Stus-List Galley sink drain C 30 Mk1
Your configuration sounds exactly like that as I have seen on 2 other C 30 Mark 1. I believe that is stock configuration. Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: winter storage
It's really in the details.. How is boat is stored ? Stands ? Cradle ? Trailer? If stands, were they on gravel, grass, concrete, pads ? If a cradle or trailer How is it built ? Is the keel supported on the sides so it can't move sideways? If a trailer, does it have drop legs ? There are just under 100 boats stored at our marina for the winter. 99% are mast up, on trailers with the frame supported to reduce load on the axle and tires. Hasn't been an issue since the marina was built in the early 80s and we get strong prairie storms, winter and summer. A summer storm with plow winds went through years ago, and the boats that hadn't been launched yet were fine. On the opposite side... Last week a newbie from the coast was worried about staying at a marina that stores mast down, due to power lines Someone mentionthat a boat at nearby marina had their boat mast accidentally dropped onto the deck while getting being hauled for the winter... so now the newbies are scared to lower the mast due to risk of damage and perceived stress on the stick. They travelled 40 miles, to a different marina so they didn't have to lower the mast. 路 18 Oct 2023 9:19:32 am Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List : > Re mast up. A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a > winter storm. He now has no mast. > > With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat > from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in > three areas. The boat was on a cradle. Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Wet Vac
Wet vacs are great. Especially on a boat. I use a Rigid Brand 18v cordless one for the boat. Small and easily fits in a cockpit locker on our 30. Especially helpful this year when I was rewiring and the bilge pump wasn't connected. It's ability to also blow air, works great when winterizing the water system. Roy Minion, 30 mk 1 Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Gelcoat match supplier
I likely have the same colour boat. yellow 1978 30 Mark 1. I too would love to find a easy way to match-ish the gelcoat. I was wondering about using a mini paint scanner and converting the RGB output to gelcoat/paint data. It would obviously need to be adjusted manually by eye when applied to the hull. Roy Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Bed it Butyl Tape
Awhile back there was a list discussion on where to buy Bed-it Butyl Tape. As mentioned at that time, sailboatowners.com has worked with Rod to get it made again after Rod had a stroke. They now have it in stock and ships in 1 business day. 4 rolls for me and my marina buddies are inbound. I was getting worried that their stock would arrive in time for spring ! https://shop.sailboatowners.com/prod.php?55717 Cheers Roy Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: 30 MK I Mast Sheaves
Hi Randy, Good news.. I was just organizing my spring task lists and found the measurements in my notes. My boat is a 1978 30 Mark 1. Masthead Sheaves are for both wire and rope: Material: Aluminum with bronze bushing 7/16" I.D. (bolt/shaft hole not the bushing hole) 9/16" Wide x 3.5" diameter 5/16" wide outer/rope groove (approx) ? Inner wire groove size unknown Hope that helps. Roy Mar 16, 2023 8:51:12 a.m. Leeward Rail : > Randy,. > > Forgot to mention. The original C masthead sheaves are aluminum with > bronze bushings. Basically bulletproof and superior to modern plastic ones. > > They likely just need cleaning and lubrication. > > That said, some people have concerns that the dual groove design causing > premature wear on rope. Best solution to that IMO is to take them to a > machine shop and have them re cut for rope only. Cheaper than buying new > ones, and you end up with a better quality result. > > Cheers, > Roy > > Mar 15, 2023 2:46:00 p.m. Randy Stafford via CnC-List : > >> Hello Listers, >> >> Does anyone happen to know the size (inner diameter, outer diameter, and >> thickness) of the original mast sheaves on a 30 MK I? I have hull #79, >> 1972. There are three at the masthead (two headsail, one mainsail), and >> three at the base. Does anyone know whether the masthead and mast base >> sheaves are the same size? >> >> The original sheaves were grooved for wire/rope halyards. I’m replacing my >> original halyards with all-rope Novabraid Argus, and will replace the >> sheaves to match. I’m preparing to order replacements from Garhauer and >> need to know the size. >> https://www.garhauermarine.com/shop/?_categories=mast-sheaves. >> >> Right now I don’t have access to the masthead, but I can remove one of the >> mast base sheaves to measure it. >> >> Thanks, >> Randy Stafford >> SV Grenadine >> C 30 MK I #79 >> Ken Caryl, CO Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: 30 MK I Mast Sheaves
Randy,. Forgot to mention. The original C masthead sheaves are aluminum with bronze bushings. Basically bulletproof and superior to modern plastic ones. They likely just need cleaning and lubrication. That said, some people have concerns that the dual groove design causing premature wear on rope. Best solution to that IMO is to take them to a machine shop and have them re cut for rope only. Cheaper than buying new ones, and you end up with a better quality result. Cheers, Roy Mar 15, 2023 2:46:00 p.m. Randy Stafford via CnC-List : > Hello Listers, > > Does anyone happen to know the size (inner diameter, outer diameter, and > thickness) of the original mast sheaves on a 30 MK I? I have hull #79, 1972. > There are three at the masthead (two headsail, one mainsail), and three at > the base. Does anyone know whether the masthead and mast base sheaves are > the same size? > > The original sheaves were grooved for wire/rope halyards. I’m replacing my > original halyards with all-rope Novabraid Argus, and will replace the sheaves > to match. I’m preparing to order replacements from Garhauer and need to know > the size. https://www.garhauermarine.com/shop/?_categories=mast-sheaves. > > Right now I don’t have access to the masthead, but I can remove one of the > mast base sheaves to measure it. > > Thanks, > Randy Stafford > SV Grenadine > C 30 MK I #79 > Ken Caryl, CO Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List 30 MK I Mast Sheaves
"The original sheaves were grooved for wire/rope halyards. I’m replacing my original halyards with all-rope Novabraid Argus," Randy, The original masthead sheaves on my 78 30 mk1, handle both wire AND rope. Same with the other C of the same age in our marina who switched to rope halyards over the years. The mast head sheaves have a dual groove design. The wire sits in a narrow slot at the bottom and the rope sits on top of that. The sheaves on the bottom are rope since the wire normally never reaches them. Unless the sheaves are in bad shape you likely don't need to replace them. Just attach the new rope to the old halyards and pull them through. All the boats around have spent their lives in fresh water so the sheaves were in good shape. Depending on your boat I would inspect them. Roy 78 C 30 Mark 1 Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
Stus-List Re: bed-it butyl tape source
Thanks Paul. I have ordered some and will compare it. Oct. 25, 2022 8:06:14 a.m. Dreuge via CnC-List : > I have purchased Dicor butyl tape from Amazon. I have been using it for > several years now, and this stuff is the real deal. See "Dicor BT-1834-1 > 1/8" x 3/4” > x 30' Butyl Seal Tape” for $11.86 Prime free delivery. > > Here is the link to Amazon: > https://www.amazon.com/Dicor-BT-1834-1-Butyl-Seal-Tape/dp/B001FCB4JS/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=butyl%2Btape=1666702413=eyJxc2MiOiI0Ljk1IiwicXNhIjoiNC4zNiIsInFzcCI6IjQuMTIifQ%3D%3D=buty%2Caps%2C92=8-3=1 > > > - > Paul E. > 1981 C Landfall 38 > S/V Johanna Rose > Fort Walton Beach, FL > > http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ > >> On Oct 25, 2022, at 8:05 AM, John Irvin via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2022, at 7:51 AM, schiller via CnC-List >>> wrote: >>> >>> If you can't get Bed-it. Try your local RV store for Dicor Butyl tape. >>> I have both and find them similar. >>> >>> Neil Schiller >>> 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace" >>> Whitehall, Michigan >>> >>> On 10/24/2022 11:16 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote: Still looking for a source for Bed-it butyl tape. Every one I check is sold out or out of stock. Has anyone bought some recently? Chuck S >
Stus-List Re: bed-it butyl tape source
Dicor Butyl tape... Thanks for the info! I may just try it, even though I will get Bed-It when available. Oct. 25, 2022 7:00:08 a.m. schiller via CnC-List : > If you can't get Bed-it. Try your local RV store for Dicor Butyl tape. I > have both and find them similar. > > Neil Schiller > 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace" > Whitehall, Michigan > > On 10/24/2022 11:16 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote: >> Still looking for a source for Bed-it butyl tape. Every one I check is sold >> out or out of stock. Has anyone bought some recently? >> >> Chuck S >
Stus-List Re: bed-it butyl tape source
Life safe butyl is not the same quality as bed it. windshield tape isn't the same idea as normal butyl which is meant to be formed into whatever shape you want. (at least when I installed windshields 4 or 5 years ago)
Stus-List bed-it butyl tape source
Bed-It Tape: Rod aka "Mainesail" is the guy who developed it along with another company. He survived a stroke last year. He closed down but is now it starting to have it made again. The factory he had custom making it is backlogged with other clients. A production run is in the queue. They expected to be shipping now, but that has been delayed. (I had an order in, but SBO recently sent an email and cancelled my order, and will notify me when they have a confirmed date) Full details here: https://forums.sailboatowners.com/threads/bed-it-tape-is-back.1249933598/?highlight=Bed%20it%20tape SBO Store will initially be the only place you can get it. Cheers, Roy C 30 Mk1 "Minion"
Stus-List CnC 30 mk 1 sink
Someone on a forum is asking about a source for a replacement galley for a1982 C 30. Any ideas where to find one that will fit reasonably well? They said that have been looking at a ton of bar sinks and have yet to find one that will fit. Thanks on behalf of another owner. Cheers Roy
Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I Keel Bolts
The fiberglass can compress of course. If you search for photos of keels being repaired, you will find photos of lead keels with the bolts being _rebedded_. MARSKEEL website is especially cool. Some of their staff worked for C They not only make new and repair old lead keels (both oem and custom) , they also make custom bulbs to reduce draft. I had some hope of doing that last year but unfortunately not an option for the stupid shark fin keel design.
Stus-List C 30 mk1 cockpit mounted throttle adjustment
Our 30 mk1 with engine controls on the cockpit side, has a throttle detent/notch you can feel as you push it forward. Anyone else have this? If so, what is the purpose? The cable is out of adjustment. I am going to adjust the cable and wonder if that detent is to meant to be "startup" position or what. I would assume if it is meant to be a start position that there is a recommended carb linkage position to match that detent at the throttle lever Cheers! Roy
Stus-List Re: C 35 MK I Keel Bolts
The keel bolts are in lead. Lead is soft and eventually they would pull upwards slightly. I would assume that is why. I have been planning to contact MARSKEEL and get some pro info.
Stus-List Re: Conduit Size for C 30 Mark 1 ?
Correct. In this case the LMR400U is 1/2" dia and has connectors already installed which are bigger. 2 runs of ultra low loss coax could end up being 1" alone.. Then all the other wiring on top of that. Aug. 19, 2022 8:01:12 a.m. Jeff Nelson via CnC-List : > The larger the conduit the more chance the cables will slap around inside it, > which will annoy you all night long. > > -- > Cheers, > Jeff Nelson > Muir Caileag > C 30 - 549 > Armdale Y.C. > > On 2022-08-19 09:32, Leeward Rail via CnC-List wrote: >> Vhf coax LMR400UF >> Cell booster antenna with coax of some unknown size... Likely some other >> large low loss cable like LMR400 >> Steaming light >> Anchor light >> Decklight. >> >> One day may have wind instruments >> >> Bigger is easier when fishing wire. >> >> Why undersize it when it costs virtually the same and takes the same effort? >> >> >> Aug. 19, 2022 7:14:47 a.m. Jeff Nelson via CnC-List : >> >>> I do not believe there are any obstructions. That said 1.5 inches seems >>> pretty big for 5 - 7 wires... >>> what all you got going on up there? >>> >>> -- Cheers, >>> Jeff Nelson >>> Muir Caileag >>> C 30 - 549 >>> Armdale Y.C. >>> >>> On 2022-08-18 14:17, leewardrail hotmail via CnC-List wrote: >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>> I am planning to install conduit in the mast of our 30 Mark 1. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately I am hours away from the boat, and need to buy the conduit >>>> >>>> Would 1.5" PVC Conduit fit ? Would 1.5" run without obstruction all the >>>> way to the masthead, or is there something at the spreader that would get >>>> in the way ? >>>> >>>> I prefer 1 1/2" 1 1/4" is about the minimum I would want to use. >>>> >>>> Thanks ! > > -- > Cheers, > Jeff Nelson > Muir Caileag > C 30 - 549 > Armdale Y.C.
Stus-List Re: Conduit Size for C 30 Mark 1 ?
Yup. That is the usual way. Using a self tapping screw is similar. Thanks! Aug. 19, 2022 8:21:18 a.m. CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List : > Video of mast conduit install: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avZHRIb7sJk > > C > On 08/19/2022 9:02 AM Nathan Post via CnC-List wrote: > > > If you have internal halyards then you will need to leave clearance at the > halyard exits (and near the top of the mast to make sure the halyards will > not chafe on the end of the conduit (good idea to smooth/round the top of the > conduit before you stick it in. Also the conduit has to fit past the > compression tubes where the stays attach. I think I used 1-1/2 in the back > to the top of the mast and 1-1/4 in the front to the spreaders when I did my > mast on my 34' With larger size coax and conductors it does fill up pretty > quick and the pop rivets I used leave a pin sticking into the conduit space > so it is a good idea to go larger if you can within reason. I am pretty sure > that more than 1-1/2 wouldn't have worked well with my internal halyards as > some of them exit toward the back of the mast. It can be a real challenge to > rivet it in place. I ended up having to drill two holes a few inches apart > along the mast next to each other and used a self tapping screw to > temporarily pull the conduit to the side of the mast before riveting the > other. Then remove the screw and put in a second rivet. > > Nathan > S/V Wisper > C 34
Stus-List Re: Conduit Size for C 30 Mark 1 ?
Awesome info Nathan. Yeah. 2 runs of coax with the connectors already installed will make it tight. LMR400 is already 1/2" I had not considered running 2 conduit up the mast. Hmm. I was hoping to run a single one at the front and drill holes into the conduit where the Steaming and deck light wiring holes are. Compression tubes are what I saw then! I vague remember seeing something up there when I was removing 8.5 feet of spray foam that some previous owner had put in from goose neck to maststep. (2 inch pipe with the end cut like a hole saw and a lot of struggle got it out) I am heading to marina today to see what is what and I figure I will just get the conduit on the next trip. Your method of conduit install should work better then making a hook and like riggers do. We shall see.
Stus-List Re: Conduit Size for C 30 Mark 1 ?
Vhf coax LMR400UF Cell booster antenna with coax of some unknown size... Likely some other large low loss cable like LMR400 Steaming light Anchor light Decklight. One day may have wind instruments Bigger is easier when fishing wire. Why undersize it when it costs virtually the same and takes the same effort? Aug. 19, 2022 7:14:47 a.m. Jeff Nelson via CnC-List : > I do not believe there are any obstructions. That said 1.5 inches seems > pretty big for 5 - 7 wires... > what all you got going on up there? > > -- > Cheers, > Jeff Nelson > Muir Caileag > C 30 - 549 > Armdale Y.C. > > On 2022-08-18 14:17, leewardrail hotmail via CnC-List wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> I am planning to install conduit in the mast of our 30 Mark 1. >> >> Unfortunately I am hours away from the boat, and need to buy the conduit >> >> Would 1.5" PVC Conduit fit ? Would 1.5" run without obstruction all the way >> to the masthead, or is there something at the spreader that would get in the >> way ? >> >> I prefer 1 1/2" 1 1/4" is about the minimum I would want to use. >> >> Thanks !
Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Bed-It butyl tape
Will do. I suspect demand will be high for the first while, which is why I pre-ordered. They don't bill until it ships regardless. They are a good outfit. They bought all the old Catalina parts when Catalina converted a warehouse to more production space. When they didn't have what I needed, they hunted it down for me. I wish they had C parts. Aug. 6, 2022 12:43:00 p.m. CHARLES SCHEAFFER : > Let me know when you get it. I'll order then. Thanks. > > Chuck > On 08/06/2022 10:27 AM Leeward Rail via CnC-List > wrote: > > > FWIW. The man who developed the Bed-It tape had a stoke last year and is > slowly getting going again, along with the help of the sailboatowners.com > > New shipments are going out this month. I ordered 2 rolls to make sure I > don't run out again. > > Other 'versions' that you can buy are not even close to the quality and > performance of Bed-It. I wasted money on a few. > > It is like comparing a Rolls Royce to a Ford Pinto.
Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Bed-It butyl tape
FWIW. The man who developed the Bed-It tape had a stoke last year and is slowly getting going again, along with the help of the sailboatowners.com New shipments are going out this month. I ordered 2 rolls to make sure I don't run out again. Other 'versions' that you can buy are not even close to the quality and performance of Bed-It. I wasted money on a few. It is like comparing a Rolls Royce to a Ford Pinto.
