Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Michael Cotton via CnC-List
 Very well put!

On Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 7:05:29 PM EST, Matthew L. Wolford via 
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:  
 
 Thanks for clarifying things, Bill – and sorry for apparently causing 
exasperation. Time to beat the dead horse: For those who understand what’s 
going on, it is not that complicated.  For those who do not, it is both 
complicated and confusing.  For example, your interpretation of the first 
bulleted sentence in the advertisement (or whatever it is) is based on your 
insight.  Frankly, if BoatUS meant to say a boat owner must not display State 
registration numbers on a federally documented boat, it should just say so.  
Instead, the ad – entitled “Boat Documentation Requirements” – initially 
suggests that a boat should be “identified” on the exterior of the hull as 
either State registered or federally documented, but not both.  This itself is 
confusing because it mixes apples and oranges (titling and registration).  
Moreover, a boat owner cannot use BoatUS graphics to “identify” a boat as 
either State registered or federally documented on the exterior of the hull.  A 
critical reader will discover several bullets later that a federal document 
number must be placed on the interior of the boat.  A less informed boater 
could easily conclude that a boat must be “identified” by its federal or State 
number somewhere on the exterior – using BoatUS graphics, of course. The ad 
concludes by noting: “Federal Vessel Documentation is a federal issue and is 
not open to enforcement or interpretation by the state.”  No legal advice 
there. From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 
12:04 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Bina - gmail Subject: Re: Stus-List 
Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation 
This is true in all 50 states because it is a FEDERAL law. What the sentence 
means is that the boat must not display state registration numbers if it is 
documented. That is what they mean by "identified". This is not to say that 
states cannot require you to register the boat. They just cannot require a 
visible state registration number. They CAN display a sticker indicating that 
state fees and taxes have been paid. That is not a registration number. I live 
in Connecticut. My boat is Federally Documented and also registered in CT. The 
markings on the boat are the name, hailing port and a small sticker from the 
state that shows taxes and fees are current. Federal Documentation is the title 
for the boat, and Connecticut uses my Doc number as the registration number on 
the paperwork. No state is arguing about this, as it works just fine for all 
concerned, and has for a long time. Most, but not all, states require a state 
registration for Federally Documented boats. This is not a problem for anybody 
involved. People seem to tie themselves in knots over this. It is not even 
slightly complicated. BoatUS is not practicing law without a license, or 
drawing their own conclusions. They are just stating the laws as they plainly 
exist on the books.


Bill Bina


On 2/7/2018 11:40 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote:

   I reviewed the first two bullet points from the BoatUS recital, and at least 
in PA they are not (or may not) be correct:
   - Vessels may only be identified as either a State Registered Vessel or a 
Federally Documented Vessel - NOT BOTH. 
     Not true in PA.  There is a difference between titling and registration.  
In PA, Federally documented boats are not required to be titled under the PA 
Fish and Boat Code (and, I believe, cannot be State titled).  However, they 
must be registered.  This change was made to the State statute in the 1990s and 
became effective on March 1, 1998.  Under the old requirements, federally 
documented boats were exempt from State registration.  Under the new 
requirements, federally documented boats used for recreational purpose must be 
registered.  As far as I know, no one has challenged this scheme, and I doubt a 
court would conclude that State registration requirements are preempted because 
they are help the State keep track of boats and are not in conflict with 
federal law regarding documentation.
   - When a vessel becomes federally Documented, the State Registration Numbers 
and Letters must be removed. 
     This I don’t know, but I suspect BoatUS is correct.  The reason is that 
federal law has requirements about how a federally documented boat must be 
identified.  To get around this issue, the PA Fish and Boat Commission requires 
decals (not State registration numbers) to be placed on the boat.  Most 
sailboat owners place the decal on the mast.       As we discussed in a 
previous thread about this issue, this is a complicated and unclear area of law 
which, not surprisingly, the U.S. Supreme Court has not addressed.  BoatUS 
would be wise not to give legal advice in promoting the 

Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Thanks for clarifying things, Bill – and sorry for apparently causing 
exasperation.

Time to beat the dead horse:

For those who understand what’s going on, it is not that complicated.  For 
those who do not, it is both complicated and confusing.  For example, your 
interpretation of the first bulleted sentence in the advertisement (or whatever 
it is) is based on your insight.  Frankly, if BoatUS meant to say a boat owner 
must not display State registration numbers on a federally documented boat, it 
should just say so.  Instead, the ad – entitled “Boat Documentation 
Requirements” – initially suggests that a boat should be “identified” on the 
exterior of the hull as either State registered or federally documented, but 
not both.  This itself is confusing because it mixes apples and oranges 
(titling and registration).  Moreover, a boat owner cannot use BoatUS graphics 
to “identify” a boat as either State registered or federally documented on the 
exterior of the hull.  A critical reader will discover several bullets later 
that a federal document number must be placed on the interior of the boat.  A 
less informed boater could easily conclude that a boat must be “identified” by 
its federal or State number somewhere on the exterior – using BoatUS graphics, 
of course.

The ad concludes by noting: “Federal Vessel Documentation is a federal issue 
and is not open to enforcement or interpretation by the state.”  No legal 
advice there.

From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 12:04 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Bill Bina - gmail 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat 
Documentation

This is true in all 50 states because it is a FEDERAL law. What the sentence 
means is that the boat must not display state registration numbers if it is 
documented. That is what they mean by "identified". This is not to say that 
states cannot require you to register the boat. They just cannot require a 
visible state registration number. They CAN display a sticker indicating that 
state fees and taxes have been paid. That is not a registration number. I live 
in Connecticut. My boat is Federally Documented and also registered in CT. The 
markings on the boat are the name, hailing port and a small sticker from the 
state that shows taxes and fees are current. Federal Documentation is the title 
for the boat, and Connecticut uses my Doc number as the registration number on 
the paperwork. No state is arguing about this, as it works just fine for all 
concerned, and has for a long time. Most, but not all, states require a state 
registration for Federally Documented boats. This is not a problem for anybody 
involved. People seem to tie themselves in knots over this. It is not even 
slightly complicated. BoatUS is not practicing law without a license, or 
drawing their own conclusions. They are just stating the laws as they plainly 
exist on the books.


Bill Bina




On 2/7/2018 11:40 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote:

  I reviewed the first two bullet points from the BoatUS recital, and at least 
in PA they are not (or may not) be correct:
a.. Vessels may only be identified as either a State Registered Vessel or a 
Federally Documented Vessel - NOT BOTH. 
  Not true in PA.  There is a difference between titling and registration.  
In PA, Federally documented boats are not required to be titled under the PA 
Fish and Boat Code (and, I believe, cannot be State titled).  However, they 
must be registered.  This change was made to the State statute in the 1990s and 
became effective on March 1, 1998.  Under the old requirements, federally 
documented boats were exempt from State registration.  Under the new 
requirements, federally documented boats used for recreational purpose must be 
registered.  As far as I know, no one has challenged this scheme, and I doubt a 
court would conclude that State registration requirements are preempted because 
they are help the State keep track of boats and are not in conflict with 
federal law regarding documentation.
a.. When a vessel becomes federally Documented, the State Registration 
Numbers and Letters must be removed. 
  This I don’t know, but I suspect BoatUS is correct.  The reason is that 
federal law has requirements about how a federally documented boat must be 
identified.  To get around this issue, the PA Fish and Boat Commission requires 
decals (not State registration numbers) to be placed on the boat.  Most 
sailboat owners place the decal on the mast.

  As we discussed in a previous thread about this issue, this is a 
complicated and unclear area of law which, not surprisingly, the U.S. Supreme 
Court has not addressed.  BoatUS would be wise not to give legal advice in 
promoting the sale of graphics.







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Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I meant to add that you’re a good one – definitely a compliment.

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 12:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat 
Documentation

I’m not sure if that’s a compliment or not…   :^) 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sea%20lawyer

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


  On Feb 7, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  You really are a sea lawyer. 




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Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
It's a compliment, wear it proudly!

 

 


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To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net>
Sent: Wed, Feb 7, 2018 12:04 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat 
Documentation


I’m not sure if that’s a compliment or not…   :^)


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sea%20lawyer


— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(



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You really are a sea lawyer. 




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Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Fairly good analysis, Matthew

As a 30 year regulatory professional, terminology is critical.

Documented and registered are two entirely different concepts.

USCG "documentation" is a very formal thing.  It is analogous to placing
the mortgage for your house with a clerk of court.  All liens, actions,
ownership changes, etc. are documented through the USCG.  If you haven't
already, order an abstract of title from the USCG Documentation Center.
The abstract will show every legal action taken against the vessel since it
was documented.

Touche's abstract shows five owners, a lien for $62,400, and a couple other
things.  Interesting history.

On the other hand, state "registration" is often a money grab by most
states.  Usually it's required for any powered vessel over 16 feet (give or
take).  As Matthew said, many states require a decal to show that the
periodic registration fees have been paid.  Displaying a fee decal does not
conflict with the federal numbering regulations.  In Louisiana, there is no
exemption for documented vessels to forego the display of the state
registration numbers.  However, my impression is that enforcement of the
requirement is "soft".  I have a laminated placard that I can place in a
window that shows the Louisiana registration number.  I keep the current
fee decal in the boat's log.  No issue so far.

As a further note, when I registered Touche' with Louisiana, Touche's
pre-1972 HIN did not conform to the 12 digit format so they issued a new
vessel hull identification number.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Feb 7, 2018 9:41 AM, "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I reviewed the first two bullet points from the BoatUS recital, and at
least in PA they are not (or may not) be correct:

   - Vessels may only be identified as either a State Registered Vessel or
   a Federally Documented Vessel - NOT BOTH.

Not true in PA.  There is a difference between titling and
registration.  In PA, Federally documented boats are not required to be
titled under the PA Fish and Boat Code (and, I believe, cannot be State
titled).  However, they must be registered.  This change was made to the
State statute in the 1990s and became effective on March 1, 1998.  Under
the old requirements, federally documented boats were exempt from State
registration.  Under the new requirements, federally documented boats used
for recreational purpose must be registered.  As far as I know, no one has
challenged this scheme, and I doubt a court would conclude that State
registration requirements are preempted because they are help the State
keep track of boats and are not in conflict with federal law regarding
documentation.

   - When a vessel becomes federally Documented, the State Registration
   Numbers and Letters must be removed.

This I don’t know, but I suspect BoatUS is correct.  The reason is that
federal law has requirements about how a federally documented boat must be
identified.  To get around this issue, the PA Fish and Boat Commission
requires decals (not State registration numbers) to be placed on the boat.
Most sailboat owners place the decal on the mast.

As we discussed in a previous thread about this issue, this is a
complicated and unclear area of law which, not surprisingly, the U.S.
Supreme Court has not addressed.  BoatUS would be wise not to give legal
advice in promoting the sale of graphics.

*From:* Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:22 AM
*To:* C List 
*Cc:* Bruce Whitmore 
*Subject:* Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat
Documentation

Hello All,

Given the discussion that came up the other day regarding boat
documentation, you may want to see the link below posted by Boat U.S.

Boat Documentation Requirements - BoatUS Graphics


Boat Documentation Requirements - BoatUS Graphics
Find all boat documentation requirements whether your boat is state or
federally documented.


While not authoritative in & of itself, it might cause local law
enforcement to pause and rethink if they ever pull you over because you
don't have state numbers displayed on your boat.

At least in Florida, this does not eliminate the need to display the state
registration sticker.

Hoping you find this helpful,

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

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Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
This is true in all 50 states because it is a FEDERAL law. What the 
sentence means is that the boat must not display state registration 
numbers if it is documented. That is what they mean by "identified". 
This is not to say that states cannot require you to register the boat. 
They just cannot require a visible state registration number. They CAN 
display a sticker indicating that state fees and taxes have been paid. 
That is not a registration number. I live in Connecticut. My boat is 
Federally Documented and also registered in CT. The markings on the boat 
are the name, hailing port and a small sticker from the state that shows 
taxes and fees are current. Federal Documentation is the title for the 
boat, and Connecticut uses my Doc number as the registration number on 
the paperwork. No state is arguing about this, as it works just fine for 
all concerned, and has for a long time. Most, but not all, states 
require a state registration for Federally Documented boats. This is not 
a problem for anybody involved. People seem to tie themselves in knots 
over this. It is not even slightly complicated. BoatUS is not practicing 
law without a license, or drawing their own conclusions. They are just 
stating the laws as they plainly exist on the books.


Bill Bina


On 2/7/2018 11:40 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote:
I reviewed the first two bullet points from the BoatUS recital, and at 
least in PA they are not (or may not) be correct:


  * Vessels may only be identified as either a State Registered Vessel
or a Federally Documented Vessel - NOT BOTH.

Not true in PA.  There is a difference between titling and 
registration.  In PA, Federally documented boats are not required to 
be titled under the PA Fish and Boat Code (and, I believe, cannot be 
State titled).  However, they must be registered.  This change was 
made to the State statute in the 1990s and became effective on March 
1, 1998.  Under the old requirements, federally documented boats were 
exempt from State registration.  Under the new requirements, federally 
documented boats used for recreational purpose must be registered.  As 
far as I know, no one has challenged this scheme, and I doubt a court 
would conclude that State registration requirements are preempted 
because they are help the State keep track of boats and are not in 
conflict with federal law regarding documentation.


  * When a vessel becomes federally Documented, the State Registration
Numbers and Letters must be removed.

    This I don’t know, but I suspect BoatUS is correct.  The reason is 
that federal law has requirements about how a federally documented 
boat must be identified.  To get around this issue, the PA Fish and 
Boat Commission requires decals (not State registration numbers) to be 
placed on the boat.  Most sailboat owners place the decal on the mast.
    As we discussed in a previous thread about this issue, this is a 
complicated and unclear area of law which, not surprisingly, the U.S. 
Supreme Court has not addressed.  BoatUS would be wise not to give 
legal advice in promoting the sale of graphics.




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Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
I’m not sure if that’s a compliment or not…   :^)

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sea%20lawyer 


— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Feb 7, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> You really are a sea lawyer. 

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Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Good catch, Fred.  But my boat is identified as both State registered and 
Federally documented.  I have State registered decals port and starboard and no 
numbers on the bow (State requirement), and the name of the boat and hailing 
port in 4 inch letters on the transom (federal requirement).  If I were merely 
State titled and registered, the numbers would be on the bow.

It’s still a good catch.  You really are a sea lawyer.  

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 11:47 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat 
Documentation

Matthew — as the BoatUS article is talking about graphics, I read the line in 
question below (“vessel may only be identified…”) to mean that the vessel 
should adhere to either state labeling standards if NOT documented, or federal 
labeling standards if it IS documented. 

So you should NOT have bow numbers on a documented vessel.

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


  On Feb 7, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  I reviewed the first two bullet points from the BoatUS recital, and at least 
in PA they are not (or may not) be correct:
a.. Vessels may only be identified as either a State Registered Vessel or a 
Federally Documented Vessel - NOT BOTH.
  Not true in PA.  There is a difference between titling and registration.  
In PA, Federally documented boats are not required to be titled under the PA 
Fish and Boat Code (and, I believe, cannot be State titled).  However, they 
must be registered.  This change was made to the State statute in the 1990s and 
became effective on March 1, 1998.  Under the old requirements, federally 
documented boats were exempt from State registration.  Under the new 
requirements, federally documented boats used for recreational purpose must be 
registered.  As far as I know, no one has challenged this scheme, and I doubt a 
court would conclude that State registration requirements are preempted because 
they are help the State keep track of boats and are not in conflict with 
federal law regarding documentation.
a.. When a vessel becomes federally Documented, the State Registration 
Numbers and Letters must be removed.
  This I don’t know, but I suspect BoatUS is correct.  The reason is that 
federal law has requirements about how a federally documented boat must be 
identified.  To get around this issue, the PA Fish and Boat Commission requires 
decals (not State registration numbers) to be placed on the boat.  Most 
sailboat owners place the decal on the mast.

  As we discussed in a previous thread about this issue, this is a 
complicated and unclear area of law which, not surprisingly, the U.S. Supreme 
Court has not addressed.  BoatUS would be wise not to give legal advice in 
promoting the sale of graphics.




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Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Matthew — as the BoatUS article is talking about graphics, I read the line in 
question below (“vessel may only be identified…”) to mean that the vessel 
should adhere to either state labeling standards if NOT documented, or federal 
labeling standards if it IS documented.

So you should NOT have bow numbers on a documented vessel.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Feb 7, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I reviewed the first two bullet points from the BoatUS recital, and at least 
> in PA they are not (or may not) be correct:
> Vessels may only be identified as either a State Registered Vessel or a 
> Federally Documented Vessel - NOT BOTH.
> Not true in PA.  There is a difference between titling and registration.  
> In PA, Federally documented boats are not required to be titled under the PA 
> Fish and Boat Code (and, I believe, cannot be State titled).  However, they 
> must be registered.  This change was made to the State statute in the 1990s 
> and became effective on March 1, 1998.  Under the old requirements, federally 
> documented boats were exempt from State registration.  Under the new 
> requirements, federally documented boats used for recreational purpose must 
> be registered.  As far as I know, no one has challenged this scheme, and I 
> doubt a court would conclude that State registration requirements are 
> preempted because they are help the State keep track of boats and are not in 
> conflict with federal law regarding documentation.
> When a vessel becomes federally Documented, the State Registration Numbers 
> and Letters must be removed.
> This I don’t know, but I suspect BoatUS is correct.  The reason is that 
> federal law has requirements about how a federally documented boat must be 
> identified.  To get around this issue, the PA Fish and Boat Commission 
> requires decals (not State registration numbers) to be placed on the boat.  
> Most sailboat owners place the decal on the mast.
>  
> As we discussed in a previous thread about this issue, this is a 
> complicated and unclear area of law which, not surprisingly, the U.S. Supreme 
> Court has not addressed.  BoatUS would be wise not to give legal advice in 
> promoting the sale of graphics.

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Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I reviewed the first two bullet points from the BoatUS recital, and at least in 
PA they are not (or may not) be correct:
  a.. Vessels may only be identified as either a State Registered Vessel or a 
Federally Documented Vessel - NOT BOTH.
Not true in PA.  There is a difference between titling and registration.  
In PA, Federally documented boats are not required to be titled under the PA 
Fish and Boat Code (and, I believe, cannot be State titled).  However, they 
must be registered.  This change was made to the State statute in the 1990s and 
became effective on March 1, 1998.  Under the old requirements, federally 
documented boats were exempt from State registration.  Under the new 
requirements, federally documented boats used for recreational purpose must be 
registered.  As far as I know, no one has challenged this scheme, and I doubt a 
court would conclude that State registration requirements are preempted because 
they are help the State keep track of boats and are not in conflict with 
federal law regarding documentation.
  a.. When a vessel becomes federally Documented, the State Registration 
Numbers and Letters must be removed.
This I don’t know, but I suspect BoatUS is correct.  The reason is that 
federal law has requirements about how a federally documented boat must be 
identified.  To get around this issue, the PA Fish and Boat Commission requires 
decals (not State registration numbers) to be placed on the boat.  Most 
sailboat owners place the decal on the mast.

As we discussed in a previous thread about this issue, this is a 
complicated and unclear area of law which, not surprisingly, the U.S. Supreme 
Court has not addressed.  BoatUS would be wise not to give legal advice in 
promoting the sale of graphics.

From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:22 AM
To: C List 
Cc: Bruce Whitmore 
Subject: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat 
Documentation

Hello All,

Given the discussion that came up the other day regarding boat documentation, 
you may want to see the link below posted by Boat U.S.

Boat Documentation Requirements - BoatUS Graphics



 
   
 Boat Documentation Requirements - BoatUS Graphics
  Find all boat documentation requirements whether your boat is 
state or federally documented.  
   
 


While not authoritative in & of itself, it might cause local law enforcement to 
pause and rethink if they ever pull you over because you don't have state 
numbers displayed on your boat.  



At least in Florida, this does not eliminate the need to display the state 
registration sticker.



Hoping you find this helpful,

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net




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