Stus-List Re: List The attachments are driving me nuts

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

Stu, I would be grateful if you could re-direct emails sent to me from the 
steve-sta...@cherokee.org account to my 
stevenrsta...@gmail.com.
I am of retirement age and starting to do the re-directs. Take your time, BTW. 
Thanks, Steve Staten

-Original Message-
From: Stu via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 12:52 PM
To: C Email List 
Cc: Stu 
Subject:  Stus-List List The attachments are driving me nuts


Folks I have tried and tried to find the problem.  The IT group that maintains 
our list program assure me it is not the problems. The program only relays what 
is sent to it and makes no changes.

I tried contacting several email servers whose customers were experiencing 
problems, and I might as well talk to the wind.

The problems are very sporadic and are not consistent by any means. I have 
several email accounts all with different providers and do not any problems.  
So I cannot relate to the problems.

I am still using Windows Live Mail from Windows Essentials (no longer
available) and Thunderbird Mail.  Both programs access all of my email accounts 
and neither has shown any problems.

I don't know what to suggest at this time except for you to experiment and try 
a different email app on your smartphone, laptop or desktop computers.

I keep trying to find the problem and the solution but right now things do not 
look good.

Stu

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Stus-List Re: Cutting Board Sale

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

I received my board last week, Stu. It looks really nice. I'll enjoy using it. 
Thanks for the opportunity. - Steve

-Original Message-
From: Stu via CnC-List  
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 7:12 AM
To: C Email List 
Cc: Stu 
Subject:  Stus-List Cutting Board Sale


Don't forget -- today and today only -- free boat name and special font on all 
cutting boards.

http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/cutting_boards

Stu
cnc-list@cnc-list.com   cnc-list
cnc-list@cnc-list.com   cnc-list

Stus-List Re: Steve's Cutting Board

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

OK, t's done. You should see a payment from PayPal for $63 USD. The extra $20 
is what I had intended to send last Fall during your fundraiser.
I didn't think to ask if you wanted loonies. If that's not OK, you can send it 
back and I'll send Canadian money. - Steve

From: Stu via CnC-List  
Sent: Saturday, February 5, 2022 2:59 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Stu 
Subject:  Stus-List Steve's Cutting Board

There is still time to get the Admiral something for Valentine's Day:
cncphotoalbum.com/cutting_boards

Stus-List Re: Stus test 1

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

Right! So, I went to order a cutting board, Stu. I got this back when I went to 
pay w/ PayPal:

"Thank you for your order.
Once we have received confirmation of your payment,
your order will be shipped.
Your order total is $ 43
Link to PayPal Cannot query the database.
You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your 
MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near 'est La Vie', '', 
'43.00', 'PayPal', '', '')' at line 1"

I don't know if you are familiar with databases and servers but it appears that 
your order system handles data inserts in comma-delimited form from the website 
with the data fields defined by bracketed apostrophes. The point being is that 
my boat name, "C'est La Vie", is messing up the ability of the database or 
software to import the order due to the apostrophe in C'est mis-parsing the 
data fields. If I leave out the apostrophe on the order, it should process just 
fine. The question is, will you be able to remember to include it on the 
cutting board? CAN you include it on the cutting board? - Steve Staten

-Original Message-
From: Stu via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, February 5, 2022 2:08 PM
To: C Email List 
Cc: Stu 
Subject:  Stus-List Stus test 1


This is sent using Thunderbird Mail App in Plain Text Only.


STU
There is still time to get the Admiral something for Valentine's Day:
cncphotoalbum.com/cutting_boards

There is still time to get the Admiral something for Valentine's Day:
cncphotoalbum.com/cutting_boards

Stus-List Re: Re: Test One

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

Chestnuts roasting on an open fire,
Possums begging at my door,
Although it's been said,
Many times, many ways,
Stay inside, fool.
It's cold.

Mary had a little lamb.
5x5 here.

On 2022-02-02 14:26, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote:
> Testing email
> 1
> 2
> 3
> Test One Two Three

Stus-List Re: Re: Abnormal list things

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

This email of Mr. McNeill's is the only one to come in appearing as normal 
since this started. My email format is MS Outlook.
My co-worker, who served in Iraq, has a saying for these situations: "At least 
no one's shooting at us."

Steve Staten, C 26
"C'est La Vie"
Langley, OK

-Original Message-
From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List  
Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 9:27 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dean McNeill 
Subject:  Stus-List Re: Abnormal list things


Everything normal here… low volume of emails and most end up in my Junk mail, 
but I now know to check there often!

Dean McNeill
BarraWind
C 34
Halifax, NS

Stus-List Re: Re: Perry on Ball

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

I actually stayed in the Hotel California in Ciudad del Este, Paraguay back in 
2015. It is the stolen car capitol of the world, I’m told.

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 3:17 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject:  Stus-List Re: Perry on Ball

♪  You can check out any time you like,
♫But you can never leave! ♪

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Stus-List Re: Re: Your preferences

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

Received – Steve Staten

From: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 1:19 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Ronald B. Frerker
Subject:  Stus-List Re: Your preferences

Received.
Ron


On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 03:20:14 PM CDT, Lewis Cooke 
mailto:lewiscooke...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Recieved

On Sep 16, 2020 1:38 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

TEST ONE

Sent to the list, not any individual person

JDB Coquina

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Re: Stus-List Listers Age Range

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

That's true, Bill. It's a big lake. It fills up with power boats and jet skis 
in the summer though. There are many yachts there and even a fueling station 
for floatplanes. It's where the oil money in Tulsa goes to play. 

Ironically, I live 1.5 hours' drive south of there on the shore of Lake 
Tenkiller but there's not much point in moving it here. Tenkiller is a drowned, 
narrow river valley where to sail it, you would have to tack all the time and 
try hard not to sail too close to the high bluffs where the wind is blocked.  
It gets crowded in the summer as well.

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 9:02 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject:  Re: Stus-List Listers Age Range

Wondered where you sail in Oklahoma, but I see you have a whopping (long) 
reservoir there!
Lots of places to poke around in.

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie PA  (58)

I turned 64 last April ("doin' life without parole...").

Steve Staten
s/v C'Est La Vie
C 26
Langley, OK

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy 
Stafford via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 2:46 AM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Randy Stafford; Luke Wolbrink
Subject:  Stus-List Listers Age Range



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Re: Stus-List Listers Age Range

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

I turned 64 last April ("doin' life without parole...").

Steve Staten
s/v C'Est La Vie
C 26
Langley, OK

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy 
Stafford via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 2:46 AM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Randy Stafford; Luke Wolbrink
Subject:  Stus-List Listers Age Range

So far we’ve got:

Youngest: Luke Wolbrink, age 35
Wisest: Doug Robinson, age 86

I’m in that range, 56.  Neither young nor wise :)

Good to see some young people here - way to go guys.

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30 MK I #79
Ken Caryl, CO


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Re: Stus-List Birds and Stones

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

How about, "Crushing two food riots with one mobile microwave unit"?

Sorry, I've been extrapolating a bit too much lately.

Steve Staten
"C' Est La Vie"
C 26
Langley, OK, USA

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 9, 2020, at 2:41 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Off topic, but I hate the phrase “killing two birds with one stone”.  Who wants 
to kill birds with stones, let alone two at once?  Horrible thought.   We can 
have a contest to come up with alternatives.  Mine is:  “kill two mosquitos 
with one swat”. Absolutely no guilt. Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT




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Re: Stus-List Florida COVID checkpoint

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

There is a perspective that I have yet to see anyone express: even if this 
CV-19 mostly kills elderly folks with existing pre-conditions, it is still hard 
on the younger set when they get it. That still includes doctors, nurses, 
dentists and ambulance drivers. If they’re sick, who will handle the non-covid 
afflictions (i.e. heart attacks, strokes, the car wreck victims and the kids 
with broken bones)?  Broken dentures anyone?

One of my daughters had something really bad in the early part of March. She 
said that her lungs spasmed and felt like they were on fire. She’s 34. How old 
is your doctor or dentist? She tested negative for flu and strep so the 
hospital sent her home. The CV-19 tests were in short supply and she was still 
ambulatory.  She had to teach her four year-old how to make formula for her 
eight month-old. She’s feels 100% recovered NOW but it was a scary week for us 
all.

We just can’t break our healthcare system (it’s half-broken already). Besides, 
the cost of treatment could bankrupt you. Aren’t we supposed to leave our money 
to our kids instead?

Steve Staten
“C’Est La Vie”
C 26’
Langley, OK

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight 
veinot via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2020 4:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dwight veinot
Subject:  Re: Stus-List Florida COVID checkpoint

Man it a serious threat. Don’t think this is fake news. There is a big problem 
with spread down there according to cnn. Here we are advised to isolate. Stay 
home that is unless we have to go out in society for essential business. 
Sailing is not essential. Many of us expect to miss the 2020 sailing season 
altogether. Lots of marinas are restricting normal things. It will be iffy to 
get launched. You got it good, you’re in the water

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Re: Stus-List C Lister Roll Call

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

Steve Staten/"C'Est La Vie"/26/1978/Sails #'s?/stevenrsta...@gmail.com/Langley, 
OK USA
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Re: Stus-List lightning strike

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

Commit an Old Testament sin,
Receive an Old Testament punishment…

Steve Staten
“C’Est La Vie”
C 26
Langley, OK

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Re: Stus-List test

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

...but you can't make it drink.

Steve Staten
"C'Est La Vie", C 26
Langley, OK, USA
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Re: Stus-List Free 35'

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of JP Mail via 
CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 3:45 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: JP Mail 
Subject:  Re: Stus-List Free 35'

Oh jeez!
I went down there, found a 35 and sailed it home. I hope it was the right one. 
Jon

I probably shouldn't encourage you but I laughed out loud for the first time 
today because of that post. Thanks.

Steve Staten
"C'Est La Vie"
26 C
Langley, Oklahoma
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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

My boat, C'Est La Vie, is in a slip on a marina that is in a drowned ravine on 
the reservoir. It has an East/West axis. Last December, a rare easterly storm 
threw high winds and waves down the length of it. Many of us had our dock lines 
frayed to pieces in the tossing about. A boat just down from me was de-masted 
because the stays were a bit loose.
I'm lucky. Only my dock lines were damaged. Now, I have an excuse to replace 
all of them.
Steve Staten
"C'Est La Vie", C 26'
Langley, OK, USA

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Re: Stus-List C Logo mugs

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

For future reference, cafepress.com will make coffee mugs, t-shirts and 
mousepads with whatever (tasteful) image you send to them. Surf their site and 
you will kill an afternoon.
Steve Staten
“C’ Est La Vie”
C 26
Langley, Oklahoma

On Friday, December 7, 2018, 11:33 AM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I have 10 or so new in the box, old stock C logo mugs and a license plate 
frame (new) and a used license plate frame.

Someone make me an offer for all.
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Re: Stus-List someone step up, we are down to the scrap value of the keel!

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

So...wouldn't the donation of a great, much-appreciated boat to a veterans 
sailing camp be tax deductible? Seriously?

Steve Staten
C'Est La Vie, 26
Langley, OK

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:45 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject:  Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: someone step up, we are down 
to the scrap value of the keel!

I am guessing at this point not having to renew the slip would be enough - 
they'll probably give her to you.
Seriously
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C 35 MK I



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of T power via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:57 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: T power mailto:sv_invic...@outlook.com>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List someone step up, we are down to the scrap 
value of the keel!

Wow, If I had the cash, it would be a great addition to our Veterans sailing 
camp, beautiful boat.

Tom Power
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB


From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf 
of Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 4:14 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List someone step up, we are down to the scrap value of the 
keel!

or the Diesel!  Maybe the guys in Detroit?

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 1:53 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/cc-35-mark/6725242249.html





Poor boat needs a new owner :(







Joe Della Barba

Coquina

C 35 MK I




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Re: Stus-List Manual bilge

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

I have a 26’. The pump works but I have found that a long manual pump placed in 
the bilge itself with the outflow hose pointed into a nearby 5-gallon bucket 
was less (pumping) work and quicker. Having said that, hauling a five-gallon 
bucket (repeatedly) up the steps in order to dump it into the cockpit provides 
some serious weight lifting exercise. Plus, there is the imperative to not to 
slosh any of the brown water with dead wasps onto the galley area while 
ascending the ladder with the bucket.

Accordingly, choose your preferred form of exercise: outside repetitive arm 
movement or inside lower-back weight lifting.

Steve Staten
“C’ Est La Vie”
C 26’
Langley, Oklahoma
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Re: Stus-List C 26' or 27'?

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

As the owner of a 26’, I have to agree with everyone on all points. Granted, 
this is my first boat with no prior sailing experience on my part. I cannot 
speak with experience concerning the advantages of one size over another.

I CAN say that I would not care to spend a weekend sailing with more than one 
other adult-sized person in my boat. I just like my personal space, that’s all. 
I go sailing to get away from people.

Steve Staten
“C’ Est La Vie” 26’
Langley, Oklahoma
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Re: Stus-List C long time question

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

Hi all, I purchased C ’Est La Vie (C 26) seven years ago in 2011. The 
previous owner was Bob Montgomery who bought it in Detroit and loved it so much 
that he hauled it with him to Oklahoma.

Steve Staten
“C’ Est La Vie”
C 26
Langley, Oklahoma
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Re: Stus-List mystery item

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

OK, I’m just GUESSING but you have it upside down. It slides on a pipe and is 
used to hang your drink off the little clevis. The four nylon wheels will allow 
the drink to stay steady as the boat rocks. Did I win a prize?

Steve Staten
C’Est La Vie
C 26
Langley, OK USA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of T Smyth via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 2:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: T Smyth
Subject:  Stus-List mystery item


I’m trying to determine the use of an item I found on a recently purchased 1974 
C 30.

It’s probably obvious but I just can’t quite identify it.
See photo at
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bUs1Qcb3DdsuaFz89


Tks
Tom



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Re: Stus-List Grab rail replacement

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

OK, I’ll bite: I have been putting off replacing my rails too. They are in 
three pieces now. I like ‘Pretty’ but I love ‘Low-Maintenance’. That’s why I’m 
considering stainless steel rails.
The thing is, my wooden teak rails (what’s left of them), have wood screws, not 
threaded bolts. Do your stainless rails have wood screws?

Steve Staten
C’ Est La Vie
C 26’
Langley, OK, USA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 3:49 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject:  Re: Stus-List Grab rail replacement

Very standard teak grab handles.  Available at most chandlers.  I did away with 
my teak handles and had stainless made by 
whitewatermarine.com

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yd0UxdVVfWkEybjA

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

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Re: Stus-List CnC List problems...

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

Moi, aussi.

Steve Staten
“C’Est La Vie”, C 27
Langley, OKlahoma
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Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center"

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

This same scam operates for website domain names. The actual cost of renewing 
our domain name is about the same for registering your boat. The last fake 
invoice that we received was for ten times that amount with the usual “no 
obligation to pay” proviso. I call it a “Stupid Tax”. I imagine all sort of 
certifications that must be renewed are targeted. Beauty Salon operators, for 
instance, or tattoo parlors. If you hurry, you could get in on the ground floor 
scamming the recently-legalized marijuana growers.

Steve Staten
“C’Est La Vie”, C 27
Langley, OK

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 10:38 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center"

Just got my EARLY supposed Documentation Renewal from the "Maritime 
Documentation Center"

I think the USCG must have taken heed of all the complaints, as these people 
have really toned down their ‘Renewal’
There is no amount to pay, and now little bits in there like , This is a 
courtesy notice,  This is not an invoice,  you are under no obligation to pay, 
etc –
Things that were not in their notice in past years.

I am sure they will still snag some people who are either not paying attention, 
or are too busy to notice.

Bill Coleman
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Re: Stus-List Holiday wishes

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And Merry Christmas from the western edge of the Ozarks. We are expecting an 
inch of snow tonight but it will be all gone by Saturday afternoon.

Steve Staten
"C 'Est La Vie"
C 27
Grand Lake, Oklahoma
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Re: Stus-List To Rod Stright

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I got it as well.

Steve Staten
“C’Est La Vie”, C 27
Langley, OK USA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L. 
Wolford via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 2:00 PM
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Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject:  Re: Stus-List To Rod Stright

Got it.

From: Greg Sutherland via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 12:37 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Greg Sutherland ; 
Stu
Subject: Re: Stus-List To Rod Stright

I did Mike.
Greg

On Oct 22, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Persuasion37 via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Did everyone get this email.

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault


On Oct 22, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Stu via CnC-List 
> wrote:

Your email address bounced 2 messages from me.  Do you have another address?

Stu


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Re: Stus-List Re: Toe rail leak

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

I used Captain Tolley’s also and it cut rail leaking down A LOT. It’s not cheap 
unless you also calculate hours not spent taking off toe rails and putting them 
back on. Wear disposable  gloves too. It’s real sticky and dries to an 
unsightly dirty color not unlike milkweed sap.

Steve Staten
“C’est La Vie”
C 26
Langley, OK

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christian Planton via CnC-List 
> wrote:
I know my toe rail leaks in a couple of places. Has anybody redone the whole 
thing? If yes about how much time did it take you? I am going to try to tighten 
the bolts first. If that doesn't work I'm going to take out each bolt and try 
to get in there as much B-tape as possible and then tighten. Any other thoughts 
or suggestions?

Christian
Peer Gynt
1980 C 34
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Re: Stus-List Recharging a battery

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

Baking soda, acid and red food coloring is for putting in a little volcano made 
out of clay and wowing everyone in your third-grade science fair.

Steve Staten
“C’est La Vie” 26
Langley, OK, USA

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via CnC-List
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Recharging a battery

Don't do it!!. Baking soda will neutralize the acidaacid and kill the battery, 
along with a nice chemical reaction. I use baking soda and water mixed to clean 
dirty terminals on my car batteries.



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
Doug Mountjoy
POYC
Pegasus
Lf38

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Subject: Stus-List Recharging a battery

Has anyone tried the baking soda/epson salt method to recharge a dead battery?

Stu


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Re: Stus-List Cockpit Grating Question

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

I want to thank everyone for their constructive suggestions for fixing my 
grating. I should have asked a year ago. I will try to get registered on the 
photo album. I'm fond of "C'est La Vie" and happy to share pictures.
Steve Staten
"C'est La Vie"
26' C
Langley, OK, USA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina - 
gmail via CnC-List
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Cockpit Grating Question


Titebond III is water based for easy cleanup, and is waterproof when cured. You 
could also use epoxy as long as the joint will not be exposed to sunlight.

Bill Bina
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Stus-List Cockpit Grating Question

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

Good Morning, Everyone. I’m not a sailor but I own a boat and impersonate a 
sailor on rare occasions. I have a problem with my wooden cockpit grating. If 
it has a nautical name, I’m unaware. A few of the runners that keep the grating 
up and out of the water have come loose. They were glued on so I used Elmer’s 
Wood Glue to re-glue them, thinking that would be the end of the matter. After 
a half-hour of actual use, I was a wiser, sadder man. Is there a better glue 
that you can recommend? I would surely appreciate it.

Steve Staten
“C’est La Vie”
26’ C
Langley, OK, USA
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Re: Stus-List Prop Shaft coupling

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

Five years ago, on one of my first solo sails on C’est La Vie, I allowed a jib 
sheet to get overboard as I was motoring into the drowned ravine that is the 
marina, here on the reservoir. I was focused on maintaining course. The ravine 
is maybe 30 meters narrow, lined with expensive boats. The sheet and propeller 
became enamored of each other and in taking the relationship to the next level 
(the way snakes do), they managed to pull the propeller shaft free from the 
coupling and the Westerbeke’s transmission. The coupling is a large rubber 
donut about one inch thick and maybe eight inches in diameter. It was all 
chewed up BUT the shaft bearing was not leaking. The boat glided to a complete 
stop about 20 meters from the beginning of the dock.

I had not yet learned to scull so I dropped anchor and swam to shore with my 
phone and wallet in a ziplock bag on top of one of those square floating seat 
cushions pushed gently ahead of me.  It was a Sunday evening with no one around 
and the sun going down behind the trees. The next day, I returned to assess the 
damage. The temperature was in the mid-nineties (F) and the boat was a 
fiberglass sweat lodge. The largest washers available managed to keep enough of 
the torn parts of the coupler together in one piece to allow me to restart the 
engine and ease into my slip.  I was not yet a lister here and had NO idea how 
to replace the coupler.

In despair, I searched local roadsides for blown tires by the side of the road 
(with polyester cords, of course). I finally found a good candidate and 
fashioned a replacement coupler from the tread by dulling many box cutters. The 
bolt holes needed a rat tail file to enlarge the drilled holes.  The tire tread 
has performed just fine since then.

Steve Staten
C’Est La Vie
26’ C
Langley, OK, USA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of William 
Walker via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 3:17 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: wwadjo...@aol.com
Subject: Stus-List Prop Shaft coupling


Some may remember that around mid summer I posted that my prop shaft had pulled 
out of coupling.  Mine has two bolts which go through coupling and into small 
dimples drilled into shaft.  They were wired in and over time the ends had worn 
off and allowed shaft to pull out when reversed was applied to prop.  Some on 
list checked and had similar problems.  I was surprised so many
Well, on haul out I discover it has happened again, with the new bolts.  
Haven't pulled them yet to see, but shaft pulled enough to show key and the 
dimples, still in place.
No excessive vibration or anything.
Bolts still appear tight.
Thinking maybe of going with two set screws in each hole, one snugged, another 
on top.
Love to hear thoughts from listers with some experience.
Bill Walker
Evening Star
CNC 36
Pentwater, Michigan
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Re: Stus-List Stupid Reefing Mistake

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

OK, confession time: I was out on my second solo sail on my new-to-me C 26 
and there were whitecaps on the lake. I knew almost nothing about sailing and I 
was there to learn. Our marina is in a drowned ravine with steep cliffs so 
there's little wind until you clear the mouth. So, I'm putt-putting along with 
my smoky, one-cylinder Westerbeke, headed to the mouth of the ravine with full 
sails up and a guy yells from shore:

"Hey! You better reef that main before you go out there!"
"Reef That Main", I thought, "How quaint. How very nautical. I MUST look that 
up when I get home." I remember waving at him and smiling. Mind you, I wasn't a 
kid. I was 55 and just learning something new. 

So, I come out of the ravine on a broad reach and BAM! Instant sideways. Things 
are crashing below, the water is deep over the rail and pouring into the 
cockpit. I'm hanging on for dear life. In addition, there are cliffs to the 
leeward not far from the mouth of the ravine. Somehow, I headed it into the 
wind and ran forward to yank down the jib. It immediately blew into the water. 
Once done with the jib, the boat was swinging away again so I headed back and 
yanked down the main. 

It must have looked bad as I could see the boat of the guy who yelled at me 
getting underway in the ravine. Fortunately, I regained control of the boat 
before he reached the mouth. By running back and forth between the tiller and 
the main, I was able to get that sail reefed without knowing the name for it. 
With relief, I saw my would-be rescuer turn around and return to their slip. 

Nowadays, I'll reef on a dare. Just for the practice. 

Steve Staten
C' Est La Vie, C 26'
Langley, Oklahoma


Reef? What's a reef?

Rick Bushie
Anchovy, 1971 30-1, hull #1
Tolchester, Md.

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Re: Stus-List Darwins List

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

A captain wouldn’t do that but an owner sitting in an office might order a 
captain to do such a thing. Contracts with penalties for late delivery are 
serious things. After all, the Xmas shopping season is almost here.

I’m not a sailor. I simply bought my boat and sail it in a lake when the 
weather’s peachy. However, I have to ask: is it possible that the container 
ship either couldn’t turn around in time or that it was not safe in port? Any 
merchant mariners on the list?

Steve Staten
Langley, OK, USA
“C’est La Vie”
C 27

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 4:49 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject: Stus-List Darwins List


Who in their right mind would take a Container Ship, of all things, into a 
known, sitting Cat 4  Hurricane?

Container ship hit by Hurricane Joaquin lost, Coast Guard searching
http://weatherplus.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2015/10/02/container-ship-hit-by-hurricane-joaquin-lost-coast-guard-searching/



Bill Coleman
C 39 Erie, PA[cid:image001.gif@01D0FD34.DC727640]
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Re: Stus-List 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

It is almost impossible to leave negative feedback about any eBay purchase no 
matter how egregious the transaction. You simply won’t be allowed do it. Many 
frustrated buyers simply “plea-bargain” for Neutral so they can “move on”.

I bought a How-To manual for a computer game once and only the package that it 
was packed in arrived. The manila envelope had been reused from a previous 
purchase and resealed with what appeared to be pancake syrup (or KY). The 
seller begged me, “in the name of Our Lord Jesus”, not to give him/her neutral 
feedback. BAH!

Having said all that, I actually bought my CC 27 on eBay and love it. Now, if 
I can only stop the rain from leaking under the toe rails. The  Westerbeke had 
to have a crack welded too. Oh, and the balsa has to be replaced where the roof 
was cracked; cosmetic stuff, really.

Steve Staten
“C’est La Vie”
CC 27
Langley, OK

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Patrick 
Davin via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 4:22 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Patrick Davin
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

The great thing about the Internet is that scammers like this can run but they 
can't hide. You can find a lot about someone if you know how to look and they 
don't cover their tracks perfectly.

In this case the weak point is his phone number, which is basically a unique 
search key.

Tracing that it appears that he's a sailboat flipper of sorts. I found a 
previous ad with *identical* text in places (the ALL CAPS stuff about please be 
an informed bidder, 24 hours deposit required, etc).

He listed this Morgan Out Island 36 earlier this year, in Florida:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/INCREDIBLY-SPACIOUS-GLOBAL-CRUISER-by-famous-yacht-maker-No-Reserve-Aft-Cabin-/201335429823

Someone on cruisersforum noticed it, but there was no commentary on it (last 
post here): 
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f47/ebay-sailboat-scam-143861-2.html

Also a Cal 34 in Virginia which sold for $6.3k:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LAPWORTH-JENSEN-WORLD-CRUISER-For-Pennies-on-The-Dollar-NO-RESERVE-Xlnt-4-Couple-/201314971076

He has a neutral ebay review from a year+ ago which said:
caveat emptor. Boat was not ready to put in the water and sail
 for a listing of SERIOUS BLUE WATER OCEAN CRUISER No Res - New York City 
(#200361465706) which sold for $1425.

Oh and he flips motor boats too: 
http://www.boats4sale.pro/detail/us/OHnFCCdmndHnCeFCPHd/Rare-Opportunity-to-Own-a-20K-to-30K-SPORTS-CRUISER-w

The Morgan OI listing has surprisingly extensive dialogue from him. So at least 
he's a good writer and seller of the cruising dream.

Lots of gems in here which make me laugh:

Every boat is a project boat. However, some boats are more project than boat. 

Buying a boat like this Out Island is for someone who wants to get to know 
their vessel like a cowboy knows his horse and saddle and six gun or like a 
surgeon knows the tools and machines in the surgery room.

We adopt stray boats. We already have our own cruising sailboat and we don't 
need another for ourselves, but from experience and in our early cruising days 
before we were spending half our year directly in boat yards and marinas and 
exotic ports, we know how hard it is to find truly worth blue-water cruisers 
that can be purchased on a normal middle-class income. We are relatively young 
folks ourselves, and part of our passion is helping other young couples and 
families and middle class retired folks afford the cruising life-style. 

To purchase a boat where every single thing is already as it should be, would 
be a dis-service to the active sailor because it prevents you from getting to 
know how everything on your boat is set up and how it works.


I don't know if the Morgan OI sale was a scam, in the way that the LF38 listing 
is clearly a scam (since the salvage is not disclosed). It appears he actually 
knows his stuff, or at least enough to quote much of Nigel Calder and 
cruisersforum. But there's certainly a lot of spin and marketing in there!

-Patrick

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:24 PM, 
cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: August-21-15 17:11
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Danny Haughey
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay

you know the weird thing is that the Yacht Salvage ad still seems active and 
this guys ebay feedback goes back to 2001 with 100% positive...

Danny

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Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

I have a Google story:

My younger brother worked in shipyards all over the world. He fell at the one 
in Korea that is on an island off the eastern coast and ruptured his spleen. He 
came back to the US to recover and, instead, died in a motel in Texas. I was 
named administrator of his estate. Because his first ex-wife looted his motel 
room and storage unit, I had no idea of his friends, co-workers, professional 
contacts or the many girlfriends and children that he claimed to have scattered 
over the globe.

I only knew of one bank account (the local one). I needed info on all his 
financial resources so I could get them to my brother’s two legitimate children 
by his second ex-wife. The only possible source that might provide some answers 
was his GMail account. So, I contacted Google for access to it and they 
demanded all sorts of documents as you would expect; death certificates, court 
documents, my ID, etc. After “jumping through all their hoops”, they denied my 
request and said that I could not appeal it.  Their rationale was simply, “We 
value our customer’s privacy.” This is the value of human beings in a 
post-capitalist corporate economy. I hope all of Google’s management die 
anonymously as my brother did to the people that knew him.

Share or document your passwords so the folks who have to clean up after you 
can do just that. Above all, get a will.

Steve Staten
“C’ Est La Vie”
CC 27
Langley, OK

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:34 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic
Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10

I hope you don’t think that Apple (or Google, for that matter) is not 
collecting very similar information

From: S Thomas via CnC-Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:16 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: S Thomasmailto:sthom...@bellnet.ca
Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10

Sounds like Microsoft and the NSA are dancing the same waltz.
- Original Message -
From: Bill Coleman via CnC-Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Colemanmailto:colt...@verizon.net
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:22
Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10

Or this,


More than 14 million 
deviceshttp://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/30/windows-10-the-first-24-hours/?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter
 are already running Microsoft’s Windows 10 after its global 
launchhttp://www.newsweek.com/windows-10-features-upgrade-review-microsoft-358027
 on Wednesday, but it’s unclear how many of their users read the company’s 
Privacy Policyhttps://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx 
and Service 
Agreementhttps://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/servicesagreement/default.aspx 
before downloading. Tucked away in the 45 pages’ worth 
http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/07/29/wind-nos/ of terms and conditions 
(effective August 
1http://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2015/06/04/improving-the-microsoft-services-agreement-and-privacy-statement-for-consumers/)
 is a substantial power grab: The company is collecting data on much of what 
you do while using its new software.

From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company 
saves customers’ basic information—name, contact details, passwords, 
demographic data and credit card specifics —but it also digs a bit deeper.

Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and 
conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of 
private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including 
features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders. 
Furthermore, “your typed and handwritten words are collected,” the Privacy 
Statementhttps://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx says, 
which many online observers 
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/31/windows-10-microsoft-faces-criticism-over-privacy-default-settings
 liken to http://thehackernews.com/2014/10/download-Windows-10-keylogger.html 
a keyloggerhttps://twitter.com/XzeroPoint/status/625325931410751488. 
Microsoft says they collect the information “to provide you a personalized user 
dictionary, help you type and write on your device with better character 
recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type or write.”

All this information doesn’t necessarily remain with just Microsoft. The 
company sayshttps://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx it 
uses the data collected for three purposes: to provide and improve its 
services; to send customers personalized promotions; and to display targeted 
advertising, which sometimes requires the information be shared with third 
parties. Microsoft mentions that though it assigns each customer a unique 
advertising ID, which is fed data during computer usage, 

Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

I looked at the boat on eBay yesterday. I have suspicions that the offer is not 
serious or that the owner did not do their due diligence regarding advertising 
it on eBay.  The boat is not advertised in the proper category, Motors - Boats 
- Sailboats. Instead, it is advertised in Collectibles - Advertising 
Memorabilia - etc. That's not where I go to look at boats.

Also, most boats offered are accompanied by pictures designed to cause you to 
question your manhood and any past happiness because you do not own that 
particular boat. This boat in question has one old faded photo that looks like 
it came off part of a brochure. I don't think the owner is serious about 
selling it. 

Steve Staten
Langley, OK
C'est La Vie
CC 27
 

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Peter Fell 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 10:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Peter Fell
Subject: Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?

Darn  may not ship to Canada. It's always the case!


Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27 MkIII

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Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

No, I just looked at the eBay ad. I live quite far from there.

You are right about the possibility of next-of-kin being left with a mess to 
clean up. It wouldn’t surprise me to someday see a Gutenberg bible offered on 
eBay in ‘Pet Supplies’ with the bid starting at $1. I am just now wrapping up 
my mother’s and brother’s estates.  It had real moments of drudgery. My 
ex-sister-in-law thoughtfully looted my brother’s storage unit and tossed his 
valuable LP record collection in the dumpster.

Perhaps this boat wouldn’t fit in a dumpster…

Steve Staten
Langley, OK
C’Est La Vie
CC 27

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan 
Plavsa via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 5:07 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Stevan Plavsa
Subject: Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?

Steve, you looked at the boat in person, or you looked at the ad? I would hope 
you'd give us more info if you looked at the boat!

And you know, people die and family is left to deal with their things .. this 
could be that type of situation. Who knows.

Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto


On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Steve Staten via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
I looked at the boat on eBay yesterday. I have suspicions that the offer is not 
serious or that the owner did not do their due diligence regarding advertising 
it on eBay.  The boat is not advertised in the proper category, Motors - Boats 
- Sailboats. Instead, it is advertised in Collectibles - Advertising 
Memorabilia - etc. That's not where I go to look at boats.

Also, most boats offered are accompanied by pictures designed to cause you to 
question your manhood and any past happiness because you do not own that 
particular boat. This boat in question has one old faded photo that looks like 
it came off part of a brochure. I don't think the owner is serious about 
selling it.

Steve Staten
Langley, OK
C'est La Vie
CC 27


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Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 10:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Peter Fell
Subject: Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?
Darn  may not ship to Canada. It's always the case!


Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27 MkIII

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Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

I paid $4400 for my CC 27 on eBay in 2011. It had a couple of soft roof spots 
and the toe rails, handrails and genoa tracks all leak(ed) but I didn’t know it 
at the time. It’s still a  great boat. Down here in Flyover Country, fancy 
things sometimes sell cheap when the seller is in a hurry. As our economies 
circle the drain, there will be more such separation of the hobbyists from the 
hard-core sailors.

Steve Staten
Langley, Oklahoma
“C’ Est La Vie”

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nate 
Flesness via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:08 AM
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Subject: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAILBOAT-C-amp-C-LANDFALL-38-039-/131565358722?_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276

it says soft deck spot, but if thats all, yikes...

Nate


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Re: Stus-List LCDI VS ELCI

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

I was in Paraguay last April and the shower head in an old hotel in Conception 
had an electrical heating element in it. The electrical wires going to it 
exited the same hole in the wall that the water pipe came from. It was scary 
looking. I took a picture of it.

Steve Staten
CC 26, C'est La Vie
Langley, OKlahoma

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List LCDI VS ELCI

Ha!  There's a marina down in Mexico here with 120V AC plugs
(unprotected) in all the showers.  Go figure.  VBG  The showers are big 
enough for two, but really I think any toy you want to use in the shower should 
be battery operated.

Wal

(P.S. That's the same marina that blew up my battery charger by rewiring a dock 
box -- destroyed by electrical fire -- while the entire AC leg on the dock was 
live.)


you wrote:
 snip I have seen every method of incorrect wire connection possible. 
 Even putting a light switch in the shower, really, in the shower, 
 behind the shower curtain.


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Re: Stus-List CC 29 for sale in Portsmouth, VA

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

I only paid $4,400 for my 1976 CC 26 three years ago. The interior is good. 
Cushions are clean. The electrical system works. The water jacket on the Vire 
engine needed welding.  The seller was motivated and put it on eBay. However, 
the many cracks in the cabin roof causes leaks that are only now being 
repaired. The toe rail leaks in places too.  

Steve Staten
C'est La Vie CC 26
Grand Lake
Langley, OK

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Lee 
Youngblood via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:39 PM
To: Rick Brass; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 29 for sale in Portsmouth, VA

I don't know anything about that boat, but they are killing us with that low 
price!




Is anyone on the list familiar with a 1983 CC 29, called Arias, 
that is in the Portsmouth/Norfolk/Hampton area?

I have a friend who is looking for a boat, as you may recall, and 
I've pretty much sold her on buying a CC between 29 and 35 feet. 
Arias is listed on Craigslist right now, and my friend is taken with 
what she can see in the photos. I've been asked to find out more 
about the boat and arrange a trip to look at her.

I figured someone in the CC fraternity might be able to give me a 
little bit of history about the boat.

http://norfolk.craigslist.org/boa/4756271361.htmlhttp://norfolk.craigslist.org/boa/4756271361.html

Thanks for the help.

Rick Brass
Imzadi  CC 38 mk 2
la Belle Aurore CC 25 mk1
Washington, NC


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Re: Stus-List teak grab rail help 35 MK I

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

My little 1977 26 footer also has inside and outside teak rails joined to one 
another  with brass screws through the headliner. I’ll have to replace one or 
both of the outsider rails soon as one of them snapped off in my hand the other 
day.

Steve Staten
C’est La Vie, CC26
Grand Lake
Langley, OK


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Joe, I know the 30-1 isn't the same boat but Anchovy's grab rails are wood 
screwed from inside the cabin THROUGH the cabin grab rails.

Rick Bushie
Anchovy 30-1
Worton Creek, MD
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

I had the same thing happen a couple of years ago. I was sailing alone and a 
sheet from the jib got overboard as I was motoring back to my slip. A loud 
noise ensued and I came to a slow stop with the engine running. The sheet had 
rolled up the propeller shaft to the hull and in continuing, pulled the shaft 
free from the rubber coupler that connects the propeller shaft to the 
transmission. I wouldn't have thought that a single-cylinder Westerbeke gas 
engine could have been so powerful as to rip up an nine inch diameter, one inch 
thick rubber coupler without stopping. Not having access to a replacement, I 
eventually had to construct one out of a polyester-threaded tire tread. 
Creating the bolt holes was a challenge. It has worked just fine these past 
three years and I always mind the sheets now.
Steve
C'est La Vie
CC 27

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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 8:42 AM
To: bria...@aol.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44

Similar problem over weekend.  Engine alarm and then shut off.  Apaprently 
engine restarted ok but no more fwsd or reverse.  Then the line that had fallen 
over the side was noticed with one end attached to boat and other wrapped 
firmly around shaft.  Shaft seems pulled back approx. one inch.  Transmission 
seems to be spinning but not shaft.  Hope to find out today if simple fix or a 
time consuming expensive one.  Was a lot of pressure on boat end of line so 
worried also about shaft and strut.  Hauling boat to repair.  3GM30

Mike
Persistence
Frers 33

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Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on CC 44

Jon,

This might sound to easy, but could you have wrapped something around the prop 
shaft?

I had a similar sounding experience when a piece of heavy line wrapped around 
the shaft. Had to clear it with a dive knife (took about 2 hours, working with 
a flashlight) then restarted the engine and all was fine. I was bringing the 
boat up from Florida, and it happened in southern N.C., so I ran it for many 
hours after without any issues.

Bill

MYSTY

In a message dated 9/8/2014 9:11:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
jonbooc...@gmail.commailto:jonbooc...@gmail.com writes:
loud screeching noise for 1/2 second, followed by a big bang and shudder and 
engine stopped
seems to be seized hard
could be transmission let go and then something jammed and instantly stopped 
the engine, going about 2800 rpm


On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:08 AM, bria...@aol.commailto:bria...@aol.com wrote:
Jon,

What went bang? Have you any idea of what failed?

Bill

MYSTY
Landfall 39 (also has a 4JH-TE)
Virginia

In a message dated 9/8/2014 9:04:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com writes:
The Yanmar 4JH-TE on our CC 44 went bang on the weekend. It was the last thing 
on the boat that hadn't been replaced so in some ways it is a relief to replace 
it. It is unclear whether we will go new or remanufactured at this point.
I have been appalled in the past at Canadian pricing on Yanmar parts and I 
suspect complete engines would be the same. Nonetheless I will probably get a 
quote from a Canadian dealer.
Who in the US would be recommended to get a quote from? We were happy with Bay 
Shore Marine on our way through Annapolis, does anyone have experience buying a 
complete engine from them?
Is there compatibility with engine mounts , exhaust etc between the various 
Yanmar models?
(4JH, 4JH2, 4JH3, 4JH4, 4JH5)
If so this could open up the number of potential replacements.
For remanufactured Schooner Bay Imports (Al Holzer) in WI seems to be highly 
recommended.
Our current model is 56 hp but I think anything above 46 hp would be sufficient 
so the non turbocharged versions would work fine and of course the more recent 
non turbo versions have the same or higher horsepower.
Any guidance on who to contact based on your experience would be appreciated.
Thanks, Jon

CC 44 - (right now a big, heavy dinghy)
Mor' Childs Play
Kingston ON



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