Re: Stus-List marine insurance

2018-06-19 Thread David via CnC-List
Kevin Malloy  339 933 0666


David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC

(401) 419-4650



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Thanks for the heads up David.  I’ll need to investigate that further.  Who is 
your broker?

- -
Nathan Post
+1 781-605-8671

On Jun 19, 2018, at 11:41 AM, David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Nathan,


FYI...BoatUS now has (they changed carriers last year) an aggressive 
depreciation schedule to the point that my 1981 model was going to get  no more 
than 20% of replacement value on parts.


No happening.  Changed to Berkley through my very good sailor/broker who is 
local  to you and I.



David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC

(401) 419-4650



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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Nathan Post
Subject: Re: Stus-List marine insurance

I just got a new insurance policy for our 1981 C 34 from BoatU.S.  They have 
not required a survey and the application was pretty straight forward - they 
did however, want recent detailed pictures of the interior, exterior and 
rigging of the boat which I was able to e-mail to the agent.  The policy 
includes coverage for cruising coastal waters of Canada, but I don't know if 
they offer policies for boats based in Canada.
Nathan

~~~
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+1 (781)  605-8671

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
My experience is that insurance companies require a survey when you change 
companies/policies.  They haven’t bothered me otherwise.

From: robert via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:06 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: robert<mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca> ; Jeff 
Bechtel<mailto:jeff.bech...@gmail.com>
Subject: Stus-List marine insurance

Jeff:

My understanding is that most marine insurance companies require a survey every 
five (5) years  after a vessel reaches 15 years of age.

I am not allowed to keep a vessel at my club without providing proof of 
insurancei.e. for my benefit and every other club member.

Trusting this is helpful.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2018-06-19 11:00 AM, Jeff Bechtel via CnC-List wrote:
I'm looking for any advice on marine insurance for a 1977 C M1 that has no 
current survey. I'm in Toronto, Ontario.
I'd prefer not to pull the boat out of the water until the fall, but all the 
insurance companies want an out of water survey to insure.
Any advice?
Jeff




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Re: Stus-List marine insurance

2018-06-19 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Holy crap!  Almost 11 kts in a 30-1!  Nice race, Michael!

Cheers,
Randy

> On Jun 19, 2018, at 11:57 AM, Michael Brown via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Last Wednesday a storm blew through Ontario also. I was not sure if RC would 
> start a race but a
> few boats showed up so the set a 1.8 mile leg once around. I knew the wind 
> was up, sustained over
> 20 kts so went out with a 90% blade and full main. After a couple of gusts we 
> reefed the main.
> 
> It hit 42 kts upwind but balance was OK. Boat windage is pretty high and even 
> with only 3 miles fetch
> the waves were surprisingly hard so we angled off a bit to not pound so much. 
>  We average around
> 5.4 kts upwind ( not VMG ) which surprised me. Tacking was an art, needed to 
> bow down slightly to
> get 6 knots before coming up.
> 
> Downwind was harder, had to run wider angles to depower the main. I think if 
> it was possible to drop
> it we would have and run the jib only. Top speed when a square wave caught us 
> and pushed was 10.9 kts,
> think that was the fastest I have seen Windburn go.
> 
> We corrected over the bigger boats that had a much faster downwind, including 
> a Bene 36.7, J/105 and J/35.
> The only boat that is similar to us is a C 3/4 ton ( race version of the 33 
> ) which we beat by over an hour level.
> 
> Two waves, or maybe spray, got lifted so much they blew over the boat without 
> soaking us. I have no idea what
> the winds got to because during the 42+ knot gust the end of the MHU blew 
> off. When the wind lifts the spray
> off the waves it is usually above 45 knots as a guess.
> 
> For most boats docking was just as exciting.
> 
> http://www.thenyc.com/display-race/NWIyOTQwMTk2YWZjZjkuNTY5NTQ5MjA0NDc,/
> 
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C 30-1
> 
> 
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:49:18 -0600 
> From: Randy Stafford  
> 
> +1.  Changed to Progressive from BoatUS this year because BoatUS prices kept 
> going up and their coverages kept going down. 
> 
> On the survey question, I remember doing a ?self survey? for BoatUS, and also 
> sending them the professional pre-purchase survey I had done on my boat.  For 
> Progressive, I also sent the pre-purchase survey.  I haven?t had the boat for 
> five years yet, so I don?t know if I?ll get pestered.  My yacht club requires 
> proof of insurance for racing, but I don?t think my marina does for slippage. 
> 
> Incidentally, last Wednesday night I had the wildest race on Grenadine since 
> buying her.  Wind jumped from 10mph to 35mph in the snap of a finger, a few 
> minutes after the start.  Outflow from a big storm cell to the southeast, I 
> think.  I had my drifter (150% lightweight genoa) and full main up for the 
> 10mph conditions.  We could see the puff on the water but couldn?t tell how 
> strong it was until we got in it - we were one of the first boats to get in 
> it.  Rounded up hard four times, buried the side deck to the cabintop window, 
> and tore the clew cringle out of the drifter before I could even think to 
> change headsails.  Managed to maintain position in the race under main alone 
> while we switched to the 130.  Then had an accidental gybe and the boom 
> knocked a crewman into the cabin (lesson: don?t sail wing and wing in that 
> strong of wind).  Still finished second despite the chaos.  Sail is already 
> fixed, crewman has recovered.  No lasting damage, some lessons learned, and 
> the 30-1 prov 
> e 
> d her stiffness again. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Randy Stafford 
> S/V Grenadine 
> C 30-1 #7 
> Ken Caryl, CO 
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Re: Stus-List marine insurance

2018-06-19 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List

Last Wednesday a storm blew through Ontario also. I was not sure if RC would 
start a race but a
few boats showed up so the set a 1.8 mile leg once around. I knew the wind was 
up, sustained over
20 kts so went out with a 90% blade and full main. After a couple of gusts we 
reefed the main.


It hit 42 kts upwind but balance was OK. Boat windage is pretty high and even 
with only 3 miles fetch
the waves were surprisingly hard so we angled off a bit to not pound so much.  
We average around
5.4 kts upwind ( not VMG ) which surprised me. Tacking was an art, needed to 
bow down slightly to
get 6 knots before coming up.


Downwind was harder, had to run wider angles to depower the main. I think if it 
was possible to drop
it we would have and run the jib only. Top speed when a square wave caught us 
and pushed was 10.9 kts,
think that was the fastest I have seen Windburn go.


We corrected over the bigger boats that had a much faster downwind, including a 
Bene 36.7, J/105 and J/35.
The only boat that is similar to us is a C 3/4 ton ( race version of the 33 ) 
which we beat by over an hour level.


Two waves, or maybe spray, got lifted so much they blew over the boat without 
soaking us. I have no idea what
the winds got to because during the 42+ knot gust the end of the MHU blew off. 
When the wind lifts the spray
off the waves it is usually above 45 knots as a guess.


For most boats docking was just as exciting.


http://www.thenyc.com/display-race/NWIyOTQwMTk2YWZjZjkuNTY5NTQ5MjA0NDc,/



Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1




Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:49:18 -0600 
From: Randy Stafford  

+1.  Changed to Progressive from BoatUS this year because BoatUS prices kept 
going up and their coverages kept going down. 
 
On the survey question, I remember doing a ?self survey? for BoatUS, and also 
sending them the professional pre-purchase survey I had done on my boat.  For 
Progressive, I also sent the pre-purchase survey.  I haven?t had the boat for 
five years yet, so I don?t know if I?ll get pestered.  My yacht club requires 
proof of insurance for racing, but I don?t think my marina does for slippage. 
 
Incidentally, last Wednesday night I had the wildest race on Grenadine since 
buying her.  Wind jumped from 10mph to 35mph in the snap of a finger, a few 
minutes after the start.  Outflow from a big storm cell to the southeast, I 
think.  I had my drifter (150% lightweight genoa) and full main up for the 
10mph conditions.  We could see the puff on the water but couldn?t tell how 
strong it was until we got in it - we were one of the first boats to get in it. 
 Rounded up hard four times, buried the side deck to the cabintop window, and 
tore the clew cringle out of the drifter before I could even think to change 
headsails.  Managed to maintain position in the race under main alone while we 
switched to the 130.  Then had an accidental gybe and the boom knocked a 
crewman into the cabin (lesson: don?t sail wing and wing in that strong of 
wind).  Still finished second despite the chaos.  Sail is already fixed, 
crewman has recovered.  No lasting damage, some lessons learned, and the 30-1 
prov 
 e 
 d her stiffness again. 
 
Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 
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Re: Stus-List marine insurance

2018-06-19 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Hi Randy

Congrats on the second and on finishing in those conditions.

I have one question though.  Since you sail in MPH do you measure ski racing 
speed in knots?

Mike Hoyt
Halifax, NS
Persistence


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Stafford via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:49 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Randy Stafford
Subject: Re: Stus-List marine insurance

+1.  Changed to Progressive from BoatUS this year because BoatUS prices kept 
going up and their coverages kept going down.

On the survey question, I remember doing a “self survey” for BoatUS, and also 
sending them the professional pre-purchase survey I had done on my boat.  For 
Progressive, I also sent the pre-purchase survey.  I haven’t had the boat for 
five years yet, so I don’t know if I’ll get pestered.  My yacht club requires 
proof of insurance for racing, but I don’t think my marina does for slippage.

Incidentally, last Wednesday night I had the wildest race on Grenadine since 
buying her.  Wind jumped from 10mph to 35mph in the snap of a finger, a few 
minutes after the start.  Outflow from a big storm cell to the southeast, I 
think.  I had my drifter (150% lightweight genoa) and full main up for the 
10mph conditions.  We could see the puff on the water but couldn’t tell how 
strong it was until we got in it - we were one of the first boats to get in it. 
 Rounded up hard four times, buried the side deck to the cabintop window, and 
tore the clew cringle out of the drifter before I could even think to change 
headsails.  Managed to maintain position in the race under main alone while we 
switched to the 130.  Then had an accidental gybe and the boom knocked a 
crewman into the cabin (lesson: don’t sail wing and wing in that strong of 
wind).  Still finished second despite the chaos.  Sail is already fixed, 
crewman has recovered.  No lasting damage, some lessons learned, and the 30-1 
proved her stiffness again.

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO


On Jun 19, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I changed to Travelers for this reason.

From: David via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:41 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: David<mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List marine insurance

Nathan,

FYI...BoatUS now has (they changed carriers last year) an aggressive 
depreciation schedule to the point that my 1981 model was going to get  no more 
than 20% of replacement value on parts.

No happening.  Changed to Berkley through my very good sailor/broker who is 
local  to you and I.


David F. Risch, J. D.
Gulf Stream Associates, LLC
(401) 419-4650


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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Nathan Post
Subject: Re: Stus-List marine insurance

I just got a new insurance policy for our 1981 C 34 from BoatU.S.  They have 
not required a survey and the application was pretty straight forward - they 
did however, want recent detailed pictures of the interior, exterior and 
rigging of the boat which I was able to e-mail to the agent.  The policy 
includes coverage for cruising coastal waters of Canada, but I don't know if 
they offer policies for boats based in Canada.
Nathan

~~~
Nathan Post
+1 (781)  605-8671

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

My experience is that insurance companies require a survey when you change 
companies/policies.  They haven’t bothered me otherwise.

From: robert via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:06 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: robert<mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca> ; Jeff 
Bechtel<mailto:jeff.bech...@gmail.com>
Subject: Stus-List marine insurance

Jeff:

My understanding is that most marine insurance companies require a survey every 
five (5) years  after a vessel reaches 15 years of age.

I am not allowed to keep a vessel at my club without providing proof of 
insurancei.e. for my benefit and every other club member.

Trusting this is helpful.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2018-06-19 11:00 AM, Jeff Bechtel via CnC-List wrote:
I'm looking for any advice on marine insurance for a 1977 C M1 that has no 
current survey. I'm in Toronto, Ontario.
I'd prefer not to pull the boat out of the water until the fall, but all the 
insurance companies want an out of water survey to insure.
Any advice?
Jeff




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Re: Stus-List marine insurance

2018-06-19 Thread Nathan Post via CnC-List
Thanks for the heads up David.  I’ll need to investigate that further.  Who is 
your broker?

- -
Nathan Post
+1 781-605-8671

> On Jun 19, 2018, at 11:41 AM, David via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Nathan,
> 
> FYI...BoatUS now has (they changed carriers last year) an aggressive 
> depreciation schedule to the point that my 1981 model was going to get  no 
> more than 20% of replacement value on parts.
> 
> No happening.  Changed to Berkley through my very good sailor/broker who is 
> local  to you and I.
> 
> 
> David F. Risch, J. D.
> 
> Gulf Stream Associates, LLC  
> 
> (401) 419-4650 
> 
> 
>  
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Nathan Post via 
> CnC-List 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:34 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Nathan Post
> Subject: Re: Stus-List marine insurance
>  
> I just got a new insurance policy for our 1981 C 34 from BoatU.S.  They 
> have not required a survey and the application was pretty straight forward - 
> they did however, want recent detailed pictures of the interior, exterior and 
> rigging of the boat which I was able to e-mail to the agent.  The policy 
> includes coverage for cruising coastal waters of Canada, but I don't know if 
> they offer policies for boats based in Canada.
> Nathan
> 
> ~~~
> Nathan Post
> +1 (781)  605-8671
> 
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> My experience is that insurance companies require a survey when you change 
> companies/policies.  They haven’t bothered me otherwise.
>  
> From: robert via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:06 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: robert ; Jeff Bechtel
> Subject: Stus-List marine insurance
>  
> Jeff:
> 
> My understanding is that most marine insurance companies require a survey 
> every five (5) years  after a vessel reaches 15 years of age.
> 
> I am not allowed to keep a vessel at my club without providing proof of 
> insurancei.e. for my benefit and every other club member.
> 
> Trusting this is helpful.
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S. 
> 
>> On 2018-06-19 11:00 AM, Jeff Bechtel via CnC-List wrote:
>> I'm looking for any advice on marine insurance for a 1977 C M1 that has 
>> no current survey. I'm in Toronto, Ontario.
>> I'd prefer not to pull the boat out of the water until the fall, but all the 
>> insurance companies want an out of water survey to insure.
>> Any advice?
>> Jeff
>>  
>> 
>> 
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>> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
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>> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: Stus-List marine insurance

2018-06-19 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
+1.  Changed to Progressive from BoatUS this year because BoatUS prices kept 
going up and their coverages kept going down.

On the survey question, I remember doing a “self survey” for BoatUS, and also 
sending them the professional pre-purchase survey I had done on my boat.  For 
Progressive, I also sent the pre-purchase survey.  I haven’t had the boat for 
five years yet, so I don’t know if I’ll get pestered.  My yacht club requires 
proof of insurance for racing, but I don’t think my marina does for slippage.

Incidentally, last Wednesday night I had the wildest race on Grenadine since 
buying her.  Wind jumped from 10mph to 35mph in the snap of a finger, a few 
minutes after the start.  Outflow from a big storm cell to the southeast, I 
think.  I had my drifter (150% lightweight genoa) and full main up for the 
10mph conditions.  We could see the puff on the water but couldn’t tell how 
strong it was until we got in it - we were one of the first boats to get in it. 
 Rounded up hard four times, buried the side deck to the cabintop window, and 
tore the clew cringle out of the drifter before I could even think to change 
headsails.  Managed to maintain position in the race under main alone while we 
switched to the 130.  Then had an accidental gybe and the boom knocked a 
crewman into the cabin (lesson: don’t sail wing and wing in that strong of 
wind).  Still finished second despite the chaos.  Sail is already fixed, 
crewman has recovered.  No lasting damage, some lessons learned, and the 30-1 
proved her stiffness again.

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO

> On Jun 19, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I changed to Travelers for this reason.
>  
> From: David via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:41 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: David <mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List marine insurance
>  
> Nathan,
>  
> FYI...BoatUS now has (they changed carriers last year) an aggressive 
> depreciation schedule to the point that my 1981 model was going to get  no 
> more than 20% of replacement value on parts.
>  
> No happening.  Changed to Berkley through my very good sailor/broker who is 
> local  to you and I.
>  
>  
> David F. Risch, J. D.
> Gulf Stream Associates, LLC  
> (401) 419-4650 
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Nathan Post via 
> CnC-List 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:34 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Nathan Post
> Subject: Re: Stus-List marine insurance
>  
> I just got a new insurance policy for our 1981 C 34 from BoatU.S.  They 
> have not required a survey and the application was pretty straight forward - 
> they did however, want recent detailed pictures of the interior, exterior and 
> rigging of the boat which I was able to e-mail to the agent.  The policy 
> includes coverage for cruising coastal waters of Canada, but I don't know if 
> they offer policies for boats based in Canada.
> Nathan
>  
> ~~~
> Nathan Post
> +1 (781)  605-8671
>  
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> My experience is that insurance companies require a survey when you change 
>> companies/policies.  They haven’t bothered me otherwise.
>>  
>> From: robert via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:06 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Cc: robert <mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca> ; Jeff Bechtel 
>> <mailto:jeff.bech...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Stus-List marine insurance
>>  
>> Jeff:
>> 
>> My understanding is that most marine insurance companies require a survey 
>> every five (5) years  after a vessel reaches 15 years of age.
>> 
>> I am not allowed to keep a vessel at my club without providing proof of 
>> insurancei.e. for my benefit and every other club member.
>> 
>> Trusting this is helpful.
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S. 
>> 
>> On 2018-06-19 11:00 AM, Jeff Bechtel via CnC-List wrote:
>>> I'm looking for any advice on marine insurance for a 1977 C M1 that has 
>>> no current survey. I'm in Toronto, Ontario.
>>> I'd prefer not to pull the boat out of the water until the fall, but all 
>>> the insurance companies want an out of water survey to insure.
>>> Any advice?
>>> Jeff
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> 
>>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each 

Re: Stus-List marine insurance

2018-06-19 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I changed to Travelers for this reason.

From: David via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:41 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: David 
Subject: Re: Stus-List marine insurance

Nathan,



FYI...BoatUS now has (they changed carriers last year) an aggressive 
depreciation schedule to the point that my 1981 model was going to get  no more 
than 20% of replacement value on parts.



No happening.  Changed to Berkley through my very good sailor/broker who is 
local  to you and I.





David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC  


(401) 419-4650 








From: CnC-List  on behalf of Nathan Post via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:34 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Nathan Post
Subject: Re: Stus-List marine insurance 

I just got a new insurance policy for our 1981 C 34 from BoatU.S.  They have 
not required a survey and the application was pretty straight forward - they 
did however, want recent detailed pictures of the interior, exterior and 
rigging of the boat which I was able to e-mail to the agent.  The policy 
includes coverage for cruising coastal waters of Canada, but I don't know if 
they offer policies for boats based in Canada.
Nathan


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On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  My experience is that insurance companies require a survey when you change 
companies/policies.  They haven’t bothered me otherwise.

  From: robert via CnC-List 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:06 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: robert ; Jeff Bechtel 
  Subject: Stus-List marine insurance

  Jeff:

  My understanding is that most marine insurance companies require a survey 
every five (5) years  after a vessel reaches 15 years of age.

  I am not allowed to keep a vessel at my club without providing proof of 
insurancei.e. for my benefit and every other club member.

  Trusting this is helpful.

  Rob Abbott
  AZURA
  C 32 - 84
  Halifax, N.S. 


  On 2018-06-19 11:00 AM, Jeff Bechtel via CnC-List wrote:

I'm looking for any advice on marine insurance for a 1977 C M1 that has 
no current survey. I'm in Toronto, Ontario. 
I'd prefer not to pull the boat out of the water until the fall, but all 
the insurance companies want an out of water survey to insure.
Any advice?
Jeff


 

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Re: Stus-List marine insurance

2018-06-19 Thread David via CnC-List
Nathan,


FYI...BoatUS now has (they changed carriers last year) an aggressive 
depreciation schedule to the point that my 1981 model was going to get  no more 
than 20% of replacement value on parts.


No happening.  Changed to Berkley through my very good sailor/broker who is 
local  to you and I.



David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC

(401) 419-4650



From: CnC-List  on behalf of Nathan Post via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:34 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Nathan Post
Subject: Re: Stus-List marine insurance

I just got a new insurance policy for our 1981 C 34 from BoatU.S.  They have 
not required a survey and the application was pretty straight forward - they 
did however, want recent detailed pictures of the interior, exterior and 
rigging of the boat which I was able to e-mail to the agent.  The policy 
includes coverage for cruising coastal waters of Canada, but I don't know if 
they offer policies for boats based in Canada.
Nathan

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On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
My experience is that insurance companies require a survey when you change 
companies/policies.  They haven’t bothered me otherwise.

From: robert via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:06 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: robert<mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca> ; Jeff 
Bechtel<mailto:jeff.bech...@gmail.com>
Subject: Stus-List marine insurance

Jeff:

My understanding is that most marine insurance companies require a survey every 
five (5) years  after a vessel reaches 15 years of age.

I am not allowed to keep a vessel at my club without providing proof of 
insurancei.e. for my benefit and every other club member.

Trusting this is helpful.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2018-06-19 11:00 AM, Jeff Bechtel via CnC-List wrote:
I'm looking for any advice on marine insurance for a 1977 C M1 that has no 
current survey. I'm in Toronto, Ontario.
I'd prefer not to pull the boat out of the water until the fall, but all the 
insurance companies want an out of water survey to insure.
Any advice?
Jeff




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Re: Stus-List marine insurance

2018-06-19 Thread Nathan Post via CnC-List
I just got a new insurance policy for our 1981 C 34 from BoatU.S.  They
have not required a survey and the application was pretty straight forward
- they did however, want recent detailed pictures of the interior, exterior
and rigging of the boat which I was able to e-mail to the agent.  The
policy includes coverage for cruising coastal waters of Canada, but I don't
know if they offer policies for boats based in Canada.
Nathan

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+1 (781)  605-8671

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My experience is that insurance companies require a survey when you change
> companies/policies.  They haven’t bothered me otherwise.
>
> *From:* robert via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:06 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* robert  ; Jeff Bechtel
> 
> *Subject:* Stus-List marine insurance
>
> Jeff:
>
> My understanding is that most marine insurance companies require a survey
> every five (5) years  after a vessel reaches 15 years of age.
>
> I am not allowed to keep a vessel at my club without providing proof of
> insurancei.e. for my benefit and every other club member.
>
> Trusting this is helpful.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
> On 2018-06-19 11:00 AM, Jeff Bechtel via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I'm looking for any advice on marine insurance for a 1977 C M1 that
> has no current survey. I'm in Toronto, Ontario.
> I'd prefer not to pull the boat out of the water until the fall, but all
> the insurance companies want an out of water survey to insure.
> Any advice?
> Jeff
>
>
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Re: Stus-List marine insurance

2018-06-19 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
My experience is that insurance companies require a survey when you change 
companies/policies.  They haven’t bothered me otherwise.

From: robert via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:06 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: robert ; Jeff Bechtel 
Subject: Stus-List marine insurance

Jeff:

My understanding is that most marine insurance companies require a survey every 
five (5) years  after a vessel reaches 15 years of age.

I am not allowed to keep a vessel at my club without providing proof of 
insurancei.e. for my benefit and every other club member.

Trusting this is helpful.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S. 


On 2018-06-19 11:00 AM, Jeff Bechtel via CnC-List wrote:

  I'm looking for any advice on marine insurance for a 1977 C M1 that has 
no current survey. I'm in Toronto, Ontario. 
  I'd prefer not to pull the boat out of the water until the fall, but all the 
insurance companies want an out of water survey to insure.
  Any advice?
  Jeff


   

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Re: Stus-List marine insurance

2018-06-19 Thread jhnelson24 via CnC-List
Yep they ask for one for mine every 5 years as well. Ask around your club 
indicating you need an insurance survey and you'll likely find someone 
reasonably priced. 
I'm not that familiar with Toronto market anymore. Perhaps some one at sail 
Ontario could help. Not sure if Glenn Lethbridge is still exec dir  there or 
not.  Sailon.orgI believe is their website
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: robert via CnC-List 
 Date: 2018-06-19  11:06  (GMT-04:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: robert , Jeff Bechtel 
 Subject: Stus-List marine insurance 

Jeff:



My understanding is that most marine insurance companies require a
survey every five (5) years  after a vessel reaches 15 years of age.



I am not allowed to keep a vessel at my club without providing proof
of insurancei.e. for my benefit and every other club member.



Trusting this is helpful.



Rob Abbott

AZURA

C 32 - 84

Halifax, N.S. 



On 2018-06-19 11:00 AM, Jeff Bechtel
  via CnC-List wrote:



  
  I'm looking for any advice on marine insurance for
a 1977 C M1 that has no current survey. I'm in Toronto,
Ontario.
I'd prefer not to pull the boat out of the water until the
  fall, but all the insurance companies want an out of water
  survey to insure.
Any advice?
Jeff



  
  

  
  

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