 9:20 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Pass the oatmeal, please.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 9:14 AM
> To: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
> Cc: Danny Haughey
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Lost at sea...um , yeah
> 
> right, at first they would have died if they were at sea another 24
> hours and now it's that they didn't use the epirb because their lives
> were never in danger...
> 
> Danny
> 
> 
>> On 10/31/2017 8:11 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List wrote:
>> Today’s reveal was that the women had an EPIRB that they failed to use.
>> One of the sailors Jennifer “Fer” Appel, had an earlier career as an Amateur 
>> Motorcycle Roadracer.  In her search for sponsorship she routinely 
>> embellished her accomplishments according to several of my friends who were 
>> involved in the sport.
>> Perhaps a vivid imagination can be fueled by 5 months at sea, but the more I 
>> learn of their “ordeal”, the more skeptical I become.
>> And to top it off, she’s claiming the rescue ship caused irreparable damage 
>> to her vessel by attempting to tow it.  She is actually blaming their 
>> rescuers!
>> Amazing!
>> Chuck Gilchrest
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Leslie Paal via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 4 knots in 30 days is 2880 nmiles.  Could reach civilization from most 
>>> places in the Pacific
>>> 
>>> Reliance on electronics only will leave you in deep
>>> 
>>> Leslie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 10/27/17, David Knecht via CnC-List  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List News story
>>> To: "CnC CnC discussion list" 
>>> Cc: "David Knecht" 
>>> Date: Friday, October 27, 2017, 2:32 PM
>>> 
>>> Yes, but the
>>> report in the UK Mail says that they had a mast problem, and
>>> could sail at 4-5 knots. I don’t see why that is a
>>> problem.  The real question is now they got “lost”.
>>>  Did they have no navigational capability?  No solar or
>>> wind power?  Also, they lost their cell phone overboard the
>>> first day.  What use is a cell phone in the Pacific Ocean?
>>>  Lots more to hear on this one.  Dave
>>> 
>>> Aries1990
>>> C 34+New
>>> London, CT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2017, at 6:51 AM, Danny
>>> Haughey via CnC-List 
>>> wrote:
>>>  According to the
>>> morning news, part of their rigging broke and they oatmeal,
>>> pasta and rice.
>>> Danny
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my T-Mobile
>>> 4G LTE Device
>>>  Original message
>>> From: Brad Crawford
>>> via CnC-List 
>>> Date: 10/26/17  10:05 PM
>>> (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Cc: Brad Crawford 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List News
>>> story
>>> What happened to
>>> sailing?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Oct 26, 2017, at 4:01 PM, John
>>> Pennie via CnC-List 
>>> wrote:
 Ok, wtf? Story on
>>> news tonight about a sailboat that was stranded in the
>>> Pacific for 5months after their engine broke down on an
>>> otherwise functional boat.  Apparently the crew survived as
>>> they had a water maker and a year’s supply of oatmeal.
>>> Something not add up here?  And who really has a 1 year
>>> supply of oatmeal for two people and a dog?
 Gotta be more coming on this
>>> one...
 John
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Serial number

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Hideaway has the same situation. It’s an ‘85 model built in ‘84. Your HIN says 
it’s an 85 as does ours. I believe the documentation says ‘84 though. When you 
sell it’s an ‘85. When you buy it it’s an ‘84.

Jp 
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> On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:24 AM, steve dewar via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I just purchased a C 35 mkiii. The previous owner states it’s a 1985, but 
> looking at the original paperwork, it could be a 1984. How do you tell by 
> looking at the HIN #?
> The number is ZCC 35154H485. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks
> 
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Re: Stus-List C 37+ xl for sale

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It’s the GREEN. 

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> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Scary how inexpensive. Maybe there’s something very wrong with her. 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone seen this?
>> 
>> http://marinesource.com/boats-for-sale/listing_details.cfm?Yacht=1990-37-C-C-37-XL-Plus-Berkeley-CA=100784958
>> 
>> Seems really inexpensive!
>> 
>> Danny
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

Called but I didn't purchase the blocks, they came with the boat. No worries. 
J

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> On Sep 15, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Did you call Guido?  No warranty coverage?
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2017 12:22 PM, "JP Mail via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Minor note: love the G cars and blocks. Though last Friday while approaching 
>> Orient Point LH in following sea and 20+ kt gusts I heard a bang. That metal 
>> on metal sound you don't want to hear on a boat. The 60-13UB block blew out. 
>> Body is there but sheave and all associated bearings and what not gone. 
>> Gunna buy a new one. 
>> J
>> Hideaway
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m a Garhauer fan, too. Every piece of hardware on the 38 is Garhauer 
>>> except the OEN backstay adjuster and the Harken rachet block on the furling 
>>> line. On my 25, the OEM traveler is still there, but everything else is 
>>> Garhauer.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I’m not so much afraid Garhauer will raise prices. I worry that all our 
>>> good comments will alert more boaters to high quality, super customer 
>>> service, and low prices and they won’t be able to handle the resulting 
>>> value when folks switch away from Harken and Lewmar.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Rick Brass
>>> 
>>> Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47
>>> 
>>> la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225
>>> 
>>> Washington, NC
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
>>> Dziedzic via CnC-List
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:11 PM
>>> To: C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> Cc: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> +1 on Garhauer.
>>> 
>>> I wish we had more companies like that. I am only afraid that if we give 
>>> them all the kudos, they would raise the prices.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Marek 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  Original message 
>>> 
>>> From: John Irvin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> 
>>> Date: 8/30/17 10:50 (GMT-05:00)
>>> 
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> 
>>> Cc: John Irvin <skis...@outlook.com>
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Add me to the last st of very satisfied customers - vang, cars on a C 
>>> 27-III.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It was posted a while ago, that Garhauer Marine no longer sells ball 
>>> bearing jib cars but only sold cars with plastic (Delrin) bearings.  I've 
>>> found this not to be completely correct.  If you really want ball bearings, 
>>> you can talk to Guido and he will make them for you (same price).  They 
>>> prefer to sell the plastic ones because many customers have had trouble 
>>> installing or removing the cars and losing bearings (they don't float).  He 
>>> said there's not a significant performance difference between ball bearing 
>>> and plastic, but conceded that the ball bearings were slightly better.  I 
>>> ordered the ball bearing version and am very happy with them.  If your are 
>>> careful installing them, they are easy to install and work very well.  
>>> Garhauer makes bullet proof stuff at a very reasonable price.  I have no 
>>> affiliation with Garhauer Marine or any of their employees.  I'm just a 
>>> happy customer that has purchased many products from them.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> S/V Kaylarah
>>> 
>>> '90 C 37+
>>> 
>>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

Minor note: love the G cars and blocks. Though last Friday while approaching 
Orient Point LH in following sea and 20+ kt gusts I heard a bang. That metal on 
metal sound you don't want to hear on a boat. The 60-13UB block blew out. Body 
is there but sheave and all associated bearings and what not gone. Gunna buy a 
new one. 
J
Hideaway


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> On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m a Garhauer fan, too. Every piece of hardware on the 38 is Garhauer except 
> the OEN backstay adjuster and the Harken rachet block on the furling line. On 
> my 25, the OEM traveler is still there, but everything else is Garhauer.
>  
> I’m not so much afraid Garhauer will raise prices. I worry that all our good 
> comments will alert more boaters to high quality, super customer service, and 
> low prices and they won’t be able to handle the resulting value when folks 
> switch away from Harken and Lewmar.
>  
> Rick Brass
> Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47
> la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225
> Washington, NC
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
> Dziedzic via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:11 PM
> To: C List 
> Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars
>  
> +1 on Garhauer.
> I wish we had more companies like that. I am only afraid that if we give them 
> all the kudos, they would raise the prices.
>  
> Marek 
>  
>  
>  Original message 
> From: John Irvin via CnC-List 
> Date: 8/30/17 10:50 (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: John Irvin 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Garhauer Genoa Cars
>  
> Add me to the last st of very satisfied customers - vang, cars on a C 
> 27-III.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> It was posted a while ago, that Garhauer Marine no longer sells ball bearing 
> jib cars but only sold cars with plastic (Delrin) bearings.  I've found this 
> not to be completely correct.  If you really want ball bearings, you can talk 
> to Guido and he will make them for you (same price).  They prefer to sell the 
> plastic ones because many customers have had trouble installing or removing 
> the cars and losing bearings (they don't float).  He said there's not a 
> significant performance difference between ball bearing and plastic, but 
> conceded that the ball bearings were slightly better.  I ordered the ball 
> bearing version and am very happy with them.  If your are careful installing 
> them, they are easy to install and work very well.  Garhauer makes bullet 
> proof stuff at a very reasonable price.  I have no affiliation with Garhauer 
> Marine or any of their employees.  I'm just a happy customer that has 
> purchased many products from them.
>  
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
> ~~~_/)~~
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Re: Stus-List C Northeast Rendezvous Recap

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I'll second all that Edd said, and add what a great bunch of people were there. 
Lots of insight and lots of laughs. And lots of beverages. The location was 
great, with excellent facilities and Aldo's Coffee  literally at the edge of 
the marina. Hamilton Park Marina will be a destination for me again. Can't wait 
for Port Jeff!
J
Hideaway 

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> On Sep 10, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Greetings from Branford, CT, just shy of 40 miles away from Greenport, the 
> location of our C Northeast Rendezvous. 
> 
> Though big Westerly winds (and waves) kept some from attending, the presence 
> of Hanuman, Harbor Lights, Aries, Hideaway, the Enterprise and, from as far 
> away as Maryland, the owners of Sea Hawk, made for another spectacular event. 
> 
> Great food, great friends, great stories and great booze running from rum, 
> dark n stormies, moonshine, beers, scotch, cheap wine, reportedly expensive 
> wine, and, yes, Romulan Ale (illegal, but we were 100 miles from Federation 
> space). 
> 
> The C boat show (informal tours of attendees' boats) was very well 
> attended, and both interesting and informative. The Sunday 6:30am 
> calisthenics? Not so much. Especially after burning the midnight oil having 
> C's (cocktails and cigars) on our C's. 
> 
> The days went by too quickly and it wasn't long before a major announcement 
> had to be made:
> 
> Announcing the 2018 C Northeast Rendezvous in Port Jefferson! Stay tuned 
> for details as they are formed. 
> 
> Thanks to all for a fantastic ultra-memorable weekend. 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> ---
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> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> www.StarshipSailing.com
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Re: Stus-List Whereabouts???

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So if the numbers for the rendezvous get too low we can make it C's which 
would open it up quite a bit. 
J
Hideaway

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> On Sep 6, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> H.  I think I'll bring my deflector shield just in case.   Jerry 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 6, 2017, at 11:03 AM, coltrek via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pretty cool. Can I buy one of those?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Bill Coleman 
>>  C 39
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
>> Date: 9/5/17 09:14 (GMT-05:00) 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Cc: Edd Schillay  
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Whereabouts??? 
>> 
>> Yes Jerry. You should come! 
>> 
>> We will not fire any photon torpedoes at your Hunter -- promise. 
>> 
>> ... though I can't make any promises to other non-C who show up. Here 
>> is an example of when the Enterprise was approached by a hostile Taylor 34 
>> sloop:
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/_hja2puzxwk
>> 
>> Departing Norwalk in 45 minutes. Next stop: Milford Yacht Club. 
>> 
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Edd
>> 
>> ---
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Captain of the Starship Enterprise 
>> C 37+ 
>> Sail Number: NCC-1701-B
>> City Island, New York
>> ---
>> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
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>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Jerry,
>> Come to the Rendezvous. Bring the Hunter. It will be fun. We can marvel at 
>> the amenities:).  This is more about people than boats. Ama and I would love 
>> to see you and Janet. 
>> 
>> Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!
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Re: Stus-List Whereabouts???

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Tomorrow is Norwalk Cove. Tonight is One15 marina in Brooklyn looking at 
skyline of NYC. Unfortunately I'm drinking all the rum allocated for the 
rendezvous. 

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> On Sep 4, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are you going to visit sunset grill?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
> Date: 9/4/17 4:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Edd Schillay 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Whereabouts???
> 
> Norwalk Cove Marina. Slip A10E. 
> 
> Day One of our (Star) Trek to the C Rendezvous in Greenport. 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> ---
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise 
> C 37+ 
> Sail Number: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, New York
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> 
> On Sep 4, 2017, at 1:06 PM, Paul Marble via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Green Cove Springs, Florida
> 
> Paul Marble
> S/V Tina Marie
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Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

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Yup. Great boat. Offer, survey, adjust the offer or not, buy, go sail. We love 
our boat. Truthfully, the key is a really thorough survey. Decide what you can 
live with and are willing to pay for the boat. Whether or not it is a good boat 
is easy for all on this forum. 
Maybe drive on down to the Northeast Rendezvous and speak to the owners. 
 
The other Jonathan
Hideaway '85 35-3
The mighty Hudson River


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> On Aug 22, 2017, at 11:55 AM, schiller via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Daniel,
> 
> We are also looking at a 1983 C 35, Mark III that is listed at $29,900 so 
> we will be interested in what your final offer is.  We are going to look at a 
> C 32 Thursday for comparison.  We have already looked at a 38.  We will 
> make our decision on which boat to go after by the end of the week.
> 
> Good luck in your negotiations and purchase.
> 
> Neil Schiller
> Formerly: 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (Dismasted)
> (C 35, Mark I)
> "Corsair"
> 
>> On 8/22/2017 9:39 AM, Daniel Dickinson via CnC-List wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all. 
>> 
>>   Just put an offer in on a c 35 m3 and looking for advice, additional 
>> resources, reassurance that this is a good boat. I'm upgrading from a Tanzer 
>> 26 and am sailing primarily in the Portland Maine area. 
>> 
>> The listing 
>> http://www.boats.com/sailing-boats/1983-c-c-35-mark-iii-6277990/#.WZwzq4UpCEc
>> 
>> Or you can google c mark iii maine and it's the first result. 
>> Boats name is katahdid. 
>> 
>> Offer is for 25,000. Survey in a week. 
>> 
>> Thanks. 
>> 
>> -daniel
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List feckless meanderings - Dylan

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

Two good boat names there.
Mystery Tramp and Alibi.
J

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> On Aug 1, 2017, at 7:43 PM, sender via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Ahhh... so maybe Bob Dylan was a Yacht Broker before got into music??
> 
> You say you never compromise
> With the mystery tramp, but now you realize
> He's not selling any alibis
> As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
> And say: Do you want to make a deal?
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Boots Of Spanish Leather
>> WRITTEN BY: BOB DYLAN 
>> Oh, I’m sailin’ away my own true love
>> I’m sailin’ away in the morning
>> Is there something I can send you from across the sea
>> From the place that I’ll be landing?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2017, at 4:33 PM, G Collins via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The song Mr. Tambourine Man does have the line "take me on a trip upon your 
>>> magic swirlin' ship", and there is a C here with the name Magic Swirlin' 
>>> Ship
>>> Graham Collins
>>> Secret Plans
>>> C 35-III #11
 On 2017-07-30 1:46 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:
 "I am younger than that now."
 
 Must be a Dylan fan.
 Does he have any songs about sailboats?  Anything we can adapt to old C?
 Finally had a day under 90 F friday and went out sailing.  Winds at 20 
 with gusts as high as 28mph; used my 160% genny only and it was a great 
 choice, although tacking took a while.  Once through the tack, the wind 
 just kept blowing the bow down.  Had to gain speed and nurse it back to 
 windward.  Downwind was a blast!
 Ron
 Wild Cheri
 C 30-1
 STL
 
 From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 Cc: Dennis C. 
 Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 5:57 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid boom vangs - rivets vs screws
 
 Too funny. After my post favoring SS rivets, I get to Touché today to see 
 1/4 inch Phillips machine screws on the vang bracket. :)
 
 Well, it was many years ago when I installed it; I am younger than that 
 now. 
 
 Dennis C.
 
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 On Jul 27, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
 One thing to remember about the Garhauer vang is that the attachment to 
 both the mast and the boom are custom made for the boat (you send them the 
 profile of the mast and boom when you order the vang), and the plates 
 attached to the mast and boom wrap significantly around the spars. (On my 
 25 about half of the boom is cradled in the attached plate. ) So the 
 fasteners connecting the plate to the spar are under primarily shear 
 loading, not tensile.
  
 For this sort of configuration, the additional cross section of the 
 machine screw (or cap screw, if you use  those) would seem the better 
 choice. If, however, you have something like a Boomkicker, or a vang with 
 “generic” mounting plates that don’t curve around the spars, rivets might 
 be a better choice.
  
 Rick Brass
 Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47
 la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225
 Washington, NC
  
 BTW, both have Garhauer vangs.
  
 
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Clogged icebox drain

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

On a previous boat I had a friend spray a pressure washer into the through hull 
while boat was on stands. Of course I was in the galley staring at the drain. 
Yeah, just going to say don't do that. 
Jon Pratt
Hideaway 35-3

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> wrote:
> 
> I had the same situation with the drain on my 26. When all efforts of 
> snaking, vacuuming, and applying compressed air from both ends failed, I 
> resorted to cutting an access hole into the inaccessible area below the 
> icebox for a peek. Somehow the hose got twisted 360 degrees and was simply 
> "kinked".  Try twisting the hose 1 turn in either direction with a quntity of 
> water in the box. You'll know pretty quickly if you get it freed.
> 
> Allen White
> '77 C 26  Aura
> Rhinebeck, NY 
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Re: Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

Mathew,
I'm (diagonally) across the river from you in Ossining. 
Hope to wave to you one day this summer. 
Jon


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> On Jul 26, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for all who responded. 
> FYI
> 
> As my current mechanic does not have confidence that the repair is a good 
> idea, I am opting to buy a new pump.
> 
> I used this suggested link for source (thank you):
> http://www.depcopump.com/
> I spoke to Jim who was really helpful.
> 
> It seems I have a Yanmar #721575-42702 pump on the boat
> This means the boat was marinized in the states and their price was similar - 
> $528
> But there is also a Yanmar #128397-42500 pump for boats that were marinized 
> in Europe. - $242
> Jim says they are interchangeable - I opt to save the $300.
> I think this is why many of you say they spent less. You might have had the 
> other pump or substituted for it.
> The two pumps have different Impellers - the less expensive one I think has a 
> split shaft.
> Interesting I think I noticed Joel had both kinds of impellers on the boat.
> 
> I will send the old pump out for repair and either keep it as a back up or 
> sell one.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Matthew Schlanger
> The Office
> C 35 Mk3
> Nyack, NY
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 4:57 PM, ahycrace via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Fix the pump if possible 
>> 
>> Gary Kolc "Liberty"
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List 
>> Date: 7/25/17 11:45 AM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Matthew Schlanger 
>> Subject: Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF
>> 
>> I was wondering if anyone knew of sources for replacement water pumps for my 
>> Yanmar 3GMF.
>> It’s leaking and Yanmar wants $549 for an official Yanmar replacement!
>> 
>> Are there reasonable alternatives?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> Matthew Schlanger
>> The Office
>> C 35 MKIII
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

Ok. Got it. Let's get back to bilge pumps and varnishes. 
Jon

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> On Jul 19, 2017, at 9:37 AM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> I hold a 75 Tom Ocean Operatoms license. 
> 
> It was Not dragging a net and not fishing.  Just booms down.   
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
> 
> 
> ---- Original message 
> From: JP Mail via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> Date: 7/18/17 3:42 PM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: JP Mail <jon.peterpr...@gmail.com> 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road 
> 
> Correct. This guy had stabilizers out and dragging a net. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>> "Fishing" means a commercial vessel dragging gear, not some guy trolling.
>> 
>> Joel
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 3:19 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> Vessel engaged in Fishing is restricted in her ability to move and has the 
>>> right away over sailing vessel. 
>>> Yeah, just got the 6 pack license. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 2:07 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We were powered up on a broad reach with a chute heading eastward down LIS 
>>>> doing about 9 knots with just Lady Di and I.  Clear  September weekday so 
>>>> empty waters.  And a rare morning sail with great wind from the right 
>>>> direction. 
>>>> 
>>>> Fishing dragger with stabilizers down is slowing bearing down on us from 
>>>> astern.   30 minutes later and he would have run right up our transom if I 
>>>> did not alter course and risk a roundup in the process 
>>>> 
>>>> Prick was on bridge.  Wouldnt answer radio.  
>>>> 
>>>> Some of those commercial guys just have a bad attitude towards us 
>>>> "yachties"  
>>>> 
>>>> Either it's black or white with them...competent or maliciously 
>>>> incompetent.  
>>>> 
>>>> 1981 40-2.  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Original message 
>>>> From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>>>> Date: 7/18/17 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>>>> To: Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>>>> Cc: Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com> 
>>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road 
>>>> 
>>>> when we were on our 22 foot sailboat we got swamped by a bis a$$ powers 
>>>> boat's wake because he couldn't be bother to give us any room and passed 
>>>> us about 20 feet off our bow throwing a 4' wake. Then they had the nerve 
>>>> to wave...  My wife waved back with 1 finger while hanging off the 
>>>> shrouds.  That wake came up over the bow and right down the companionway...
>>>> 
>>>> Last summer, I was watching this sail boat flying a spinnaker closing on 
>>>> us from the stern to port.  We were running wing and wing doing about 4 
>>>> knots in a light breeze.  Now, I watched them for at least 40 minutes, 
>>>> when I first saw them they could simply have changed their course by one 
>>>> degree and came well aft. instead, they close within shouting distance 
>>>> and the lady on the helm yells over, "can you give us some room?"  I 
>>>> shouted back, "what do you want me to do?"  she replies, "head up!"  
>>>> Upon which two other crew members seemed to say something to her and 
>>>> they dropped the sock over the spin, came across my stern and opened the 
>>>> little spin back up.  I assumed the stand on position of being the 
>>>> overtaken vessel and knew it was their job to get around me. I could not 
>>>> figure out what they were doing and decided the best thing i could do 
>>>> was stand on.  Luckily it worked out!
>>>> 
>>>> Danny
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/18/2017 12:59 PM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List wrote:
>>>> > Glad you were able get away without any damages... I have had a few of 
>>>> > these here in Chesapeake. Once the "captain" of the power boat actually 
>>

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

Got it. 
Jon

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> On Jul 18, 2017, at 5:32 PM, BillBinaList via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> You still need to go back and read rule 13 until you understand it. The 
> colregs are deliberately vague and some rules supercede others depending on 
> situation. Your quote is only correct in very basic terms. A fishing boat 
> with a net dragging behind does not have complete immunity to the colregs in 
> all situations. In admiralty court, all parties will be assigned some portion 
> of the blame for any collision. It is almost unheard of for any captain in a 
> collision to come out without being assigned any percentage of the blame. If 
> you are properly anchored in a designated anchorage, and are asleep in your 
> bunk when a drunk plows into your boat at 2:30 am, you will be held partly 
> responsible because you will be found to have violated some colregs. I 
> Guarantee it.  In this case as described, the fishing vessel was overtaking, 
> which give it responsibility to stay clear. That supercedes their position in 
> the pecking order in a crossing situation. Rule 13 and Rule 2 are in play 
> here. 
> Bill Bina
> 
>> On 7/18/2017 4:26 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote:
>> Yes. As I said, license to learn. 
>> 
>> "Each of these vessels must keep out of the way of the next vessel. For 
>> example, a sailboat must keep out of the way of a vessel engaged in fishing, 
>> which in turn must keep out of the way of a vessel with restricted 
>> maneuverability. And everyone must keep out of the way of a vessel not under 
>> command."
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Failure to really know and UNDERSTAND the colregs is why boats hit boats. 
>>> Congratulations on your license, but you may still have some larnin' to do, 
>>> son. Colregs depend on everyone knowing and doing what is expected, but 
>>> allows for those who don't. A stand on vessel that gives way is screwing up 
>>> the system. Being unpredictable is not what a licensed captain ever wants 
>>> to be. Many on this list have had licenses at levels from 6-pack up to 100 
>>> ton Masters for years and decades. :-) 
>>> 
>>> Bill Bina
>>> 
>>>> On 7/18/2017 3:45 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote:
>>>> This is why boats hit boats. Sorry I mentioned it. Me personally, with 
>>>> license sitting in the desk at home, I would give way to a vessel with 
>>>> gear down and dragging a net. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> See also Rule 2, and Rule 13. There is no such thing as "right of way" 
>>>>> except for one specific instance in the inland rules. The fishing vessel 
>>>>> was in the wrong in this case as described. :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill Bina
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/18/2017 3:19 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote:
>>>>>> Vessel engaged in Fishing is restricted in her ability to move and has 
>>>>>> the right away over sailing vessel. 
>>>>>> Yeah, just got the 6 pack license. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 2:07 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We were powered up on a broad reach with a chute heading eastward down 
>>>>>>> LIS doing about 9 knots with just Lady Di and I.  Clear  September 
>>>>>>> weekday so empty waters.  And a rare morning sail with great wind from 
>>>>>>> the right direction. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Fishing dragger with stabilizers down is slowing bearing down on us 
>>>>>>> from astern.   30 minutes later and he would have run right up our 
>>>>>>> transom if I did not alter course and risk a roundup in the process 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Prick was on bridge.  Wouldnt answer radio.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Some of those commercial guys just have a bad attitude towards us 
>>>>>>> "yachties"  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Either it's black or whit

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

I agree with sticking to the rules, but I will not endanger my passengers by 
sticking to them while I let an idiot ram my boat. That's all I'm sayin'
With respect,
Jon

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> On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Failure to really know and UNDERSTAND the colregs is why boats hit boats. 
> Congratulations on your license, but you may still have some larnin' to do, 
> son. Colregs depend on everyone knowing and doing what is expected, but 
> allows for those who don't. A stand on vessel that gives way is screwing up 
> the system. Being unpredictable is not what a licensed captain ever wants to 
> be. Many on this list have had licenses at levels from 6-pack up to 100 ton 
> Masters for years and decades. :-) 
> 
> Bill Bina
> 
>> On 7/18/2017 3:45 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote:
>> This is why boats hit boats. Sorry I mentioned it. Me personally, with 
>> license sitting in the desk at home, I would give way to a vessel with gear 
>> down and dragging a net. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> See also Rule 2, and Rule 13. There is no such thing as "right of way" 
>>> except for one specific instance in the inland rules. The fishing vessel 
>>> was in the wrong in this case as described. :-)
>>> 
>>> Bill Bina
>>> 
>>>> On 7/18/2017 3:19 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote:
>>>> Vessel engaged in Fishing is restricted in her ability to move and has the 
>>>> right away over sailing vessel. 
>>>> Yeah, just got the 6 pack license. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 2:07 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We were powered up on a broad reach with a chute heading eastward down 
>>>>> LIS doing about 9 knots with just Lady Di and I.  Clear  September 
>>>>> weekday so empty waters.  And a rare morning sail with great wind from 
>>>>> the right direction. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fishing dragger with stabilizers down is slowing bearing down on us from 
>>>>> astern.   30 minutes later and he would have run right up our transom if 
>>>>> I did not alter course and risk a roundup in the process 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Prick was on bridge.  Wouldnt answer radio.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some of those commercial guys just have a bad attitude towards us 
>>>>> "yachties"  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Either it's black or white with them...competent or maliciously 
>>>>> incompetent.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1981 40-2.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

Yes. As I said, license to learn. 

"Each of these vessels must keep out of the way of the next vessel. For 
example, a sailboat must keep out of the way of a vessel engaged in fishing, 
which in turn must keep out of the way of a vessel with restricted 
maneuverability. And everyone must keep out of the way of a vessel not under 
command."
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> On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Failure to really know and UNDERSTAND the colregs is why boats hit boats. 
> Congratulations on your license, but you may still have some larnin' to do, 
> son. Colregs depend on everyone knowing and doing what is expected, but 
> allows for those who don't. A stand on vessel that gives way is screwing up 
> the system. Being unpredictable is not what a licensed captain ever wants to 
> be. Many on this list have had licenses at levels from 6-pack up to 100 ton 
> Masters for years and decades. :-) 
> 
> Bill Bina
> 
>> On 7/18/2017 3:45 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote:
>> This is why boats hit boats. Sorry I mentioned it. Me personally, with 
>> license sitting in the desk at home, I would give way to a vessel with gear 
>> down and dragging a net. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> See also Rule 2, and Rule 13. There is no such thing as "right of way" 
>>> except for one specific instance in the inland rules. The fishing vessel 
>>> was in the wrong in this case as described. :-)
>>> 
>>> Bill Bina
>>> 
>>>> On 7/18/2017 3:19 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote:
>>>> Vessel engaged in Fishing is restricted in her ability to move and has the 
>>>> right away over sailing vessel. 
>>>> Yeah, just got the 6 pack license. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 2:07 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We were powered up on a broad reach with a chute heading eastward down 
>>>>> LIS doing about 9 knots with just Lady Di and I.  Clear  September 
>>>>> weekday so empty waters.  And a rare morning sail with great wind from 
>>>>> the right direction. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fishing dragger with stabilizers down is slowing bearing down on us from 
>>>>> astern.   30 minutes later and he would have run right up our transom if 
>>>>> I did not alter course and risk a roundup in the process 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Prick was on bridge.  Wouldnt answer radio.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some of those commercial guys just have a bad attitude towards us 
>>>>> "yachties"  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Either it's black or white with them...competent or maliciously 
>>>>> incompetent.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1981 40-2.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

This is why boats hit boats. Sorry I mentioned it. Me personally, with license 
sitting in the desk at home, I would give way to a vessel with gear down and 
dragging a net. 

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> On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> See also Rule 2, and Rule 13. There is no such thing as "right of way" except 
> for one   specific instance in the inland rules. The fishing vessel 
> was in the wrong in this case as described. :-)
> 
> Bill Bina
> 
>> On 7/18/2017 3:19 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote:
>> Vessel engaged in Fishing is restricted in her ability to move and has the 
>> right away over sailing vessel. 
>> Yeah, just got the 6 pack license. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 2:07 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> We were powered up on a broad reach with a chute heading eastward down LIS 
>>> doing about 9 knots with just   Lady Di and I.  Clear  
>>> September weekday so empty waters.  And a rare morning sail with great wind 
>>> from the right direction. 
>>> 
>>> Fishing dragger with stabilizers down is slowing bearing down on us from 
>>> astern.   30 minutes later and he would have run right up our transom if I 
>>> did not alter course and risk a roundup in the process 
>>> 
>>> Prick was on bridge.  Wouldnt answer radio.  
>>> 
>>> Some of those commercial guys just have a bad attitude   
>>> towards us "yachties"  
>>> 
>>> Either it's black or white with them...competent or maliciously 
>>> incompetent.  
>>> 
>>> 1981 40-2.  
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

Correct. This guy had stabilizers out and dragging a net. 

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> On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> "Fishing" means a commercial vessel dragging gear, not some guy trolling.
> 
> Joel
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 3:19 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> Vessel engaged in Fishing is restricted in her ability to move and has the 
>> right away over sailing vessel. 
>> Yeah, just got the 6 pack license. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 2:07 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We were powered up on a broad reach with a chute heading eastward down LIS 
>>> doing about 9 knots with just Lady Di and I.  Clear  September weekday so 
>>> empty waters.  And a rare morning sail with great wind from the right 
>>> direction. 
>>> 
>>> Fishing dragger with stabilizers down is slowing bearing down on us from 
>>> astern.   30 minutes later and he would have run right up our transom if I 
>>> did not alter course and risk a roundup in the process 
>>> 
>>> Prick was on bridge.  Wouldnt answer radio.  
>>> 
>>> Some of those commercial guys just have a bad attitude towards us 
>>> "yachties"  
>>> 
>>> Either it's black or white with them...competent or maliciously 
>>> incompetent.  
>>> 
>>> 1981 40-2.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>>> Date: 7/18/17 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>>> To: Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>>> Cc: Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com> 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road 
>>> 
>>> when we were on our 22 foot sailboat we got swamped by a bis a$$ powers 
>>> boat's wake because he couldn't be bother to give us any room and passed 
>>> us about 20 feet off our bow throwing a 4' wake. Then they had the nerve 
>>> to wave...  My wife waved back with 1 finger while hanging off the 
>>> shrouds.  That wake came up over the bow and right down the companionway...
>>> 
>>> Last summer, I was watching this sail boat flying a spinnaker closing on 
>>> us from the stern to port.  We were running wing and wing doing about 4 
>>> knots in a light breeze.  Now, I watched them for at least 40 minutes, 
>>> when I first saw them they could simply have changed their course by one 
>>> degree and came well aft. instead, they close within shouting distance 
>>> and the lady on the helm yells over, "can you give us some room?"  I 
>>> shouted back, "what do you want me to do?"  she replies, "head up!"  
>>> Upon which two other crew members seemed to say something to her and 
>>> they dropped the sock over the spin, came across my stern and opened the 
>>> little spin back up.  I assumed the stand on position of being the 
>>> overtaken vessel and knew it was their job to get around me. I could not 
>>> figure out what they were doing and decided the best thing i could do 
>>> was stand on.  Luckily it worked out!
>>> 
>>> Danny
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/18/2017 12:59 PM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List wrote:
>>> > Glad you were able get away without any damages... I have had a few of 
>>> > these here in Chesapeake. Once the "captain" of the power boat actually 
>>> > turned around and yelled at me for not changing course...
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > AR
>>> >
>>> >> On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:32 AM, robert via CnC-List 
>>> >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Yesterday afternoon, having a pleasant sail in Halifax harbor, 5.5 
>>> >> knots, starboard tack with a 25' to 30' cape island power boat 
>>> >> approaching at about the same speed on my port side.
>>> >>
>>> >> As we approached each other, I was judging distance and time and it 
>>> >> became clear we were on a collision course.  Since I was under sail and 
>>> >> he was a leisure boat, not commercial, under power I assumed he would 
>>> >> give way..maybe slow his speed and let me cross in front of him o

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

Vessel engaged in Fishing is restricted in her ability to move and has the 
right away over sailing vessel. 
Yeah, just got the 6 pack license. 

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> On Jul 18, 2017, at 2:07 PM, David via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> We were powered up on a broad reach with a chute heading eastward down LIS 
> doing about 9 knots with just Lady Di and I.  Clear  September weekday so 
> empty waters.  And a rare morning sail with great wind from the right 
> direction. 
> 
> Fishing dragger with stabilizers down is slowing bearing down on us from 
> astern.   30 minutes later and he would have run right up our transom if I 
> did not alter course and risk a roundup in the process 
> 
> Prick was on bridge.  Wouldnt answer radio.  
> 
> Some of those commercial guys just have a bad attitude towards us "yachties"  
> 
> Either it's black or white with them...competent or maliciously incompetent.  
> 
> 1981 40-2.  
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
> Date: 7/18/17 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List  
> Cc: Danny Haughey  
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road 
> 
> when we were on our 22 foot sailboat we got swamped by a bis a$$ powers 
> boat's wake because he couldn't be bother to give us any room and passed 
> us about 20 feet off our bow throwing a 4' wake. Then they had the nerve 
> to wave...  My wife waved back with 1 finger while hanging off the 
> shrouds.  That wake came up over the bow and right down the companionway...
> 
> Last summer, I was watching this sail boat flying a spinnaker closing on 
> us from the stern to port.  We were running wing and wing doing about 4 
> knots in a light breeze.  Now, I watched them for at least 40 minutes, 
> when I first saw them they could simply have changed their course by one 
> degree and came well aft. instead, they close within shouting distance 
> and the lady on the helm yells over, "can you give us some room?"  I 
> shouted back, "what do you want me to do?"  she replies, "head up!"  
> Upon which two other crew members seemed to say something to her and 
> they dropped the sock over the spin, came across my stern and opened the 
> little spin back up.  I assumed the stand on position of being the 
> overtaken vessel and knew it was their job to get around me. I could not 
> figure out what they were doing and decided the best thing i could do 
> was stand on.  Luckily it worked out!
> 
> Danny
> 
> 
> On 7/18/2017 12:59 PM, Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List wrote:
> > Glad you were able get away without any damages... I have had a few of 
> > these here in Chesapeake. Once the "captain" of the power boat actually 
> > turned around and yelled at me for not changing course...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > AR
> >
> >> On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:32 AM, robert via CnC-List  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yesterday afternoon, having a pleasant sail in Halifax harbor, 5.5 knots, 
> >> starboard tack with a 25' to 30' cape island power boat approaching at 
> >> about the same speed on my port side.
> >>
> >> As we approached each other, I was judging distance and time and it became 
> >> clear we were on a collision course.  Since I was under sail and he was a 
> >> leisure boat, not commercial, under power I assumed he would give 
> >> way..maybe slow his speed and let me cross in front of him or he would 
> >> duck behind me.
> >>
> >> Not happeningI could see him looking right at me so it was not a case 
> >> where he didn't, couldn't see me.at the last moment when I realized he 
> >> wasn't going to give me right of way,  I 'crashed tacked'..I didn't 
> >> even have time to release the jib...just spun around 180 degrees and 
> >> he passed approx. 3' from my transom. There were two people sitting in 
> >> chairs on his back deck that saw me and looked bewildered wondering why I 
> >> was so close to them.
> >>
> >> He didn't slow down, didn't alter his course, didn't acknowledge me in any 
> >> way.   If I had not turned, we would have collided..given my judgement 
> >> of the situation, he would have T-boned me about mid ship, port side at 5 
> >> to 6 knots.
> >>
> >> I will be more careful in the future..this was way too close and 
> >> totally unnecessary.
> >>
> >> Rob Abbott
> >> AZURA
> >> C 32 - 84
> >> Halifax, N.S.
> >>
> >>
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Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

You were absolutely the stand on vessel. 
You also had(have )the responsibility to avoid collision. You also have the 
right to yell, "HEY F-CKTARD" BUY A BOOK" as he passes your stern. Just sayin'.

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> On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:51 AM, detroito91 via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Common sense overcomes pure stupidly and lack of knowledge. 
> Jim Schwartz 
> SEA YA!
> 38 LF
> Washington nc 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> 
>  Original message 
> From: robert via CnC-List 
> Date: 7/18/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: robert 
> Subject: Stus-List Rules of the Road
> 
> Yesterday afternoon, having a pleasant sail in Halifax harbor, 5.5 
> knots, starboard tack with a 25' to 30' cape island power boat 
> approaching at about the same speed on my port side.
> 
> As we approached each other, I was judging distance and time and it 
> became clear we were on a collision course.  Since I was under sail and 
> he was a leisure boat, not commercial, under power I assumed he would 
> give way..maybe slow his speed and let me cross in front of him or 
> he would duck behind me.
> 
> Not happeningI could see him looking right at me so it was not a 
> case where he didn't, couldn't see me.at the last moment when I 
> realized he wasn't going to give me right of way,  I 'crashed 
> tacked'..I didn't even have time to release the jib...just spun 
> around 180 degrees and he passed approx. 3' from my transom. There were 
> two people sitting in chairs on his back deck that saw me and looked 
> bewildered wondering why I was so close to them.
> 
> He didn't slow down, didn't alter his course, didn't acknowledge me in 
> any way.   If I had not turned, we would have collided..given my 
> judgement of the situation, he would have T-boned me about mid ship, 
> port side at 5 to 6 knots.
> 
> I will be more careful in the future..this was way too close and 
> totally unnecessary.
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
> 
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Re: Stus-List Reminder -- C 2017 Northeast Rendezvous -- Sept. 8-10, 2017 -- Greenport, Long Island

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

I'm booked!

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> On Jun 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> With summer officially beginning this evening, and on behalf of Rob Gallagher 
> (C 30 Mk II; Hanuman), David Risch (C 40; Corsair) and Don Sweeney (C 
> 36; Harbor Lights), I would like to invite you to attend our 2017 C 
> Northeast Rendezvous; September 8-10, 2017 in Greenport. 
> 
> Some of the highlights include pot luck group dinners, informal tours of 
> C, exploring Greenport, cigars, cocktails and more cocktails. Did I 
> mention drinks? 
> 
> We have dock space reserved at Mitchell Park Marina, located within a 
> four-acre park at the center of Greenport Village. A few steps away are 
> boutiques, shops, grocery stores, pubs, ice cream parlors, coffee bars, and 
> several highly-rated restaurants. You can even ferry (or dinghy) across the 
> river to beautiful Shelter Island — something for everyone! 
> 
> There are already six C’s scheduled to attend with three months to go — and 
> there’s plenty of room for more to join in on what’s shaping up to be our 
> best Northeast Rendezvous yet! 
> 
> And, seriously, when was the last time you had a rendezvous with its own 
> “Movie Trailer”? (Go full screen and crank the volume — trust me) — 
> https://youtu.be/M8yBSXuHPaQ 
> 
> Website with Online Registration: cncnortheast.com (please sign up there to 
> take advantage of our group rate and all the freebie goodies from our 
> sponsors.)
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
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Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

I have a wood panel that removes easily with a turn of a latch. Comes up to 
Within  6" of the cockpit sole. 


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> On Jun 7, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Tim Sippel via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a 33-2  my original idea was to buy a automotive cargo net and put it 
> place to keep things in place.
> Never got around to it , I simply put the hatch board in place to prevent 
> things from spilling .
>  
>  
>  
> Tim Sippel
>  
> C 33mkii   Matico
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Paxton via CnC-List
> Sent: June 7, 2017 11:58 AM
> To: C List 
> Cc: Kevin Paxton 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Separation between locker and engine 33-2
>  
> I have this exact same issue just on a 34. I'd also like to find some way to 
> separate the lazarette from the engine bay. I luckily have not had anything 
> fall in there before, but I'm terrified of when it will happen. I'm 
> definitely interested in suggestions from others.
>  
>  
> Kevin Paxton
> '82 34 #473
> Japhys Spirit
> Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD
>  
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:50 AM doug.welch--- via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> I have no separation between my cockpit locker and the shaft and engine other 
> than a short piece of glasses wood that is about a foot high.  This really 
> limits the usefulness of the locker.  I had a dinghy paddle bounce into the 
> shaft that caused my some brief trying to determine where the burning plastic 
> smell was coming from. I assumed it was an impeller (every once in a while 
> the sound of hooves are zebras 鸞). I checked a friend's 29-2 and it has a 
> nice removable panel that looks original. My current plan is to fabricate a 
> removable separator from wire shelving but would like to get the group's 
> suggestions on other options. 
>  
> Cheers Doug
> Celtic Knot 33-2 c/b
> Frenchman's Bay
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Re: Stus-List Cutlass bearing

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

If you're pulling the prop shaft it's fairly easy. Hack saw through the brass 
liner then bend it in and peel it away from strut. Strut pros work perfectly on 
brand new struts and cutlass bearings. Watch the video. Otherwise they are 
finicky. But work. They need to be perfectly seated to work smoothly. 
Jp

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> On May 31, 2017, at 2:37 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> The yard I go to used a hydraulic press to remove it.  Came out like it was 
> greased.  I don't remember whether it had a set screw on top of another set 
> screw. to hold it in place.
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
> 
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi 
>> 
>> Has anybody replaced their cutlass bearing on a C 35mk3?
>> I, tried to remove it with the shaft in place, but the tool I borrowed
>> did not work.
>> Any info would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Gerry Fennessey
>> Fianna C 35 MK3 
>> 
>> Gerald Fennessey
>> gfennes...@verizon.net
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Re: Stus-List Fire aboard

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I lost a previous boat to a fire. Ours was more of a get-off-now kinda fire. 
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> On Dec 6, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I recall a discussion a while back on the list about having fire blankets on 
> board.  At the time, I looked up a few fire blankets online, and I planned on 
> getting one or two. After reading about yesterday’s Vendee Globe fire, I’m 
> getting a few fire blankets today.
> 
> 
> Be sure to watch the video after you have read about the fire.
> 
> http://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/news/16841/fire-aboard-conrad-colman-s-boat
> 
> 
> 
> -
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> 1981 C 38 Landfall 
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Carrabelle, FL
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Re: Stus-List Fire aboard

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> On Dec 6, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I recall a discussion a while back on the list about having fire blankets on 
> board.  At the time, I looked up a few fire blankets online, and I planned on 
> getting one or two. After reading about yesterday’s Vendee Globe fire, I’m 
> getting a few fire blankets today.
> 
> 
> Be sure to watch the video after you have read about the fire.
> 
> http://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/news/16841/fire-aboard-conrad-colman-s-boat
> 
> 
> 
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> 1981 C 38 Landfall 
> S/V Johanna Rose
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Re: Stus-List Cabin LED lights

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Sitting at a electrical supply desk waiting for some stuff reading this thread. 
Said, uh Hey you got any of this led tape...?  Bought 8'. For the 
galley. 

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> On Aug 29, 2016, at 5:23 AM, Syerdave--- via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Have installed these over galley- major improvement.
> http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p=70322=2,40731=1
> 
> And am experimenting with adapting various versions of these for other areas. 
>  No night vision option unfortunately.
> http://www.dalslighting.com/en/product-category/accent+lighting/1/led-products
> Dave 33-2
> 
> 
> 
> : Sun, 28 Aug 2016 18:15:07 -0400
> From: Jerome Tauber 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Cabin LED lights
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> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
> 
> Has anyone replaced the old square plastic C cabin dome lights with LED?   
> Any suggestions for easy replacement (Entire unit not bulb)?  Thanks. Jerry. 
> C 27 mkv.  J  
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Re: Stus-List Solvent for Silicone

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I haven't tried it but I saved this info from the list.  " McKanica Silicon 
calk remover"

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> On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:51 PM, RANDY via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Listers-
> 
> My exterior handrail replacement project is underway - began removing the 
> handrails today.  The bases of the exterior handrails were bedded to the 
> cabintop gelcoat with what appears to be some kind of silicone-like 
> substance.  Can anybody recommend a good solvent for that stuff?  I tried 
> goo-gone and it wouldn't dissolve the stuff.  Want to get that gelcoat clean 
> before bedding the bases of the new handrails.
> 
> Thanks in Advance,
> Randy
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Re: Stus-List Removing Polyglow

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I followed this regimen on our previous boat. Long, arduous, back breaking 
work. But the results were amazing. 


http://www.sailnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52772



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> On May 18, 2016, at 11:51 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Some people like buffing and waxing. I don't. PoliGlow works just fine for 
> me. 
> 
> http://members.shaw.ca/ptarmiganshift/images/IMG_0863.jpg
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
>> On 18 May 2016 at 18:45, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> I really think that the answer lies in how bad your gel coat is.  If it us a 
>> dark or colored hull that is chalked then you will probably like the results 
>> of polyglow.  If its a white hull that has been maintained or is new enough 
>> that it hasn't chalked then buffing and waxing will keep it looking good.
>> 
>> I buff and wax.  Almost 30 years old.  Take a look at the results.
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yRHJmRThKbl9aN0U
>> 
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, May 18, 2016, 5:25 PM ahycrace--- via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> So bottom line is poly Glow good or not so much?  Friend of mine has a 
>>> badly chalked Santana and received for free an almost full kit of Polyglow 
>>> he asked me if it was worth using.
>>> 
>>> Gary Kolc
>>>  Joseph Bognar via CnC-List  wrote:
>>> > I found that if your fenders rub the hull in the same spot . It will wear 
>>> > the Polyglow off.
>>> >
>>> > Sent from Joe Bognar
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
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Re: Stus-List Selling The Office

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Will do. Nyack is just south of Croton Point. We're just north. I'm sure we'll 
see her. Thx
JP
914 494 3618

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> On May 7, 2016, at 9:15 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
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> It will be in Nyack. Keep an eye out for her!
> 
>> On Saturday, May 7, 2016, JP Mail via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> The Hudson sounds good. We'll be moving Hideaway from RI to the Hudson soon. 
>> I wonder if the Office will be near us.
>> JP
>> 
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>> > On May 6, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>> > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>> > Tomorrow I am selling The Office. (I'm doing the A2B on the Hylas).
>> >
>> > We all know the saying about the 2 happiest days in a boat owner's life.  
>> > For me, its not true.
>> >
>> > First, I want to thank everyone who has provided advise, support and 
>> > friendship.  You are an amazing group of giving, non-judgmental and 
>> > knowledgeable sailors, marine electricians, mechanics and boat owners!  
>> > Thank you!  Second, like Danny, Tim and others, I plan to stick around.
>> >
>> > I went from being a guy who sails to a sailor while owning The Office.  
>> > Annapolis to Bermuda, Annapolis Newport, hundreds of day sails etc.  I 
>> > learned a tremendous amount about boat systems - with your help.  I've 
>> > made friends here and raced with some of you.
>> >
>> > The new owner will be moving the boat to the Hudson.  I'm confident he 
>> > will take good care of her, and I may even get to race on her 
>> > occasionally. Still, its tough to let her go.
>> >
>> > --
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>> > 35/3
>> > The Office
>> > Annapolis
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Re: Stus-List 86' C MKIII Window options

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I'll be driving up to the boat on Sunday. I'll take pics and post somewhere. 
I'll post location.
J

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> On Apr 26, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Sam Wheeler via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> JP, do you have photos?  I'm planning on redoing the windows on my 35-3 at 
> some point.  I doubt I'll go the custom frame route, but curious to see how 
> it looks.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sam
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 3:26 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> Recently purchased a 35-3. The PO had stainless steel frames made for the 
>> outside after he replaced the windows. Dead sexy.
>> J
>> 
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>> > On Apr 19, 2016, at 3:11 PM, CHRIS HOBSON via CnC-List 
>> > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Still eyeballing an 86’ MKIII for sale and contemplating possible cosmetic 
>> > upgrades if I were to purchase. Not a big fan of the single pane plexi 
>> > window wondering if I can make it two panes like a few years earlier 
>> > before they changed it. Would be great if I could get some trim that goes 
>> > around each pane to make the appearance a bit cleaner. Found a website 
>> > that sells the plexi, just curious if anyone has done this.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
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Re: Stus-List 86' C MKIII Window options

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Recently purchased a 35-3. The PO had stainless steel frames made for the 
outside after he replaced the windows. Dead sexy. 
J

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> On Apr 19, 2016, at 3:11 PM, CHRIS HOBSON via CnC-List 
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> Hi,
> 
> Still eyeballing an 86’ MKIII for sale and contemplating possible cosmetic 
> upgrades if I were to purchase. Not a big fan of the single pane plexi window 
> wondering if I can make it two panes like a few years earlier before they 
> changed it. Would be great if I could get some trim that goes around each 
> pane to make the appearance a bit cleaner. Found a website that sells the 
> plexi, just curious if anyone has done this.
> 
> Cheers,
> Chris
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List hoses

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And don't worry about igniting diesel. You can put a match out in it.
J

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> On Apr 19, 2016, at 5:03 PM, mike amirault via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
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> The fuel filler hose most likely does have a metal spiral inside. I got mine 
> off by cutting along the edge of the metal spiral and ripping it out a bit at 
> a time. Messy, but doable.
> You should be able to find fuel quality hose at most any marine supply store.
>  
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> C Lovely Cruise
> SMSC N.S.
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Re: Stus-List C 26 and 35 parts

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Called him 3 hours ago. 

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> On Mar 11, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
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> 
> And stanchion bases
> 
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> Somebody should grab the toerails!
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Mark G via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> C 35 parts...
>>> http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/boa/5485675266.html
>>> (I believe it's this guy http://www.massmarineparts.com/index.aspx )
>>> C 26 parts...
>>> http://providence.craigslist.org/bpo/5449947232.html
>>> No affiliation to either one, I'm just local and saw the ads.
>>> Mark
>>> '73 C 25 Mk 1
>>> Mattapoisett, MA
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Re: Stus-List best folding prop for 30 MK1 w/ A4

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I'm sittin' on a maxprop 2 blade 13" 1" shaft prop right now.
Came from a Nicholson 303. Works great, looks great. Pics if you want them.
J

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> On Mar 7, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Joe at Zialater via CnC-List 
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> I received the blessing from the Admiral to equip Zia with a folding prop
> this season.  I have been looking at our options and the Gori 2 blade geared
> prop 11.5 X 8 looks like it would do the job.
> 
> Before I pull the trigger on this,  I would like to check with the list for
> opinions/experiences on brands, model etc.  
> 
> Currently we have a 2 blade fixed.
> 
> Thanks a million.
> 
> Joe
> Zia
> 30 MK1
> Annapolis
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Re: Stus-List 35-3 chain plate removal

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Wow. Let's see... How much lighter will my boat be with titanium? 
That's amazing that titanium is cheaper. And sexier. 
First price I got was crazy high. But then I realized it was Canadian not USD. 

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> On Feb 25, 2016, at 6:30 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Jon,
> 
> I suspect that some may think I’m getting a bit carried away with this 
> suggestion but you may want to try having titanium chainplates fabricated.
> 
> Now, before you say I’m plugging high dollar options, there’s a very good 
> article in the latest Professional Boatbuilder (Number 159, February/March) 
> about chainplate failures. The article as has a side-bar about stainless 
> steel versus titanium replacements and the associated costs. Rather than go 
> through all of it, the author priced out the two options for a Whitby 42, 
> larger than our boats. 
> 
> The total cost for the S.S. chainplates plus fasteners was $347.20. The cost 
> for polished Grade 5 titanium, with fasteners, was 307.55.
> 
> Food for thought. I know which way I would go…
> 
> Best,
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Replacements are probably what's coming. We were offered aluminum or 
>> stainless. Stainless being a "cheaper" option. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Feb 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jon,
>>> 
>>> The cover plates on my 35-3 are through bolted to the deck.  Getting access
>>> is a bit of pain, but it's doable.  The bolts at the bottom end of the chain
>>> plate are pretty straight forward (and numerous).  Not sure if this is a
>>> good candidate for welding.  I would consider new replacements instead.
>>> 
>>> Jake
>>> 
>>> Jake Brodersen
>>> C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress"
>>> Hampton VA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of JP Mail
>>> via CnC-List
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 14:09
>>> To: Stu <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> Cc: JP Mail <jon.peterpr...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Stus-List 35-3 chainplate removal
>>> 
>>> Looking for any experiences with repairing/replacing a chainplate or 2 on a
>>> 35-3 I'm showing a hairline crack about 3/4" on the weld that attaches the
>>> flange to the chainplate at deck level. 
>>> Replace them both?
>>> Remove, grind, reweld and replace?
>>> Is it fairly straight forward job of removing the nuts and bolts from
>>> chainplate at the bulkhead below, remove the 4 screws on the flange on deck
>>> and lift?
>>> Hopefully only butyl tape and not 5200 between deck and flange. 
>>> Safe to leave the mast standing tied off while chainplate out? 
>>> All input and opinions welcome. 
>>> Jon. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List Cushions smell

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I just washed on gentle in a front load washer, 24 covers. With tide. Hung to 
dry. Smell great! Wife looked at me a little funny with all the covers hanging 
all over the place. Front load dryers spin faster than top load so drying time 
was short. 

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> On Feb 25, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
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> Baking soda and pet and toddler odor remover. Just went through the same 
> thing on a delivery and found a couple of products on the market. The pet 
> odor stuff we found at Walmart and it really did the trick, actually got rid 
> of rather than masked the smell.
> 
> Andy
> C 40
> Peregrine
> 
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> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI 
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>> On Feb 25, 2016, at 18:44, TOM VINCENT via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have an odor of diesel in all of my cushions. It is not a strong smell, 
>> when you first go below it is more revelent - after you are there for awhile 
>> it is not as bad. If anyone has had a similar problem and solved the issue, 
>> I would love to know how. Obviously, a total replacement would work. The 
>> Admiral refuses to sleep on the boat because of the odor. I have taken the 
>> cushions off for the winter and steam cleaned one and sprayed it with 
>> Fabreeze, not much different.
>>  
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>> Frolic II C 36 cb
>> Chesapeake City, MD 
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Re: Stus-List 35-3 chain plate removal

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Replacements are probably what's coming. We were offered aluminum or stainless. 
Stainless being a "cheaper" option. 

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> On Feb 24, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Jon,
> 
> The cover plates on my 35-3 are through bolted to the deck.  Getting access
> is a bit of pain, but it's doable.  The bolts at the bottom end of the chain
> plate are pretty straight forward (and numerous).  Not sure if this is a
> good candidate for welding.  I would consider new replacements instead.
> 
> Jake
> 
> Jake Brodersen
> C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress"
> Hampton VA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of JP Mail
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 14:09
> To: Stu <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: JP Mail <jon.peterpr...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Stus-List 35-3 chainplate removal
> 
> Looking for any experiences with repairing/replacing a chainplate or 2 on a
> 35-3 I'm showing a hairline crack about 3/4" on the weld that attaches the
> flange to the chainplate at deck level. 
> Replace them both?
> Remove, grind, reweld and replace?
> Is it fairly straight forward job of removing the nuts and bolts from
> chainplate at the bulkhead below, remove the 4 screws on the flange on deck
> and lift?
> Hopefully only butyl tape and not 5200 between deck and flange. 
> Safe to leave the mast standing tied off while chainplate out? 
> All input and opinions welcome. 
> Jon. 
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Stus-List 35-3 chainplate removal

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Looking for any experiences with repairing/replacing a chainplate or 2 on a 35-3
I'm showing a hairline crack about 3/4" on the weld that attaches the flange to 
the chainplate at deck level. 
Replace them both?
Remove, grind, reweld and replace?
Is it fairly straight forward job of removing the nuts and bolts from 
chainplate at the bulkhead below, remove the 4 screws on the flange on deck and 
lift?
 Hopefully only butyl tape and not 5200 between deck and flange. 
Safe to leave the mast standing tied off while chainplate out? 
All input and opinions welcome. 
Jon. 

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Re: Stus-List Article from "The Yacht" magazine sept/oct 1985

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> On Nov 19, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
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> If you can scan it to a PDF you could send it to Stu and he can post it on 
> the website. 
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> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
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Yes, thanks. That's exactly what Stu said. It's in the works. Thx
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Stus-List Article from "The Yacht" magazine sept/oct 1985

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Found a 7 page article titled, C the Committee and the Corporate Boat. 
Interesting to me as I'm buying an '84. Any interest in me posting and if so 
what is the best way?


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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows - welcome

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Me too. She's an '84 35mk3. Though not perfect, appears to be very well cared 
for and well outfitted. Has new port lights, recent rod rigging, fuel tank and 
rebuild of 3gm. Interesting thing about window refit is a ss frame around them. 
Haven't seen that in my research before. Things I need peace of mind with is 
hull integrity and hull/deck joint. There is also a bead of silicone along toe 
rail. This raises an eyebrow.  I know a 30 year old boat will have issues but 
there are issues I can deal with and others I don't have the time or energy to 
deal with.  I've done the soda blast and hull surface restore before and can do 
it again, but I don't want to face recoring. After a year search I'm settled on 
a C though. Hence joining the list.  I think the 35 mk 3 hits all the buttons 
for me. 
Jon.
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> On Nov 7, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
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> Welcome to the list.  Hope the survey goes well.
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> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 11:52 AM, JP Mail via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> Just joined the list, minutes ago. Hopefully a new C owner after the 
>> survey in 10 days. Enjoyed the boat works video. Noticed the the East 
>> Greenwich RI tag after Gary's name. That is where the survey will take 
>> place. Small world. Sorry for the hijack. 
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>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That boatworks guy has some great videos. Thanks for the link!
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> Suhana, C 32
>>> Toronto
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>> Fred,
>>>>  Please note that the 3M VHB tape is available in black, eliminating 
>>>> (I think) the need for Fusion Black paint.
>>>> Gary
>>>> S/V High Maintenance
>>>> 1990 C 37 Plus
>>>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>>> 
>>>> ~~~_/)~~
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>> There is a great BoatWorks video on Youtube describing the VHB tape 
>>>>> method.  See link below:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQyjxVUskd8
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> S/V High Maintenance
>>>>> 1999 C 37 Plus
>>>>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~~~_/)~~
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:51 AM, robert <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> Gary:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I sent you the process I used 'off list'.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The 2 forward windows on my boat are also curved.not exactly sure 
>>>>>> how much but it is noticeable.you can get a better idea when you 
>>>>>> take the old windows out and lay them on a flat surface.   I used Sika 
>>>>>> 295 UV with the Sika primer and I also wondered if this adhesive would 
>>>>>> hold the curved window(s) in place.  It's been 6 seasons and no problems.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Before installing the new windows, I wondered how I was going to 'brace 
>>>>>> them' while the Sika cured.  I explained all of that in my 'off list' 
>>>>>> email to you.  Any further questions, don't hesitate to ask.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rob Abbott
>>>>>> AZURA
>>>>>> C 32 - 84
>>>>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2015-10-21 11:07 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List wrote:
>>>>>>> Fred,
>>>>>>>  The VHB tape with DOW Corning 795 Silicone Sealant is starting to 
>>>>>>> look like and attractive method.  I am replacing the windows over the 
>>>>>>> winter, also.  We should keep in touch.  Do I assume you would use the 
>>>>>>> gray VHB tape with the gray silicone sealant?  I am wondering if the 
>>>>>>> VHB tape will be a problem with peel.  My cabin sides are curved, so 
>>>>>>> the windows will have to be bent