I would wager that Practical Sailor has done some sort of testing on bedding
compounds in their history. I have not looked to see if this is true, merely
an assumption based on past reading and following of the publication.
Regards,
Bob Tallman
631.387.6748
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 9:30 PM, leewardrail hotmail via
CnC-List wrote:
"I still have about a half a roll of 3M butyl tape purchased about 18 years ago
at an auto supply house that caters to body shops."
That's the thing... that was 18 years ago. getting things like lacquer
automotive paints and excellent anti-fouling 18 years ago was easy. As
production costs and environmental rules increase, products change. Look at
what Interlux just did with their anti-fouling product line.
I fully agree with 3M being good products, but even the 3M rep I dealt with 4
years ago, admitted that have had to reformulate some products. That said, if I
had to assume that someone made a decent butyl, it would be 3M. That would also
assume the market is still big enough for a similar formulation, as opposed to
profitable replacement products.
FWIW the Bed-it stuff is much stickier than the others i have used. That is the
big thing IMO. I would love to see practical boat owner buy a bunch of butyl
and test them.
Based on a thread I just found, looks like he sold the formulation and brand to
sailboatowners.com, not just have them sell it.
https://www.sailnet.com/threads/no-bed-it-butyl-tape.343577/
Cheers, Roy
On 2022-10-25 7:26 p.m., Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote:
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I still have about a half a roll of 3M butyl tape purchased about 18 years ago
at an auto supply house that caters to body shops. Long time ago, when I was in
the car business working for GM, I learned that there were no higher quality
alternatives to 3M products. So that has pretty much been my go-to source for
adhesives and so forth. In the 18 years I’ve had Imzadi I’ve never had a leak
or had any of the 3M tape squish out from under the hardware.
Never tried Bed-It Butyl, though I know it to be highly regarded by those on
the list. So I can’t compare it to what I’ve used. But 3M stuff is readily
available and performs well in my experience.
Rick Brass
Imzadi C 38 mk2 #47
la Belle Aurore C 25 mk1 #225
Washington, NC
From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 6:02 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject: Stus-List Re: bed-it butyl tape source
My feeling of the Bed-it-Butyl, is that it seems to kind of hold together.
While the original or garden variety from the RV stores keeps moving, under
head it seems like it will drip away, while the Bed-it seems to not move, more
firm, like it has invisible fibers in it. (it doesn't)
Also, diesel will dissolve it, as well as 5200 and 4200.
Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie PA
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 5:26 PM Dave S via CnC-List
wrote:
It would be interesting to compare bed-it to other butyl tapes. I find it
doubtful that it has any special marine magic mojo that other quality products
don’t. it is very likely Rod found a good product he trusted, has had
private labelled, and has done a good job of promoting it. (Good for him)
Likely there is another brand out there with identical packaging etc….
The butyl C used originally has stood up really well and I’d use that for any
refit, knowing it will outlast me.
Long shot here but does anyone know what the factory used?
Dave 33-2 windstar
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 25, 2022, at 12:34 PM, Leeward Rail via CnC-List
wrote:
Thanks Paul. I have ordered some and will compare it.
Oct. 25, 2022 8:06:14 a.m. Dreuge via CnC-List :
I have purchased Dicor butyl tape from Amazon. I have been using it for
several years now, and this stuff is the real deal. See "Dicor BT-1834-1 1/8"
x 3/4”
x 30' Butyl Seal Tape” for $11.86 Prime free delivery.
Here is
