Stus-List Re: No Traffic

[Pierre Tremblay via CnC-List]

Same here since before Aug 23th on Yahoo mail.

Pierre Tremblay

Avalanche #54988

C WK, hull #76
 

Le jeudi 7 septembre 2023 à 12 h 12 min 58 s HAE, Jeff Nelson via CnC-List 
 a écrit :  
 
 I've not seen an email on this list since Aug 29th.  Nothing in my spam 
foldersI'm guessing some new
GMail setting perhaps...anyone have any suggestions?

Cheers,
  Jeff Nelson
  Muir Caileag
  C 30 - 549
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Stus-List Re: C Rendezvous at Maritime Museum in Kingston?

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Love the idea. If done before end of Septembre, could also be a "On the water" 
rendez-vous for a lot of C in Kingston region, me being one of them.

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Le samedi 9 janvier 2021 10 h 40 min 07 s HNE, Robert Mazza via CnC-List 
 a écrit :  
 
 Thanks Dennis,
Yes, lots of elements to put together to make this the successful event it is 
destined to be. The primary question is who would organize it? I can coordinate 
the Marine Museum's involvement, but we will also need someone or a group to 
represent the C community. There used to be an annual C Regatta on Lake 
Ontario, so I suspect there will be great local response to this event. Initial 
response from the Kingston Yacht Club is positive, but a date will need to be 
chosen that blends with Kingston's busy sailing schedule that includes CORK 
specifically. Kingston also sits between the two popular Lake Ontaro cruising 
grounds of the Bay of Quinte and the Thousand Islands, so boats attending this 
rendezvous will have excellant options before and after. It would be great if 
people could drive or fly to this event if they can't come by boat.
Lots to think about, but well worth doing.
Rob



On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 8:58 AM Dennis C.,  wrote:

Rob
Nothing sacred about fall 2022.  Was just guessing the museum might have the 
exhibits ready by then.  If it pushes to spring 2023 or moves up to spring 
2022, no biggie.
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA
On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:32 PM Robert Mazza  wrote:

This is a very intriguing idea.  This rendezvous would best be arranged in 
conjunction with Kingston Yacht Club and Confederation Basin Marina to handle 
that number of boats. Fall of 2022 would be worth considering. Let me touch 
basis with KYC and the Marine Museum. Red Jacket will be there and the Marine 
Museum is planning to have a new exhibit focused on the transition from wood to 
fiberglass and the founding of C Yachts. Yes, this might work.
Rob Mazza



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Stus-List Re: C drawings at Kingston Maritime Museum

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Yes the link to your database would be nice.
Thanks,

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Stus-List Re: C drawings at Kingston Maritime Museum

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I cannot replicate your search for C 32. I only get 8 records all starting 
with 2001. What was your specific keyword?

Pierre Tremblay

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Le mardi 29 décembre 2020 22 h 36 min 58 s HNE, JohnKelly Cuthbertson via 
CnC-List  a écrit :  
 
  
And to show a bigger example of what can be found
 
The request was for info on C 32
 My search of the Databases ( 4 of them )
 
C 32 was Project #79-1
 
So the first project of 1979.  Drawing generated by C Design would be 
numbered 79-1-#.   There was no specific order as in 79-1-1 was sailplan or 
hull It would have just been the first drawing produced.
 
The Marine Museum  info says they have something specific with their number 
2008.0012.0041, Number of plans - 2 and they have not been digitized ( False )
 
 
|   | C 32 | 79-1 |   |   | 2008.0012.0041 (1-2) | 2 | FALSE |

 
  This record is a drawing " Curve of areas " which is in drawer 5-B-8
   
|   | C 32 |   |   |   | 2008.0012.0127 (1) | 1 | FALSE |   |   |   | C 32: 
Curve of Areas |   | 5-B-8 |

  
  searching for "79-1" 
   
| 2012.0010.0002.0002 | Sailplan (Obsolete - use 79-1-2 Feb 14/80) | Ink 
drawing of sailplan with corrections specified in pencil |   | C & C Collection 
(Tartan Yachts) | Apr-79 | 5-B-19 |

  
  Just cause somebody labelled it C #32, this didn't show up in the earlier 
search, but the search for 79-1 did
  
   
| 2009.0021.0052 | C Yacht Collection | C Yachts: Lines Drawing of 31.5 LOA 
Sloop for C Yachts Ltd. Drawing# 79-1-11, March 2, 1979, Scale 1:12, C #32. 
|   | C & C Collection | 02-Mar-79 |

   
| 2009.0021.0055 | C Yacht Collection | C Yachts: C/Board AND Ballast 
Detail Drawing 31.5 LOA Sloop for C Yachts Ltd, Drawing# 79-1-22 Design# 22, 
November 22, 1979, Scale 1:4 (3"=1' 0"). |   | C & C Collection | 22-Nov-79 |

  
  This does not mean they do not have more info on the C 32, for example they 
have a scrap books with multiple references to the C 32 
  
http://db.library.queensu.ca/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll?AC=NEXT_BLOCK=/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll=http%3A%2F%2Fdb.library.queensu.ca%2Fmarmus2%2Fmarmus.htm=MTemplate=AUTO21333=99=0=20=0=1000=1=1==Search+results-Pub=Main=Main=1=1=1=3==mymsg.ini==0==0=0=0=2=0=0=cecece=00=marmus=ISO-8859-1=ISO-8859-1
 
  
| 23 of 30 | 2001.066.0477. | DocPictorial | THE "C 32" SAIL DIMENSIONS | 
    | "C 32" |  View |
| 24 of 30 | 2001.066.0304. | Docarchival | SCRAPBOOK |     | "ABRAXUS"
 "ACADIA"
 "ADRIADNE"
 
 edited for clarity
 
 "C 27"
 "C 29"
 "C 30"
 "C 31"
 "C 32"
 "C 33"
 "C 34"
 "C 35"
 "C 36"
 "C 37"
 "C 38"
 "C 39"
 
 edited for clarity
  |  View |
| 25 of 30 | 2001.066.0305.0003 | Docarchival | SCRAPBOOK |     | "C 32" |  
View |
| 26 of 30 | 2001.066.0305.0048 | Docarchival | SCRAPBOOK |     | "MORNIG STAR"
 "WENDEN"
 "C 32" |  View |
| 27 of 30 | 2001.066.0305.0057 | Docarchival | SCRAPBOOK |     | "C 32" |  
View |
| 28 of 30 | 2001.066.0305.0065 | Docarchival | SCRAPBOOK |     | "C 25"
 "C 32" |  View |
| 29 of 30 | 2001.066.0305.0101 | Docarchival | SCRAPBOOK |     | "C 32"
 "C 34"
 "C 37"
 "C 40" |  View |
| 30 of 30 | 2001.066.0305.0104 | Docarchival | SCRAPBOOK |     | edited for 
clarity
 
 "SILVER SADDLE"
 "C 32"
 "C LANDFALL 43" |

 
  and I'm sure there is more out there. 
  Hope this helps 
  JohnKelly Cuthbertson
  
  
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Re: Stus-List Stuffing box leak rates

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Just for reference, 1 drop per second is 1.14 us gallon per day.
Regards,

Pierre Tremblay

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Re: Stus-List M-35 electrical fuel lift pump

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Hi all,
Lot of good info, as usual here.
I found the correct fuel pump (Facet #40106) in an aircraft online shop for $60 
Can (aircraftspruce.ca).
As for the filters, if one was clogged, I could not have restarted the engine 
and have it run for over an hour. I will change them anyway. I confess to not 
having touched them since I bought the boat (8 years). I have to reposition 
Racor and lift pump anyway, as the PO mechanic changed the location of the 
Racor to just under the exhaust hose, leaving no room to change the filter.
Thanks to all,

Pierre Tremblay

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Stus-List M-35 electrical fuel lift pump

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Hello all,
After suffering few fuel starving, I decided to have spare part for everything 
between fuel tank and engine fuel injection pump. Engine is a Universal M-35. 
RPM would slowly drop down then engine dies. I am able to start it back by just 
opening the fuel blead valve on the injection pump. It happened after 4 hours 
motoring in dead calm sea with a full tank, and the Racor glass is clear. I had 
no problem when the engine is cold. I suspect the fuel lift pump.
The electrical fuel lift pump I actually have is a CARTER 7H15A 504. Google 
cannot find it, and the only look alike from Carter is #P60504 or #P76438 
superseded by #P90091. Can someone tell me what you have for lift pump.
>From the spare fuel filter I have, primary (Racor 200FG) is 2 micron, and 
>secondary is 10 micron. I know it is wrong and I will go with 10 / 10. The 2 
>micron might also start to be dirty.
Good wind...

Pierre Tremblay

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C WK, hull #76
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Re: Stus-List Engine oil

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There is many flavor of Rotella. I use Rotella T6 10W40 in my Universal M4-30, 
and 0W40 in all my VW TDI (pre 2006).

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http://superb.kcmaps.com

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Stus-List Replace Beckson by Lewmar Standard

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Hello all,
Does someone has experience in replacing Beckson portlight with Lewmar standard?
Searching the list archive, I found a reference of an install on a C 1976.
According to the install instructions, the surface has to be flat within 1mm 
maximum. My cabin side has a curve of 6mm on the Size 2 portlight lenght. I'm 
sure the frame will follow the curve, but will the lens close thight with this 
frame deformation?
Regards,

Pierre Tremblay

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Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

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I also have the original Martec Eliptic on my 38-3. No vibration, hull speed at 
2400 RPM, and in reverse, you have to think ahead. 
To align the blade, I installed a cheap fleabay car backup camera connected to 
the video input of my chartplotter (Zeus Touch). With paint mark on the tranny 
and cuppling, easy to align. It also give me view on the engine, stuffing box 
and bilge when motoring for prolonged period.


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C WK, hull #76
 

Le ‎vendredi‎, ‎16‎ ‎février‎ ‎2018‎ ‎11‎:‎53‎:‎09‎ ‎Est, Gary Russell via 
CnC-List  a écrit :  
 
 I have to provide the dissenting opinion on the Martec prop.  Many years ago, 
I had to make a quick stop when two kids in a dinghy came out of a mooring 
field in front of me.  In order not to hit them I slammed the boat in reverse.  
Being not  geared, one of the blades did not open.  The resulting imbalance ( 
at full power) bent the shaft severely.  The resulting 1/2" run out created 
incredible vibration.  The shaft and prop had to be removed for repair.  I 
would never use a folding prop that isn't geared.  I currently use a 3 blade 
Flex-O-Fold prop which has very good reviews and I'm happy with it.
GaryS/V Kaylarah'90 C 37+East Greenwich, RI, USA
~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Dreuge via CnC-List  
wrote:


My LF38 came with a 2 blade Martec Eliptec (LH18DX14P-3 1-1/8), and I agree 
with others that the performance is surprising good.   Yes I often 
forget/neglect to align the blades, and I have experienced the boat shake on a 
rare occasions.  Performance wise, forward to hull speed is no problem in flat 
water, but like others, I cruise at about 6.5 with a lower rpm (Yanmar 
3QM30/Paragon/Walter-Vee).  With regards to backing/stopping, I have not hit 
anything (harder than willing) yet. I do get some starboard prop walk which I 
try to take advantage of, but it is nothing compared to the walk of my old 
29Mk1 w/ a fixed 2 bladed prop. 

-
Paul E.1981 C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL
http://svjohannarose.blogspot. com/

On Feb 15, 2018, at 10:32 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
My Martec runs very smoothly with a couple small harmonics at different
rpm's.  That's normal for nearly all drive trains.

Forward power is good.  I think my prop is a wee bit underpitched.  I can
get hull speed with a clean bottom and max rpm but only 6.4-6.5 at cruise
rpm (80% max).

I really haven't had any issue with opening, closing, etc.  I think the
Martec is a good choice for folks who race and want minimal drag.  If my
use was only cruising, I'd probably have a different prop.

Dennis C.



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Re: Stus-List Air filter for kuboda based engines

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Len, I have the same setup as you on my universal M-35. I connected the output 
of the Jeg air/oil filter to a rigid part of the K air filter so the engine 
breath back the crank case vapor. I used to have oily odor in the cabin after 
motoring before that.
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Le samedi 4 mars 2017 13h37, Len Mitchell via CnC-List 
 a écrit :
 

 Dennis, I have had a K filter on ours for probably 8 years now. They claim 
the technology provides better air flow than the OEM filter too. To build on 
your post, I installed a small automotive air/oil separator from Jegs on the 
crank case breather hose to eliminate fine mist and oil odour in the engine 
compartment. It collects maybe an ounce of oil a year depending on running 
hours but I would rather collect it than have to clean it up. The hose still 
terminates by the breather. 60 days to Splash Down!
Len
Crazy Legs
1989 37+
Midland On.

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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

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The Airmar P79 NMEA that I installed gave me good reading when crossing Lake 
Ontario last summer. I saw 680ft. My old B Hecta was starting to give random 
values at 600ft. I was supprised as the P79 is an inhull transducer.
Pierre TremblayAvalanche #54988C WK, hull #76 

Le mercredi 22 février 2017 12h43, Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List 
 a écrit :
 

 @Marek- Tri-data (depth, temp, speed over water) sounds interesting.  I'll 
check into that.  If I go chartplotter, I'll need to figure is where to mount 
the head unit.   With a tiller, the wheel pedestal is out of the question.
@Rick- Support for depth over 200ft is useful to me for setting prawn traps.  
The sweet spot for catching prawns seems to be between 350 and 250 ft around 
here (Vancouver BC).
Thanks,  Jeremy 
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Re: Stus-List Pedestal wiring

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Hello Paul,
I had cut the extension cable for my RAM3 remote mic and re-spliced it without 
any issue. I did not used butt crimp, but soldered and shrink wrap each 
individual wire. I tried to keep enough shield braid to cover the splicing 
section. Of course, I cut the VHF end of the cable so splice would be in a more 
environmental control space.
Pierre TremblayAvalanche #54988C WK, hull #76 

Le mardi 28 juin 2016 1h03, paul.hood via CnC-List  
a écrit :
 

 Im trying to send wiring (Transducer and vhf/power) to the Chart plotter and 
alao to a ram mike at the pedestal  Wire ends are factory and told by Standard 
Horizon not to cut.  They are 3/4" and 7/8" diameter each Pedestal Guard rail 
is barely 1" O.D.  I'm looking for recommendations. Do I1) make huge elongated 
holes in the pedestal guard and run wiring through guard into cockpit floor 
(7/8" head won't even fit the I.D. of guard)2) come up through pedestal instead 
and drill a hole in the backside of pedestal.  3) cut wire ends off and 
reconnect after bring them through a smaller hole on either the guard or 
pedestal


Paul Hood81 C

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Stus-List Re : Re: List down?

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Was thinking the same that everypne was out sailng.


Here, nice sail yesterday. Today went out on the kids new to them 29er. Good I 
am old.


Pierre Tremblay

Avalanche

CC 38-3

De:Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date:dim., 19, juil., 2015 « à » 14:36
Objet:Re: Stus-List List down?

Heat index over 100.  Doing an evening sail. 

Joel

On Sunday, July 19, 2015, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

I think everyone (but you and I…) are out on their boats…   :^(


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI


On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:


Nothing since Friday...is the list down or is everyone out sailing?

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 CC 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200



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Re: Stus-List Mirage in Newport

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Jean-François, the Mirage you are refering to on YachtWorld is from the 
manufacturer Mirage. Harry's Mirage is a CC Northeast 39.
Pierre Tremblay
Avalanche #54988
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
  De : Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Cc : Jean-Francois J Rivard jfriv...@us.ibm.com 
 Envoyé le : mercredi 20 mai 2015 15h27
 Objet : Stus-List Mirage in Newport
   
Hi Harry, 

That's correct I don't know which modelyou have, in any case it's really pretty 
and I loved your Newport VOR videos.

Here's the Mirage I looked at on Yachtworld: 
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1989/Mirage-Yachts-39-Sloop-2431533/Kingston/Canada#.VVzdEE1FAkI

Here's a 34 plus like mine:  
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/C%26C-34-Plus-2698751/Buffalo/NY/United-States#.VVzdXU1FAkI

Many similarities in the design.  Bothlook great (I'm biased) 

Have a great day.  


-Francois Rivard
1990 34+  Take Five
Lake Lanier, Georgia

Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 13:14:03 -0400
From: Harry Hallgring hhallgr...@icloud.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mirage in Newport
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Francois,
Maybe a different model you are seeing.Mine doesn't have a wing or scoop??

Harry
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 On May 20, 2015, at 10:55, Jean-FrancoisJ Rivard via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Francois

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Re: Stus-List Mirage in Newport

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Here some pictures of Miragehttps://www.flickr.com/gp/77363625@N06/jN790G 
Pierre Tremblay
Avalanche #54988
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
  De : Harry Hallgring hhallgr...@icloud.com
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Cc : Pierre Tremblay tremblay.pie...@yahoo.ca 
 Envoyé le : mardi 19 mai 2015 9h09
 Objet : Re: Stus-List Mirage in Newport
   
Thanks for the kind words Pierre!
Here are a few shots from Sunday's VOR leg start. We were on Alvimedica's chase 
boat...great day!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/46147579@N08/sets/72157652015578858

HarrySent from my iPhone


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I saw Harry's Mirage in Newport during the VOR weekend. Nicest boat on the 
water. Will post pictures somewhere and email the link to the list.
Pierre Tremblay
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CC38-3 WK, hull #76

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Stus-List Mirage in Newport

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I saw Harry's Mirage in Newport during the VOR weekend. Nicest boat on the 
water. Will post pictures somewhere and email the link to the list.
Pierre Tremblay
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Re: Stus-List Mast on cc 33 MKII

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My mast is from Offshore Spar (as my boom, spin pole and vang). I think all CC 
mast of those years were from them.  Pierre Tremblay
Avalanche #54988
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Cc : Paul Fountain p...@seasource.ca 
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Brad, ours was made by CC. Contact Rob MacLachlan at South Shore Yachts for 
parts. 

His email: sa...@southshoreyachts.com

Website: http://southshoreyachts.com/


Paul Fountain
Managing Director
SeaSource Inc.
Bookkeeping  IT Services.

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Subject: Stus-List Mast on cc 33 MKII


I've tried a search and am unable to find the manufacturer of the mast on my 
1985 cnc 33 MKII, need to order new guides for the spin pole car as one is 
broken, any ideas?
Thanx
Brad
C  C 33 Pulse
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Re: Stus-List Electronics update

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Hi John,
1- My transducer is in front of the keel. I think this is most manufacturer 
recommendation. If yours is working fine, leave it there.
2- I am using marinebeam.com product for the LEDs. I have a BA9S for AquaSignal 
deck streaming LED light (sku BA-9S-5W), a BA9S 15 LEDs (sku BA-9S-15-CW) for 
Anchor light and a 44mm festoon (sku FS-44-30B-CW) for the mid mast AquaSignal 
navigation light.
3- I leave that to others.
Pierre Tremblay
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CC38-3 WK, hull #76
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 Objet : Stus-List Electronics update
   
Hi All,Great info being passed around. We are upgrading our instruments and 
have a few questions. 1. Our depth transducer is located +/_ 2 feet on center 
line behind the keel. Is this the normal location?
2. Has any on change the spreader and mast head lights to LEDs, and what brand 
would you suggest using.
3. Is anyone using a backstay radar mount. I think this is the best option. 
Currently it is on a pole with two ugly braces that interfere with the swim 
ladder. For those using the backstay mount any issues?
ThanksJohn  Marjolein1979 CC 36Dutch Girl
Oh forgot anyone know the PHRF rating to the 36?
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Re: Stus-List Electronics deals?

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Just downloaded the BG rebate PDF from Defender, and the rebate for the Triton 
Speed/Depth/Wind package is $150US and an additional Triton give $50US more.
Defender has a 2 Triton + Speed/Depth/Wind package at $1700. If I compare with 
BLYacht.com pricing for the equivalent (Triton S/D/W pack + 1 Triton), Defender 
is $100 less even considering exchange rate (0.78) and taxes (13% in ON), 
excluding shipping. Shipping and broking fee for Defender might kill the 
difference.
Yes Garmin bundle will (usual not-my-fault-if-it-don't-work) work with BG 
stuff. Calibration of Garmin sensor will be available only on the Garmin 
display.
Pierre Tremblay
Avalanche #54988
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
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 Envoyé le : mercredi 18 février 2015 9h42
 Objet : Stus-List Electronics deals?
   
Hi All,
Last year BG had a promo/rebate on their wind/speed/depth package where they 
offered a free display with the purchase of the kit. That was a good deal and I 
would have taken advantage of it then but other priorities won out. 
Right now, it looks like BG is only offering a $100 rebate on the kit, far 
less appealing than the promo last year. I know at least one of you guys is 
involved in the marine electronics business and maybe you know of other deals 
or promos that are available or that might be on their way for spring? What I'm 
after is a wind instrument first and foremost, I have speed and depth but I'll 
do the whole shebang if it's a good deal. The Garmin GWS 10 wind sensor/display 
bundle is priced very competively but I've never liked Garmin. I believe it is 
nmea 2k though so it should work with say, a BG Zeus 8 or something, right?
Cheers,
SteveSuhana, CC 32Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters

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I have a Zeus Touch T8 on Avalanche and I also like it a lot. I also have a 
Triton display and some other devices to get my old BG Hornet4 data to the N2K 
network. Integration is easy as all devices see each others on the network.
Jim is right, the included charts are very limited, and it is for all the first 
generation of Zeus Touch. I had to get C-Map Max-N for the great lakes. I 
recently find a way to get BSB charts on my Zeus.
Layline and some other feature require a compass. The ZG100 ($200) will do the 
job very well, but is not enough for autopilot or MARPA witch require more 
precision (like the RC42). The ZG100 will also give heel, trim and faster more 
precise GPS data. And for Wifi, a WIFI-1 ($220) or any other router is 
required. The WIFI-1 is a lot easier to install.
I went through the manual of the new Zeus2, and from what I see, the first 
generation Zeus Touch will do almost everything the new Zeus2 does. Zeus2 is 
faster and has the 2 finger zoom feature, and they will add some cloud feature 
to the Zeus2 this spring.
Up to now, I don't regret going with BG. I even found a good contact at Navico 
for support 
Pierre Tremblay
Avalanche #54988
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
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 Envoyé le : vendredi 30 janvier 2015 12h12
 Objet : Re: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters


   
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 I guess it is all what you are used to, I have a Zeus Touch T7 on Firewater 
and like it very much, though part of the attraction is the full integration 
with my Triton instruments, which makes it like a big instrument display in 
addition to being a chartplotter.  I have not really needed the manual for 
regular use.  
The one thing about the BG system that is not obvious is the need for some 
additional pieces.  The Zeus T7 at least comes with very limited charts, the T8 
may be better in that regard.  I felt the need to buy charts to even get the 
breakwall in our harbor on the cart.  The other issue is that it really needs 
an external compass transducer to properly function even as a chartplotter.  
There is another optional piece, which I have, to give you iPad control as Andy 
describes below, so it definitely is available.  The bottom line is that the 
price of the T8 alone may not be the true cost to give you the features you 
want.
I think with any of these you need to evaluate it in light of the integration 
opportunities with other instruments and sensors.  If you have relatively 
current Raymarine instruments, they might well talk to the E7.  If you have 
BG, they might well talk to a Zeus unit.  They aren’t just chartplotters any 
more, they really are designed to be part of a system.  Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Jim ReinardyCC 30-2 “Firewater”Milwaukee, WI 
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Re: Stus-List Indigo is for sale.

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Good luck Rich.
I don't want to be the little devil on your shoulder, but, shipping your LF38 
to the west will be cheaper than the difference between the price of an other 
boat in BC and the selling price of your LF. Add to that the investment on the 
BC boat to get her to your liking.
You love her (Indigo), bring her west...
Pierre Tremblay
Avalanche #54988
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
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 Objet : Re: Stus-List Indigo is for sale.
   
Good luck Rich!  With the relocation and selling your boat!
Danny

From my Android phone 


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From: Knowles Rich via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Date: 12/16/2014 3:50 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list Cnc-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Indigo is for sale. 
 

After a few years of equivocating and procrastinating, I have finally decided 
to relocate.  We are moving to Nanaimo BC, the other end of Canada, and intend 
to make our home there for the foreseeable future. We plan to hit the road on 
January 8, weather permitting, for a three week or so odyssey and arrive around 
the end of January.
The sad part of this will be leaving Indigo, our LF 38 behind. It’s simply not 
practical to ship her to the west coast and the North West Passage is a bit too 
ice choked at this time of year to sail. So, she is up for sale. Details can be 
seen at: 
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/city-of-halifax/sailboat-c-c-landfall-38-a-great-christmas-present/1039227171?src=topAdSearch
I’ll still be lurking and, who knows, may wind up with another CC. A good 
thing. 
Cheers to all.
Rich Knowles
INDIGO LF38
Halifax, NS.







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Re: Stus-List CC 33-I Spreaders?

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+1Last year, Klacko had it in stock when a member at our club found a cracked 
on his CC32 spreader. 
Pierre Tremblay
Avalanche #54988
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
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 Objet : Stus-List CC 33-I Spreaders?
   


David
You may want to contact Tim Doel at  Klacko Spars
 klackosp...@bellnet.ca  
(905) 825-0015



Klacko provided the original CC masts back in the 70's and 80's.

They are located on Oakville, Ontario.

Martin
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Re: Stus-List CnC 38-3 Sailing Characteristics

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Mike,
I don't know what wind condition you have in SD, but I would say 135. This is 
what I have on my furler and, if the shape is ok, should be good up to 20 kn. 
My #2 is very old and baggy and also give me a lot of weather helm. I have a 
racing Kevlar 135 that is good up to 25 kn. 150 is a pain to tack in light wind 
and is only good under 10 kn.
Pierre Tremblay
Avalanche #54988
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
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 Objet : Stus-List CnC 38-3 Sailing Characteristics
   


 I recently purchased a 38-3.  Now need to replace headsail.  Could use some 
input on 110 vs 135 vs 150 use. I'm replacing a135  which rounded us up or 
resulted in heavy weather helm with small crew. I also singlehand a lot so I'm 
trying to figure out what workd best for me San Diego sailing.  Appreciate any 
info.
Mike Flannery602-849-3396


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Re: Stus-List CC 38 MK III Info

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Hi Doug,

Avalanche has a wing keel. Cannot compare with the full keel, but I can say 
that upwind performance is impressive. All the experience sailor at the club 
think I have the full keel because I can point so well.

With the genoa sheeted tight in the shrouds, the telltales are streaming up to 
27 degree AWA. At 25 AWA, the windward telltales are lifting, I can hold 20 
degree AWA for few minutes without stalling, but it is slow.

I found the polar diagram of a CC 38-3 full keel (from an ORC International 
Certificate), and the VMG is at 42 degree TWA. Last summer, I recorded my boat 
data during a race, and most of my tack where 85 degree (there were no wind 
shift during those).

It is tender that other sailboat, but not that much. With my cruising sails, I 
have to reef early (15 knots TWS), but I think it is more related to my old 15 
years old cruising sails (read potato bag shape). During a race, we had the 
#1 genoa up, and with 15 knots TWS, never heeled more than 22 degree. With the 
huge sail plan, it heel faster that other boat, but it rapidly sits on its 
cheeks. Huge beam those 38-3. I have all sorts of comment on my boat; it looks 
pregnant, looks like a squirrel with a mouthful of nuts, etc...

Around here (St-Lawrence 1000 Islands), the shoal draft is priceless.

Pierre Tremblay 
Avalanche #54988 
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
 


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Envoyé le : samedi 8 novembre 2014 10h44
Objet : Stus-List CC 38 MK III Info
  

I'm looking at a 1987 CC 38 MK III with a wing keel. Does anyone out there
have any experience on how the upwind performance is with the wing keel at
5' 6 draft vs the full keel at 7' 7 draft. I understand that the full keel
model will probably point better, I'm just trying to get a feel for what I
might be giving up with the wing. Also curious to know how tender the boat
might be. Plan to do some casual club racing.

Doug
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Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?

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Turbo lift?

Pierre Tremblay 
Avalanche #54988 
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
 


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Envoyé le : jeudi 16 octobre 2014 19h58
Objet : Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
  


Listers,

Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I’m starting my list of projects 
-- One of which is some mast work. 

Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, 
what did you use. 

There’s an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so it’s on 
my mind.

And no, the transporter can’t materialize me at the top of the mast. 




All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 105, Issue 29

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Hi Larry,

I have the wing keel. With its 5'6, it help to go almost everywhere around 
here (lake Ontario).

Pierre Tremblay 
Avalanche #54988 
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
 


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Pierre
Three of us, wow
She be a full fin keel.
How about yours
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Re: Stus-List 86 CC MKIII 38-ft owner's manual

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Hi Larry,

Welcome to The list.

Yeah, another 38-3 owner on the list. It make's three that I am aware of. :)

I also have my manual in its original orange plasticized binder.

Is she a fin, or wing keel?

Pierre Tremblay 
Avalanche #54988 
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
 


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Objet : Stus-List 86 CC MKIII 38-ft owner's manual
  



Good-day all
I recently purchased a CC
We were the market a Sail Boat and fell in love with this vessel.
Pretty darn good shape. Pretty much like new inside and excellent shape
outside.
Very little use. Just a couple times a year and the owner paid to have it
maintained.
To the point. I got in touch with one of the fellows that was with CC in
the 80's
He sent me a copy of the original owner's manual.
I would be willing to post it on the site or send it to someone in a pdf
file.
I am going to copy it and attempt to make it into a word doc. That process
is not always successful.
For now if someone needs
 a copy or could tell me how to post it on the site.
Thanks.
Larry

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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:09:35 -0400
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Volvo ocean race game?
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There's another online nav game with which some may be familiar:

Virtual-loup-de-mer.org

French website but most interface is available in English.
It's not as graphically fancy as Volvo but seems to be more for 'serious'
nav players.
I
 have been on and off it over last 10 years and some of the same dudes are
still there . . .
Free and ad-free always works for me. 
A bigger race like VOR or Vendee will get over 1000 entrants.

The interface is good and it's accurate, ie good charts, but if you want a
nicer looking GUI there are some apps such as Frogtools which work with the
website.
With that and Ugrib you're all set.

Cheers


Steve Hood
S/V Diamond Girl
CC 34
Lions Head ON






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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 22:34:07 -0300
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Anyone doing the volvo ocean race game?  (Virtual regatta at
http://www.virtualregatta.com/)

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CC 35-III #11




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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 18:39:18 -0400
From: Jerome Tauber jrtau...@aol.com
To: Bruno Lachance bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com,
cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Redline 41
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For around 50-75K you can get a late 80s CC 41 with PHRF around 70.   I
assume the Redline 41 will come in somewhere around PHRF 25.  
Jerry. CC. 27 V JJ.  
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 On Oct 12, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 i did not see the new Redline 41, But i
 hope that it is more than
slithtly higher quality than a Bene or a Hanse. i charter a brand new
(1month) Hanse in the BVI last year. nice boat, but the quality of the
inside is fairly cheap and the deck hardware is minimal... this is just not
the same buyer in my opinion. The comp?tition is more like Jboats, Xboats
and other european speedsters.
 
 i just hope they do well and add more boats to the new CC lineup. but its
a very tough market out there.
 
 you luck you could step on it!
 
 Bruno
 cc 33 mkII
 Becassine
 
 Envoy? de mon iPad
 
 Le 2014-10-11 ? 12:32, Roger Ware via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com a
?crit :
 
 Joel, You forgot to mention the bad- the 41 is a very expensive boat
$400K.  Hard to see how it
 will compete well with the 

Re: Stus-List Up-sizing boats

[Pierre Tremblay via CnC-List]

There is a CC 36XL in Toronto
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1996/C%26C-36XL-2527557/toronto/Canada#.U_NvE010zmE

Pierre Tremblay 
Avalanche #54988 
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
 
 De : Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Envoyé le : mardi 19 août 2014 11h01
Objet : Stus-List Up-sizing boats
  



Hi all,

I'm currently in a Viking 33. I am 6'-0 tall and I cannot stand up in most of 
the boat and I'm tired of hitting my head. The wife and I are starting to 
cruise more and find that after 3 days on board we NEED to get off. I love how 
this boat sails! she handles beautifully and has a very slippery hull, deep 
keel and points like nobody's business! However we really want some creature 
comforts. Like, at least a swim platform, I think this can be added to the 
right boat, A stand-up shower and a usable galley. A large cockpit is also on 
the want list for entertaining.

We don't race but we like to go fast. 

My thoughts are to either buy a
 suitable older boat and have her modified to what we want or go for a new 
boat. We like the Jeanneau 349 but my fear is the quality of the new boats and 
the composites they use. I love the solid hull on my viking. The wife really 
loves the light open feeling of the newer boats and I'm only even considering 
them for her sake.

I'd like to start a conversation on this and hopefully come to a conclusion. I 
feel that a new boat will depreciate quickly and a refurb of an older boat will 
offer a better quality built boat overall and the value will remain largely the 
same.

I have, until now, rehabbed 2 boats from the brink of the crusher. Although I 
enjoyed the process and have a strong sense of accomplishment, I don't want to 
do it again. I want to find a boat, have the work contracted out by a reputable 
yard and end up in a turn key situation. I'm getting a bit older and just want 
a boat, in great shape, that I can simply maintain and sail more
 than work on.

I'm considering looking on the great lakes for a nice freshwater boat.  I think 
and older freshwater boat will potentially be in better shape than a newer 
saltwater vessel.  I think the added cost of the shipping or extended cruising 
vacation could really be worth it!!

I'm looking forward to all the tips, suggestions and insights!!

I guess someone is going to get a really nice V33 in Lolita!

Danny

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Re: Stus-List BG Instruments

[Pierre Tremblay via CnC-List]

Search BG H1000 universal interface box. It will convert the H1000 bus to 
NMEA0183.

Pierre Tremblay 
Avalanche #54988 
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
 


 De : Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
À : Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Envoyé le : mardi 15 juillet 2014 12h47
Objet : Re: Stus-List BG Instruments
  


Fred
 
So then back to the original question.  Could these BG H1000 era transducers 
be effectively connected to newer Raymarine displays?  All of the data seems 
good on the BG.  The wiring and the boxes in behind the bulkheads look almost 
new.  The transducers are obviously working.  The displays however are 
difficult to read from angles and on one there are some lines missing on the 
bottom of the screen. I can however effectively use all three but would prefer 
something much clearer.  The former ST50 and ST60 series were very readable and 
the new ones obviously more so.  Also – would not wish to have noticeable lag 
when watching speed etc.
 
Am considering replacing with the ST50/ST60 tripack and removing and selling 
the BG H1000 transducers and wiring and everything as one package.  Also have 
added a Raymarine A65 for nav station chartplotter so it would work with the 
ST50/60 set and as a result have a working Furuno G31 GPS and antenna to sell 
as well.  New stuff is so much prettier.  Call me a crow.
 
Mike
 
 


From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:12 PM
To: Jean-Francois J Rivard; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List BG Instruments
 
Jean-Francois — just to expand on this, pretty much any older transducer (and 
many of the new ones) do NOT directly output NMEA0183 or NMEA2000 data; most of 
the depth, speed and wind transducers need to be connected to a display head 
which will then convert the signals into NMEA0183, NMEA2000 or SeaTalk data.
 
The exceptions are the “smart” transducers from Airmar (and others; but Airmar 
makes most of the transducers for most of the manufacturers); these are capable 
of being directly connected to NMEA0183 or NMEA2000 networks.
 
You can also get boxes from some manufacturers that will convert the older 
transducer outputs into usable network data.  An example would be the ITC-5 
from Raymarine which takes the analog outputs of speed, wind, depth, 
temperature, fluxgate compass and rudder position transducers and converts it 
all into a SeaTalkNG data stream that can be also used in most cases on an 
NMEA2000 network.  It’s a nice (and pretty inexpensive) way to move into the 
newer data network topologies.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
 
On Jul 15, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:


Hi Mike, 

The easiest thing would be to find out the nature of the signal is out of the 
computers / transducers.  If it's NMEA 0183 compatible then you just get a NMEA 
0183 to NMEA 2000 converter (A Google search will easily get that)  If not find 
out if there is a way to get the signal converted to NMEA 0183 then you take 
that and convert it further to NMEA 2000. 

Once you get to NMEA 2000 than pretty much all MFD's  / chartplotters can use 
it.  Of course you'll have some latency / refresh rate annoyances as the 
conversion will introduce some lag in the process. 

Honestly though. It's probably worth a haul-out to pop then ancient stuff out 
and pop-in fresh transducers. 

I had that done this spring. It was a surprisingly simple process, the new 
masthead was pretty simple to install and speed / temp / depth transducer takes 
just one through hull an is very accurate.  The underwater transducer is the 
same standard size as the old one (Both made by Airmar), it was basically and 
pop-off / pop-in job. 

I installed a pair of new BG Triton MFD's and a Zeus chartplotter.  The 
displays are amazingly clear  / easy to use / and full of neat features.  All 
the above works on a standard NMEA 2000 backbone so adding other sensors  / 
displays in the future should simply be a plug and play into the backbone 
affair regardless of the brand.  

Good Luck, 

-Francois Rivard
1990 CC 34+ Take Five
Lake Lanier, Georgia





Anybody on this list use BG H1000 series instruments?  I have these on
my Frers 33 and the displays are sometimes difficult to read (esp at
night and on angles) and are starting to lose some of what I call raster
lines (for lack of proper term).  Does anyone know if there is a newer
Multifunction display that is compatable with the behind the scenes
computers and transducers?

Thanks Mike

Persistence
1987 Frers 33
(I know - not a CC)
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Re: Stus-List CC 38mkIII

[Pierre Tremblay via CnC-List]

Hi Jerry,

I own a 38-3 wing keel (5'6 draft) and my VMG is around 26-27 AWA. Most poeple 
at the club think I have a deep draft because I can point so close to wind.

My PHRF (Lake Ontario) is 108 vs 102 for the deep draft.

Pierre Tremblay 
Avalanche #54988 
CC38-3 WK, hull #76
 


 De : Jerome Tauber via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Envoyé le : jeudi 19 juin 2014 11h51
Objet : Stus-List CC 38mkIII
  

I've owned a CC 24 and 29mkII and now own a 27mkV.  A friend and I are 
considering partnering on a 38mkIII.  The 7.5 foot draft may be good in the 
Mariana Trench but not in my harbor. (3 mile Harbor ).   Has anyone had any 
experience with the shoal keel version which I think gives the boat a. 6'4 
draft ( still problematic).  How does it point.  How many points does it gain 
in PHRF.   Any other comments appreciated.  Jerry

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Re: Stus-List Folding Prop

[Pierre Tremblay via CnC-List]

I also have a 2 blade folding Martec on my 38-3. I dont remember the size of 
it, I'll have to dig that from my pictures. It is original (26 years old) and 
has been rebuilt only once by the PO.

I have some vibration only at specific RPM. It take a bit more RPM to bite in 
reverse, but I'm getting used to it.

I never tried full forward RPM yet, but it push the boat at 6.7 kts at 2400 RPM.


Pierre Tremblay 
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