Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Chris Riedinger via CnC-List]

A proper outside/yard machinist should have the facilities in ready to
quickly and with relative ease do this type of work for you.

I know this might sound like a great project, but even with my experience
in manufacturing and fixturing and machining, I would probably still call
someone with a proper portable drill press to do this work.  I know of one
shop local to me who has such facilities, let me know if you want their
contact info- owner is a liveaboard even!




On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 1:27 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks Chuck.  I had measured using a old style caliper and then reading
> it on the scale on my digital caliper which came out as 75mm.  But after
> your caution I decided to waits for a real micrometer to get the true(r)
> measurement.
>
> I think that drilling the hole for the through bold will be a huge PITA as
> the short end of the arm is facing the transom and the vertical support we
> put in to reenforce the deck.  Also, there's not much room there.  Should
> be fun...
>
> Tom B
>
> At 06:46 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote:
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 08:11:17 -0400
> From: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40
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> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8"
>
> Tom,
> Thought I'd weigh in as a former Edsonite..  The most important thing to
> realize when installing the autopilot is that the clamping action of the
> arm and cap for the tiller arm is the primary form of attachment to the
> rudder post.  Edson makes the arm with a .002" clamping tolerance to the
> diameter of the rudder post.  The secondary or "failsafe" attachment is a
> key, through bolt, or set screws.  When you order your tiller arm, don't
> assume that C always used the same diameter stainless post for every boat
> and model.  It's important to get precise measurement of the post where you
> wish to attach the arm, preferably using a digital caliper to achieve the
> proper tolerance.  Measure the exact diameter of the post, and take several
> measurements as you rotate the caliper around the post at a variety of
> positions where the tiller arm will attach.  When Edson bores the arm to
> your specification, they'll insert a small piece of paper between the arm
> and cap.  Removing it will give the arm the proper undersized clamping
> tolerance needed for the arm to grab the post without slippage.  Again, the
> keyway or through bolt should prevent the arm from rotating ONLY if the
> clamping tolerance is compromised, as in a hard grounding, rudder stop
> failure, or other drastic event.
>
> As you've found, if there's no accessible keyway cut in the post, the
> through bolt method is preferred if the post is hollow (typical with  SS
> posts) or set screws if the post is solid (usually with a bronze rudder
> post).  Getting the arm positioned to drill the post and tiller arm can be
> problematic, finding a drill bit long enough to get it in place and then
> drilling through the hard steel (thus the need for a carbide bit and some
> lubricating oil to prevent work hardening the bit) but avoid the temptation
> to "pre drill" the arm before installing on the post.  This is because the
> likelihood of you being able to match up the holes on the post with the
> holes on the arm are not great given the confined space you'll have to work
> with and the difficulty of keeping the drill level while you work.
> The tiller arm has a very important plus side as it enables your autopilot
> to serve as an emergency tiller in the event of a steering system failure
> such as a fractured radial drive, cable breakage or idler failure.
> Finally, make sure that the autopilot isn't set up as the rudder stop as
> damage to the autopilot can occur.
> Good luck with the install and Edson is a good source for advice..
> Chuck Gilchrest
> S/V Half Magic
> 1983 35 Landfall
> Padanaram, MA
>
> >From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Tom
> Buscaglia via CnC-List
> >Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 6:19 PM
>  ...snip...
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> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
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Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Thanks Chuck.  I had measured using a old style 
caliper and then reading it on the scale on my 
digital caliper which came out as 75mm.  But 
after your caution I decided to waits for a real 
micrometer to get the true(r) measurement.


I think that drilling the hole for the through 
bold will be a huge PITA as the short end of the 
arm is facing the transom and the vertical 
support we put in to reenforce the deck.  Also, 
there's not much room there.  Should be fun...


Tom B

At 06:46 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote:

Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 08:11:17 -0400
From: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40
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Tom,
Thought I'd weigh in as a former Edsonite..  The 
most important thing to realize when installing 
the autopilot is that the clamping action of the 
arm and cap for the tiller arm is the primary 
form of attachment to the rudder post.  Edson 
makes the arm with a .002" clamping tolerance to 
the diameter of the rudder post.  The secondary 
or "failsafe" attachment is a key, through bolt, 
or set screws.  When you order your tiller arm, 
don't assume that C always used the same 
diameter stainless post for every boat and 
model.  It's important to get precise 
measurement of the post where you wish to attach 
the arm, preferably using a digital caliper to 
achieve the proper tolerance.  Measure the exact 
diameter of the post, and take several 
measurements as you rotate the caliper around 
the post at a variety of positions where the 
tiller arm will attach.  When Edson bores the 
arm to your specification, they'll insert a 
small piece of paper between the arm and 
cap.  Removing it will give the arm the proper 
undersized clamping tolerance needed for the arm 
to grab the post without slippage.  Again, the 
keyway or through bolt should prevent the arm 
from rotating ONLY if the clamping tolerance is 
compromised, as in a hard grounding, rudder stop 
failure, or other drastic event.


As you've found, if there's no accessible keyway 
cut in the post, the through bolt method is 
preferred if the post is hollow (typical 
with  SS posts) or set screws if the post is 
solid (usually with a bronze rudder 
post).  Getting the arm positioned to drill the 
post and tiller arm can be problematic, finding 
a drill bit long enough to get it in place and 
then drilling through the hard steel (thus the 
need for a carbide bit and some lubricating oil 
to prevent work hardening the bit) but avoid the 
temptation to "pre drill" the arm before 
installing on the post.  This is because the 
likelihood of you being able to match up the 
holes on the post with the holes on the arm are 
not great given the confined space you'll have 
to work with and the difficulty of keeping the drill level while you work.
The tiller arm has a very important plus side as 
it enables your autopilot to serve as an 
emergency tiller in the event of a steering 
system failure such as a fractured radial drive, 
cable breakage or idler failure.  Finally, make 
sure that the autopilot isn't set up as the 
rudder stop as damage to the autopilot can occur.

Good luck with the install and Edson is a good source for advice..
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA

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On Behalf Of Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List

>Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 6:19 PM
 ...snip...
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.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Tom,
Thought I'd weigh in as a former Edsonite..  The most important thing to 
realize when installing the autopilot is that the clamping action of the arm 
and cap for the tiller arm is the primary form of attachment to the rudder 
post.  Edson makes the arm with a .002" clamping tolerance to the diameter of 
the rudder post.  The secondary or "failsafe" attachment is a key, through 
bolt, or set screws.  When you order your tiller arm, don't assume that C 
always used the same diameter stainless post for every boat and model.  It's 
important to get precise measurement of the post where you wish to attach the 
arm, preferably using a digital caliper to achieve the proper tolerance.  
Measure the exact diameter of the post, and take several measurements as you 
rotate the caliper around the post at a variety of positions where the tiller 
arm will attach.  When Edson bores the arm to your specification, they'll 
insert a small piece of paper between the arm and cap.  Removing it will give 
the arm the proper undersized clamping tolerance needed for the arm to grab the 
post without slippage.  Again, the keyway or through bolt should prevent the 
arm from rotating ONLY if the clamping tolerance is compromised, as in a hard 
grounding, rudder stop failure, or other drastic event.

As you've found, if there's no accessible keyway cut in the post, the through 
bolt method is preferred if the post is hollow (typical with  SS posts) or set 
screws if the post is solid (usually with a bronze rudder post).  Getting the 
arm positioned to drill the post and tiller arm can be problematic, finding a 
drill bit long enough to get it in place and then drilling through the hard 
steel (thus the need for a carbide bit and some lubricating oil to prevent work 
hardening the bit) but avoid the temptation to "pre drill" the arm before 
installing on the post.  This is because the likelihood of you being able to 
match up the holes on the post with the holes on the arm are not great given 
the confined space you'll have to work with and the difficulty of keeping the 
drill level while you work.
The tiller arm has a very important plus side as it enables your autopilot to 
serve as an emergency tiller in the event of a steering system failure such as 
a fractured radial drive, cable breakage or idler failure.  Finally, make sure 
that the autopilot isn't set up as the rudder stop as damage to the autopilot 
can occur.
Good luck with the install and Edson is a good source for advice..
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA

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Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Hi Tom,
 I am told not all rudderposts have a keyway that reaches down the post
far enough.  I was lucky; mine did.  It may be that you exposed the shaft
further down than I did.  I've heard from others that they didn't have a
keyway and had to drill the post and install bolts.  Your other choice is
to remove the rudder and have a local machine shop to extend the keyway.  I
didn't take C's word for it concerning the diameter of the rudder post.
I carefully measured mine and Edson bored it to order.

Best of luck,
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA
~~~_/)~~



On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 6:19 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am moving forward with the below deck linear drive install. We put in
> the structural support and then exposed the rudder post.  However a few
> oddities.
>
> First, in spite of the build plans calling for an 80mm diameter rudder
> post it is, in fact, 75mm.   And, although the Images that Josh posted if
> his install show a keyway on his post, mine does not have one.
>
> I’ll check with Edson to see what they recommend for attaching the tiller
> arm.
>
> Sigh...
>
> Stay safe all.
>
> Tom B
>
> Typoed from my iPhone
>
> Tom Buscaglia
> Alera 1990 C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> O 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
> Skype - thombusc
>
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Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Very deceptive.  I would have never guessed.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 19:25 Bryan Colwell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> 1991 34+ post is hollow. Way too heavy if it was solid.
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 4:17 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Good lord!  Drill through 3 inches of stainless steel!  Nope!  That one
>> is going to the machine shop for me.  I don't care if it is a cobalt bit
>> and guided.  The machine shop could put in a keyway while you have it out
>> instead of a hole.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 19:04 Bryan Colwell via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> I had the same issue on my 34+, no keyway.  I called Edson and they said
>>> you must drill through the post.  The Edson arm has a hole on one end which
>>> guides the drill to the opposite side. Then you finish by drilling through
>>> the bronze arm for the bolt. Be sure and use a cobalt drill bit to get
>>> through the stainless rudder post.
>>>
>>> Bryan Colwell
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 3:19 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 I am moving forward with the below deck linear drive install. We put in
 the structural support and then exposed the rudder post.  However a few
 oddities.

 First, in spite of the build plans calling for an 80mm diameter rudder
 post it is, in fact, 75mm.   And, although the Images that Josh posted if
 his install show a keyway on his post, mine does not have one.

 I’ll check with Edson to see what they recommend for attaching the
 tiller arm.

 Sigh...

 Stay safe all.

 Tom B

 Typoed from my iPhone

 Tom Buscaglia
 Alera 1990 C 37+/40
 Vashon Island WA
 O 206.463.9200
 C 305.409.3660
 Skype - thombusc

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Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Bryan Colwell via CnC-List]

1991 34+ post is hollow. Way too heavy if it was solid.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 4:17 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Good lord!  Drill through 3 inches of stainless steel!  Nope!  That one is
> going to the machine shop for me.  I don't care if it is a cobalt bit and
> guided.  The machine shop could put in a keyway while you have it out
> instead of a hole.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 19:04 Bryan Colwell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Tom,
>>
>> I had the same issue on my 34+, no keyway.  I called Edson and they said
>> you must drill through the post.  The Edson arm has a hole on one end which
>> guides the drill to the opposite side. Then you finish by drilling through
>> the bronze arm for the bolt. Be sure and use a cobalt drill bit to get
>> through the stainless rudder post.
>>
>> Bryan Colwell
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 3:19 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am moving forward with the below deck linear drive install. We put in
>>> the structural support and then exposed the rudder post.  However a few
>>> oddities.
>>>
>>> First, in spite of the build plans calling for an 80mm diameter rudder
>>> post it is, in fact, 75mm.   And, although the Images that Josh posted if
>>> his install show a keyway on his post, mine does not have one.
>>>
>>> I’ll check with Edson to see what they recommend for attaching the
>>> tiller arm.
>>>
>>> Sigh...
>>>
>>> Stay safe all.
>>>
>>> Tom B
>>>
>>> Typoed from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Tom Buscaglia
>>> Alera 1990 C 37+/40
>>> Vashon Island WA
>>> O 206.463.9200
>>> C 305.409.3660
>>> Skype - thombusc
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Good lord!  Drill through 3 inches of stainless steel!  Nope!  That one is
going to the machine shop for me.  I don't care if it is a cobalt bit and
guided.  The machine shop could put in a keyway while you have it out
instead of a hole.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 19:04 Bryan Colwell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Tom,
>
> I had the same issue on my 34+, no keyway.  I called Edson and they said
> you must drill through the post.  The Edson arm has a hole on one end which
> guides the drill to the opposite side. Then you finish by drilling through
> the bronze arm for the bolt. Be sure and use a cobalt drill bit to get
> through the stainless rudder post.
>
> Bryan Colwell
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 3:19 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I am moving forward with the below deck linear drive install. We put in
>> the structural support and then exposed the rudder post.  However a few
>> oddities.
>>
>> First, in spite of the build plans calling for an 80mm diameter rudder
>> post it is, in fact, 75mm.   And, although the Images that Josh posted if
>> his install show a keyway on his post, mine does not have one.
>>
>> I’ll check with Edson to see what they recommend for attaching the tiller
>> arm.
>>
>> Sigh...
>>
>> Stay safe all.
>>
>> Tom B
>>
>> Typoed from my iPhone
>>
>> Tom Buscaglia
>> Alera 1990 C 37+/40
>> Vashon Island WA
>> O 206.463.9200
>> C 305.409.3660
>> Skype - thombusc
>>
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Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Bryan Colwell via CnC-List]

Tom,

I had the same issue on my 34+, no keyway.  I called Edson and they said
you must drill through the post.  The Edson arm has a hole on one end which
guides the drill to the opposite side. Then you finish by drilling through
the bronze arm for the bolt. Be sure and use a cobalt drill bit to get
through the stainless rudder post.

Bryan Colwell

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 3:19 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am moving forward with the below deck linear drive install. We put in
> the structural support and then exposed the rudder post.  However a few
> oddities.
>
> First, in spite of the build plans calling for an 80mm diameter rudder
> post it is, in fact, 75mm.   And, although the Images that Josh posted if
> his install show a keyway on his post, mine does not have one.
>
> I’ll check with Edson to see what they recommend for attaching the tiller
> arm.
>
> Sigh...
>
> Stay safe all.
>
> Tom B
>
> Typoed from my iPhone
>
> Tom Buscaglia
> Alera 1990 C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> O 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
> Skype - thombusc
>
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Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

I am moving forward with the below deck linear drive install. We put in the 
structural support and then exposed the rudder post.  However a few oddities.

First, in spite of the build plans calling for an 80mm diameter rudder post it 
is, in fact, 75mm.   And, although the Images that Josh posted if his install 
show a keyway on his post, mine does not have one.

I’ll check with Edson to see what they recommend for attaching the tiller arm.

Sigh...

Stay safe all.

Tom B

Typoed from my iPhone

Tom Buscaglia
Alera 1990 C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
O 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660
Skype - thombusc

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Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

>>
>>
>>
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ken
>> Heaton via CnC-List
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2020 1:27 PM
>> To: cnc-list
>> Cc: Ken Heaton
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] New thought re: anchor light?
>>
>>
>>
>> My white cove stripe tape (dark blue hull) needs to be renewed as it is
>> looking a bit ratty.  I think the idea of using white reflective tape to
>> replace it is brilliant!
>>
>>
>>
>> (pun intended)
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 10:18, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Another way around it is using 3M reflective tape ?
>>
>> I used a pretty blue for the cove stripe on my 39, and 1? Red for a boot
>> stripe, and they really jump out an night, but you wouldn?t know they were
>> reflective in the day.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Coleman
>>
>>
>>
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
>> bwhitmore via CnC-List
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2020 9:39 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: bwhitmore
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] New thought re: anchor light?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick, I love the idea of the SOLAS tape!
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks everyone for a lot of great insights and ideas.  I'm going to mull
>> it around for q bit before making a final decision.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] New thought re: anchor light?
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>> Great idea, and very attractive!The only question is, my cove stripe is
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>> :)Bruce?1994 C/40"Astralis"Sent from Samsung tablet.
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>> From: Tom Buscaglia 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40
>> Message-ID:
>><202002060027.0160rhtj008...@jax4mhob12.myregisteredsite.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>>
>> I got a set of installation photos from somone's
>> flickr or picasa web site.  I think it was an
>> install on a 37+/40 about 2-3 years ago.
>>
>> Will the guilty party please set forward!
>>
>> Tom B
>>
>> .???`???,??,???`??`???,??,???`???.
>> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
>> SV Alera
>> C 37+/40
>> Vashon Island WA
>> (206) 463-9200
>> www.sv-alera.com
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 19:51:21 -0500
>> From: Edd Schillay 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40
>> Message-ID: <64c43b84-88f9-4cbe-8c59-bd20c6256...@schillay.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> That depends on which install. One + owner had the hydraulic arm attached
>> to the rudder post.
>>
>> Another (me) has an arm attached to the quadrant.
>&g

Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

t; stripe, and they really jump out an night, but you wouldn?t know they were
> reflective in the day.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
>
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
> bwhitmore via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2020 9:39 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: bwhitmore
> Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] New thought re: anchor light?
>
>
>
> Rick, I love the idea of the SOLAS tape!
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone for a lot of great insights and ideas.  I'm going to mull
> it around for q bit before making a final decision.
>
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] New thought re: anchor light?
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Great idea, and very attractive!The only question is, my cove stripe is
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> :)Bruce?1994 C/40"Astralis"Sent from Samsung tablet.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2020 16:27:15 -0800
> From: Tom Buscaglia 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40
> Message-ID:
><202002060027.0160rhtj008...@jax4mhob12.myregisteredsite.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>
> I got a set of installation photos from somone's
> flickr or picasa web site.  I think it was an
> install on a 37+/40 about 2-3 years ago.
>
> Will the guilty party please set forward!
>
> Tom B
>
> .???`???,??,???`??`???,??,???`???.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 19:51:21 -0500
> From: Edd Schillay 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40
> Message-ID: <64c43b84-88f9-4cbe-8c59-bd20c6256...@schillay.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Tom,
>
> That depends on which install. One + owner had the hydraulic arm attached
> to the rudder post.
>
> Another (me) has an arm attached to the quadrant.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
> ???-
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the ?Starship Enterprise?
> C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> www.StarshipSailing.com
> ???-
> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
> ???-
> Sent via iPhone 11 Pro
> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> ? I got a set of installation photos from somone's flickr or picasa web
> site.  I think it was an install on a 37+/40 about 2-3 years ago.
>
> Will the guilty party please set forward!
>
> Tom B
> .???`???,??,???`??`???,??,???`???.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
>
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Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I don't know.  It was there when I bought the boat.  2 previous owners.

Josh

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 11:25 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Josh
>
> Is that a factory install?
>
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera
> 1990 C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2020, at 5:51 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 20:08:02 -0500
> From: Josh Muckley 
> To: "C List" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> If you share the pics we might be able to ID them.  Was it these?
>
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yZU1hczd0QlNEOWc
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
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Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Josh

Is that a factory install?

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On Feb 5, 2020, at 5:51 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 20:08:02 -0500
> From: Josh Muckley 
> To: "C List" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> If you share the pics we might be able to ID them.  Was it these?
> 
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yZU1hczd0QlNEOWc
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
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C-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of bwhitmore 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2020 9:39 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: bwhitmore
> Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] New thought re: anchor light?
> 
> 
> 
> Rick, I love the idea of the SOLAS tape!
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks everyone for a lot of great insights and ideas.  I'm going to mull it 
> around for q bit before making a final decision.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] New thought re: anchor light?
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Great idea, and very attractive!The only question is, my cove stripe is red.? 
> So does that mean I'd have to make it green on the port side?? :)Bruce?1994 
> C/40"Astralis"Sent from Samsung tablet.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2020 16:27:15 -0800
> From: Tom Buscaglia 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40
> Message-ID:
><202002060027.0160rhtj008...@jax4mhob12.myregisteredsite.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
> 
> I got a set of installation photos from somone's 
> flickr or picasa web site.  I think it was an 
> install on a 37+/40 about 2-3 years ago.
> 
> Will the guilty party please set forward!
> 
> Tom B
> 
> .???`???,??,???`??`???,??,???`???.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 19:51:21 -0500
> From: Edd Schillay 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40
> Message-ID: <64c43b84-88f9-4cbe-8c59-bd20c6256...@schillay.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Tom,
> 
> That depends on which install. One + owner had the hydraulic arm attached to 
> the rudder post. 
> 
> Another (me) has an arm attached to the quadrant. 
> 
> All the best, 
> 
> Edd
> 
> ???-
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the ?Starship Enterprise?
> C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> www.StarshipSailing.com
> ???-
> 914.774.9767   | Mobile
> ???????-
> Sent via iPhone 11 Pro
> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize
> 
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
> 
> ? I got a set of installation photos from somone's flickr or picasa web site. 
>  I think it was an install on a 37+/40 about 2-3 years ago.
> 
> Will the guilty party please set forward!
> 
> Tom B
> .???`???,??,???`??`???,??,???`???.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com 
> 
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> To: "C

Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Len Mitchell via CnC-List]

Tom, I sent pics of the factory installed linear drive to you and or Gary more 
than a year ago. Let me see if I can find them again and you can verify. 
Len

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Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[James Bibb via CnC-List]

Yes…interested. 



> On Feb 5, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Share the pictures... It might be me.
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI 02818
> ~~~_/)~~
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 7:28 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> I got a set of installation photos from somone's flickr or picasa web site.  
> I think it was an install on a 37+/40 about 2-3 years ago.
> 
> Will the guilty party please set forward!
> 
> Tom B
> .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com  
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Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Share the pictures... It might be me.
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI 02818
~~~_/)~~



On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 7:28 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I got a set of installation photos from somone's flickr or picasa web
> site.  I think it was an install on a 37+/40 about 2-3 years ago.
>
> Will the guilty party please set forward!
>
> Tom B
>
> .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
>
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[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

If you share the pics we might be able to ID them.  Was it these?

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yZU1hczd0QlNEOWc

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 7:28 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I got a set of installation photos from somone's flickr or picasa web
> site.  I think it was an install on a 37+/40 about 2-3 years ago.
>
> Will the guilty party please set forward!
>
> Tom B
>
> .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
>
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Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Tom,

That depends on which install. One + owner had the hydraulic arm attached to 
the rudder post. 

Another (me) has an arm attached to the quadrant. 

All the best, 

Edd

———-
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
www.StarshipSailing.com
———-
914.774.9767   | Mobile
———-
Sent via iPhone 11 Pro
iPhone. iTypos. iApologize


> On Feb 5, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 

 I got a set of installation photos from somone's flickr or picasa web site.  
I think it was an install on a 37+/40 about 2-3 years ago.

Will the guilty party please set forward!

Tom B
.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com 


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[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

I got a set of installation photos from somone's 
flickr or picasa web site.  I think it was an 
install on a 37+/40 about 2-3 years ago.


Will the guilty party please set forward!

Tom B

.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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