Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern
I was the one going downwind in 50+. It was actually fun and easy. We set jib behind a cliff before being exposed to the full force of the wind and the waves were having the tops ripped off by the wind, so seas were not high. The boat balanced just fine with the working jib and held a steady 10-11 knots boatspeed. What was NOT fun and easy was getting the sail down and getting back upwind. That was quite the wrestling match and I was glad to have a helper. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bailey White via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 6:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bailey White Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern I went sailing with friends recently in heavy air and the winds built to 35 to 40 on my old C 36. I had thought I would set a reefed main but found instead that I kept rolling the #3 up instead and never wanted for a main. The helm still felt good. Here is a quick video a friend took that day: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ji7eivusac7qf9s/heavyairupwind.mov?dl=0 Please forgive the fender that rolled overboard and dragged in the video, the sail trim, etc. I know better but was busy with non-sailing friends and happy to keep everyone safe. The boat performed well and pumping the backstay kept the jib from being too full. I only regret that I did not furl enough soon enough and did not furl enough overall even though I was at probably 50% furl. That was the most wind I've sailed this boat in. I think the sturdy masthead rig is good without a main if need be. A main would help reduce backstay loading as part of the load would be transmitted through the mainsheet. My mainsheet is on the cabin top and doesn't have the leverage of the backstay though. I believe it was Dennis who mentioned he sailed in 50+ downwind. wow. I haven't gotten this boat going that fast. I am a big fan of jib only in heavy air downwind. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern
True that...and that's what makes it fun. David F. Risch, J. D. Gulf Stream Associates, LLC (401) 419-4650 From: CnC-List on behalf of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 12:30 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern Not so. When a race is 400-700 or more miles long, you get the weather you get. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 11:56 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern Gentlemen may not sail to weather, but a wise sailor is probably not racing when there are gale warnings out… A deep double reefed main and a small blade or storm headsail will get you to hull speed in those conditions, and greatly reduce the load on the rigging. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 12:25 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: cenel...@aol.com<mailto:cenel...@aol.com> Subject: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern Agree with philosophy of not using main in heavy winds astern. OTOH, I wonder about the unbalanced forces on the stays/boat when a stern wind is 30+ knots even with some of the 'telephone pole' masts on some C when only a head sail is flown. Mine mast is rather bendy with check stays and in high winds downwind, in addition to keeping her under control, I admit to some fear of a gravity storm if I only used the head sail (or with both sails for that matter!). Charlie Nelson Water Phantom C 36 XL/kcb ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern
Not so. When a race is 400-700 or more miles long, you get the weather you get. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 11:56 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern Gentlemen may not sail to weather, but a wise sailor is probably not racing when there are gale warnings out… A deep double reefed main and a small blade or storm headsail will get you to hull speed in those conditions, and greatly reduce the load on the rigging. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 12:25 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: cenel...@aol.com<mailto:cenel...@aol.com> Subject: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern Agree with philosophy of not using main in heavy winds astern. OTOH, I wonder about the unbalanced forces on the stays/boat when a stern wind is 30+ knots even with some of the 'telephone pole' masts on some C when only a head sail is flown. Mine mast is rather bendy with check stays and in high winds downwind, in addition to keeping her under control, I admit to some fear of a gravity storm if I only used the head sail (or with both sails for that matter!). Charlie Nelson Water Phantom C 36 XL/kcb ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern
Unless the mast is raked forward and the backstay is loose and the mast was able to be inverted and your baby is loose...you will be fine. Get Outlook for Android From: CnC-List on behalf of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 11:04:42 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern No question, it would be great to hear form the people who design these masts, but I don’t believe that in a normal boat, the mast would be weakened by dropping the main. >From a lay person point of view, when running, the main is not supporting the >mast much. I can imagine that it does, to a degree, when you are close to wind >(the main plus the main sheet provide an extra support of the mast from the >aft). Marek From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Morgan Ellis via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 16:19 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Morgan Ellis Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern I would love to hear Mr. Ball chime in on this thread, if possible, from a mast design point of view. I have been told by a very experienced offshore sailor and the instructor of Offshore Sea Survival courses, that the masts are designed to have a mainsail hoisted and are not stable or properly supported without it. The instructor stated that if you were to drop the main because of high winds that you should be hoisting a storm sail in its place, if for no other reason than to support the mast. Since then the only time I will run on jib alone is in light air drifting around the harbour for an evening pleasure cruise. Regards, Morgan Ellis s/v Meandher ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern
No question, it would be great to hear form the people who design these masts, but I don’t believe that in a normal boat, the mast would be weakened by dropping the main. From a lay person point of view, when running, the main is not supporting the mast much. I can imagine that it does, to a degree, when you are close to wind (the main plus the main sheet provide an extra support of the mast from the aft). Marek From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Morgan Ellis via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 16:19 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Morgan Ellis Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern I would love to hear Mr. Ball chime in on this thread, if possible, from a mast design point of view. I have been told by a very experienced offshore sailor and the instructor of Offshore Sea Survival courses, that the masts are designed to have a mainsail hoisted and are not stable or properly supported without it. The instructor stated that if you were to drop the main because of high winds that you should be hoisting a storm sail in its place, if for no other reason than to support the mast. Since then the only time I will run on jib alone is in light air drifting around the harbour for an evening pleasure cruise. Regards, Morgan Ellis s/v Meandher ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern
Morgan, I would say that this instructor is sort of right. Those four-spreader racing noodles are designed to have a main on...and that sail probably won't have a reef, even. The main does support the mast to a large extent. Those boats shouldn't be going out in strong offshore conditions. Witness the Bermuda Race three years ago where even 72-footers didn't start because they thought it was going to be rough. But C are much more robust. The masts on my 40 and my Dads 27 were trees. The masthead rig on my current boat is less strong, but still designed for use on an ocean going yacht. My plan for very strong conditions is to drop the main completely and run a hank-on storm jib on my inner forestay. To stabilize the mast I will have the babystay and backstay tight enough to induce aft bend but they won't be totally wound on. The running back stays, which support the mast at the third set of spreaders where the inner forestay attaches, will be pretty tight to prevent the mast pumping, keep the inner forestry tight, and prevent the inner forestay from pulling the mast forward. My experience doesn't extend to the Tartan built C but the others should be just fine sailing without the main in any conditions you're likely to encounter. Andy Andrew Burton 139 Tuckerman Ave Middletown, RI USA02842 www.burtonsailing.com http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Mar 18, 2019, at 16:18, Morgan Ellis via CnC-List > wrote: > > I would love to hear Mr. Ball chime in on this thread, if possible, from a > mast design point of view. I have been told by a very experienced offshore > sailor and the instructor of Offshore Sea Survival courses, that the masts > are designed to have a mainsail hoisted and are not stable or properly > supported without it. The instructor stated that if you were to drop the main > because of high winds that you should be hoisting a storm sail in its place, > if for no other reason than to support the mast. Since then the only time I > will run on jib alone is in light air drifting around the harbour for an > evening pleasure cruise. > > Regards, > > Morgan Ellis > s/v Meandher > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern
Morgan, I have heard this also, but I believe it depends on the unique characteristics of the boat/mast. Fireball a C 35 Mk 2 has taken some pretty powerful unintentional jibes and spinnaker unloading and loading while racing. The 35 Mk2 really has a telephone pole for a mast and in these cases do not think the mainsail helps but also adds to the problem. In a jibe it is also unloading as it passes centerline, then loads with all the pressure being offset to a side but fwd on the mast. A very jarring/shuddering experience. Never have I turned around to see what the psi on the backstay reads, too concerned to steering the boat under the sails. For newer boats with fractional, lightweight/bendable mast this axiom may very well could be true. My $0.02. Don Kern Fireball C Mk2 Bristol, RI On 3/18/2019 4:18 PM, Morgan Ellis via CnC-List wrote: I would love to hear Mr. Ball chime in on this thread, if possible, from a mast design point of view. I have been told by a very experienced offshore sailor and the instructor of Offshore Sea Survival courses, that the masts are designed to have a mainsail hoisted and are not stable or properly supported without it. The instructor stated that if you were to drop the main because of high winds that you should be hoisting a storm sail in its place, if for no other reason than to support the mast. Since then the only time I will run on jib alone is in light air drifting around the harbour for an evening pleasure cruise. Regards, Morgan Ellis s/v Meandher ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern
I would love to hear Mr. Ball chime in on this thread, if possible, from a mast design point of view. I have been told by a very experienced offshore sailor and the instructor of Offshore Sea Survival courses, that the masts are designed to have a mainsail hoisted and are not stable or properly supported without it. The instructor stated that if you were to drop the main because of high winds that you should be hoisting a storm sail in its place, if for no other reason than to support the mast. Since then the only time I will run on jib alone is in light air drifting around the harbour for an evening pleasure cruise. Regards, Morgan Ellis s/v Meandher ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern
Sounds fun. The spinnaker is easier. I fly it asym and my sheet are long enough to let fly ahead of the boat and pull it in on the other side. The genoa usually takes some course adjusting to pop it loose on the new side. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 2:10 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern I just sailed Masquerade around from Peter Island to the Bight on Norman, downwind for a good part of it and gybing a few times to stay near the shore, sightseeing. I was lazing along with just the jib. The trick to gybing the jib is to let the old sheet out so the clew just clears the babystay (not very much). At this point I have a sheet in each hand (via the winch of course) and steer with a knee. Pull on the new sheet to get the clew on centerline against the babystay with tension on both sheets. Then alter course as little as possible to fill the sail on the new gybe. Let the old sheet go and pull in on the new. With a 135 or 150 genoa you may find it helps to furl it up most of the way before you gybe. It doesn't have to be a neat furl because as soon as the sail fills on the new gybe you're going to unfurl it again. Andy Andrew Burton 139 Tuckerman Ave Middletown, RI USA02842 www.burtonsailing.com<http://www.burtonsailing.com> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Mar 18, 2019, at 13:16, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: The furling idea is not a bad one. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 1:03 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern Interesting comments about sailing with jib (genoa) alone. I tend to avoid DDW courses, if I could help it. Personally, I find it easier, especially, when shorthanded, to gybe with both sails up (the jib is shadowed by the main and I claim that I have the manoeuvre of gybing the main reasonably well rehearsed). I freely admit that I have problems gybing singlehanded with the jib alone when it is windy (25+). With two people (one at the helm, one at the sheet) it is not a problem, but single handed, I always have problems with the jib either trying to wrap around the forestay or flapping in the wind incessantly. I don’t have the autohelm to help. Do you have some ideas how to do it correctly (or well)? On a couple of occasions I simply furled it in and unfurled on the other tack. But this is almost like a chicken gybe. Any ideas? Marek 1994 C270 Legato Ottawa, ON From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 12:26 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: cenel...@aol.com<mailto:cenel...@aol.com> Subject: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern Agree with philosophy of not using main in heavy winds astern. OTOH, I wonder about the unbalanced forces on the stays/boat when a stern wind is 30+ knots even with some of the 'telephone pole' masts on some C when only a head sail is flown. Mine mast is rather bendy with check stays and in high winds downwind, in addition to keeping her under control, I admit to some fear of a gravity storm if I only used the head sail (or with both sails for that matter!). Charlie Nelson Water Phantom C 36 XL/kcb -Original Message- From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> Sent: Mon, Mar 18, 2019 12:09 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Gybe preventer, now Boom Brake That too. We had an awesome run down the Severn with the wind blowing 55+ and ripping foam off the wavetops and throwing it up in the trees ashore. We didn’t even think about the main, the working jib alone gave us a steady 10-11 knots boatspeed. Everything was going great until we had to turn around and then discovered our speed under motor was about 0.5 knots! Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 9:53 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: David mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer, now Boom Brake Or leave the main down downwind. Anytime it blowing hard enough to worry about jibing, main is probably not going to add alot of speed, but will cause more helm and worry. Jib alone is so s
Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern
I just sailed Masquerade around from Peter Island to the Bight on Norman, downwind for a good part of it and gybing a few times to stay near the shore, sightseeing. I was lazing along with just the jib. The trick to gybing the jib is to let the old sheet out so the clew just clears the babystay (not very much). At this point I have a sheet in each hand (via the winch of course) and steer with a knee. Pull on the new sheet to get the clew on centerline against the babystay with tension on both sheets. Then alter course as little as possible to fill the sail on the new gybe. Let the old sheet go and pull in on the new. With a 135 or 150 genoa you may find it helps to furl it up most of the way before you gybe. It doesn't have to be a neat furl because as soon as the sail fills on the new gybe you're going to unfurl it again. Andy Andrew Burton 139 Tuckerman Ave Middletown, RI USA02842 www.burtonsailing.com http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Mar 18, 2019, at 13:16, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > wrote: > > The furling idea is not a bad one. > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina > C 35 MK I > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek > Dziedzic via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 1:03 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Marek Dziedzic > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern > > Interesting comments about sailing with jib (genoa) alone. > > I tend to avoid DDW courses, if I could help it. > > Personally, I find it easier, especially, when shorthanded, to gybe with both > sails up (the jib is shadowed by the main and I claim that I have the > manoeuvre of gybing the main reasonably well rehearsed). > > I freely admit that I have problems gybing singlehanded with the jib alone > when it is windy (25+). With two people (one at the helm, one at the sheet) > it is not a problem, but single handed, I always have problems with the jib > either trying to wrap around the forestay or flapping in the wind > incessantly. I don’t have the autohelm to help. > > Do you have some ideas how to do it correctly (or well)? On a couple of > occasions I simply furled it in and unfurled on the other tack. But this is > almost like a chicken gybe. Any ideas? > > Marek > 1994 C270 Legato > Ottawa, ON > > From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 12:26 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: cenel...@aol.com > Subject: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern > > Agree with philosophy of not using main in heavy winds astern. > > OTOH, I wonder about the unbalanced forces on the stays/boat when a stern > wind is 30+ knots even with some of > the 'telephone pole' masts on some C when only a head sail is flown. > > Mine mast is rather bendy with check stays and in high winds downwind, in > addition to keeping her under control, I admit to some fear of a gravity > storm if I only used the head sail (or with both sails for that matter!). > > Charlie Nelson > Water Phantom > C 36 XL/kcb > > > -Original Message- > From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Della Barba, Joe > Sent: Mon, Mar 18, 2019 12:09 pm > Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Gybe preventer, now Boom Brake > > That too. We had an awesome run down the Severn with the wind blowing 55+ and > ripping foam off the wavetops and throwing it up in the trees ashore. We > didn’t even think about the main, the working jib alone gave us a steady > 10-11 knots boatspeed. Everything was going great until we had to turn around > and then discovered our speed under motor was about 0.5 knots! > > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina > C 35 MK I > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via > CnC-List > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 9:53 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: David > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer, now Boom Brake > > Or leave the main down downwind. Anytime it blowing hard enough to worry > about jibing, main is probably not going to add alot of speed, but will > cause more helm and worry. > > Jib alone is so simple. > > David F. Risch, J. D. > Gulf Stream Associates, LLC > (401) 419-4650 > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this
Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern
The furling idea is not a bad one. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 1:03 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern Interesting comments about sailing with jib (genoa) alone. I tend to avoid DDW courses, if I could help it. Personally, I find it easier, especially, when shorthanded, to gybe with both sails up (the jib is shadowed by the main and I claim that I have the manoeuvre of gybing the main reasonably well rehearsed). I freely admit that I have problems gybing singlehanded with the jib alone when it is windy (25+). With two people (one at the helm, one at the sheet) it is not a problem, but single handed, I always have problems with the jib either trying to wrap around the forestay or flapping in the wind incessantly. I don’t have the autohelm to help. Do you have some ideas how to do it correctly (or well)? On a couple of occasions I simply furled it in and unfurled on the other tack. But this is almost like a chicken gybe. Any ideas? Marek 1994 C270 Legato Ottawa, ON From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 12:26 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: cenel...@aol.com<mailto:cenel...@aol.com> Subject: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern Agree with philosophy of not using main in heavy winds astern. OTOH, I wonder about the unbalanced forces on the stays/boat when a stern wind is 30+ knots even with some of the 'telephone pole' masts on some C when only a head sail is flown. Mine mast is rather bendy with check stays and in high winds downwind, in addition to keeping her under control, I admit to some fear of a gravity storm if I only used the head sail (or with both sails for that matter!). Charlie Nelson Water Phantom C 36 XL/kcb -Original Message- From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> Sent: Mon, Mar 18, 2019 12:09 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Gybe preventer, now Boom Brake That too. We had an awesome run down the Severn with the wind blowing 55+ and ripping foam off the wavetops and throwing it up in the trees ashore. We didn’t even think about the main, the working jib alone gave us a steady 10-11 knots boatspeed. Everything was going great until we had to turn around and then discovered our speed under motor was about 0.5 knots! Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 9:53 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: David mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer, now Boom Brake Or leave the main down downwind. Anytime it blowing hard enough to worry about jibing, main is probably not going to add alot of speed, but will cause more helm and worry. Jib alone is so simple. David F. Risch, J. D. Gulf Stream Associates, LLC (401) 419-4650 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray=02%7C01%7C%7Ceea1fcd926a04ebb5d8808d6abbe6a0d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636885231638340912=YtlQ3vERegYFe5eqRJjYoQnw3aHOAEOxJjFfaYI8%2Fxg%3D=0> ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
