Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

2016-12-08 Thread James Bibb via CnC-List 
I’d be interested in this thread as my 34/36 R is slated for the 25 year 
replacement as well. 


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> On Dec 8, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> One of my young kids (at the time) uncleated the roller furler line on my 34 
> while sitting at the dock.  A few days later my genoa unfurled during a storm 
> and the sheet literally ripped one of the stays out of the mast.  Even back 
> then, Navtec had already gone to the new head system, so I bit the bullet and 
> replaced all the side stays with replacement Navtec rod.  The retrofit 
> required some unpleasant drilling and welding as I recall.  In addition, it 
> was expensive, even back then.  However, I bought the replacement stays from 
> South Shore Yachts, and the price was quoted in Canadian dollars.  The 
> currency exchange rate was favorable at the time, so I got about a 20% 
> discount.  While the new stays were being fabricated, the exchange rate 
> started moving and was quickly becoming less and less favorable.  As a 
> result, I promptly paid the outstanding balance to stop the bleeding.
>  
> The exchange rate is favorable now.  I don’t know how Rob is quoting Navtec 
> stays these days, but it’s worth checking out.
>  
> From: Patrick Davin via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 2:29 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> ; kellype...@msn.com 
> <mailto:kellype...@msn.com>
> Cc: Patrick Davin <mailto:jda...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process
>  
> I'm going through this process right now (see the list archive for my email 
> thread asking questions about it last month). It's a pretty complex topic, so 
> not something easily explained holistically in an email. I'm working on a 
> blog post (svviolethour.com <http://svviolethour.com/>) about it but there's 
> so much it will require a 3 part series. I'll try to get part 1 (planning / 
> decision making phase) up soon.
>  
> Reheading is a little cheaper but from what I've heard (in the list archive, 
> and other sources) it's not *that* much cheaper, and by the time most people 
> rehead (25 years is well past when they recommend), it's advisable to replace 
> the rest of the rig too. If you rehead 25 year old rods, what about the 25 
> year old turnbuckles, pins, and tangs? A rig is only as strong as its weakest 
> link. Also reheading is almost as much labor as a rerig.
>  
> I'm going with BSI rod. After talking to multiple riggers I learned Navtec is 
> not necessarily the defacto choice anymore, and BSI is doing a lot of today's 
> rod production, with often faster availability of parts.
>  
> -Patrick
> 1984 C&C Landfall 38
> Seattle, WA
>  
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:37 AM,  <mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> From: kelly petew mailto:kellype...@msn.com>>
>> To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
>> Cc: 
>> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 15:56:46 +
>> Subject: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process
>> Hello Listers,
>>  
>> My 30-2 is 25+ years young.  I've been the owner since 2003, and I am 
>> reasonably sure the standing, rog rigging is original.
>> I've met with a rigger and I am awaiting his recommendation ,including the 
>> costs and other options.  I'm hoping the existing rod [25 years old] can be 
>> re-headed as this would be the less costly route to go[not counting "doing 
>> nothing", of course].
>>  
>> I'm in the yard and they can pull the mast as early as next week.
>>  
>> That said, I would appreciate any tips on this project.  For example, once 
>> the mast is out, How best to plug the hole in the deck? 
>> Also, while the mast is down, I want to replace the VHF cabling, install LED 
>> lights, clean/paint the mast. 
>> Any suggestions in these areas would be great!!!
>>  
>> Fair Winds,
>>  
>> Pete W.
>> Siren Song
>> '91 C&C30-2
>> Deltavillle, Va.
> 
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Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

2016-12-08 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
One of my young kids (at the time) uncleated the roller furler line on my 34 
while sitting at the dock.  A few days later my genoa unfurled during a storm 
and the sheet literally ripped one of the stays out of the mast.  Even back 
then, Navtec had already gone to the new head system, so I bit the bullet and 
replaced all the side stays with replacement Navtec rod.  The retrofit required 
some unpleasant drilling and welding as I recall.  In addition, it was 
expensive, even back then.  However, I bought the replacement stays from South 
Shore Yachts, and the price was quoted in Canadian dollars.  The currency 
exchange rate was favorable at the time, so I got about a 20% discount.  While 
the new stays were being fabricated, the exchange rate started moving and was 
quickly becoming less and less favorable.  As a result, I promptly paid the 
outstanding balance to stop the bleeding.

The exchange rate is favorable now.  I don’t know how Rob is quoting Navtec 
stays these days, but it’s worth checking out.

From: Patrick Davin via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 2:29 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; kellype...@msn.com 
Cc: Patrick Davin 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

I'm going through this process right now (see the list archive for my email 
thread asking questions about it last month). It's a pretty complex topic, so 
not something easily explained holistically in an email. I'm working on a blog 
post (svviolethour.com) about it but there's so much it will require a 3 part 
series. I'll try to get part 1 (planning / decision making phase) up soon. 

Reheading is a little cheaper but from what I've heard (in the list archive, 
and other sources) it's not *that* much cheaper, and by the time most people 
rehead (25 years is well past when they recommend), it's advisable to replace 
the rest of the rig too. If you rehead 25 year old rods, what about the 25 year 
old turnbuckles, pins, and tangs? A rig is only as strong as its weakest link. 
Also reheading is almost as much labor as a rerig.

I'm going with BSI rod. After talking to multiple riggers I learned Navtec is 
not necessarily the defacto choice anymore, and BSI is doing a lot of today's 
rod production, with often faster availability of parts. 

-Patrick
1984 C&C Landfall 38
Seattle, WA

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:37 AM,  wrote:

  From: kelly petew 
  To: cnc-list 
  Cc: 
  Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 15:56:46 +
  Subject: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

  Hello Listers,



  My 30-2 is 25+ years young.  I've been the owner since 2003, and I am 
reasonably sure the standing, rog rigging is original.

  I've met with a rigger and I am awaiting his recommendation ,including the 
costs and other options.  I'm hoping the existing rod [25 years old] can be 
re-headed as this would be the less costly route to go[not counting "doing 
nothing", of course]. 



  I'm in the yard and they can pull the mast as early as next week. 



  That said, I would appreciate any tips on this project.  For example, once 
the mast is out, How best to plug the hole in the deck?  

  Also, while the mast is down, I want to replace the VHF cabling, install LED 
lights, clean/paint the mast.  

  Any suggestions in these areas would be great!!!



  Fair Winds,



  Pete W.

  Siren Song

  '91 C&C30-2

  Deltavillle, Va.







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Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

2016-12-08 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
So for 25+ year old boats that are not racing why do we replace rod with new 
rod rather than with wire?  I recall from somewhere that the cost of one rod is 
about the same as traditional wire for an entire boat.  What am I missing?

Mike

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Davin via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 3:30 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; kellype...@msn.com
Cc: Patrick Davin
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

I'm going through this process right now (see the list archive for my email 
thread asking questions about it last month). It's a pretty complex topic, so 
not something easily explained holistically in an email. I'm working on a blog 
post (svviolethour.com<http://svviolethour.com>) about it but there's so much 
it will require a 3 part series. I'll try to get part 1 (planning / decision 
making phase) up soon.

Reheading is a little cheaper but from what I've heard (in the list archive, 
and other sources) it's not *that* much cheaper, and by the time most people 
rehead (25 years is well past when they recommend), it's advisable to replace 
the rest of the rig too. If you rehead 25 year old rods, what about the 25 year 
old turnbuckles, pins, and tangs? A rig is only as strong as its weakest link. 
Also reheading is almost as much labor as a rerig.

I'm going with BSI rod. After talking to multiple riggers I learned Navtec is 
not necessarily the defacto choice anymore, and BSI is doing a lot of today's 
rod production, with often faster availability of parts.

-Patrick
1984 C&C Landfall 38
Seattle, WA

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:37 AM, 
mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
From: kelly petew mailto:kellype...@msn.com>>
To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc:
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 15:56:46 +
Subject: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

Hello Listers,



My 30-2 is 25+ years young.  I've been the owner since 2003, and I am 
reasonably sure the standing, rog rigging is original.

I've met with a rigger and I am awaiting his recommendation ,including the 
costs and other options.  I'm hoping the existing rod [25 years old] can be 
re-headed as this would be the less costly route to go[not counting "doing 
nothing", of course].



I'm in the yard and they can pull the mast as early as next week.



That said, I would appreciate any tips on this project.  For example, once the 
mast is out, How best to plug the hole in the deck?

Also, while the mast is down, I want to replace the VHF cabling, install LED 
lights, clean/paint the mast.

Any suggestions in these areas would be great!!!



Fair Winds,



Pete W.

Siren Song

'91 C&C30-2

Deltavillle, Va.

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Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

2016-12-08 Thread Patrick Davin via CnC-List 
I'm going through this process right now (see the list archive for my email
thread asking questions about it last month). It's a pretty complex topic,
so not something easily explained holistically in an email. I'm working on
a blog post (svviolethour.com) about it but there's so much it will require
a 3 part series. I'll try to get part 1 (planning / decision making phase)
up soon.

Reheading is a little cheaper but from what I've heard (in the list
archive, and other sources) it's not *that* much cheaper, and by the time
most people rehead (25 years is well past when they recommend), it's
advisable to replace the rest of the rig too. If you rehead 25 year old
rods, what about the 25 year old turnbuckles, pins, and tangs? A rig is
only as strong as its weakest link. Also reheading is almost as much labor
as a rerig.

I'm going with BSI rod. After talking to multiple riggers I learned Navtec
is not necessarily the defacto choice anymore, and BSI is doing a lot of
today's rod production, with often faster availability of parts.

-Patrick
1984 C&C Landfall 38
Seattle, WA

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:37 AM,  wrote:

> From: kelly petew 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 15:56:46 +0000
> Subject: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process
>
> Hello Listers,
>
>
> My 30-2 is 25+ years young.  I've been the owner since 2003, and I am
> reasonably sure the standing, rog rigging is original.
>
> I've met with a rigger and I am awaiting his recommendation ,including the
> costs and other options.  I'm hoping the existing rod [25 years old] can be
> re-headed as this would be the less costly route to go[not counting "doing
> nothing", of course].
>
>
>
> I'm in the yard and they can pull the mast as early as next week.
>
>
> That said, I would appreciate any tips on this project.  For example, once
> the mast is out, How best to plug the hole in the deck?
>
> Also, while the mast is down, I want to replace the VHF cabling, install
> LED lights, clean/paint the mast.
>
> Any suggestions in these areas would be great!!!
>
>
> Fair Winds,
>
>
> Pete W.
>
> Siren Song
>
> '91 C&C30-2
>
> Deltavillle, Va.
>
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Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

2016-12-08 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 10:53 AM, RANDY via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I did the board-and-rock thing last offseason :)
>
> This year I was looking for something a little more "elegant" :)
>


A bucket with some decals on it?

Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

2016-12-08 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
I use an upside down bucket.  Of course that is only required for a week or so 
until boat is covered.  I tie it down using the various blocks, fairleads etc 
at the mast base

Mike

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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 12:53 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: RANDY
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

I did the board-and-rock thing last offseason :)

This year I was looking for something a little more "elegant" :)

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C&C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO


From: "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: "cnc-list" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: "Joel Aronson" mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 9:35:03 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

heavy plastic and zip ties daisy chained together.  You can top it with a small 
piece of wood and a rock or other weight.

I'm rewiring my mast too. Marinebeam masthead and steaming lights, Got this for 
the VHF:
MPD Digital rg-213-pl259-75ft 75-Feet RG8u RG-213 Coax Antenna Cable with 
Amphenol


Joel

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:16 AM, RANDY via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

"Once the mast is out, how best to plug the whole in the deck?"

What I did this offseason was crude and simple, but hopefully effective.  I had 
a roll of thick plastic sheet laying around the garage, and a really big 
twist-tie thing made of rubber-coated wire.  So I just cut an oval of the 
plastic big enough to cover the hole with a few inches of overhang all around, 
then cinched it up around the base of the collar with the big twist-tie thing.  
It's not going to blow off, and it's not going to leak water, and it's not 
going to sag in.

Cheers,
Randy


From: "kelly petew via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: "cnc-list" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: "kelly petew" mailto:kellype...@msn.com>>
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 8:56:46 AM
Subject: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process



Hello Listers,



My 30-2 is 25+ years young.  I've been the owner since 2003, and I am 
reasonably sure the standing, rog rigging is original.

I've met with a rigger and I am awaiting his recommendation ,including the 
costs and other options.  I'm hoping the existing rod [25 years old] can be 
re-headed as this would be the less costly route to go[not counting "doing 
nothing", of course].



I'm in the yard and they can pull the mast as early as next week.



That said, I would appreciate any tips on this project.  For example, once the 
mast is out, How best to plug the hole in the deck?

Also, while the mast is down, I want to replace the VHF cabling, install LED 
lights, clean/paint the mast.

Any suggestions in these areas would be great!!!



Fair Winds,



Pete W.

Siren Song

'91 C&C30-2

Deltavillle, Va.



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Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

2016-12-08 Thread RANDY via CnC-List 
I did the board-and-rock thing last offseason :) 

This year I was looking for something a little more "elegant" :) 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C&C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

- Original Message -

From: "Joel Aronson via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Joel Aronson"  
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 9:35:03 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process 

heavy plastic and zip ties daisy chained together. You can top it with a small 
piece of wood and a rock or other weight. 

I'm rewiring my mast too. Marinebeam masthead and steaming lights, Got this for 
the VHF: 
MPD Digital rg-213-pl259-75ft 75-Feet RG8u RG-213 Coax Antenna Cable with 
Amphenol 

Joel 

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:16 AM, RANDY via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
wrote: 



"Once the mast is out, how best to plug the whole in the deck?" 

What I did this offseason was crude and simple, but hopefully effective. I had 
a roll of thick plastic sheet laying around the garage, and a really big 
twist-tie thing made of rubber-coated wire. So I just cut an oval of the 
plastic big enough to cover the hole with a few inches of overhang all around, 
then cinched it up around the base of the collar with the big twist-tie thing. 
It's not going to blow off, and it's not going to leak water, and it's not 
going to sag in. 

Cheers, 
Randy 


From: "kelly petew via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
To: "cnc-list" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
Cc: "kelly petew" < kellype...@msn.com > 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 8:56:46 AM 
Subject: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process 




Hello Listers, 




My 30-2 is 25+ years young. I've been the owner since 2003, and I am reasonably 
sure the standing, rog rigging is original. 

I've met with a rigger and I am awaiting his recommendation ,including the 
costs and other options. I'm hoping the existing rod [25 years old] can be 
re-headed as this would be the less costly route to go[not counting "doing 
nothing", of course]. 



I'm in the yard and they can pull the mast as early as next week. 




That said, I would appreciate any tips on this project. For example, once the 
mast is out, How best to plug the hole in the deck? 

Also, while the mast is down, I want to replace the VHF cabling, install LED 
lights, clean/paint the mast. 

Any suggestions in these areas would be great!!! 




Fair Winds, 




Pete W. 

Siren Song 

'91 C&C30-2 

Deltavillle, Va. 



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Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

2016-12-08 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List 
Hi Pete,

I got the estimate on a complete overhaul of my rigging, standing and running 
last week from, I suspect, the same rigger. Breathtaking is one way of 
describing it…

Anyway, you may be able to just re-head the existing rod which we did back in 
2000. But I suspect that your rigger will take Navtec’s recommendations and 
suggest completely replacing the rod. We talked about a non-rod conversion but 
I nixed that route. I have money “invested” in the newer K200 tang fittings. 
Which required a large cutout in the mast.  Those are pretty much the only 
things that will remain. For me it means new rod and toggles.

If you have the older K150 fittings with the stainless caps and aluminum rod 
you’ll need to replace those.

Covering the mast hole should be relatively simple. I’ve always just put 
something in to support some plastic and taped it on the edges. Buying a $7,500 
shed to put over it is another way to go.  ;-)

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
> On Dec 8, 2016, at 10:56 AM, kelly petew via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> My 30-2 is 25+ years young.  I've been the owner since 2003, and I am 
> reasonably sure the standing, rog rigging is original.
> I've met with a rigger and I am awaiting his recommendation ,including the 
> costs and other options.  I'm hoping the existing rod [25 years old] can be 
> re-headed as this would be the less costly route to go[not counting "doing 
> nothing", of course]. 
>  
> I'm in the yard and they can pull the mast as early as next week.
> 
> That said, I would appreciate any tips on this project.  For example, once 
> the mast is out, How best to plug the hole in the deck? 
> Also, while the mast is down, I want to replace the VHF cabling, install LED 
> lights, clean/paint the mast. 
> Any suggestions in these areas would be great!!!
> 
> Fair Winds,
> 
> Pete W.
> Siren Song
> '91 C&C30-2
> Deltavillle, Va.
> 
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Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

2016-12-08 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
heavy plastic and zip ties daisy chained together.  You can top it with a
small piece of wood and a rock or other weight.

I'm rewiring my mast too. Marinebeam masthead and steaming lights, Got this
for the VHF:
MPD Digital rg-213-pl259-75ft 75-Feet RG8u RG-213 Coax Antenna Cable with
Amphenol

Joel

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:16 AM, RANDY via CnC-List 
wrote:

> "Once the mast is out, how best to plug the whole in the deck?"
>
> What I did this offseason was crude and simple, but hopefully effective.
> I had a roll of thick plastic sheet laying around the garage, and a really
> big twist-tie thing made of rubber-coated wire.  So I just cut an oval of
> the plastic big enough to cover the hole with a few inches of overhang all
> around, then cinched it up around the base of the collar with the big
> twist-tie thing.  It's not going to blow off, and it's not going to leak
> water, and it's not going to sag in.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
>
> --
> *From: *"kelly petew via CnC-List" 
> *To: *"cnc-list" 
> *Cc: *"kelly petew" 
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 8, 2016 8:56:46 AM
> *Subject: *Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process
>
>
> Hello Listers,
>
>
> My 30-2 is 25+ years young.  I've been the owner since 2003, and I am
> reasonably sure the standing, rog rigging is original.
>
> I've met with a rigger and I am awaiting his recommendation ,including the
> costs and other options.  I'm hoping the existing rod [25 years old] can be
> re-headed as this would be the less costly route to go[not counting "doing
> nothing", of course].
>
>
>
> I'm in the yard and they can pull the mast as early as next week.
>
>
> That said, I would appreciate any tips on this project.  For example, once
> the mast is out, How best to plug the hole in the deck?
>
> Also, while the mast is down, I want to replace the VHF cabling, install
> LED lights, clean/paint the mast.
>
> Any suggestions in these areas would be great!!!
>
>
> Fair Winds,
>
>
> Pete W.
>
> Siren Song
>
> '91 C&C30-2
>
> Deltavillle, Va.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

2016-12-08 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
Even cruder and simpler: I typically set an oversized piece of plywood over the 
hole (to keep out the water), then put a cinder block on the plywood (to hold 
it in place).  Never had a problem with leaking or blowing away. 

Re-painting the mast is a different story.  How big of a project are you 
planning?

From: RANDY via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:16 AM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: RANDY ; kelly petew 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

"Once the mast is out, how best to plug the whole in the deck?"

What I did this offseason was crude and simple, but hopefully effective.  I had 
a roll of thick plastic sheet laying around the garage, and a really big 
twist-tie thing made of rubber-coated wire.  So I just cut an oval of the 
plastic big enough to cover the hole with a few inches of overhang all around, 
then cinched it up around the base of the collar with the big twist-tie thing.  
It's not going to blow off, and it's not going to leak water, and it's not 
going to sag in.

Cheers,
Randy




From: "kelly petew via CnC-List" 
To: "cnc-list" 
Cc: "kelly petew" 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 8:56:46 AM
Subject: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process


Hello Listers,



My 30-2 is 25+ years young.  I've been the owner since 2003, and I am 
reasonably sure the standing, rog rigging is original.

I've met with a rigger and I am awaiting his recommendation ,including the 
costs and other options.  I'm hoping the existing rod [25 years old] can be 
re-headed as this would be the less costly route to go[not counting "doing 
nothing", of course]. 



I'm in the yard and they can pull the mast as early as next week.



That said, I would appreciate any tips on this project.  For example, once the 
mast is out, How best to plug the hole in the deck? 

Also, while the mast is down, I want to replace the VHF cabling, install LED 
lights, clean/paint the mast. 

Any suggestions in these areas would be great!!!



Fair Winds,



Pete W.

Siren Song

'91 C&C30-2

Deltavillle, Va.




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Re: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

2016-12-08 Thread RANDY via CnC-List 
"Once the mast is out, how best to plug the whole in the deck?" 

What I did this offseason was crude and simple, but hopefully effective. I had 
a roll of thick plastic sheet laying around the garage, and a really big 
twist-tie thing made of rubber-coated wire. So I just cut an oval of the 
plastic big enough to cover the hole with a few inches of overhang all around, 
then cinched it up around the base of the collar with the big twist-tie thing. 
It's not going to blow off, and it's not going to leak water, and it's not 
going to sag in. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

- Original Message -

From: "kelly petew via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "kelly petew"  
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 8:56:46 AM 
Subject: Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process 



Hello Listers, 




My 30-2 is 25+ years young. I've been the owner since 2003, and I am reasonably 
sure the standing, rog rigging is original. 

I've met with a rigger and I am awaiting his recommendation ,including the 
costs and other options. I'm hoping the existing rod [25 years old] can be 
re-headed as this would be the less costly route to go[not counting "doing 
nothing", of course]. 



I'm in the yard and they can pull the mast as early as next week. 




That said, I would appreciate any tips on this project. For example, once the 
mast is out, How best to plug the hole in the deck? 

Also, while the mast is down, I want to replace the VHF cabling, install LED 
lights, clean/paint the mast. 

Any suggestions in these areas would be great!!! 




Fair Winds, 




Pete W. 

Siren Song 

'91 C&C30-2 

Deltavillle, Va. 



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Stus-List Looking for Tips on ROD Re-Rigging Process

2016-12-08 Thread kelly petew via CnC-List 
Hello Listers,


My 30-2 is 25+ years young.  I've been the owner since 2003, and I am 
reasonably sure the standing, rog rigging is original.

I've met with a rigger and I am awaiting his recommendation ,including the 
costs and other options.  I'm hoping the existing rod [25 years old] can be 
re-headed as this would be the less costly route to go[not counting "doing 
nothing", of course].



I'm in the yard and they can pull the mast as early as next week.


That said, I would appreciate any tips on this project.  For example, once the 
mast is out, How best to plug the hole in the deck?

Also, while the mast is down, I want to replace the VHF cabling, install LED 
lights, clean/paint the mast.

Any suggestions in these areas would be great!!!


Fair Winds,


Pete W.

Siren Song

'91 C&C30-2

Deltavillle, Va.

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