Re: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries
I have had a 1980 version #593 for 24 years and I have had some of the issues you mentioned. Some deck crazing near stanchions where I believe previous owners (and maybe my boat partner and maybe myself) have put too much stress on the stanchion (docking by feel). A small chainplate leak, fixed by making up a new cover (no damage internal). No deck problems near the dorade boxes. A few blisters about 20 years ago, took the bottom paint off (the hard way) and have only had a few on the rudder since. Check the engine mounts (they are, if original like mine) 37 years old! I have replaced mine. And some of the other issues listed in some of the blogs, like the mast step (if the oak block under the mast is not a quarter inch above the floorboards, you may have a problem) and the 'C Smile'). There are good repair blogs for most of these issues, and if you are handy, they are addressable by an owner. If not, buy a new boat. We are still happy, the boat is stout, sails to its rating in decent wind (not a light wind wonder). Gary Nylander From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of T power via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 5:58 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: T power <sv_invic...@outlook.com>; Chris Hobson <ch...@hobsonbuildsco.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries I have a 1973 MKI . great boat. Solid hull. Last year when i bought it. I sanded adout 4 layers of old bottom paint, found about 4 pin sized blisters, had the rest of the paint removed by soda blasting. That reveled a few thousand pin sized blisters. Some epoxy, lots of sanding. Followed by barrier and bottom paint and it is good to go. I also have some softened deck next to the mast, stanchon spider cracks and a port chainplate that is leaking, which will need addressing. They are a great boat, very fun. Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36> _ From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> > on behalf of Chris Hobson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 4:08:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Chris Hobson Subject: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries Hey all, I'm about to go through with a survey on a 1980 C 30, noted a few things on my own initial inspection, curious if other 30 owners of this vintage have had similar repairs and how much of a concern the repairs were. Here's what I found: - Moisture along the top of the raised dorade boxes - heard something about this area being a high stress area next to the mast - Stanchion flex on one port-side spider cracking at the deck - Owner states "one dime-size blister" is this a red herring? Thinking where there's one blister there's more. One of the subjects were: any more than 6 blisters and the owner pays for the haul out. Have had two bad experiences before on previous boats I surveyed wanted to be covered. - Any idea what the consistency of the hull is on this vintage? I.E. balsa cored at the waterline Appreciate any thoughts or insights. ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries
Actually, the "pin size blisters" may be more what some of us call gelcoat pox. Older C's were prone to gelcoat pox near the boot stripe/waterline area. The pox is pretty much limited to the gelcoat. I think C applied the gelcoat a bit too thick in this area. I fixed Touche's pox and applied barrier coat in 2007. Despite the seemingly hundreds of pox spot, there were no blisters, none. No recurrence to date. They are primarily cosmetic and are fairly easily fixed. Here's a couple pics: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsdlFYdGp0bnpjcTQ https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsU0IzdG5LQjUwczQ A couple hours with a right angle die grinder with cone shaped grinding stone followed by a few swipes of AwlFair or 3M Premium Putty and some time with a sander and they're fixed. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Chris Hobson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Clearly the blisters didn’t slow your ambition to fix her up and sail, I > appreciate your ambition. And that blisters were hiding so far under the > surface tells me that its something of a hidden problem. > > Thanks, > Chris > > > > On Jul 9, 2017, at 2:58 AM, T powerwrote: > > I have a 1973 MKI . great boat. Solid hull. Last year when i bought it. I > sanded adout 4 layers of old bottom paint, found about 4 pin sized > blisters, had the rest of the paint removed by soda blasting. That reveled > a few thousand pin sized blisters. Some epoxy, lots of sanding. Followed by > barrier and bottom paint and it is good to go. > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries
Clearly the blisters didn’t slow your ambition to fix her up and sail, I appreciate your ambition. And that blisters were hiding so far under the surface tells me that its something of a hidden problem. Thanks, Chris > On Jul 9, 2017, at 2:58 AM, T power <sv_invic...@outlook.com> wrote: > > I have a 1973 MKI . great boat. Solid hull. Last year when i bought it. I > sanded adout 4 layers of old bottom paint, found about 4 pin sized blisters, > had the rest of the paint removed by soda blasting. That reveled a few > thousand pin sized blisters. Some epoxy, lots of sanding. Followed by barrier > and bottom paint and it is good to go. > I also have some softened deck next to the mast, stanchon spider cracks and a > port chainplate that is leaking, which will need addressing. > They are a great boat, very fun. > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36> > From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Chris Hobson via > CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 4:08:00 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Chris Hobson > Subject: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries > > Hey all, I'm about to go through with a survey on a 1980 C 30, noted a few > things on my own initial inspection, curious if other 30 owners of this > vintage have had similar repairs and how much of a concern the repairs were. > > Here’s what I found: > - Moisture along the top of the raised dorade boxes - heard something about > this area being a high stress area next to the mast > - Stanchion flex on one port-side spider cracking at the deck > - Owner states “one dime-size blister” is this a red herring? Thinking where > there’s one blister there’s more. One of the subjects were: any more than 6 > blisters and the owner pays for the haul out. Have had two bad experiences > before on previous boats I surveyed wanted to be covered. > - Any idea what the consistency of the hull is on this vintage? I.E. balsa > cored at the waterline > > Appreciate any thoughts or insights. ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries
Mast step supports often softening. Balsa in deck only, check deck fastening areas for softness. Helluva good boat. Had mine 12 yrs so far, freshwater, winter hauled, zero blisters Nate 1980 30-1 Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2017, at 14:08, Chris Hobson via CnC-List> wrote: > > Hey all, I'm about to go through with a survey on a 1980 C 30, noted a few > things on my own initial inspection, curious if other 30 owners of this > vintage have had similar repairs and how much of a concern the repairs were. > > Here’s what I found: > - Moisture along the top of the raised dorade boxes - heard something about > this area being a high stress area next to the mast > - Stanchion flex on one port-side spider cracking at the deck > - Owner states “one dime-size blister” is this a red herring? Thinking where > there’s one blister there’s more. One of the subjects were: any more than 6 > blisters and the owner pays for the haul out. Have had two bad experiences > before on previous boats I surveyed wanted to be covered. > - Any idea what the consistency of the hull is on this vintage? I.E. balsa > cored at the waterline > > Appreciate any thoughts or insights. > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish > to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries
Hey all, I'm about to go through with a survey on a 1980 C 30, noted a few things on my own initial inspection, curious if other 30 owners of this vintage have had similar repairs and how much of a concern the repairs were. Here’s what I found: - Moisture along the top of the raised dorade boxes - heard something about this area being a high stress area next to the mast - Stanchion flex on one port-side spider cracking at the deck - Owner states “one dime-size blister” is this a red herring? Thinking where there’s one blister there’s more. One of the subjects were: any more than 6 blisters and the owner pays for the haul out. Have had two bad experiences before on previous boats I surveyed wanted to be covered. - Any idea what the consistency of the hull is on this vintage? I.E. balsa cored at the waterline Appreciate any thoughts or insights. ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!