Re: Stus-List 12 volt desktop compter
One other thing to consider if using an older machine that will never be connected to the internet, is that the earlier versions of older than the most recent Microsoft operating system will boot much quicker than an older version loaded down with the most recent updates available. If an original operating system distribution disk is available, then try doing a complete re-install. It may be necessary to go on the internet to re-register the software, but you can set so that it will not update before doing that. Steve Thomas Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote: Josh, The one problem I ran into was getting power to it. The ThinkPad Stick 300 is cheaper (Atom processor) and is USB powered. My current leading candidate. Joel On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I looked at the CS-325. Seems like a lot of horse power for such small > tasks. Then again I'm cheap. I've never bought a new car, and my current > one is a 1998. My boat is a 1989. I'm running $100 ebay laptops that are > probably at least 10 years old throughout the house and boat. I'm using a > 15 year old chartplotter attached to 20 year old sailing instruments. My > phone is a Galaxy S4 and I only upgraded because my Galaxy S1 got wet. My > directv tivo box is original to the 12 year old plan and my TV doesn't have > HDMI. But you know what? They all work quite satisfactorily. > > So, yes the CS-325 looks like a nice piece of hardware. I would > investigate the USB bandwidth since i appears to only have one port. > Forcing wifi and hd could be a bottleneck. Other than that I can't see any > reason why you won't be satisfied... It's just more than I would spend on > something that depreciates so fast. > > What other questions or considerations? > > Josh > > On Nov 2, 2016 7:55 PM, "Josh Muckley" wrote: > > If you haven't played with a Raspberry Pi they are pretty incredible. > Cheap and powerful. Multi boot but native linux. $35 and the run > OpenCPN. You can find all manner of 12v HDMI screens that it will drive. > > Or just go get a laptop with 12v charger. > > I still need to look at the compustick. > > Josh > > On Nov 2, 2016 3:38 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" > wrote: > >> I'd like to have a windows machine on board to run OpenCPN, surf the web >> etc. >> >> I'm thinking of using a 12 volt TV that I can mount and an Intel >> ComputeStick CS-325. Add a 12 volt to USB converter, BT keyboard/mouse and >> external hard drive. >> >> Thoughts/recommendations? >> >> -- >> Joel >> 301 541 8551 >> >> ___ >> ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List 12 volt desktop compter
I would not worry about the monthly updates. Some are important, others not so much. If you don’t do work on that computer and you use it mainly to run a single application (and you don’t access Internet!), update Windows to whatever you like and freeze it like that. If this is a stick PC, you can always take it home and update it, when needed. You would be doing it, anyway, to update your OpenCPN . Before you buy any TV to be used as a monitor, check how you like the picture. Many TVs don’t work so well as monitors. It might be better to buy a 22” monitor and use it as a TV. Marek In Ottawa, ON From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of phorvati . via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:58 To: CNC boat owners cnc-list Cc: phorvati . Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt desktop compter It's usable but with headaches of having to update windows. Windows has a weekly update. And so does the browsing stuff like Mozilla and adobe products etc etc. If you don't keep up with it, it becomes a nuissance. If you just keep open cpn that's doable. I ended up rewiring the internals of 22" HP lcd monitor to use 12v. You can purchase a 12v monitor as well. In fact dell had a 14v led back lit version. All ccfl back lit TVs and monitors use 19v DC as input to high voltage transformer for cclf(florescent light that lights the tv picture) The IC driver on this particular HP model is rated to take down to 8 or 10v DC input. So I put a laptop type 12vDC recepticle on the monitor and I bypassed the ac side of the power supply. So 12 v goes directly to what used to be the 19v node. This might be more for the geeks, but it saves quite a bit of money. I got my monitor for 50$ few years ago. Same goes with USB hubs. You can lookup the IC in the hub and wire it directly to 12v with a fuse. Provided that it's rated for 10-15v DC range. The one I use is rated to 15 or 16v at the input. On Nov 2, 2016 3:38 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I'd like to have a windows machine on board to run OpenCPN, surf the web etc. I'm thinking of using a 12 volt TV that I can mount and an Intel ComputeStick CS-325. Add a 12 volt to USB converter, BT keyboard/mouse and external hard drive. Thoughts/recommendations? -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List 12 volt desktop compter
You mentioned USB powered, so is the Raspberry PI. In fact that was one of my biggest concerns. The stability of a usb connector from a 12v boat supply just started feeling really unreliable. I overcame it with a UPS addon "HAT" for the PI. That is one nice thing about a laptop or even a tablet device. They don't shutdown just because of a sketchy power connection and they will auto shutdown if the battery gets too low. They're portable and have a considerable screen built right in. They are also natively designed for 12v power supplies. I guess that's why Rasberry PI fits my needs so well. It is a cheap device that I can afford to ADD permanently to the boat and sustain depreciation and obsolescence without flinching. The user interface can be ANY of my other personal devices and doesn't have to be permanently tied to the boat or regulatory transported to and from. Just my 2 cents, Josh On Nov 20, 2016 10:27 AM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" wrote: > Josh, > > The one problem I ran into was getting power to it. The ThinkPad Stick > 300 is cheaper (Atom processor) and is USB powered. My current leading > candidate. > > Joel > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I looked at the CS-325. Seems like a lot of horse power for such small >> tasks. Then again I'm cheap. I've never bought a new car, and my current >> one is a 1998. My boat is a 1989. I'm running $100 ebay laptops that are >> probably at least 10 years old throughout the house and boat. I'm using a >> 15 year old chartplotter attached to 20 year old sailing instruments. My >> phone is a Galaxy S4 and I only upgraded because my Galaxy S1 got wet. My >> directv tivo box is original to the 12 year old plan and my TV doesn't have >> HDMI. But you know what? They all work quite satisfactorily. >> >> So, yes the CS-325 looks like a nice piece of hardware. I would >> investigate the USB bandwidth since i appears to only have one port. >> Forcing wifi and hd could be a bottleneck. Other than that I can't see any >> reason why you won't be satisfied... It's just more than I would spend on >> something that depreciates so fast. >> >> What other questions or considerations? >> >> Josh >> >> On Nov 2, 2016 7:55 PM, "Josh Muckley" wrote: >> >> If you haven't played with a Raspberry Pi they are pretty incredible. >> Cheap and powerful. Multi boot but native linux. $35 and the run >> OpenCPN. You can find all manner of 12v HDMI screens that it will drive. >> >> Or just go get a laptop with 12v charger. >> >> I still need to look at the compustick. >> >> Josh >> >> On Nov 2, 2016 3:38 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> I'd like to have a windows machine on board to run OpenCPN, surf the web >>> etc. >>> >>> I'm thinking of using a 12 volt TV that I can mount and an Intel >>> ComputeStick CS-325. Add a 12 volt to USB converter, BT keyboard/mouse and >>> external hard drive. >>> >>> Thoughts/recommendations? >>> >>> -- >>> Joel >>> 301 541 8551 >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> >> > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List 12 volt desktop compter
It's usable but with headaches of having to update windows. Windows has a weekly update. And so does the browsing stuff like Mozilla and adobe products etc etc. If you don't keep up with it, it becomes a nuissance. If you just keep open cpn that's doable. I ended up rewiring the internals of 22" HP lcd monitor to use 12v. You can purchase a 12v monitor as well. In fact dell had a 14v led back lit version. All ccfl back lit TVs and monitors use 19v DC as input to high voltage transformer for cclf(florescent light that lights the tv picture) The IC driver on this particular HP model is rated to take down to 8 or 10v DC input. So I put a laptop type 12vDC recepticle on the monitor and I bypassed the ac side of the power supply. So 12 v goes directly to what used to be the 19v node. This might be more for the geeks, but it saves quite a bit of money. I got my monitor for 50$ few years ago. Same goes with USB hubs. You can lookup the IC in the hub and wire it directly to 12v with a fuse. Provided that it's rated for 10-15v DC range. The one I use is rated to 15 or 16v at the input. On Nov 2, 2016 3:38 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" wrote: > I'd like to have a windows machine on board to run OpenCPN, surf the web > etc. > > I'm thinking of using a 12 volt TV that I can mount and an Intel > ComputeStick CS-325. Add a 12 volt to USB converter, BT keyboard/mouse and > external hard drive. > > Thoughts/recommendations? > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List 12 volt desktop compter
Power to which? Laptop or compustick or thinkpad stick? For my laptop I just searched cigarette lighter adapters. The one I found uses buck/boost circuitry to create 19v@5amps out of 12v. I dissected the cigarette plug and hardwired 16 gauge marine wire to the circuit board. I terminated the wires with ring terminals and attached them to my terminal board. Josh On Nov 20, 2016 10:27 AM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" wrote: > Josh, > > The one problem I ran into was getting power to it. The ThinkPad Stick > 300 is cheaper (Atom processor) and is USB powered. My current leading > candidate. > > Joel > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I looked at the CS-325. Seems like a lot of horse power for such small >> tasks. Then again I'm cheap. I've never bought a new car, and my current >> one is a 1998. My boat is a 1989. I'm running $100 ebay laptops that are >> probably at least 10 years old throughout the house and boat. I'm using a >> 15 year old chartplotter attached to 20 year old sailing instruments. My >> phone is a Galaxy S4 and I only upgraded because my Galaxy S1 got wet. My >> directv tivo box is original to the 12 year old plan and my TV doesn't have >> HDMI. But you know what? They all work quite satisfactorily. >> >> So, yes the CS-325 looks like a nice piece of hardware. I would >> investigate the USB bandwidth since i appears to only have one port. >> Forcing wifi and hd could be a bottleneck. Other than that I can't see any >> reason why you won't be satisfied... It's just more than I would spend on >> something that depreciates so fast. >> >> What other questions or considerations? >> >> Josh >> >> On Nov 2, 2016 7:55 PM, "Josh Muckley" wrote: >> >> If you haven't played with a Raspberry Pi they are pretty incredible. >> Cheap and powerful. Multi boot but native linux. $35 and the run >> OpenCPN. You can find all manner of 12v HDMI screens that it will drive. >> >> Or just go get a laptop with 12v charger. >> >> I still need to look at the compustick. >> >> Josh >> >> On Nov 2, 2016 3:38 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> I'd like to have a windows machine on board to run OpenCPN, surf the web >>> etc. >>> >>> I'm thinking of using a 12 volt TV that I can mount and an Intel >>> ComputeStick CS-325. Add a 12 volt to USB converter, BT keyboard/mouse and >>> external hard drive. >>> >>> Thoughts/recommendations? >>> >>> -- >>> Joel >>> 301 541 8551 >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> >> > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List 12 volt desktop compter
Josh, The one problem I ran into was getting power to it. The ThinkPad Stick 300 is cheaper (Atom processor) and is USB powered. My current leading candidate. Joel On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I looked at the CS-325. Seems like a lot of horse power for such small > tasks. Then again I'm cheap. I've never bought a new car, and my current > one is a 1998. My boat is a 1989. I'm running $100 ebay laptops that are > probably at least 10 years old throughout the house and boat. I'm using a > 15 year old chartplotter attached to 20 year old sailing instruments. My > phone is a Galaxy S4 and I only upgraded because my Galaxy S1 got wet. My > directv tivo box is original to the 12 year old plan and my TV doesn't have > HDMI. But you know what? They all work quite satisfactorily. > > So, yes the CS-325 looks like a nice piece of hardware. I would > investigate the USB bandwidth since i appears to only have one port. > Forcing wifi and hd could be a bottleneck. Other than that I can't see any > reason why you won't be satisfied... It's just more than I would spend on > something that depreciates so fast. > > What other questions or considerations? > > Josh > > On Nov 2, 2016 7:55 PM, "Josh Muckley" wrote: > > If you haven't played with a Raspberry Pi they are pretty incredible. > Cheap and powerful. Multi boot but native linux. $35 and the run > OpenCPN. You can find all manner of 12v HDMI screens that it will drive. > > Or just go get a laptop with 12v charger. > > I still need to look at the compustick. > > Josh > > On Nov 2, 2016 3:38 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" > wrote: > >> I'd like to have a windows machine on board to run OpenCPN, surf the web >> etc. >> >> I'm thinking of using a 12 volt TV that I can mount and an Intel >> ComputeStick CS-325. Add a 12 volt to USB converter, BT keyboard/mouse and >> external hard drive. >> >> Thoughts/recommendations? >> >> -- >> Joel >> 301 541 8551 >> >> ___ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> >> > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List 12 volt desktop compter
I looked at the CS-325. Seems like a lot of horse power for such small tasks. Then again I'm cheap. I've never bought a new car, and my current one is a 1998. My boat is a 1989. I'm running $100 ebay laptops that are probably at least 10 years old throughout the house and boat. I'm using a 15 year old chartplotter attached to 20 year old sailing instruments. My phone is a Galaxy S4 and I only upgraded because my Galaxy S1 got wet. My directv tivo box is original to the 12 year old plan and my TV doesn't have HDMI. But you know what? They all work quite satisfactorily. So, yes the CS-325 looks like a nice piece of hardware. I would investigate the USB bandwidth since i appears to only have one port. Forcing wifi and hd could be a bottleneck. Other than that I can't see any reason why you won't be satisfied... It's just more than I would spend on something that depreciates so fast. What other questions or considerations? Josh On Nov 2, 2016 7:55 PM, "Josh Muckley" wrote: If you haven't played with a Raspberry Pi they are pretty incredible. Cheap and powerful. Multi boot but native linux. $35 and the run OpenCPN. You can find all manner of 12v HDMI screens that it will drive. Or just go get a laptop with 12v charger. I still need to look at the compustick. Josh On Nov 2, 2016 3:38 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" wrote: > I'd like to have a windows machine on board to run OpenCPN, surf the web > etc. > > I'm thinking of using a 12 volt TV that I can mount and an Intel > ComputeStick CS-325. Add a 12 volt to USB converter, BT keyboard/mouse and > external hard drive. > > Thoughts/recommendations? > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List 12 volt desktop compter
Why complicate things? Get a nice laptop and find a 12V cigarette lighter style adapter for it. A TV will offer poor resolution and image quality in general. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 7:55 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > If you haven't played with a Raspberry Pi they are pretty incredible. > Cheap and powerful. Multi boot but native linux. $35 and the run > OpenCPN. You can find all manner of 12v HDMI screens that it will drive. > > Or just go get a laptop with 12v charger. > > I still need to look at the compustick. > > Josh > > On Nov 2, 2016 3:38 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" > wrote: > >> I'd like to have a windows machine on board to run OpenCPN, surf the web >> etc. >> >> I'm thinking of using a 12 volt TV that I can mount and an Intel >> ComputeStick CS-325. Add a 12 volt to USB converter, BT keyboard/mouse and >> external hard drive. >> >> Thoughts/recommendations? >> >> -- >> Joel >> 301 541 8551 >> >> ___ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> >> > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List 12 volt desktop compter
If you haven't played with a Raspberry Pi they are pretty incredible. Cheap and powerful. Multi boot but native linux. $35 and the run OpenCPN. You can find all manner of 12v HDMI screens that it will drive. Or just go get a laptop with 12v charger. I still need to look at the compustick. Josh On Nov 2, 2016 3:38 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" wrote: > I'd like to have a windows machine on board to run OpenCPN, surf the web > etc. > > I'm thinking of using a 12 volt TV that I can mount and an Intel > ComputeStick CS-325. Add a 12 volt to USB converter, BT keyboard/mouse and > external hard drive. > > Thoughts/recommendations? > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List 12 volt desktop compter
I'd like to have a windows machine on board to run OpenCPN, surf the web etc. I'm thinking of using a 12 volt TV that I can mount and an Intel ComputeStick CS-325. Add a 12 volt to USB converter, BT keyboard/mouse and external hard drive. Thoughts/recommendations? -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
