Re: Stus-List 25 mk II Not level in the water
The 25 mkII does have a swept back keel. I also have water pool in the same places, but some old rope looped though the toe rail has been working well. The lines of the mkII are very nice, and it is a beautiful 25'. Mine is on a dock with a number of Catalinas and the like. I'm always very pleased with the looks of the C&C in comparison. I just need to get the topsides painted (probably DIY, I can't find a boat yard that seems interested in providing a quote for a small boat, which I expect would be pretty high anyway). Of course, by then we'll probably want one of her bigger sisters :-). Stephen That makes me curious as to why my 25 mk1 sits with the cockpit sole level when she sits on her lines (so any water disappears into the scuppers), while the water that collects on the deck because of the rocker of the sheer lines seems to be centered about 3 feet forward of the transom. Anyone have thoughts on an explanation? Does the Mk2 have a swept back keel like the mk1? ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List 25 mk II Not level in the water
Hull differences between 25-1 and 25-2 mirror the changes between 27-2 and 27-3. Sharper lines, more modern keel and rudder shape. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2020, at 10:34 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote: Five or six years ago the USCG increased the figure used for the weight of the average passenger when doing stability calculations for commercial vessels. Both the boats I captained had a reduction in the allowed number of passengers on the renewed Certificate of Inspection … the 83,000 pound schooner not so much but the aluminum dinner boat went from 69 to 62. I think the current weight figure is 165 pounds. Three crew at 165 pounds is 12.4% of the displacement of my 25 mk1, so I think you may have identified why your 25 mk2 is slightly bow down when empty. But that makes me curious as to why my 25 mk1 sits with the cockpit sole level when she sits on her lines (so any water disappears into the scuppers), while the water that collects on the deck because of the rocker of the sheer lines seems to be centered about 3 feet forward of the transom. Anyone have thoughts on an explanation? Does the Mk2 have a swept back keel like the mk1? And could that explain it? Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Kidd via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 7:44 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stephen Kidd Subject: Re: Stus-List 25 mk II Not level in the water Thank you, Richard and Bill! It's good to know it isn't anomalous. Probably because my attentions are elsewhere, I hadn't thought to check if things level out when I have three others in the cockpit. Three or four people would be over 10% of empty displacement. I'm wondering if this is the sort of thing that would be considered in the design. Again, I greatly appreciate the input! I'm glad I asked before attempting any interventions. I'll try the wick idea for the companionway puddle. Regards, Stephen 25 mkII, 566 Washington DC On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 11:20 PM Richard Bush mailto:bushma...@aol.com>> wrote: Stephen, I had a 25 II which sat low in the bow also; like you I had no gear or other weight forward, so I assumed it to be designed that way...perhaps, Rob Ball can shed some light on this? Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1095 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River Mile 584.4; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Stephen Kidd via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Stephen Kidd mailto:stephenk...@gmail.com>> Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2020 7:31 pm Subject: Stus-List Not level in the water I've noticed that my little boat, a 25 mkII, is uneven in the water. The bow is probably 1-2" lower in the water than the stern when at the dock. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List 25 mk II Not level in the water
Five or six years ago the USCG increased the figure used for the weight of the average passenger when doing stability calculations for commercial vessels. Both the boats I captained had a reduction in the allowed number of passengers on the renewed Certificate of Inspection … the 83,000 pound schooner not so much but the aluminum dinner boat went from 69 to 62. I think the current weight figure is 165 pounds. Three crew at 165 pounds is 12.4% of the displacement of my 25 mk1, so I think you may have identified why your 25 mk2 is slightly bow down when empty. But that makes me curious as to why my 25 mk1 sits with the cockpit sole level when she sits on her lines (so any water disappears into the scuppers), while the water that collects on the deck because of the rocker of the sheer lines seems to be centered about 3 feet forward of the transom. Anyone have thoughts on an explanation? Does the Mk2 have a swept back keel like the mk1? And could that explain it? Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Kidd via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 7:44 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stephen Kidd Subject: Re: Stus-List 25 mk II Not level in the water Thank you, Richard and Bill! It's good to know it isn't anomalous. Probably because my attentions are elsewhere, I hadn't thought to check if things level out when I have three others in the cockpit. Three or four people would be over 10% of empty displacement. I'm wondering if this is the sort of thing that would be considered in the design. Again, I greatly appreciate the input! I'm glad I asked before attempting any interventions. I'll try the wick idea for the companionway puddle. Regards, Stephen 25 mkII, 566 Washington DC On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 11:20 PM Richard Bush mailto:bushma...@aol.com> > wrote: Stephen, I had a 25 II which sat low in the bow also; like you I had no gear or other weight forward, so I assumed it to be designed that way...perhaps, Rob Ball can shed some light on this? Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1095 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River Mile 584.4; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Stephen Kidd via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Stephen Kidd mailto:stephenk...@gmail.com> > Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2020 7:31 pm Subject: Stus-List Not level in the water I've noticed that my little boat, a 25 mkII, is uneven in the water. The bow is probably 1-2" lower in the water than the stern when at the dock. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List 25 mk II Not level in the water
Thank you, Richard and Bill! It's good to know it isn't anomalous. Probably because my attentions are elsewhere, I hadn't thought to check if things level out when I have three others in the cockpit. Three or four people would be over 10% of empty displacement. I'm wondering if this is the sort of thing that would be considered in the design. Again, I greatly appreciate the input! I'm glad I asked before attempting any interventions. I'll try the wick idea for the companionway puddle. Regards, Stephen 25 mkII, 566 Washington DC On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 11:20 PM Richard Bush wrote: > Stephen, I had a 25 II which sat low in the bow also; like you I had no > gear or other weight forward, so I assumed it to be designed that > way...perhaps, Rob Ball can shed some light on this? > > Richard > s/v Bushmark4; 1095 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River Mile 584.4; > > > Richard N. Bush Law Offices > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > > > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Kidd via CnC-List > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Stephen Kidd > Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2020 7:31 pm > Subject: Stus-List Not level in the water > > I've noticed that my little boat, a 25 mkII, is uneven in the water. The > bow is probably 1-2" lower in the water than the stern when at the dock. > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
