Re: Stus-List Winter storage of mast

2017-09-20 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
The mast for my C 30 MK I is about 43’ and weighs probably 200+ pounds.  Two 
guys can lift it (when it’s horizontal) but not for very long and they can’t 
move it very far.

When I bought the boat and moved it to my lake, we built some cradles for the 
mast to lay above the deck and cabin top, on centerline, with the weight off 
the pulpits (slightly visible at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTb294M1Z6N0UtV0U 
).

Last offseason I pulled the mast out and laid it along the boat trailer’s frame 
rail and a stack of blocks by the trailer’s tongue, in the boatyard.  I moved 
it there on a separate long flatbed trailer, and my crew and I lifted it off 
the flatbed and laid it on the blocks.

This spring the flatbed wasn’t available, so we built some 2x4 trestles off the 
starboard side of the boat trailer, U-bolted to the bunk supports, and 
transported mast and boat to the gin pole at the same time.  I have a 38’ 
trailer so we were able to do that with minimal overhang on each end.

This coming offseason I’ll pull the mast again, and transport it the same way 
to the boatyard, and probably put it on blocks so it’s out of the way for hull 
painting.  Drainage is a good idea.

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO

> On Sep 20, 2017, at 7:47 AM, PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello all
> 
> I have a c 40  1983 w roller furler harken and I am wondering if anyone 
> brings their mast home on the pulpits  for storage  or is that not recommended
> 
> I have so much work to do on the boat for the winter I would prefer having it 
> at the house.  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter
> 
> Goonie island  1983 C 40 aft cabin
> 
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Re: Stus-List Winter storage of mast

2017-09-20 Thread PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List
Just getting ducks in a row.   as of now he stated he should be able to and I 
have been slotted for 10/18 

I will get final confirmation next week   Otherwise it will be he yard 

Peter


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> On Sep 20, 2017, at 1:13 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> I would love to bring my 40 home but between trees and power lines she is way 
> too tall.   
> 
> I assume you or your transporter have thought of clearences?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
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> 
>  Original message 
> From: PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> Date: 9/20/17 10:34 AM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: PETER OCAMPO <bcwwka...@gmail.com> 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter storage of mast 
> 
> That is great information. 
> 
> I'll just keep the mast at the yard for storage and repair.   I was afraid it 
> might be too heavy 
> 
> My hope is the hauler can bring the boat home but I am waiting for 
> confirmation  otherwise it will have to be kept at the yard adding 1+ hour 
> for any  work days  on the boat
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 20, 2017, at 10:09 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>> The new furler owners manuals often advise supporting the furler in a manner 
>> that will facilitate draining to prevent freeze damage to the extrusion.  I 
>> think this is probably also a good practice for the mast.  I think you are 
>> going to be surprised how heavy the mast is, I would be uncomfortable 
>> putting that much weight on the pulpits.  Build a wooden cradle that sits on 
>> the boat and braces off the toe rail.  Probably need 4 or 5.  Your mast is 
>> probably going to be close to 60' length so be careful how much extends out 
>> the front and back.  If you have no mast work to do you'll probably be able 
>> to safely store it and the furler at the boat yard.
>> 
>> How are you getting the boat home?
>> 
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD 
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2017 9:48 AM, "PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List" 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all
>>> 
>>> I have a c 40  1983 w roller furler harken and I am wondering if anyone 
>>> brings their mast home on the pulpits  for storage  or is that not 
>>> recommended
>>> 
>>> I have so much work to do on the boat for the winter I would prefer having 
>>> it at the house.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> Goonie island  1983 C 40 aft cabin
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Winter storage of mast

2017-09-20 Thread David via CnC-List
I would love to bring my 40 home but between trees and power lines she is way 
too tall.

I assume you or your transporter have thought of clearences?


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 9/20/17 10:34 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: PETER OCAMPO <bcwwka...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter storage of mast

That is great information.

I'll just keep the mast at the yard for storage and repair.   I was afraid it 
might be too heavy

My hope is the hauler can bring the boat home but I am waiting for confirmation 
 otherwise it will have to be kept at the yard adding 1+ hour for any  work 
days  on the boat

Thanks

Peter



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On Sep 20, 2017, at 10:09 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

The new furler owners manuals often advise supporting the furler in a manner 
that will facilitate draining to prevent freeze damage to the extrusion.  I 
think this is probably also a good practice for the mast.  I think you are 
going to be surprised how heavy the mast is, I would be uncomfortable putting 
that much weight on the pulpits.  Build a wooden cradle that sits on the boat 
and braces off the toe rail.  Probably need 4 or 5.  Your mast is probably 
going to be close to 60' length so be careful how much extends out the front 
and back.  If you have no mast work to do you'll probably be able to safely 
store it and the furler at the boat yard.

How are you getting the boat home?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sep 20, 2017 9:48 AM, "PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hello all

I have a c 40  1983 w roller furler harken and I am wondering if anyone 
brings their mast home on the pulpits  for storage  or is that not recommended

I have so much work to do on the boat for the winter I would prefer having it 
at the house.

Thanks

Peter

Goonie island  1983 C 40 aft cabin

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Re: Stus-List Winter storage of mast

2017-09-20 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Talking about preventing freezing – make sure that your spreaders are draining 
water (open end down). The natural thing is to hand them with the open end up, 
but this is the wrong way.

Marek

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List
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Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter storage of mast

The new furler owners manuals often advise supporting the furler in a manner 
that will facilitate draining to prevent freeze damage to the extrusion.  I 
think this is probably also a good practice for the mast.  I think you are 
going to be surprised how heavy the mast is, I would be uncomfortable putting 
that much weight on the pulpits.  Build a wooden cradle that sits on the boat 
and braces off the toe rail.  Probably need 4 or 5.  Your mast is probably 
going to be close to 60' length so be careful how much extends out the front 
and back.  If you have no mast work to do you'll probably be able to safely 
store it and the furler at the boat yard.

How are you getting the boat home?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sep 20, 2017 9:48 AM, "PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Hello all

I have a c 40  1983 w roller furler harken and I am wondering if anyone 
brings their mast home on the pulpits  for storage  or is that not recommended

I have so much work to do on the boat for the winter I would prefer having it 
at the house.

Thanks

Peter

Goonie island  1983 C 40 aft cabin

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Re: Stus-List Winter storage of mast

2017-09-20 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Hi Peter

You may also wish to check covenants om your neighbourhood before proceeding.  
I know our area limits size of boats stored in yard to 26 ft and under

Mike

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter storage of mast

That is great information.

I'll just keep the mast at the yard for storage and repair.   I was afraid it 
might be too heavy

My hope is the hauler can bring the boat home but I am waiting for confirmation 
 otherwise it will have to be kept at the yard adding 1+ hour for any  work 
days  on the boat

Thanks

Peter



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2017, at 10:09 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
The new furler owners manuals often advise supporting the furler in a manner 
that will facilitate draining to prevent freeze damage to the extrusion.  I 
think this is probably also a good practice for the mast.  I think you are 
going to be surprised how heavy the mast is, I would be uncomfortable putting 
that much weight on the pulpits.  Build a wooden cradle that sits on the boat 
and braces off the toe rail.  Probably need 4 or 5.  Your mast is probably 
going to be close to 60' length so be careful how much extends out the front 
and back.  If you have no mast work to do you'll probably be able to safely 
store it and the furler at the boat yard.

How are you getting the boat home?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sep 20, 2017 9:48 AM, "PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hello all

I have a c 40  1983 w roller furler harken and I am wondering if anyone 
brings their mast home on the pulpits  for storage  or is that not recommended

I have so much work to do on the boat for the winter I would prefer having it 
at the house.

Thanks

Peter

Goonie island  1983 C 40 aft cabin

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Re: Stus-List Winter storage of mast

2017-09-20 Thread PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List
That is great information. 

I'll just keep the mast at the yard for storage and repair.   I was afraid it 
might be too heavy 

My hope is the hauler can bring the boat home but I am waiting for confirmation 
 otherwise it will have to be kept at the yard adding 1+ hour for any  work 
days  on the boat

Thanks

Peter



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2017, at 10:09 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> The new furler owners manuals often advise supporting the furler in a manner 
> that will facilitate draining to prevent freeze damage to the extrusion.  I 
> think this is probably also a good practice for the mast.  I think you are 
> going to be surprised how heavy the mast is, I would be uncomfortable putting 
> that much weight on the pulpits.  Build a wooden cradle that sits on the boat 
> and braces off the toe rail.  Probably need 4 or 5.  Your mast is probably 
> going to be close to 60' length so be careful how much extends out the front 
> and back.  If you have no mast work to do you'll probably be able to safely 
> store it and the furler at the boat yard.
> 
> How are you getting the boat home?
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD 
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2017 9:48 AM, "PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all
>> 
>> I have a c 40  1983 w roller furler harken and I am wondering if anyone 
>> brings their mast home on the pulpits  for storage  or is that not 
>> recommended
>> 
>> I have so much work to do on the boat for the winter I would prefer having 
>> it at the house.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> Goonie island  1983 C 40 aft cabin
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List Winter storage of mast

2017-09-20 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The new furler owners manuals often advise supporting the furler in a
manner that will facilitate draining to prevent freeze damage to the
extrusion.  I think this is probably also a good practice for the mast.  I
think you are going to be surprised how heavy the mast is, I would be
uncomfortable putting that much weight on the pulpits.  Build a wooden
cradle that sits on the boat and braces off the toe rail.  Probably need 4
or 5.  Your mast is probably going to be close to 60' length so be careful
how much extends out the front and back.  If you have no mast work to do
you'll probably be able to safely store it and the furler at the boat yard.

How are you getting the boat home?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sep 20, 2017 9:48 AM, "PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List" 
wrote:

>
> Hello all
>
> I have a c 40  1983 w roller furler harken and I am wondering if anyone
> brings their mast home on the pulpits  for storage  or is that not
> recommended
>
> I have so much work to do on the boat for the winter I would prefer having
> it at the house.
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter
>
> Goonie island  1983 C 40 aft cabin
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List Winter storage of mast

2017-09-20 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Peter,


I am not sure about the pulpits, but many people store masts on the boat. I 
would support it separately (i.e. on some supports, where the mast can be more 
securely attached) and use a middle support, as well (somewhere around the 
spreaders, probably resting on the mast step, unless your mast is keel stepped).


You may also want to raise it above the deck, so that you have access to the 
cabin (and the cockpit) during the winter.


If you have a winter cover that does not use the mast as support, you may want 
to take it off the boat and support it on three sawhorses.

Make sure that you support the furler properly, especially the drum, as the 
furler is longer than the mast (again, unless you have a keel stepped mast). I 
use a length of a 2x3 that goes into the mast and extends about 1 m, to which i 
tie the furler drum.

Marek
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa, ON


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Subject: Stus-List Winter storage of mast


Hello all

I have a c 40  1983 w roller furler harken and I am wondering if anyone 
brings their mast home on the pulpits  for storage  or is that not recommended

I have so much work to do on the boat for the winter I would prefer having it 
at the house.

Thanks

Peter

Goonie island  1983 C 40 aft cabin

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