Re: Stus-List 35-2 headliner treatment; chainplate inspection

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

" I don’t know if the chain plate bulkheads are cored or solid fiberglass  "

On the 35 Mk.1 they are plywood with fiberglass on one side.

Ken H.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 18:38, Kurt Heckert via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The Chainplates on the 35-2 are easily accessible behind the sliding
> doors, I would look for signs of water coming in from the cover plates,
> also look for any thing oozing from around the bolts. Also tap on them with
> a screw driver handle and listen for echos. I don’t know if the chain plate
> bulkheads are cored or solid fiberglass.
>
> Kurt & Connie Heckert
>
> 
> On Wed, 4/10/19, james via CnC-List  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-2 headliner treatment; chainplate inspection
>  To: "Shawn Wright via CnC-List" 
>  Cc: "james" 
>  Date: Wednesday, April 10, 2019, 5:22 PM
>
>
>  Shawn,
>
>
>  My boat came with vinyl covered plywood panels that
>  are held in
>place by velcro. They had become pretty ragged and
>  warped so I
>replaced them with "foamed PVC" sheet. They
>  look very nice. I
>can't find any pics of them but I'll email you
>  a before pic. I'm
>not sure that would work on your boat, but it's an
>  idea
>  James Taylor
>  Delaney, 1976 C 38
>  Oriental, NC
>
>
>  On 4/10/2019 11:36 AM,
>  Shawn Wright via
>CnC-List wrote:
>
>
>
>We are
>  considering a '74 35-2 which has had quite a
>  number of holes drilled through the interior
>  headliner, for the
>  purpose of through-bolting (and apparently epoxy
>  filling/drilling, but not confirmed by me) various
>  hardware,
>  including replacement stainless grab rails. In some
>  areas, 4-8"
>  circular holes were cut, and white acrylic panels
>  similar to the
>  factory panels were added, which look ok. For the
>  grab rails,
>  there is just a series of 1" holes. There are
>  also a few places
>  where access was cut for wiring. As a result, the
>  headliner is
>  not too tidy, with a bit of a swiss cheese look.
>
>
>
>  What I am wondering is whether anyone has
>  successfully made
>a headliner cover from vinyl, fabric or semi rigid
>  material
>like I've seen done on other boats. My first
>  thought is that
>the complex curves in the cabin top would make
>  this very
>difficult to do well. I have seen one example
>  where the white
>covers were in teak veneer (maybe this was an
>  option?) but I
>think that might just make them stand out
>  more.
>
>
>
>  Also, something more critical than headliners -
>  what do I
>look for when inspecting the chainplates on the
>  35-2? If I get
>a chance on this boat, I will need to look closely
>  at them.
>Are they visible behind the sliding storage doors,
>  or do I
>need to take things apart to fully inspect?
>
>
>
>
>--
>
>
>  Shawn Wright
>  shawngwri...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List 35-2 headliner treatment; chainplate inspection

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

My boat has inspection panels, about 6" square that gives me access to the
through bolt chain plate nuts. Not sure if you could do something similar
with your boat.

Regarding the headliner, I replaced the thin plywood panels, that got
weathered by leaks, with FRP (fiberglass reinforced plastic), held in place
with Velcro. FRP is available at Home Depot. Another solution is using
cloth material. Sailrite has a "How To" video about using carpet style
material for a headliner.

https://www.sailrite.com/How-to-Install-Carpet-Style-Headliner-Video

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 2:23 PM james via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Shawn,
>
> My boat came with vinyl covered plywood panels that are held in place by
> velcro. They had become pretty ragged and warped so I replaced them with
> "foamed PVC" sheet. They look very nice. I can't find any pics of them but
> I'll email you a before pic. I'm not sure that would work on your boat, but
> it's an idea
>
> James Taylor
>
> Delaney, 1976 C 38
>
> Oriental, NC
> On 4/10/2019 11:36 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
>
> We are considering a '74 35-2 which has had quite a number of holes
> drilled through the interior headliner, for the purpose of through-bolting
> (and apparently epoxy filling/drilling, but not confirmed by me) various
> hardware, including replacement stainless grab rails. In some areas, 4-8"
> circular holes were cut, and white acrylic panels similar to the factory
> panels were added, which look ok. For the grab rails, there is just a
> series of 1" holes. There are also a few places where access was cut for
> wiring. As a result, the headliner is not too tidy, with a bit of a swiss
> cheese look.
>
> What I am wondering is whether anyone has successfully made a headliner
> cover from vinyl, fabric or semi rigid material like I've seen done on
> other boats. My first thought is that the complex curves in the cabin top
> would make this very difficult to do well. I have seen one example where
> the white covers were in teak veneer (maybe this was an option?) but I
> think that might just make them stand out more.
>
> Also, something more critical than headliners - what do I look for when
> inspecting the chainplates on the 35-2? If I get a chance on this boat, I
> will need to look closely at them. Are they visible behind the sliding
> storage doors, or do I need to take things apart to fully inspect?
>
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>
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Re: Stus-List 35-2 headliner treatment; chainplate inspection

[Kurt Heckert via CnC-List]

The Chainplates on the 35-2 are easily accessible behind the sliding doors, I 
would look for signs of water coming in from the cover plates, also look for 
any thing oozing from around the bolts. Also tap on them with a screw driver 
handle and listen for echos. I don’t know if the chain plate bulkheads are 
cored or solid fiberglass.

Kurt & Connie Heckert


On Wed, 4/10/19, james via CnC-List  wrote:

 Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-2 headliner treatment; chainplate inspection
 To: "Shawn Wright via CnC-List" 
 Cc: "james" 
 Date: Wednesday, April 10, 2019, 5:22 PM
 
 
 Shawn, 
 
 
 My boat came with vinyl covered plywood panels that
 are held in
   place by velcro. They had become pretty ragged and
 warped so I
   replaced them with "foamed PVC" sheet. They
 look very nice. I
   can't find any pics of them but I'll email you
 a before pic. I'm
   not sure that would work on your boat, but it's an
 idea
 James Taylor
 Delaney, 1976 C 38
 Oriental, NC
 
 
 On 4/10/2019 11:36 AM,
 Shawn Wright via
   CnC-List wrote:
 
 
 
   We are
 considering a '74 35-2 which has had quite a
 number of holes drilled through the interior
 headliner, for the
 purpose of through-bolting (and apparently epoxy
 filling/drilling, but not confirmed by me) various
 hardware,
 including replacement stainless grab rails. In some
 areas, 4-8"
 circular holes were cut, and white acrylic panels
 similar to the
 factory panels were added, which look ok. For the
 grab rails,
 there is just a series of 1" holes. There are
 also a few places
 where access was cut for wiring. As a result, the
 headliner is
 not too tidy, with a bit of a swiss cheese look. 
 
 
 
 What I am wondering is whether anyone has
 successfully made
   a headliner cover from vinyl, fabric or semi rigid
 material
   like I've seen done on other boats. My first
 thought is that
   the complex curves in the cabin top would make
 this very
   difficult to do well. I have seen one example
 where the white
   covers were in teak veneer (maybe this was an
 option?) but I
   think that might just make them stand out
 more.
 
 
 
 Also, something more critical than headliners -
 what do I
   look for when inspecting the chainplates on the
 35-2? If I get
   a chance on this boat, I will need to look closely
 at them.
   Are they visible behind the sliding storage doors,
 or do I
   need to take things apart to fully inspect?
 
   
 
   
   -- 
 
   
 Shawn Wright
 shawngwri...@gmail.com
   
 
   
   
 
   
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Re: Stus-List 35-2 headliner treatment; chainplate inspection

[james via CnC-List]

Shawn,

My boat came with vinyl covered plywood panels that are held in place by 
velcro. They had become pretty ragged and warped so I replaced them with 
"foamed PVC" sheet. They look very nice. I can't find any pics of them 
but I'll email you a before pic. I'm not sure that would work on your 
boat, but it's an idea


James Taylor

Delaney, 1976 C 38

Oriental, NC

On 4/10/2019 11:36 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
We are considering a '74 35-2 which has had quite a number of holes 
drilled through the interior headliner, for the purpose of 
through-bolting (and apparently epoxy filling/drilling, but not 
confirmed by me) various hardware, including replacement stainless 
grab rails. In some areas, 4-8" circular holes were cut, and white 
acrylic panels similar to the factory panels were added, which look 
ok. For the grab rails, there is just a series of 1" holes. There are 
also a few places where access was cut for wiring. As a result, the 
headliner is not too tidy, with a bit of a swiss cheese look.


What I am wondering is whether anyone has successfully made a 
headliner cover from vinyl, fabric or semi rigid material like I've 
seen done on other boats. My first thought is that the complex curves 
in the cabin top would make this very difficult to do well. I have 
seen one example where the white covers were in teak veneer (maybe 
this was an option?) but I think that might just make them stand out more.


Also, something more critical than headliners - what do I look for 
when inspecting the chainplates on the 35-2? If I get a chance on this 
boat, I will need to look closely at them. Are they visible behind the 
sliding storage doors, or do I need to take things apart to fully inspect?


--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com 

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Re: Stus-List 35-2 headliner treatment; chainplate inspection

[Don Kern via CnC-List]

Shawn,

Also have a C 35 Mk2 with not quite the number of holes in the 
overhead.   Last year I tidied up the the cabin by painting all the 
larger 4 - 8" covers white, since they had yellowed with age. Also 
bought a bag of 50 plastic hole plugs, 3/4" opening from dangoodbuy on 
ebay, which were translucent white nylon that I painted the same white.


https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=nylon+hole+plugs&_ssn=dangoodbuy&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=hole+plugs+white+nylon++3%2F4%22&_sacat=0

Don Kern
Fireball C Mk-2
Bristol, RI




On 4/10/2019 11:36 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
We are considering a '74 35-2 which has had quite a number of holes 
drilled through the interior headliner, for the purpose of 
through-bolting (and apparently epoxy filling/drilling, but not 
confirmed by me) various hardware, including replacement stainless 
grab rails. In some areas, 4-8" circular holes were cut, and white 
acrylic panels similar to the factory panels were added, which look 
ok. For the grab rails, there is just a series of 1" holes. There are 
also a few places where access was cut for wiring. As a result, the 
headliner is not too tidy, with a bit of a swiss cheese look.


What I am wondering is whether anyone has successfully made a 
headliner cover from vinyl, fabric or semi rigid material like I've 
seen done on other boats. My first thought is that the complex curves 
in the cabin top would make this very difficult to do well. I have 
seen one example where the white covers were in teak veneer (maybe 
this was an option?) but I think that might just make them stand out more.


Also, something more critical than headliners - what do I look for 
when inspecting the chainplates on the 35-2? If I get a chance on this 
boat, I will need to look closely at them. Are they visible behind the 
sliding storage doors, or do I need to take things apart to fully inspect?


--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com 

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Re: Stus-List 35-2 headliner treatment; chainplate inspection

[Jeff Helsdingen via CnC-List]

Bulkheads and chainplates are visible behind the sliders.

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 11:37 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We are considering a '74 35-2 which has had quite a number of holes
> drilled through the interior headliner, for the purpose of through-bolting
> (and apparently epoxy filling/drilling, but not confirmed by me) various
> hardware, including replacement stainless grab rails. In some areas, 4-8"
> circular holes were cut, and white acrylic panels similar to the factory
> panels were added, which look ok. For the grab rails, there is just a
> series of 1" holes. There are also a few places where access was cut for
> wiring. As a result, the headliner is not too tidy, with a bit of a swiss
> cheese look.
>
> What I am wondering is whether anyone has successfully made a headliner
> cover from vinyl, fabric or semi rigid material like I've seen done on
> other boats. My first thought is that the complex curves in the cabin top
> would make this very difficult to do well. I have seen one example where
> the white covers were in teak veneer (maybe this was an option?) but I
> think that might just make them stand out more.
>
> Also, something more critical than headliners - what do I look for when
> inspecting the chainplates on the 35-2? If I get a chance on this boat, I
> will need to look closely at them. Are they visible behind the sliding
> storage doors, or do I need to take things apart to fully inspect?
>
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
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Stus-List 35-2 headliner treatment; chainplate inspection

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

We are considering a '74 35-2 which has had quite a number of holes drilled
through the interior headliner, for the purpose of through-bolting (and
apparently epoxy filling/drilling, but not confirmed by me) various
hardware, including replacement stainless grab rails. In some areas, 4-8"
circular holes were cut, and white acrylic panels similar to the factory
panels were added, which look ok. For the grab rails, there is just a
series of 1" holes. There are also a few places where access was cut for
wiring. As a result, the headliner is not too tidy, with a bit of a swiss
cheese look.

What I am wondering is whether anyone has successfully made a headliner
cover from vinyl, fabric or semi rigid material like I've seen done on
other boats. My first thought is that the complex curves in the cabin top
would make this very difficult to do well. I have seen one example where
the white covers were in teak veneer (maybe this was an option?) but I
think that might just make them stand out more.

Also, something more critical than headliners - what do I look for when
inspecting the chainplates on the 35-2? If I get a chance on this boat, I
will need to look closely at them. Are they visible behind the sliding
storage doors, or do I need to take things apart to fully inspect?

-- 
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
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