Re: Stus-List Sails for C&C 24

[Marek Fluder via CnC-List]

Doug,
I am no expert by all means, but I used to have C&C24 and I think it is
tender boat in comparison to 25.
I usually sailed short handed or alone, no racing, and found using 110% way
more then 150 (both came with the boat).
Just my 2 cents...

Marek
C320, Hamilton ON


On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Doug,
>
>
>
> My experience with a 110% Lapper on my 25 mk1 is similar to Chuck’s. The
> sail never sees the light of day unless the wind is above about 20 true and
> the main has at least one reef. Given that I sail in North Carolina, you
> can read that as “almost never”. I also have a storm jib for the boat, and
> that sail was flown once in Delaware Bay many years ago, and once or twice
> just to practice putting it up.
>
>
>
> I suspect anything smaller than the 135 you mentioned that you have would
> have limited value unless you sail in San Francisco Bay.
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> *Imzadi  *C&C 38 mk 2
>
> *la Belle Aurore *C&C 25 mk1
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
> Gilchrest via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 01, 2017 2:28 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Chuck Gilchrest 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sails for C&C 24
>
>
>
> Doug,
>
> I think it matters where you sail and how much weight you can put on the
> rail.  I had a 1975 25 and carried a 150, 125, and 100% but we sail in
> Buzzards Bay in Massachusetts where we get short steep chop.  As such, the
> 100% didn’t get much use since it wouldn’t drive the boat through the waves
> as effectively as sailing with the 125 and putting a single reef in the
> main.  I generally only used the 100% when the wind got up above 23-25kts
> and then with a double reef in the main.
>
> Chuck Gilchrest
>
> Half Magic
>
> 1983 35 Landfall  (formerly 1975 25 Mk 1)
>
> Padanaram, MA
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Doug Ellmore via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:48 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Doug Ellmore 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Sails for C&C 24
>
>
>
> Anyone have experience with a 100% for a C&C 24?
>
>
>
> I have a 155, 150, 135 and small storm jib.  I was thinking of a 100-110%
> could be useful for the sail arsenal.
>
>
>
> Doug
>
> s/v Red Sky
>
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Re: Stus-List Sails for C&C 24

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Doug,

 

My experience with a 110% Lapper on my 25 mk1 is similar to Chuck’s. The sail 
never sees the light of day unless the wind is above about 20 true and the main 
has at least one reef. Given that I sail in North Carolina, you can read that 
as “almost never”. I also have a storm jib for the boat, and that sail was 
flown once in Delaware Bay many years ago, and once or twice just to practice 
putting it up.

 

I suspect anything smaller than the 135 you mentioned that you have would have 
limited value unless you sail in San Francisco Bay.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck 
Gilchrest via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 2:28 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails for C&C 24

 

Doug,

I think it matters where you sail and how much weight you can put on the rail.  
I had a 1975 25 and carried a 150, 125, and 100% but we sail in Buzzards Bay in 
Massachusetts where we get short steep chop.  As such, the 100% didn’t get much 
use since it wouldn’t drive the boat through the waves as effectively as 
sailing with the 125 and putting a single reef in the main.  I generally only 
used the 100% when the wind got up above 23-25kts and then with a double reef 
in the main.

Chuck Gilchrest

Half Magic

1983 35 Landfall  (formerly 1975 25 Mk 1)

Padanaram, MA

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Doug Ellmore 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:48 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: Doug Ellmore mailto:d...@ellmore.net> >
Subject: Stus-List Sails for C&C 24

 

Anyone have experience with a 100% for a C&C 24?

 

I have a 155, 150, 135 and small storm jib.  I was thinking of a 100-110% could 
be useful for the sail arsenal. 

 

Doug

s/v Red Sky

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Re: Stus-List Sails for C&C 24

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I had a 135% on a furler (on my ex C&C 24) and fairly regularly sailed with it 
reefed to about 100% (or even less). It worked quite well. I guess it all 
depends how much excitement you want to provide your crew and the guests.

Marek
Ex. 1974 C&C 24 “Fennel”
Ottawa

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Doug Ellmore 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:48
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Doug Ellmore 
Subject: Stus-List Sails for C&C 24

Anyone have experience with a 100% for a C&C 24?

I have a 155, 150, 135 and small storm jib.  I was thinking of a 100-110% could 
be useful for the sail arsenal.

Doug
s/v Red Sky
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Re: Stus-List Sails for C&C 24

[Doug Ellmore via CnC-List]

Chuck,

 Frequently in the Chesapeake Bay we get similar conditions.  We sail short
handed and with 4 total.

Good feedback,

Doug


Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails for C&C 24

Doug,

I think it matters where you sail and how much weight you can put on the
rail.  I had a 1975 25 and carried a 150, 125, and 100% but we sail in
Buzzards Bay in Massachusetts where we get short steep chop.  As such, the
100% didn’t get much use since it wouldn’t drive the boat through the waves
as effectively as sailing with the 125 and putting a single reef in the
main.  I generally only used the 100% when the wind got up above 23-25kts
and then with a double reef in the main.

Chuck Gilchrest

Half Magic

1983 35 Landfall  (formerly 1975 25 Mk 1)

Padanaram, MA
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Re: Stus-List Sails for C&C 24

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Doug,

I think it matters where you sail and how much weight you can put on the rail.  
I had a 1975 25 and carried a 150, 125, and 100% but we sail in Buzzards Bay in 
Massachusetts where we get short steep chop.  As such, the 100% didn’t get much 
use since it wouldn’t drive the boat through the waves as effectively as 
sailing with the 125 and putting a single reef in the main.  I generally only 
used the 100% when the wind got up above 23-25kts and then with a double reef 
in the main.

Chuck Gilchrest

Half Magic

1983 35 Landfall  (formerly 1975 25 Mk 1)

Padanaram, MA

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Doug Ellmore 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:48 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Doug Ellmore 
Subject: Stus-List Sails for C&C 24

 

Anyone have experience with a 100% for a C&C 24?

 

I have a 155, 150, 135 and small storm jib.  I was thinking of a 100-110% could 
be useful for the sail arsenal. 

 

Doug

s/v Red Sky

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Re: Stus-List Sails for sale

[Kevin Paxton via CnC-List]

Throwing this back out there in case anyone missed it.

The prices are negotiable. I listed the price that Bacon's would sell it
for. They have a 50% fee so I would have only gotten half of that.

Thanks

Kevin Paxton
'82 34 #473
Japhys Spirit
Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 8:12 PM Kevin Paxton  wrote:

> If anyone was interested in seeing pictures of the sails I listed the
> other day.
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByfhZSW8NL8BLXZfcjhMYXZodms
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 9:54 PM Kevin Paxton  wrote:
>
> Thanks Chuck.
>
> If anyone is interested I am trying to get rid of 2 of the headsails of
> the 5 that I got with the purchase of our '81 34. I recently took them all
> to Bacons Sails in annapolis to help me sort out what I should keep and
> what I should consign or trash. These are the 2 that they said they could
> try to consign if I chose to do so.
>
> The first is a Mylar Racing #1 (~150% for an I of 14'). Very good
> condition. There is a little bit of moisture starting in some of the
> stitching and Bacons suggested that I try to get it cleaned and sealed if I
> were to keep it. I really liked this sail but it's a bit too large for the
> roller furling I have on board. I don't want to have to hank on a sail this
> large every time we go out either.
> Measurements: 43' 8" x 42' x 22' 4"
> 3/16" luff tape
> Bacons said they would probably consign it at ~950-1000.
>
> I also have a lightweight Genoa (~140% for an I of 14') that has writings
> on it suggesting it was new in '79. Bacons said it was approximately 4oz
> Dacron.
> Measurements: 43' 11"x 40' 4" x 22'
> 3/16" luff tape.
> No suncover.
> some stains, but still in decent shape.
> Bacons would consign for ~400-600.
>
> Like mentioned above, both have a 3/16" luff tape so they will work with a
> roller furling foil. However, they were too long to actually be used with
> mine, which is why I am parting ways with them.
>
> The previous owner definitely raced the boat before he got health issues.
> I could not tell you usage stats for either since I haven't really used
> them extensively. I did use the Mylar one a few times and I would keep it
> if I could, but I'd rather something that fits better that I can leave on
> all the time.
>
> Price wise, I'm up for offers. I did mention what Bacons would probably
> sell it for as a starting range. I don't mind passing on a deal, but please
> keep in mind, I'm also trying to offset the costs of a semi-new/new sail
> myself.
>
> Thanks everyone for your help! I'll definitely be looking to some of the
> donation options you all mentioned for the other ones.
>
> Kevin
>
> Kevin Paxton
> '82 34 #473
> Japhys Spirit
> Cornfield Creek, Magothy River, MD
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 4:00 PM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Kevin,
>
> To optimize your return, you may want to list what you have right here on
> the C&C email list.  Put together a list of what size, (luff, leech, foot),
> material and weight of the sailcloth, general condition, and any work that
> would be needed for the sail to be usable.  Also let folks know if the
> sails were designed to work with roller furling.   Perhaps another owner of
> a 34 (or 35 Mk 1) is lurking in background waiting for a good deal on one
> of your headsails. and weighing against what you may gain from selling it
> through Bacon’s (still not a bad option, certainly to someone not wanting
> to haggle or hassle with the shipping of a sail to heaven knows where..)
> price it accordingly to make it a “good deal” for all parties concerned.
>
>
>
> I just checked rig dimensions but it looks as if your “I” dimension is
> about 2’ too long for my boat…
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chuck Gilchrest
>
> S/V Half Magic
>
> 1983 Landfall 35
>
> Padanaram, MA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Kevin
> Paxton via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 2:46 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Kevin Paxton kpax...@paxdesigns.com,
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Options for getting rid of sails
>
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestions guys. The wife likes the idea of a new bag.
>
>
>
> Anyone fairly successful selling decent quality sails? Or is Consigning a
> better option?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 8:34 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Re-sail in Annapolis will give you a duffel bag.
>
>
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 7:02 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> www.seabags.com
>
> If your sails are large enough they will make you a tote bag for free.  We
> had a great experience with them
>
>
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom
> Buscaglia via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 12:52 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Tom Buscaglia
> Su

Re: Stus-List Sails for sale

[Kevin Paxton via CnC-List]

If anyone was interested in seeing pictures of the sails I listed the other
day.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByfhZSW8NL8BLXZfcjhMYXZodms

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 9:54 PM Kevin Paxton  wrote:

> Thanks Chuck.
>
> If anyone is interested I am trying to get rid of 2 of the headsails of
> the 5 that I got with the purchase of our '81 34. I recently took them all
> to Bacons Sails in annapolis to help me sort out what I should keep and
> what I should consign or trash. These are the 2 that they said they could
> try to consign if I chose to do so.
>
> The first is a Mylar Racing #1 (~150% for an I of 14'). Very good
> condition. There is a little bit of moisture starting in some of the
> stitching and Bacons suggested that I try to get it cleaned and sealed if I
> were to keep it. I really liked this sail but it's a bit too large for the
> roller furling I have on board. I don't want to have to hank on a sail this
> large every time we go out either.
> Measurements: 43' 8" x 42' x 22' 4"
> 3/16" luff tape
> Bacons said they would probably consign it at ~950-1000.
>
> I also have a lightweight Genoa (~140% for an I of 14') that has writings
> on it suggesting it was new in '79. Bacons said it was approximately 4oz
> Dacron.
> Measurements: 43' 11"x 40' 4" x 22'
> 3/16" luff tape.
> No suncover.
> some stains, but still in decent shape.
> Bacons would consign for ~400-600.
>
> Like mentioned above, both have a 3/16" luff tape so they will work with a
> roller furling foil. However, they were too long to actually be used with
> mine, which is why I am parting ways with them.
>
> The previous owner definitely raced the boat before he got health issues.
> I could not tell you usage stats for either since I haven't really used
> them extensively. I did use the Mylar one a few times and I would keep it
> if I could, but I'd rather something that fits better that I can leave on
> all the time.
>
> Price wise, I'm up for offers. I did mention what Bacons would probably
> sell it for as a starting range. I don't mind passing on a deal, but please
> keep in mind, I'm also trying to offset the costs of a semi-new/new sail
> myself.
>
> Thanks everyone for your help! I'll definitely be looking to some of the
> donation options you all mentioned for the other ones.
>
> Kevin
>
> Kevin Paxton
> '82 34 #473
> Japhys Spirit
> Cornfield Creek, Magothy River, MD
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 4:00 PM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Kevin,
>
> To optimize your return, you may want to list what you have right here on
> the C&C email list.  Put together a list of what size, (luff, leech, foot),
> material and weight of the sailcloth, general condition, and any work that
> would be needed for the sail to be usable.  Also let folks know if the
> sails were designed to work with roller furling.   Perhaps another owner of
> a 34 (or 35 Mk 1) is lurking in background waiting for a good deal on one
> of your headsails. and weighing against what you may gain from selling it
> through Bacon’s (still not a bad option, certainly to someone not wanting
> to haggle or hassle with the shipping of a sail to heaven knows where..)
> price it accordingly to make it a “good deal” for all parties concerned.
>
>
>
> I just checked rig dimensions but it looks as if your “I” dimension is
> about 2’ too long for my boat…
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chuck Gilchrest
>
> S/V Half Magic
>
> 1983 Landfall 35
>
> Padanaram, MA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Kevin
> Paxton via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 2:46 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Kevin Paxton kpax...@paxdesigns.com,
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Options for getting rid of sails
>
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestions guys. The wife likes the idea of a new bag.
>
>
>
> Anyone fairly successful selling decent quality sails? Or is Consigning a
> better option?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 8:34 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Re-sail in Annapolis will give you a duffel bag.
>
>
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 7:02 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> www.seabags.com
>
> If your sails are large enough they will make you a tote bag for free.  We
> had a great experience with them
>
>
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom
> Buscaglia via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 12:52 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Tom Buscaglia
> Subject: Stus-List Options for getting rid of sails
>
> Sailvation Army?
>
> Typoed from my iPhone
>
> Tom Buscaglia
> Alera 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> O 206.463.9200 <(206)%20463-9200>
> C 305.409.3660 <(305)%20409-3660>
> Skype - thombusc
>
>
>
> > On Mar 25, 2017, at 8:03 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> >
> > Message:

Re: Stus-List Sails for sale

[Kevin Paxton via CnC-List]

Thanks Chuck.

If anyone is interested I am trying to get rid of 2 of the headsails of the
5 that I got with the purchase of our '81 34. I recently took them all to
Bacons Sails in annapolis to help me sort out what I should keep and what I
should consign or trash. These are the 2 that they said they could try to
consign if I chose to do so.

The first is a Mylar Racing #1 (~150% for an I of 14'). Very good
condition. There is a little bit of moisture starting in some of the
stitching and Bacons suggested that I try to get it cleaned and sealed if I
were to keep it. I really liked this sail but it's a bit too large for the
roller furling I have on board. I don't want to have to hank on a sail this
large every time we go out either.
Measurements: 43' 8" x 42' x 22' 4"
3/16" luff tape
Bacons said they would probably consign it at ~950-1000.

I also have a lightweight Genoa (~140% for an I of 14') that has writings
on it suggesting it was new in '79. Bacons said it was approximately 4oz
Dacron.
Measurements: 43' 11"x 40' 4" x 22'
3/16" luff tape.
No suncover.
some stains, but still in decent shape.
Bacons would consign for ~400-600.

Like mentioned above, both have a 3/16" luff tape so they will work with a
roller furling foil. However, they were too long to actually be used with
mine, which is why I am parting ways with them.

The previous owner definitely raced the boat before he got health issues. I
could not tell you usage stats for either since I haven't really used them
extensively. I did use the Mylar one a few times and I would keep it if I
could, but I'd rather something that fits better that I can leave on all
the time.

Price wise, I'm up for offers. I did mention what Bacons would probably
sell it for as a starting range. I don't mind passing on a deal, but please
keep in mind, I'm also trying to offset the costs of a semi-new/new sail
myself.

Thanks everyone for your help! I'll definitely be looking to some of the
donation options you all mentioned for the other ones.

Kevin

Kevin Paxton
'82 34 #473
Japhys Spirit
Cornfield Creek, Magothy River, MD



On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 4:00 PM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> To optimize your return, you may want to list what you have right here on
> the C&C email list.  Put together a list of what size, (luff, leech, foot),
> material and weight of the sailcloth, general condition, and any work that
> would be needed for the sail to be usable.  Also let folks know if the
> sails were designed to work with roller furling.   Perhaps another owner of
> a 34 (or 35 Mk 1) is lurking in background waiting for a good deal on one
> of your headsails. and weighing against what you may gain from selling it
> through Bacon’s (still not a bad option, certainly to someone not wanting
> to haggle or hassle with the shipping of a sail to heaven knows where..)
> price it accordingly to make it a “good deal” for all parties concerned.
>
>
>
> I just checked rig dimensions but it looks as if your “I” dimension is
> about 2’ too long for my boat…
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chuck Gilchrest
>
> S/V Half Magic
>
> 1983 Landfall 35
>
> Padanaram, MA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Kevin
> Paxton via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 2:46 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Kevin Paxton kpax...@paxdesigns.com,
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Options for getting rid of sails
>
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestions guys. The wife likes the idea of a new bag.
>
>
>
> Anyone fairly successful selling decent quality sails? Or is Consigning a
> better option?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 8:34 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Re-sail in Annapolis will give you a duffel bag.
>
>
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 7:02 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> www.seabags.com
>
> If your sails are large enough they will make you a tote bag for free.  We
> had a great experience with them
>
>
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom
> Buscaglia via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 12:52 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Tom Buscaglia
> Subject: Stus-List Options for getting rid of sails
>
> Sailvation Army?
>
> Typoed from my iPhone
>
> Tom Buscaglia
> Alera 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> O 206.463.9200 <(206)%20463-9200>
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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Douglas via CnC-List]

No

I just took for a survey

I will need to clean it

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 5:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Headgorilla
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

 

Larry,

 

washing a spinnaker is a lot lighter than a Genoa now that I think about it.

 

good move to send it out

 

mike

 

 

 

 

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Cc: Douglas < <mailto:ladoug...@whidbey.com> ladoug...@whidbey.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2015 8:08 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

Mike

I took my Genoa across the water to a loft to do a survey.

The rigger took it down to run my lines and stuffed it in the aft side locker. 
I thought I was going to kill myself getting it out. I think it weighs about 
500 lbs (LOL)

But it barely fit in the trunk of my car. It is a little over 400 square feet 
and heavy. I struggled getting it up to the loft. I am getting old, but not 
that old.

It will not even begin to fit in a garbage can, unless it was a 100 gal can.

When I get it back I will do the truck bed trick.

All my other sails are perfect, except the main sail. I need to take that down 
for the winter and have it surved and cleaned also.

We are looking at snow in 10 days.

larry

 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 4:59 PM
To:  <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Headgorilla
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

 

Larry,

 

I am in a similar predicament, just bought a 1978 34' with a heap of sails. We 
had nice weather this weekend and I used a brand new garbage pail and jug of 
woolite and washed my storm jib and spinnaker.did it on the front lawn and 
hung them out across the front lawn between a couple of trees.

 

The actually came out nice (and smell awesome too, but I will tell you that it 
was some hard work scrubbing and pulling wet fabric around

 

thankfully the previous owner was a racer and the sails are in very fine shape, 
even the older ones

 

always wanted a C&C, the only sad part is that I bought it on the day it was 
hauled for the winter :)dang I want to sail her so bad :(

 

MIke

1978 34"

Skywalker

 

 

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Cc: Josh Muckley < <mailto:muckl...@gmail.com> muckl...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2015 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

I'm with Martin, too cheap to pay the loft to do it.  I conservatively apply 
straight Simple Green and scrub with a soft deck brush.  Allow to soak, rinse, 
flip, repeat.  Flip again and rinse.  I do it in the yard...rather i get my 
wife to do it in the yard.  It's not perfect and I don't get the repair but it 
is quick and effective.  I have considered a once every five cycle where I 
seasonally do simple green and every five years take it to the loft.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD 

On Dec 2, 2015 12:57 PM, "Douglas via CnC-List" < 
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Happy Holiday Everyone

I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
the same time spit and polish the boat.

She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running 
rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 
125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail. 

The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
correct. 

I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.

Any thoughts. How do you all do it?

Thanks

Larry


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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Headgorilla via CnC-List]

Larry,
 
washing a spinnaker is a lot lighter than a Genoa now that I think about it.
 
good move to send it out
 
mike
 
 
 
 
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To: cnc-list 
Cc: Douglas 
Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2015 8:08 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails



Mike
I took my Genoa across the water to a loft to do a survey.
The rigger took it down to run my lines and stuffed it in the aft side locker. 
I thought I was going to kill myself getting it out. I think it weighs about 
500 lbs (LOL)
But it barely fit in the trunk of my car. It is a little over 400 square feet 
and heavy. I struggled getting it up to the loft. I am getting old, but not 
that old.
It will not even begin to fit in a garbage can, unless it was a 100 gal can.
When I get it back I will do the truck bed trick.
All my other sails are perfect, except the main sail. I need to take that down 
for the winter and have it surved and cleaned also.
We are looking at snow in 10 days.
larry
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Headgorilla 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 4:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Headgorilla
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails
 

Larry,

 

I am in a similar predicament, just bought a 1978 34' with a heap of sails. We 
had nice weather this weekend and I used a brand new garbage pail and jug of 
woolite and washed my storm jib and spinnaker.did it on the front lawn and 
hung them out across the front lawn between a couple of trees.

 

The actually came out nice (and smell awesome too, but I will tell you that it 
was some hard work scrubbing and pulling wet fabric around

 

thankfully the previous owner was a racer and the sails are in very fine shape, 
even the older ones

 

always wanted a C&C, the only sad part is that I bought it on the day it was 
hauled for the winter :)dang I want to sail her so bad :(

 

MIke

1978 34"

Skywalker

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
To: C&C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2015 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails


I'm with Martin, too cheap to pay the loft to do it.  I conservatively apply 
straight Simple Green and scrub with a soft deck brush.  Allow to soak, rinse, 
flip, repeat.  Flip again and rinse.  I do it in the yard...rather i get my 
wife to do it in the yard.  It's not perfect and I don't get the repair but it 
is quick and effective.  I have considered a once every five cycle where I 
seasonally do simple green and every five years take it to the loft.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD 

On Dec 2, 2015 12:57 PM, "Douglas via CnC-List"  wrote:


Happy Holiday Everyone

I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
the same time spit and polish the boat.

She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running 
rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 
125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail. 

The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
correct. 

I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.

Any thoughts. How do you all do it?

Thanks

Larry



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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Did ya use "fa breeze"?  :)

Dennis C.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Headgorilla via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Larry,
>
> I am in a similar predicament, just bought a 1978 34' with a heap of
> sails. We had nice weather this weekend and I used a brand new garbage pail
> and jug of woolite and washed my storm jib and spinnaker.did it on the
> front lawn and hung them out across the front lawn between a couple of
> trees.
>
> The actually came out nice (and smell awesome too, but I will tell you
> that it was some hard work scrubbing and pulling wet fabric around
>
> thankfully the previous owner was a racer and the sails are in very fine
> shape, even the older ones
>
> always wanted a C&C, the only sad part is that I bought it on the day it
> was hauled for the winter :)dang I want to sail her so bad :(
>
> MIke
> 1978 34"
> Skywalker
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> To: C&C List 
> Cc: Josh Muckley 
> Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2015 5:15 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails
>
> I'm with Martin, too cheap to pay the loft to do it.  I conservatively
> apply straight Simple Green and scrub with a soft deck brush.  Allow to
> soak, rinse, flip, repeat.  Flip again and rinse.  I do it in the
> yard...rather i get my wife to do it in the yard.  It's not perfect and I
> don't get the repair but it is quick and effective.  I have considered a
> once every five cycle where I seasonally do simple green and every five
> years take it to the loft.
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Dec 2, 2015 12:57 PM, "Douglas via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> Happy Holiday Everyone
>> I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can,
>> while at the same time spit and polish the boat.
>> She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the
>> running rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I
>> believe it is 125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde
>> sail.
>> The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have
>> read the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener,
>> Is this correct.
>> I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting
>> it soak overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a
>> soft nylon brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses
>> and build a 4X8 work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto
>> another tarp on the ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.
>> Any thoughts. How do you all do it?
>> Thanks
>> Larry
>>
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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Douglas via CnC-List]

Mike

I took my Genoa across the water to a loft to do a survey.

The rigger took it down to run my lines and stuffed it in the aft side locker. 
I thought I was going to kill myself getting it out. I think it weighs about 
500 lbs (LOL)

But it barely fit in the trunk of my car. It is a little over 400 square feet 
and heavy. I struggled getting it up to the loft. I am getting old, but not 
that old.

It will not even begin to fit in a garbage can, unless it was a 100 gal can.

When I get it back I will do the truck bed trick.

All my other sails are perfect, except the main sail. I need to take that down 
for the winter and have it surved and cleaned also.

We are looking at snow in 10 days.

larry

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Headgorilla 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 4:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Headgorilla
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

 

Larry,

 

I am in a similar predicament, just bought a 1978 34' with a heap of sails. We 
had nice weather this weekend and I used a brand new garbage pail and jug of 
woolite and washed my storm jib and spinnaker.did it on the front lawn and 
hung them out across the front lawn between a couple of trees.

 

The actually came out nice (and smell awesome too, but I will tell you that it 
was some hard work scrubbing and pulling wet fabric around

 

thankfully the previous owner was a racer and the sails are in very fine shape, 
even the older ones

 

always wanted a C&C, the only sad part is that I bought it on the day it was 
hauled for the winter :)dang I want to sail her so bad :(

 

MIke

1978 34"

Skywalker

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
To: C&C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2015 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

I'm with Martin, too cheap to pay the loft to do it.  I conservatively apply 
straight Simple Green and scrub with a soft deck brush.  Allow to soak, rinse, 
flip, repeat.  Flip again and rinse.  I do it in the yard...rather i get my 
wife to do it in the yard.  It's not perfect and I don't get the repair but it 
is quick and effective.  I have considered a once every five cycle where I 
seasonally do simple green and every five years take it to the loft.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD 

On Dec 2, 2015 12:57 PM, "Douglas via CnC-List"  wrote:

Happy Holiday Everyone

I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
the same time spit and polish the boat.

She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running 
rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 
125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail. 

The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
correct. 

I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.

Any thoughts. How do you all do it?

Thanks

Larry


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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Headgorilla via CnC-List]

Larry,
 
I am in a similar predicament, just bought a 1978 34' with a heap of sails. We 
had nice weather this weekend and I used a brand new garbage pail and jug of 
woolite and washed my storm jib and spinnaker.did it on the front lawn and 
hung them out across the front lawn between a couple of trees.
 
The actually came out nice (and smell awesome too, but I will tell you that it 
was some hard work scrubbing and pulling wet fabric around
 
thankfully the previous owner was a racer and the sails are in very fine shape, 
even the older ones
 
always wanted a C&C, the only sad part is that I bought it on the day it was 
hauled for the winter :)dang I want to sail her so bad :(

MIke
1978 34"
Skywalker
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
To: C&C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2015 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails



I'm with Martin, too cheap to pay the loft to do it.  I conservatively apply 
straight Simple Green and scrub with a soft deck brush.  Allow to soak, rinse, 
flip, repeat.  Flip again and rinse.  I do it in the yard...rather i get my 
wife to do it in the yard.  It's not perfect and I don't get the repair but it 
is quick and effective.  I have considered a once every five cycle where I 
seasonally do simple green and every five years take it to the loft.
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD 
On Dec 2, 2015 12:57 PM, "Douglas via CnC-List"  wrote:


Happy Holiday Everyone
I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
the same time spit and polish the boat.
She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running 
rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 
125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail. 
The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
correct. 
I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.
Any thoughts. How do you all do it?
Thanks
Larry


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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I'm with Martin, too cheap to pay the loft to do it.  I conservatively
apply straight Simple Green and scrub with a soft deck brush.  Allow to
soak, rinse, flip, repeat.  Flip again and rinse.  I do it in the
yard...rather i get my wife to do it in the yard.  It's not perfect and I
don't get the repair but it is quick and effective.  I have considered a
once every five cycle where I seasonally do simple green and every five
years take it to the loft.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Dec 2, 2015 12:57 PM, "Douglas via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Happy Holiday Everyone
>
> I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while
> at the same time spit and polish the boat.
>
> She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the
> running rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I
> believe it is 125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde
> sail.
>
> The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have
> read the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener,
> Is this correct.
>
> I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it
> soak overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a
> soft nylon brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses
> and build a 4X8 work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto
> another tarp on the ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.
>
> Any thoughts. How do you all do it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry
>
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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Larry, 

The Enterprise is based on City Island, NY (a/k/a "Starbase One"). 

Butch Ulmer is still there, but I mainly work with Tom Nye -- good guys. 

All the best,

Edd

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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I used to bring my sails and canvas in every year for inspection, repair as 
needed,  clean as needed, waterproof UV treatment and storage to the quantum 
loft.  I think the most expensive year was like $400 and they had to do some 
repairs due to chafing on the mainsail cover.  Another year they added spreader 
patches and beefed up the foot of the headsail because of lifeline chafing.
I'd have to look at the old invoices to see exactly what things cost
DannyMattapoisett, MA


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Edd 
Schillay via CnC-List  Date: 12/6/2015  12:22 PM  
(GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edd Schillay  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails 
Chuck,
I'm not positive, but I think it was under $200. 


All the best,
Edd
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On Dec 6, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Chuck S via CnC-List  wrote:

Hi Edd,
What does UK typically charge for this service?


Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

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Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

Larry,
You could go with a mild laundry detergent, but I would recommend using a 
winter storage and inspection service by your local sailmaker. They will not 
only clean your sail, they will inspect and do some repairs if needed. I’ve 
done this with UK quite a few times and the pricing is beyond reasonable. Come 
Spring, you pick up your clean, folded and repaired sail.  

All the best,
Edd

Edd M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BCity Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log








 



 
On Dec 2, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Douglas via CnC-List  wrote:
Happy Holiday EveryoneI purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn 
everything I can, while at the same time spit and polish the boat.She is a 
38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running rigging. 
Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 125% 
Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail. The question is, 
what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read the solution 
should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this correct. I 
thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.Any thoughts. How do you all do 
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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Douglas via CnC-List]

Ed 

Sorry I just your email signature; you are in NY.

“Never Mind”

Larry

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

 

Hi Edd,

What does UK typically charge for this service?

 

 

Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

 

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Cc: "Edd Schillay" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

 

Larry,

 

You could go with a mild laundry detergent, but I would recommend using a 
winter storage and inspection service by your local sailmaker. They will not 
only clean your sail, they will inspect and do some repairs if needed. I’ve 
done this with UK quite a few times and the pricing is beyond reasonable. Come 
Spring, you pick up your clean, folded and repaired sail. 

 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> 

 













 

 






 

On Dec 2, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Douglas via CnC-List  wrote:

 

Happy Holiday Everyone

I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
the same time spit and polish the boat.

She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running 
rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 
125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail. 

The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
correct. 

I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.

Any thoughts. How do you all do it?

Thanks

Larry

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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Douglas via CnC-List]

ED

I did a search for UK sails. There is a loft in Bellingham and possibly in 
Anacortes Wa.

What UK loft do you use.

Larry

 

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To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Cc: Chuck S
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

 

Hi Edd,

What does UK typically charge for this service?

 

 

Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

 

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From: "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Edd Schillay" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

 

Larry,

 

You could go with a mild laundry detergent, but I would recommend using a 
winter storage and inspection service by your local sailmaker. They will not 
only clean your sail, they will inspect and do some repairs if needed. I’ve 
done this with UK quite a few times and the pricing is beyond reasonable. Come 
Spring, you pick up your clean, folded and repaired sail. 

 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> 

 













 

 






 

On Dec 2, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Douglas via CnC-List  wrote:

 

Happy Holiday Everyone

I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
the same time spit and polish the boat.

She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running 
rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 
125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail. 

The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
correct. 

I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.

Any thoughts. How do you all do it?

Thanks

Larry

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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Chuck,

I'm not positive, but I think it was under $200. 


All the best,

Edd

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On Dec 6, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Chuck S via CnC-List  wrote:

Hi Edd,
What does UK typically charge for this service?


Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

From: "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" 
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Cc: "Edd Schillay" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

Larry,

You could go with a mild laundry detergent, but I would recommend using a 
winter storage and inspection service by your local sailmaker. They will not 
only clean your sail, they will inspect and do some repairs if needed. I’ve 
done this with UK quite a few times and the pricing is beyond reasonable. Come 
Spring, you pick up your clean, folded and repaired sail. 
 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log








 





On Dec 2, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Douglas via CnC-List  wrote:

Happy Holiday Everyone
I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
the same time spit and polish the boat.
She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running 
rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 
125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail. 
The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
correct. 
I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.
Any thoughts. How do you all do it?
Thanks
Larry
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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Hi Edd, 
What does UK typically charge for this service? 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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From: "Edd Schillay via CnC-List"  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "Edd Schillay"  
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:11:17 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails 

Larry, 

You could go with a mild laundry detergent, but I would recommend using a 
winter storage and inspection service by your local sailmaker. They will not 
only clean your sail, they will inspect and do some repairs if needed. I’ve 
done this with UK quite a few times and the pricing is beyond reasonable. Come 
Spring, you pick up your clean, folded and repaired sail. 


All the best, 

Edd 


Edd M. Schillay 
Starship Enterprise 
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B 
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
















On Dec 2, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Douglas via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
wrote: 

Happy Holiday Everyone 
I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
the same time spit and polish the boat. 
She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running 
rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 
125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail. 
The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
correct. 
I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry. 
Any thoughts. How do you all do it? 
Thanks 
Larry 
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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Bruce Pope via CnC-List]

I have used Oxiclean on my Dacron sails for years and had no ill effects.

Cleans off mold/mildew other misc. stains including blood (don't ask).


Bruce


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Martin

I Oxyclean and similar products contain dehydrated hydrogen peroxide and I read 
where that is bad for some sail. I don't know if that is true or not. Do you 
know. I know that would really brighten up the sail.

I thought about using it.

I don't mind the cost, but it is extremely too high just to clean the sail and 
repairs are extra. That is close to 1/3 the price for a similar sail.  I have a 
friend who has a sewing setup similar to a Para loft (military parachute shop) 
and do any stitching I need.

I was going to hang 3 or 4 closet 1" dowel from the ceiling in the garage and 
drape it over the rods like Christmas candy ribbon.  That should give plenty of 
room to dry them. I could tie them to the bumper and a couple of fir trees, but 
I don't the fir drippings would be good for the sails.

I will contact a couple of sail places in the area and see what say. I hear 
they all are sent to Bainbridge Island for cleaning.

Larry






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Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Douglas
Subject: Stus-List Sails

Happy Holiday Everyone

I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
the same time spit and polish the boat.

She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running 
rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 
125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail.

The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
correct.

I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.

Any thoughts. How do you all do it?

Thanks

Larry
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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

I don't know how the full strength Oxy type cleaning products effect sails but 
the stuff I used was intended to be used on Sunbrella so it my be a milder 
version.  It may have been called or sold by Osso.



A while back there was a sail cleaning discussion here or on Sailing Anarchy 
where a person recommended throwing the sail into a neighbor's swimming pool.  
The chlorine apparently does a good job.  Others posting to that discussion did 
express concern about the chlorine's effect on the sails and stitching.



Re fir droppings: I agree it is worth the effort to keep tree and lawn debris 
off the sail.  Here in the PNW those little bits of organic material are 
incubators for mold and green goo.  I hose off my driveway before cleaning 
Calypso's sails to minimize the exposure and carefully rinsed or brushed off 
any bits that I noticed when folding the sail up.



I keep Calypso at Shilshole.  For the last few years there has been an increase 
in monitoring for "soap" suds running off the boats.  Even if a 
"environmentally safe" cleaning product is being used, my read of the marina's 
rules indicates no soap bubbles are allowed.  Back a few years it was possible 
to clean the sails on board on a calm day.  I would start with the sail hoisted 
and scrub all that I could reach then lower it and repeat until it was all 
scrubbed.  Then to rinse I would reverse the process leaving it hoisted to dry.



Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Calypso


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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

Martin
I Oxyclean and similar products contain dehydrated hydrogen peroxide and I read 
where that is bad for some sail. I don’t know if that is true or not. Do you 
know. I know that would really brighten up the sail.
I thought about using it.
I don’t mind the cost, but it is extremely too high just to clean the sail and 
repairs are extra. That is close to 1/3 the price for a similar sail.  I have a 
friend who has a sewing setup similar to a Para loft (military parachute shop) 
and do any stitching I need.
I was going to hang 3 or 4 closet 1” dowel from the ceiling in the garage and 
drape it over the rods like Christmas candy ribbon.  That should give plenty of 
room to dry them. I could tie them to the bumper and a couple of fir trees, but 
I don’t the fir drippings would be good for the sails.
I will contact a couple of sail places in the area and see what say. I hear 
they all are sent to Bainbridge Island for cleaning.
Larry

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Martin DeYoung
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails


I have cleaned Calypso's sails in my driveway using a product made for cleaning 
sunbrella type canvas.  I don't recall the name but it works similar to 
Oxyclean type products.  I bought it at the big canvas shop in Ballard.



After a short soak of the heavy mildew/dirt areas I use a long handled boat 
brush to scrub off the big chunks, rinse, then repeat without a soak.



To get access to large areas of the sail I stretched it between the building, a 
basketball hoop, step ladder, and my truck bumper.  I left it out (done in late 
spring or fall) to mostly dry before taking down to the boat to finish drying.



It is a lot of work but I'm still too cheap to pay $500+ for the service.



Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle
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[Douglas via CnC-List]

Martin

I Oxyclean and similar products contain dehydrated hydrogen peroxide and I
read where that is bad for some sail. I don't know if that is true or not.
Do you know. I know that would really brighten up the sail.

I thought about using it.

I don't mind the cost, but it is extremely too high just to clean the sail
and repairs are extra. That is close to 1/3 the price for a similar sail.  I
have a friend who has a sewing setup similar to a Para loft (military
parachute shop) and do any stitching I need.

I was going to hang 3 or 4 closet 1" dowel from the ceiling in the garage
and drape it over the rods like Christmas candy ribbon.  That should give
plenty of room to dry them. I could tie them to the bumper and a couple of
fir trees, but I don't the fir drippings would be good for the sails.

I will contact a couple of sail places in the area and see what say. I hear
they all are sent to Bainbridge Island for cleaning.

Larry

 

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DeYoung via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 11:05 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Martin DeYoung
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

 

I have cleaned Calypso's sails in my driveway using a product made for
cleaning sunbrella type canvas.  I don't recall the name but it works
similar to Oxyclean type products.  I bought it at the big canvas shop in
Ballard.

 

After a short soak of the heavy mildew/dirt areas I use a long handled boat
brush to scrub off the big chunks, rinse, then repeat without a soak.

 

To get access to large areas of the sail I stretched it between the
building, a basketball hoop, step ladder, and my truck bumper.  I left it
out (done in late spring or fall) to mostly dry before taking down to the
boat to finish drying.

 

It is a lot of work but I'm still too cheap to pay $500+ for the service.

 

Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle

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Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Douglas
Subject: Stus-List Sails

Happy Holiday Everyone

I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while
at the same time spit and polish the boat.

She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the
running rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I
believe it is 125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde
sail. 

The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have
read the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is
this correct. 

I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it
soak overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft
nylon brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and
build a 4X8 work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another
tarp on the ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.

Any thoughts. How do you all do it?

Thanks

Larry

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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

I have cleaned Calypso's sails in my driveway using a product made for cleaning 
sunbrella type canvas.  I don't recall the name but it works similar to 
Oxyclean type products.  I bought it at the big canvas shop in Ballard.



After a short soak of the heavy mildew/dirt areas I use a long handled boat 
brush to scrub off the big chunks, rinse, then repeat without a soak.



To get access to large areas of the sail I stretched it between the building, a 
basketball hoop, step ladder, and my truck bumper.  I left it out (done in late 
spring or fall) to mostly dry before taking down to the boat to finish drying.



It is a lot of work but I'm still too cheap to pay $500+ for the service.



Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle


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Subject: Stus-List Sails

Happy Holiday Everyone
I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
the same time spit and polish the boat.
She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running 
rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 
125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail.
The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
correct.
I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.
Any thoughts. How do you all do it?
Thanks
Larry
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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Douglas via CnC-List]

Edd

Thanks: I am checking into that. So far what I have been told is that any 
service in the area only collect the sails and then send them to the only place 
that cleans sails locally. It is a 8 hour round trip by car, so they use UPS. 
That runs the cost up. They charge $1.00+ per square foot plus shipping. I 
suspect it would run around $500 + to have my Genoa cleaned. But I am still 
checking. I guess that is the price to pay for living in the Salish Seas.

Larry

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 10:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

 

Larry,

 

You could go with a mild laundry detergent, but I would recommend using a 
winter storage and inspection service by your local sailmaker. They will not 
only clean your sail, they will inspect and do some repairs if needed. I’ve 
done this with UK quite a few times and the pricing is beyond reasonable. Come 
Spring, you pick up your clean, folded and repaired sail. 

 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> 

 












 






 

On Dec 2, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Douglas via CnC-List  wrote:

 

Happy Holiday Everyone

I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
the same time spit and polish the boat.

She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running 
rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 
125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail. 

The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
correct. 

I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.

Any thoughts. How do you all do it?

Thanks

Larry

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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Douglas via CnC-List]

Mike

Thanks: I am checking into that. So far what I have been told is that any 
service in the area only collect the sails and then send them to the only place 
that cleans sails locally. It is a 8 hour round trip by car, so they use UPS. 
That runs the cost up. They charge $1.00+ per square foot plus shipping. I 
suspect it would run around $500 + to have my Genoa cleaned. But I am still 
checking. I guess that is the price to pay for living in the Salish Seas.

Larry

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Headgorilla 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 10:13 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Headgorilla
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails

 

Great Question,

 

I just bought a 1978 34' 3 weeks ago and may have to open a laundry service 
myselfthey all need cleaning and I am considering sending them out to the 
local sail guy.

 

Mike

LI NY

 

 

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Cc: Douglas < <mailto:ladoug...@whidbey.com> ladoug...@whidbey.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2015 12:57 pm
Subject: Stus-List Sails

Happy Holiday Everyone

I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
the same time spit and polish the boat.

She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running 
rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 
125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail. 

The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
correct. 

I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.

Any thoughts. How do you all do it?

Thanks

Larry

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Great Question,
 
I just bought a 1978 34' 3 weeks ago and may have to open a laundry service 
myselfthey all need cleaning and I am considering sending them out to the 
local sail guy.
 
Mike
LI NY
 
 
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Subject: Stus-List Sails



Happy Holiday Everyone
I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
the same time spit and polish the boat.
She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the running 
rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I believe it is 
125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail. 
The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
correct. 
I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it soak 
overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft nylon 
brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build a 4X8 
work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on the 
ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.
Any thoughts. How do you all do it?
Thanks
Larry

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Re: Stus-List Sails

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Larry,

You could go with a mild laundry detergent, but I would recommend using a 
winter storage and inspection service by your local sailmaker. They will not 
only clean your sail, they will inspect and do some repairs if needed. I’ve 
done this with UK quite a few times and the pricing is beyond reasonable. Come 
Spring, you pick up your clean, folded and repaired sail. 
 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 













> On Dec 2, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Douglas via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Happy Holiday Everyone
> I purchased my boat a year ago and trying to learn everything I can, while at 
> the same time spit and polish the boat.
> She is a 38-ft MKIII. I just took the Jib/Genoa down to replace on the 
> running rigging. Now I want to CLEAN and store the sail for the winter. I 
> believe it is 125% Genoa. Just not sure what material. It is neil pryde sail. 
> The question is, what is the best way to clean such a large sail. I have read 
> the solution should be a mild laundry detergent and fabric softener, Is this 
> correct. 
> I thought about putting a tarp in the back of my pickup bed and letting it 
> soak overnight and then pulling it out by the head and scrubbing with a soft 
> nylon brush on both sides as I go. I can take a couple of sawhorses and build 
> a 4X8 work platform to scrub on. Rinsing and flaking it onto another tarp on 
> the ground. Then hanging it in the garage to dry.
> Any thoughts. How do you all do it?
> Thanks
> Larry
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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

[David via CnC-List]

Geeez Josh...he meant the creek.



David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:47:47 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; wkub...@1260hdc.org
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Free?  The boat or the sail?
On Jul 24, 2014 8:11 AM, "Walter Kubiak via CnC-List"  
wrote:









I have a 1978 c&c 34 and I don’t use the spinnaker—don’t have a pole and I am 
too old. The boat is at worton creek in MD. You can have it for free.

 

Walt Kubiak
Chief Executive Officer

Mission First Housing Group

2042-48 Arch Street

Philadelphia, PA 19103

215-518-0161 (mobile)

wkub...@missionfirsthousing.org

www.missionfirsthousing.org

 

 


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On Behalf Of John and Maryann Read via CnC-List

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:17 PM

To: 'Edd Schillay'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate


 
Edd
 
Coast Guard Academy in New London may help you
 
FWIW need a spinnaker for my 34
 

John & Maryann

 


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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 3:02 PM

To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list

Subject: Stus-List Sails to Donate


 
Listers,

 


Does anyone know of an organization (preferably charity) that 
accepts old sails as donations? I’d love to find one in the northeast that 
would be willing to come and pick them up. Have quiet
 a few old headsails and a couple of spinnakers that need new homes. 


 

   
All the best,


 


   
Edd


 


 


   
Edd M. Schillay


   
Starship Enterprise


   
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B


   
City Island, NY 



   
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Free?  The boat or the sail?
On Jul 24, 2014 8:11 AM, "Walter Kubiak via CnC-List" 
wrote:

>  I have a 1978 c&c 34 and I don't use the spinnaker--don't have a pole and
> I am too old. The boat is at worton creek in MD. You can have it for free.
>
>
>
> Walt Kubiak
>
> Chief Executive Officer
>
> Mission First Housing Group
>
> 2042-48 Arch Street
>
> Philadelphia, PA 19103
>
> 215-518-0161 (mobile)
>
> wkub...@missionfirsthousing.org
>
> www.missionfirsthousing.org
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *John
> and Maryann Read via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:17 PM
> *To:* 'Edd Schillay'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate
>
>
>
> Edd
>
>
>
> Coast Guard Academy in New London may help you
>
>
>
> FWIW need a spinnaker for my 34
>
>
>
> John & Maryann
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edd
> Schillay via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2014 3:02 PM
> *To:* CNC boat owners, cnc-list
> *Subject:* Stus-List Sails to Donate
>
>
>
> Listers,
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of an organization (preferably charity) that
> accepts old sails as donations? I'd love to find one in the northeast that
> would be willing to come and pick them up. Have quiet a few old headsails
> and a couple of spinnakers that need new homes.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Edd
>
>
>
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
>
> Starship Enterprise
>
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>
> City Island, NY
>
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

[Nauset Beach via CnC-List]

Edd,

 

New York / SUNY Maritime takes sail donations – they are very close to you on 
Throggs Neck.  

 

http://www.sunymaritime.edu/Waterfront/Support%20the%20Waterfront/Boat%20Donations/Frequently_Asked_Questions.aspx

 

Have donated sails to them in the past.  

 

Brian

 

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 2:12 PM
To: Edd Schillay; cnc-list
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

 

Z-Sailes in Stamford CT can arrange s donation to charity. Not sure about 
pickup.

 

Eric

 

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Listers,

 

Does anyone know of an organization (preferably charity) that accepts old sails 
as donations? I’d love to find one in the northeast that would be willing to 
come and pick them up. Have quiet a few old headsails and a couple of 
spinnakers that need new homes. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

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Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

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Z-Sailes in Stamford CT can arrange s donation to charity. Not sure about
pickup.

Eric


On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
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> Listers,
>
> Does anyone know of an organization (preferably charity) that accepts old
> sails as donations? I’d love to find one in the northeast that would be
> willing to come and pick them up. Have quiet a few old headsails and a
> couple of spinnakers that need new homes.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
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> City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

[Rich Knowles via CnC-List]

Has anyone tried Krazy Grease, a waterproof grease in cartridges that is 
advertised as being the greatest thing since short skirts? 

Might be good on MaxProps etc.

See www.krazygrease.com

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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

[Fair, Mike via CnC-List]

Wally,
Very nice offer. I'll be in Oaxaca in September but won't have time to swing 
by. My loss.

Thanks,

Mike Fair


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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:28 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

Mike -

A long time ago someone (I think it actually was Fred) sold me an ATN storm jib 
that fits an LF38.  I've never used it, and have seen enough sloppy stuff that 
I realize I don't need it.  (Heck, I fly a 90 on the furler all the time, and 
even in light air I move along just fine.)

So you can have it if you want to fly down to Mexico and pick it up.  
Otherwise it'll probably end up at a swap meet next year.

Wal

Mike via CnC-List wrote:
> I'm looking for storm trysail, storm jib or possibly #3.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Bacon Sails gets lots of storm jobs and trysails after the distance races.
 They also order a bunch of new ones each year that are relatively
inexpensive.

Joel


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Walter Kubiak via CnC-List <
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>  I have a 1978 c&c 34 and I don’t use the spinnaker—don’t have a pole and
> I am too old. The boat is at worton creek in MD. You can have it for free.
>
>
>
> Walt Kubiak
>
> Chief Executive Officer
>
> Mission First Housing Group
>
> 2042-48 Arch Street
>
> Philadelphia, PA 19103
>
> 215-518-0161 (mobile)
>
> wkub...@missionfirsthousing.org
>
> www.missionfirsthousing.org
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *John
> and Maryann Read via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:17 PM
> *To:* 'Edd Schillay'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate
>
>
>
> Edd
>
>
>
> Coast Guard Academy in New London may help you
>
>
>
> FWIW need a spinnaker for my 34
>
>
>
> John & Maryann
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edd
> Schillay via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2014 3:02 PM
> *To:* CNC boat owners, cnc-list
> *Subject:* Stus-List Sails to Donate
>
>
>
> Listers,
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of an organization (preferably charity) that
> accepts old sails as donations? I’d love to find one in the northeast that
> would be willing to come and pick them up. Have quiet a few old headsails
> and a couple of spinnakers that need new homes.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Edd
>
>
>
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
>
> Starship Enterprise
>
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>
> City Island, NY
>
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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

[Walter Kubiak via CnC-List]

I have a 1978 c&c 34 and I don't use the spinnaker-don't have a pole and I am 
too old. The boat is at worton creek in MD. You can have it for free.

Walt Kubiak
Chief Executive Officer
Mission First Housing Group
2042-48 Arch Street
Philadelphia, PA 19103
215-518-0161 (mobile)
wkub...@missionfirsthousing.org
www.missionfirsthousing.org


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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:17 PM
To: 'Edd Schillay'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

Edd

Coast Guard Academy in New London may help you

FWIW need a spinnaker for my 34

John & Maryann

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 3:02 PM
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Subject: Stus-List Sails to Donate

Listers,

Does anyone know of an organization (preferably charity) that 
accepts old sails as donations? I'd love to find one in the northeast that 
would be willing to come and pick them up. Have quiet a few old headsails and a 
couple of spinnakers that need new homes.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

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I met a woman in Halifax and saw an ad on local Kijjiji in Oakville Ontario, 
both searching for sail donations for their craft job making bags and things 
from old sails.

me? I am liking for a heavy air blade LOL

Don
Viking 34
North Channel

> On Jul 23, 2014, at 9:17 PM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
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> Edd
>  
> Coast Guard Academy in New London may help you
>  
> FWIW need a spinnaker for my 34
>  
> John & Maryann
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> Schillay via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 3:02 PM
> To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list
> Subject: Stus-List Sails to Donate
>  
> Listers,
>  
> Does anyone know of an organization (preferably charity) that 
> accepts old sails as donations? I’d love to find one in the northeast that 
> would be willing to come and pick them up. Have quiet a few old headsails and 
> a couple of spinnakers that need new homes. 
>  
> 
> All the best,
>  
> Edd
>  
>  
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

Edd

 

Coast Guard Academy in New London may help you

 

FWIW need a spinnaker for my 34

 

John & Maryann

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 3:02 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Sails to Donate

 

Listers,

 

Does anyone know of an organization (preferably charity) that
accepts old sails as donations? I'd love to find one in the northeast that
would be willing to come and pick them up. Have quiet a few old headsails
and a couple of spinnakers that need new homes. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
 

 



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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

[Wally Bryant via CnC-List]

Mike -

A long time ago someone (I think it actually was Fred) sold me an ATN 
storm jib that fits an LF38.  I've never used it, and have seen enough 
sloppy stuff that I realize I don't need it.  (Heck, I fly a 90 on the 
furler all the time, and even in light air I move along just fine.)


So you can have it if you want to fly down to Mexico and pick it up.  
Otherwise it'll probably end up at a swap meet next year.


Wal

Mike via CnC-List wrote:

I'm looking for storm trysail, storm jib or possibly #3.

Thanks,

Mike Fair



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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

[coltrek via CnC-List]

Just pull your pole too far to windward then over trim.


WILD BILL

 Original message From: Andrew Burton via 
CnC-List  Date:07/23/2014  12:03 PM  
(GMT-08:00) To: Edd Schillay , 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate 

I need a blooper that'll fit a C&C 40...


On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Listers,

Does anyone know of an organization (preferably charity) that accepts 
old sails as donations? I’d love to find one in the northeast that would be 
willing to come and pick them up. Have quiet a few old headsails and a couple 
of spinnakers that need new homes. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log


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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I “donated" my old sails to Seabags 
(http://seabags.com/info/recycle-your-sail.html) and got a very nice  free bag 
for each sail. Not a charity, but nice people and easy to work with.  They came 
to my garage at work and we moved the sails from my trunk to theirs.  Dave

On Jul 23, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
wrote:

> Listers,
> 
>   Does anyone know of an organization (preferably charity) that accepts 
> old sails as donations? I’d love to find one in the northeast that would be 
> willing to come and pick them up. Have quiet a few old headsails and a couple 
> of spinnakers that need new homes. 
> 
> 
>   All the best,
> 
>   Edd
> 
> 
>   Edd M. Schillay
>   Starship Enterprise
>   C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>   City Island, NY 
>   Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

http://sailsforsustenance.org/where-to-donate-sails/

Dennis C.


On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> Does anyone know of an organization (preferably charity) that accepts old
> sails as donations? I’d love to find one in the northeast that would be
> willing to come and pick them up. Have quiet a few old headsails and a
> couple of spinnakers that need new homes.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

[Fair, Mike via CnC-List]

I'm looking for storm trysail, storm jib or possibly #3.

Thanks,

Mike Fair

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 3:02 PM
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Subject: Stus-List Sails to Donate

Listers,

Does anyone know of an organization (preferably charity) that 
accepts old sails as donations? I'd love to find one in the northeast that 
would be willing to come and pick them up. Have quiet a few old headsails and a 
couple of spinnakers that need new homes.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's 
Log

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Re: Stus-List Sails to Donate

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I need a blooper that'll fit a C&C 40...


On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> Does anyone know of an organization (preferably charity) that accepts old
> sails as donations? I’d love to find one in the northeast that would be
> willing to come and pick them up. Have quiet a few old headsails and a
> couple of spinnakers that need new homes.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
>  Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>  City Island, NY
>  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
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Re: Stus-List Sails & Sailmakers

[Dennis C.]

Ditto.  There are so many considerations the non-sailmaker boat owner might not 
consider.

One big consideration is the slot.  The genoa and main need to work together.  
If a sailmaker is really good, he'll hoist and look at the "other" sail, the 
one you're not buying.  For instance, if you have a main with a deep draft 
carried aft in the sail, you wouldn't want to buy a big genoa with a fairly 
flat exit.  It might constrict the slot and slow the boat down.  Other 
considerations are:

Spreader patches
Stanchion patches
Track location (yours might not be optimal)
Local weather and wave conditions
Screwy little configurations at tack and/or clew

I always deal local.  I buy from either Ullman or North.  The sailmaker 
measures, installs, sails or sometimes races with us.  Note: Touche' has never 
lost a race with a sailmaker onboard.  :)

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA





>
> From: "honeys...@aol.com" 
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 12:13 PM
>Subject: Stus-List  Sails & Sailmakers
> 
>
>We have owned our C&C 39 TM #39069-74 since Dec of 1975 and took 
delivery of her in Savannah on 4 Feb 1976. Since then we have purchased race 
& cruising sails from, Fraker (original suit built for the PO/C&C), 
North/Newport, North/San Diego, Gleason, Quantum, Dave Calvert & now UK 
Halsey's Charleston, SC loft and after all of these years and the many 
thousands 
of hard earned dollars spent, I have come to the conclusion that you get 
exactly what you pay for when buying sails. I can honestly say that of all the 
lofts that I have worked with UK's Charleston loft provided the best service 
and 
other than Gleason/Hilton Head & the first suit purchased 
from North/Newport sails were the only folks to offer (and actually show 
up) to personally measure the boat as well as deliver the sails and insist 
on sailing the boat so that they could see the sails working and tweak as 
necessary. The UK sails are not cheap, but again at the end of the day you 
only get what you pay for...Just my opinion.
> 
>Jack Fitzgerald
>HONEY
>US12788
>Savannah
> 
>In a message dated 2/24/2013 12:36:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
muckl...@gmail.com writes:
>Just had my main made by Quantum with ~8.4 Challenge sail  cloth...cross cut.
>>Josh Muckley
>>S/V Sea Hawk
>>1989 C&C 37+
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>>On Feb 24, 2013 11:30 AM, "william striegel"  wrote:
>>
>>anything wrong w a cross cut main for my C&C 34? using  challenge 7.62? vs a 
>>tri-radial from north using nordac radian? or is  tri-radial overkill. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Bill Striegel
>>>C&C 34, #419
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Jim Aridas  wrote:
>>>
>>>Chuck,
No Ron did not put me up to it. Funny how small the sailing world is.  He 
is a great guy btw. I have known him for humm... Wow since 1988 when I  got 
my first "big " sail boat (28 Columbia ).
I have raced many times with him over the years. Really knows his  stuff. 
Actually he sold C&C boats before I knew him! 
     I am going with 3DL for a 155% ,replacing a  previous north sail,this 
time with taffeta on one side to hold up better.  They have great discounts 
on 3DL till mar 1st. I am also ordering a #2  (135%) just haven't decided 
on material. Might just go with a norlam  material . Its about a 1k 
difference and I don't think a performance  difference I will notice.
     Mainsails... My boat's sail plan has a tall  skinny main which was the 
design of the time. I believe the 34R is similar  as well. Ron's advice, 
when he designed my main, was to go with norlam. He  felt the main does not 
really drive the boat and 3DL would just be  overkill. After 5 seasons , 
the main still performs well,held its shape,  and looks good. Now if you 
had your mind set on 3DL don't let me sway your  decision. I had a 3DL on 
my Pearson 30 and loved it. 
     The nice part of the norlam is its easier to  flake on the boom. Or 
should I say I'm easier on my crew with the norlam  at flaking time!
     Chuck, feel free to drop my name to Ron when you  speak again. I look 
forward to seeing you in AC. Also my club Metedeconk  River YC is on board 
this year to help sponsor . Also my good friend Jim  Walsh will be PRO. He 
runs a great race!
Jim Aridas 
Galaxy


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On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Chuck S  wrote:


Congratulations!!  
>Did Ron Laneve from North Sails ask you to mention that to 
me?
>I'm considering a new mainsail myself, and we talked just 
yesterday.
>Are you ordering 3DL?
>
>
>Chuck
>Resolute
>1990 
C&C 34R
>Atlantic City, NJ
>
>
>