Re: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries

2017-07-09 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
I have had a 1980 version #593 for 24 years and I have had some of the
issues you mentioned. Some deck crazing near stanchions where I believe
previous owners (and maybe my boat partner and maybe myself) have put too
much stress on the stanchion (docking by feel). A small chainplate leak,
fixed by making up a new cover (no damage internal). No deck problems near
the dorade boxes. A few blisters about 20 years ago, took the bottom paint
off (the hard way) and have only had a few on the rudder since. 

 

Check the engine mounts (they are, if original like mine) 37 years old! I
have replaced mine.

 

And some of the other issues listed in some of the blogs, like the mast step
(if the oak block under the mast is not a quarter inch above the
floorboards, you may have a problem) and the 'C Smile').

 

There are good repair blogs for most of these issues, and if you are handy,
they are addressable by an owner. If not, buy a new boat.

 

We are still happy, the boat is stout, sails to its rating in decent wind
(not a light wind wonder).

 

Gary Nylander

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries

 

I have a 1973 MKI . great boat. Solid hull. Last year when i bought it. I
sanded adout 4 layers of old bottom paint, found about 4 pin sized blisters,
had the rest of the paint removed by soda blasting. That reveled a few
thousand pin sized blisters. Some epoxy, lots of sanding. Followed by
barrier and bottom paint and it is good to go. 

I also have some softened deck next to the mast, stanchon spider cracks and
a port chainplate that is leaking, which will need addressing.

They are a great boat, very fun.

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Subject: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries 

 

Hey all, I'm about to go through with a survey on a 1980 C 30, noted a few
things on my own initial inspection, curious if other 30 owners of this
vintage have had similar repairs and how much of a concern the repairs were.


 

Here's what I found: 

- Moisture along the top of the raised dorade boxes - heard something about
this area being a high stress area next to the mast

- Stanchion flex on one port-side spider cracking at the deck

- Owner states "one dime-size blister" is this a red herring? Thinking where
there's one blister there's more. One of the subjects were: any more than 6
blisters and the owner pays for the haul out. Have had two bad experiences
before on previous boats I surveyed wanted to be covered.

- Any idea what the consistency of the hull is on this vintage? I.E. balsa
cored at the waterline

 

Appreciate any thoughts or insights. 

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Re: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries

2017-07-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Actually, the "pin size blisters" may be more what some of us call gelcoat
pox.  Older C's were prone to gelcoat pox near the boot stripe/waterline
area.  The pox is pretty much limited to the gelcoat.  I think C applied
the gelcoat a bit too thick in this area.

I fixed Touche's pox and applied barrier coat in 2007.  Despite the
seemingly hundreds of pox spot, there were no blisters, none.  No
recurrence to date.

They are primarily cosmetic and are fairly easily fixed.  Here's a couple
pics:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsdlFYdGp0bnpjcTQ
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsU0IzdG5LQjUwczQ

A couple hours with a right angle die grinder with cone shaped grinding
stone followed by a few swipes of AwlFair or 3M Premium Putty and some time
with a sander and they're fixed.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Chris Hobson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Clearly the blisters didn’t slow your ambition to fix her up and sail, I
> appreciate your ambition. And that blisters were hiding so far under the
> surface tells me that its something of a hidden problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2017, at 2:58 AM, T power  wrote:
>
> I have a 1973 MKI . great boat. Solid hull. Last year when i bought it. I
> sanded adout 4 layers of old bottom paint, found about 4 pin sized
> blisters, had the rest of the paint removed by soda blasting. That reveled
> a few thousand pin sized blisters. Some epoxy, lots of sanding. Followed by
> barrier and bottom paint and it is good to go.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries

2017-07-09 Thread Chris Hobson via CnC-List
Clearly the blisters didn’t slow your ambition to fix her up and sail, I 
appreciate your ambition. And that blisters were hiding so far under the 
surface tells me that its something of a hidden problem.

Thanks,
Chris



> On Jul 9, 2017, at 2:58 AM, T power <sv_invic...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> I have a 1973 MKI . great boat. Solid hull. Last year when i bought it. I 
> sanded adout 4 layers of old bottom paint, found about 4 pin sized blisters, 
> had the rest of the paint removed by soda blasting. That reveled a few 
> thousand pin sized blisters. Some epoxy, lots of sanding. Followed by barrier 
> and bottom paint and it is good to go. 
> I also have some softened deck next to the mast, stanchon spider cracks and a 
> port chainplate that is leaking, which will need addressing.
> They are a great boat, very fun.
> 
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
> From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Chris Hobson via 
> CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 4:08:00 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Chris Hobson
> Subject: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries
>  
> Hey all, I'm about to go through with a survey on a 1980 C 30, noted a few 
> things on my own initial inspection, curious if other 30 owners of this 
> vintage have had similar repairs and how much of a concern the repairs were. 
> 
> Here’s what I found:
> - Moisture along the top of the raised dorade boxes - heard something about 
> this area being a high stress area next to the mast
> - Stanchion flex on one port-side spider cracking at the deck
> - Owner states “one dime-size blister” is this a red herring? Thinking where 
> there’s one blister there’s more. One of the subjects were: any more than 6 
> blisters and the owner pays for the haul out. Have had two bad experiences 
> before on previous boats I surveyed wanted to be covered.
> - Any idea what the consistency of the hull is on this vintage? I.E. balsa 
> cored at the waterline
> 
> Appreciate any thoughts or insights. 

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Re: Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries

2017-07-08 Thread Nate Personal via CnC-List
Mast step supports often softening. Balsa in deck only, check deck fastening 
areas for softness. Helluva good boat. Had mine 12 yrs so far, freshwater, 
winter hauled, zero blisters

Nate
1980 30-1


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> On Jul 8, 2017, at 14:08, Chris Hobson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey all, I'm about to go through with a survey on a 1980 C 30, noted a few 
> things on my own initial inspection, curious if other 30 owners of this 
> vintage have had similar repairs and how much of a concern the repairs were. 
> 
> Here’s what I found:
> - Moisture along the top of the raised dorade boxes - heard something about 
> this area being a high stress area next to the mast
> - Stanchion flex on one port-side spider cracking at the deck
> - Owner states “one dime-size blister” is this a red herring? Thinking where 
> there’s one blister there’s more. One of the subjects were: any more than 6 
> blisters and the owner pays for the haul out. Have had two bad experiences 
> before on previous boats I surveyed wanted to be covered.
> - Any idea what the consistency of the hull is on this vintage? I.E. balsa 
> cored at the waterline
> 
> Appreciate any thoughts or insights. 
> ___
> 
> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish 
> to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 
> All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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Stus-List 1980 C 30 purchase queries

2017-07-08 Thread Chris Hobson via CnC-List
Hey all, I'm about to go through with a survey on a 1980 C 30, noted a few 
things on my own initial inspection, curious if other 30 owners of this vintage 
have had similar repairs and how much of a concern the repairs were. 

Here’s what I found:
- Moisture along the top of the raised dorade boxes - heard something about 
this area being a high stress area next to the mast
- Stanchion flex on one port-side spider cracking at the deck
- Owner states “one dime-size blister” is this a red herring? Thinking where 
there’s one blister there’s more. One of the subjects were: any more than 6 
blisters and the owner pays for the haul out. Have had two bad experiences 
before on previous boats I surveyed wanted to be covered.
- Any idea what the consistency of the hull is on this vintage? I.E. balsa 
cored at the waterline

Appreciate any thoughts or insights. ___

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