Re: Stus-List Fw: Strut

2016-11-22 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
a few years ago the yard hauled my Viking 33 and had the strap on the 
prop shaft.  They broke the strut and bent the brand new shaft.


we had to pin the strut back together and have a new one molded at a 
local foundry.  that was $550.  the yard took care of all the repairs 
due to the haul out accident.


the shaft I had bought and replaced the year prior was about $500.  I 
rebuilt the stuffing box, new hose, high end clamps, packing, and 
replaced the cutlass bearing at the same time as the shaft replacement.  
I did all the work myself and probably spent around $750ish which 
included the machine shop truing the prop on the shaft.


It's a bear of a job but really only because the access was really tight 
and some of the wrenching can be very hard.  Nothing really all that 
complex.  Mostly just parts replacing, providing that tube is fine.  
Given the fact that you will be removing the strut, removing the cutlass 
should be simple bench work (hopefully that isn't bent).  Aligning 
everything back up again is where you need to be careful.


Danny


On 11/22/2016 8:24 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:


We did this on Persistence.  Other end of line was attached to a 
stanchion.  Strut was bent and minor damage to stern tube.


Suggest you remove fuel tank as suggested earlier and inspect stern 
tube carefully as well as shaft for any bends.  Have some one check 
the alignment of the shaft with the engine as well once the strut is 
rebidded.  Might also be a good time to change out cutlass bearing if 
it has any wear


This was a $6000 job for us.  We had a worn cutlass bearing which had 
a wear spot on shaft so those were both replaced (only due to the 
wear) and accounted for $2000 of this repair


Mike

Persistence

Halifax, NS

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*Subject:* Stus-List Fw: Strut

Hey,

Recently wrapped a line around my prop/shaft and found some damage and 
a loose prop strut when the boat was hauled.


Has anyone done this repair and have any advice.

Thx

Tom Alessi
C 36

Rockaway Beach, NY



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Re: Stus-List Fw: Strut

2016-11-22 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I hit something that bent the prop and the shaft. My insurance covered what was 
about a $2,000 job. The yard checked the strut and as far as I know it was OK. 
I don't know if you have insurance or want to claim this, but it can add up in 
a hurry if the yard is doing it.
The PSS carbon shaft seal and cutless bearing were replaced while all this was 
apart.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Strut

We did this on Persistence.  Other end of line was attached to a stanchion.  
Strut was bent and minor damage to stern tube.

Suggest you remove fuel tank as suggested earlier and inspect stern tube 
carefully as well as shaft for any bends.  Have some one check the alignment of 
the shaft with the engine as well once the strut is rebidded.  Might also be a 
good time to change out cutlass bearing if it has any wear

This was a $6000 job for us.  We had a worn cutlass bearing which had a wear 
spot on shaft so those were both replaced (only due to the wear) and accounted 
for $2000 of this repair

Mike
Persistence
Halifax, NS

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Subject: Stus-List Fw: Strut


Hey,
Recently wrapped a line around my prop/shaft and found some damage and a loose 
prop strut when the boat was hauled.
Has anyone done this repair and have any advice.
Thx

Tom Alessi
C 36
Rockaway Beach, NY
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Re: Stus-List Fw: Strut

2016-11-22 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
We did this on Persistence.  Other end of line was attached to a stanchion.  
Strut was bent and minor damage to stern tube.

Suggest you remove fuel tank as suggested earlier and inspect stern tube 
carefully as well as shaft for any bends.  Have some one check the alignment of 
the shaft with the engine as well once the strut is rebidded.  Might also be a 
good time to change out cutlass bearing if it has any wear

This was a $6000 job for us.  We had a worn cutlass bearing which had a wear 
spot on shaft so those were both replaced (only due to the wear) and accounted 
for $2000 of this repair

Mike
Persistence
Halifax, NS

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Subject: Stus-List Fw: Strut


Hey,
Recently wrapped a line around my prop/shaft and found some damage and a loose 
prop strut when the boat was hauled.
Has anyone done this repair and have any advice.
Thx

Tom Alessi
C 36
Rockaway Beach, NY
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Re: Stus-List Fw: Strut

2016-11-22 Thread Frank via CnC-List
Tom,

About 5 years ago I had to reposition my strut because the engine and prop 
shaft were not aligned.
Turns out that they were never in alignment.  I had to reposition the engine by 
making new engine mount brackets.  But that is another story.
I removed the strut and did all of the prep work.  The yard positioned and 
installed the strut.  I bedded it in the hull and finished the job.
It took about 4 days from start to finish.
The job is not difficult and I wish that I would have done the work I paid the 
yard to do.  I found all four bolts that hold the strut to the hull leaking 
water four years later.

Good luck,

Frank
C 38LF, S/N: 001
Rose City YC
Portland, Oregon



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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:57 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Tom Alessi 
Subject: Stus-List Fw: Strut


Hey,
Recently wrapped a line around my prop/shaft and found some damage and a loose 
prop strut when the boat was hauled.
Has anyone done this repair and have any advice.
Thx

Tom Alessi
C 36
Rockaway Beach, NY




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Re: Stus-List Fw: Strut

2016-11-21 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
My strut was not in line with the shaft tube, and the shaft was radially
warped, so I had to drop it and realign it with a new shaft. I have photos.
Basically chipped the old bodge away with wood chisels. The strut was never
bedded in compound, it was clean gelcoat under the strut. We buttered the
mounting surface of the strut with thickened epoxy and hung it on the
mounting bolts in the right alignment with the shaft in place. Next day we
tightened the bolts and I faired in the strut.
It sounds so simple and easy now, but it took two weeks, getting the rudder
off and making new parts...argh.

http://members.shaw.ca/parmesanshift/images/newshaft2.jpg

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 21 November 2016 at 14:43, Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I did the samething to Pegasus. Pulled the strut, cleaned the hull,
> rebedded using 5200 I think, reinstalled using new hardware, doubled up
> fender washers and double nutted the bolts. No leaks or loose bolts 4 years
> later.
> Doug Mountjoy
> Pegasus
> LF38 #4
>
>
> On Monday, November 21, 2016, Tom Alessi via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey,
>> Recently wrapped a line around my prop/shaft and found some damage and a
>> loose prop strut when the boat was hauled.
>> Has anyone done this repair and have any advice.
>> Thx
>>
>> Tom Alessi
>> C 36
>> Rockaway Beach, NY
>>
>
>
> --
> Doug Mountjoy
> sv Pegasus
> LF38
> just west of Ballard, WA
>
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Re: Stus-List Fw: Strut

2016-11-21 Thread Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List
I did the samething to Pegasus. Pulled the strut, cleaned the hull,
rebedded using 5200 I think, reinstalled using new hardware, doubled up
fender washers and double nutted the bolts. No leaks or loose bolts 4 years
later.
Doug Mountjoy
Pegasus
LF38 #4

On Monday, November 21, 2016, Tom Alessi via CnC-List 
wrote:

>
> Hey,
> Recently wrapped a line around my prop/shaft and found some damage and a
> loose prop strut when the boat was hauled.
> Has anyone done this repair and have any advice.
> Thx
>
> Tom Alessi
> C 36
> Rockaway Beach, NY
>


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sv Pegasus
LF38
just west of Ballard, WA
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Re: Stus-List Fw: Strut

2016-11-21 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I had a bent strut a few years ago.  Removed it, had machine shop
straighten it and re-installed it.  straightforward job on my 35-1.  Did
require removing the fuel tank for access to the fastener nuts.  Helps to
have a buddy but if it is similar to mine, I just clamped Vise-Grips on the
nuts and works from underneath.

Re-bedded it with 4M 4200 and faired the gap with AwlFair.

Dennis C.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Tom Alessi via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> Hey,
> Recently wrapped a line around my prop/shaft and found some damage and a
> loose prop strut when the boat was hauled.
> Has anyone done this repair and have any advice.
> Thx
>
> Tom Alessi
> C 36
> Rockaway Beach, NY
>
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Stus-List Fw: Strut

2016-11-21 Thread Tom Alessi via CnC-List

Hey,
Recently wrapped a line around my prop/shaft and found some damage and a loose 
prop strut when the boat was hauled.
Has anyone done this repair and have any advice.
Thx

Tom Alessi
C 36
Rockaway Beach, NY
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