Re: Stus-List New potential C owner... maybe?

[Sander van der Moolen via CnC-List]

Wow those pictures are amazing! Thanks for sharing 

I am not as tall as you (6’1 or 1.87m) but I doubt that will make the v-berth 
more comfy… Will check it out.

 

When my wife and I go for the visit, we’ll take our own pictures and share some.

 

 

Van: RANDY [mailto:randy.staff...@comcast.net] 
Verzonden: maandag 12 juni 2017 19:57
Aan: Sander van der Moolen 
CC: cnc-list 
Onderwerp: Re: Stus-List New potential C owner... maybe?

 

Well, I don't know the exact measurement of the forward V-berth, but let me put 
it this way.  I'm about 6'3" tall and I just barely fit in the V-berth.  My 
feet can touch the forward bulkhead while my head touches the next one aft.  
And there's not much room forward for both my feet and my wife's feet.  We find 
the most comfortable sleeping arrangement is to convert the dinette, and slide 
out the starboard settee.  I can lay corner-to-corner on the converted dinette 
and have enough room.  Your mileage may vary, depending on the berths in the 
30E and your heights (the 30E appears to have settees on both sides, and a 
fold-down table around the mast.  That's a different interior layout than the 
30-1.)

 

More pics of Grenadine (from last year) at 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-NqAxQ6JxFTY0VBM2hlT0hveDQ.

 

Cheers,

Randy

 

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From: "Sander van der Moolen"  >
To: "RANDY"  >, 
"cnc-list"  >
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 10:47:30 AM
Subject: RE: Stus-List New potential C owner... maybe?

 

Hi Randy,

 

Thanks for the links and info, very helpful! Love the pictures and your 
detailed project report. Will certainly keep that on hand.

Not sure if the boat has carbon spars, I will check when we go to visit it. She 
sure looks great, that’s what attracted me to the 27 back then too.

And 1.90m headroom in the cabin, I can comfortably stand upright in there! I 
think 15k is very reasonable, especially if she’s in good shape structurally.

I do plan to have a professional survey done.

 

What is the length of the forward cabin bed, btw? We want a boat which can take 
us on vacation for a week or two (or longer) so a comfy bed is kinda important.

 

Thanks!

Sander

 

 

Van: RANDY [mailto:randy.staff...@comcast.net] 
Verzonden: maandag 12 juni 2017 17:52
Aan: cnc-list  >
CC: sander  >
Onderwerp: Re: Stus-List New potential C owner... maybe?

 

That is a good-looking boat Sander.  Does it have carbon spars?  (I can't read 
Dutch, but it kind of looks like it in the pictures).  Nice that it has tiller 
steering and all lines led aft with deck organizers etc.  And a dodger.  And 
spinnaker gear.  In the pictures the mainsheet is removed but I can see the 
traveler car track just aft of the bridge deck.  My 30-1 has tiller steering 
and boom-end sheeting with the traveler at the aft end of the cockpit, which 
makes for a very roomy cockpit (pics at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTVnJfSm9lRnZNa1E).

 

It's hard to find information on the 30E.  Sailboatdata.com doesn't have it.  I 
saw polar diagrams for a 30E once - see 
http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2016-September/088575.html. 
 Apparently they were built from 1977-1982 but I don't know how many were 
built.  They seem rare :)

 

On my 30-1, built eight years before the boat you're looking at, the biggest 
trouble spot was the mast step supports - I had to rebuild them (see 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTUlhmbUs4YTZlZnM).  I also had 
some water ingress at the chainplate cutouts.  But a professional survey, and a 
careful inspection following Don Casey's book, didn't find any deal-breakers or 
showstoppers.

 

Cheers,

Randy Stafford

S/V Grenadine

C 30-1 #7

Ken Caryl, CO

 

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From: "sander via CnC-List"  >
To: "cnc-list"  >
Cc: "sander"  >
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 4:24:58 AM
Subject: Stus-List New potential C owner... maybe?

 

Hi all,

 

I hope everybody is enjoying a fantastic sailing season so far. It's been years 
since I subbed this list, back then you gave me great advice regarding the 
purchase of a completely stripped c 27. I ended up not buying the boat, 
mostly because I lack both experience and money to complete a rebuild project 
within any reasonable timeframe.

 

In the meantime I left my employer to start my own business. After a bit of 
initial struggles, the success is giving me the benefit of expanding my budget 
for a boat, for which I am very grateful :-)

 

And guess what... another c for sale just 15 mins driving from where i live. 
This one is a 30E which 

Re: Stus-List New potential C owner... maybe?

[Sander van der Moolen via CnC-List]

Hi Rick,

 

Thanks, that’s valuable info. 

>From what I read, it appears that the 30 E was built in Germany (the article 
>speaks of issues due to rising DM). 

No idea if that makes a difference in build quality or if that difference is 
better or worse. Another reason to have a thorough survey done.

 

Sander

 

Van: Rick Taillieu [mailto:rtaill...@eastlink.ca] 
Verzonden: maandag 12 juni 2017 19:45
Aan: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Onderwerp: Re: Stus-List New potential C owner... maybe?

 

The Canadian Yachting article on C history on the Photo Album site 
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/archive/cnchistory/c2c.htm ,

says that the 30E was a “europeanized” version of C 29 mk1.

Any issues with the 29 mk1 would probably apply to the 30E as well.

 

Rick Taillieu

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

 

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From: "sander via CnC-List"  >
To: "cnc-list"  >
Cc: "sander"  >
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 4:24:58 AM
Subject: Stus-List New potential C owner... maybe?

 

Hi all,

 

I hope everybody is enjoying a fantastic sailing season so far. It's been years 
since I subbed this list, back then you gave me great advice regarding the 
purchase of a completely stripped c 27. I ended up not buying the boat, 
mostly because I lack both experience and money to complete a rebuild project 
within any reasonable timeframe.

 

In the meantime I left my employer to start my own business. After a bit of 
initial struggles, the success is giving me the benefit of expanding my budget 
for a boat, for which I am very grateful :-)

 

And guess what... another c for sale just 15 mins driving from where i live. 
This one is a 30E which apparently is a European build. I live in The 
Netherlands, by the way.

Here is a link to the boat for sale:

http://www.devaartyachting.com/nl/956/cc-30e.html

Really, I don't know why c keeps calling me hahaha.

 

Does anyone of you have any experience with this particular model and what are 
the things I should specifically look for when going to see the boat? It's on 
blocks so I can see under the waterline as well.

 

Thanks!

Sander.

 

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Re: Stus-List New potential C owner... maybe?

[Sander van der Moolen via CnC-List]

Hi Randy,

 

Thanks for the links and info, very helpful! Love the pictures and your 
detailed project report. Will certainly keep that on hand.

Not sure if the boat has carbon spars, I will check when we go to visit it. She 
sure looks great, that’s what attracted me to the 27 back then too.

And 1.90m headroom in the cabin, I can comfortably stand upright in there! I 
think 15k is very reasonable, especially if she’s in good shape structurally.

I do plan to have a professional survey done.

 

What is the length of the forward cabin bed, btw? We want a boat which can take 
us on vacation for a week or two (or longer) so a comfy bed is kinda important.

 

Thanks!

Sander

 

 

Van: RANDY [mailto:randy.staff...@comcast.net] 
Verzonden: maandag 12 juni 2017 17:52
Aan: cnc-list 
CC: sander 
Onderwerp: Re: Stus-List New potential C owner... maybe?

 

That is a good-looking boat Sander.  Does it have carbon spars?  (I can't read 
Dutch, but it kind of looks like it in the pictures).  Nice that it has tiller 
steering and all lines led aft with deck organizers etc.  And a dodger.  And 
spinnaker gear.  In the pictures the mainsheet is removed but I can see the 
traveler car track just aft of the bridge deck.  My 30-1 has tiller steering 
and boom-end sheeting with the traveler at the aft end of the cockpit, which 
makes for a very roomy cockpit (pics at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTVnJfSm9lRnZNa1E).

 

It's hard to find information on the 30E.  Sailboatdata.com doesn't have it.  I 
saw polar diagrams for a 30E once - see 
http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2016-September/088575.html. 
 Apparently they were built from 1977-1982 but I don't know how many were 
built.  They seem rare :)

 

On my 30-1, built eight years before the boat you're looking at, the biggest 
trouble spot was the mast step supports - I had to rebuild them (see 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTUlhmbUs4YTZlZnM).  I also had 
some water ingress at the chainplate cutouts.  But a professional survey, and a 
careful inspection following Don Casey's book, didn't find any deal-breakers or 
showstoppers.

 

Cheers,

Randy Stafford

S/V Grenadine

C 30-1 #7

Ken Caryl, CO

 

  _  

From: "sander via CnC-List"  >
To: "cnc-list"  >
Cc: "sander"  >
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 4:24:58 AM
Subject: Stus-List New potential C owner... maybe?

 

Hi all,

 

I hope everybody is enjoying a fantastic sailing season so far. It's been years 
since I subbed this list, back then you gave me great advice regarding the 
purchase of a completely stripped c 27. I ended up not buying the boat, 
mostly because I lack both experience and money to complete a rebuild project 
within any reasonable timeframe.

 

In the meantime I left my employer to start my own business. After a bit of 
initial struggles, the success is giving me the benefit of expanding my budget 
for a boat, for which I am very grateful :-)

 

And guess what... another c for sale just 15 mins driving from where i live. 
This one is a 30E which apparently is a European build. I live in The 
Netherlands, by the way.

Here is a link to the boat for sale:

http://www.devaartyachting.com/nl/956/cc-30e.html

Really, I don't know why c keeps calling me hahaha.

 

Does anyone of you have any experience with this particular model and what are 
the things I should specifically look for when going to see the boat? It's on 
blocks so I can see under the waterline as well.

 

Thanks!

Sander.

 

Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung Galaxy-smartphone.


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