Re: Stus-List Northeast 39

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

5'6" IS a pretty good rule of thumb limit for Eastern North Carolina. 8 or 10 
feet of depth is much more common here than 15 or 20. Over the years I've 
probably bumped on every high spot, but only once was I not able to get myself 
off.

The original 6'1" draft on Imzadi wasn't going to cut it here, or in the 
Bahamas, so after talking to Mars Metals I took a Sawzall to the keel and cut 
it off at 5'3". Mars had me weigh the lead removed and sent me a torpedo bulb 
that looked sort of like a really thick wing (maybe 3 times as wide as it is 
tall) designed to maintain the stability of the boat. IIRC, took off 800 lbs. 
and the bulb added back 1150. 

With all the accumulated cruising crap, cabinets added, the wine rack, etc. she 
started out for 5'3 but ended up 5'6. I suppose it is the endplate effect of 
the shape of the bulb, but she still goes to weather like a witch - 29 degrees 
apparent in decent wind.

Thinking back I get a bit nostalgic... back in the day (2003) the keel mod cost 
me $3900, bulb, freight, and installation included. Ah for the good old days.

Rick Brass
Imzadi  C&C 38 mk2 #47
la Belle Aurore  C&C 25 mk1 #225
Washington, NC



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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 5:16 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John Conklin 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Northeast 39

I have a Mars modified bulb keel on my 37. They chopped it off to 5’6  which 
still can be tight around here in the Pamlico sound.
Nothing to really compare it to upwind except the people behind me! so little 
hard to tell ;) 

John Conklin 
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
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Re: Stus-List Northeast 39

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

I have a Mars modified bulb keel on my 37. They chopped it off to 5’6  which 
still can be tight around here in the Pamlico sound.
Nothing to really compare it to upwind except the people behind me! so little 
hard to tell ;) 

John Conklin 
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com


> On Aug 18, 2020, at 4:55 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> One of the guys who used to co-own a boat yard here in St. Michaels had a
> deep draft ex-racing boat and converted it for cruising. Chopped the extra
> keel off with a chain saw, and had Mars Metal take the lead and mold a wing
> keel (in halves) and bolted it on, faired it in and used it for a number of
> years. It sold.
> 
> Gary
> 
> -Original Message-
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> via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:31 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Northeast 39
> 
> Be cool if the keel was the same as a 40 or 41 at the top, just stick a K/CB
> keel on and save the deep keel for racing ;)
> 
> Joe
> 
> Coquina
> 
> 
>> On 8/18/2020 2:26 PM, Rob Ball via CnC-List wrote:
>> The project was a limited run boat from the Custom Shop - built by
> Bruckmann.  Not intended as a comfy cruising boat obviously . . . The market
> was intended for Long Island Sound and try to come up with something to
> appeal to C&C 40 owners looking for something uptick . . . .
>> Clearly much more carefully built, and one could add skylights now, but to
> get reasonable draft obviously a keel job is in order  . . . .
>> But it's always a shame to remove the engine from a Ferrari and put in a
> Chevy replacement . . .
>> 
>> Rob Ball
>> C&C 34 Escapade
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One of the guys who used to co-own a boat yard here in St. Michaels had a
deep draft ex-racing boat and converted it for cruising. Chopped the extra
keel off with a chain saw, and had Mars Metal take the lead and mold a wing
keel (in halves) and bolted it on, faired it in and used it for a number of
years. It sold.

Gary

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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joe Della Barba 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Northeast 39

Be cool if the keel was the same as a 40 or 41 at the top, just stick a K/CB
keel on and save the deep keel for racing ;)

Joe

Coquina


On 8/18/2020 2:26 PM, Rob Ball via CnC-List wrote:
> The project was a limited run boat from the Custom Shop - built by
Bruckmann.  Not intended as a comfy cruising boat obviously . . . The market
was intended for Long Island Sound and try to come up with something to
appeal to C&C 40 owners looking for something uptick . . . .
> Clearly much more carefully built, and one could add skylights now, but to
get reasonable draft obviously a keel job is in order  . . . .
> But it's always a shame to remove the engine from a Ferrari and put in a
Chevy replacement . . .
>
> Rob Ball
> C&C 34 Escapade
>
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Re: Stus-List Northeast 39

[Rob Ball via CnC-List]

You can probably get a good trade in with the old keel at Mars Keel in 
Burlington . . . .

Rob Ball
C&C 34  Escapade

-Original Message-
From: Joe Della Barba  
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Northeast 39

Be cool if the keel was the same as a 40 or 41 at the top, just stick a K/CB 
keel on and save the deep keel for racing ;)

Joe


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Re: Stus-List Northeast 39

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

What Rob said. I’ll take as much keel as I can. I run with 6’ 8” on my 37. I 
just stay out of the shallow places.

Of course, that’s easily said in my case. I have nine and a half feet at my 
dock. At low tide…

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 

> On Aug 18, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Rob Ball via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> The project was a limited run boat from the Custom Shop - built by Bruckmann. 
>  Not intended as a comfy cruising boat obviously . . . The market was 
> intended for Long Island Sound and try to come up with something to appeal to 
> C&C 40 owners looking for something uptick . . . .
> Clearly much more carefully built, and one could add skylights now, but to 
> get reasonable draft obviously a keel job is in order  . . . .
> But it's always a shame to remove the engine from a Ferrari and put in a 
> Chevy replacement . . .
> 
> Rob Ball
> C&C 34 Escapade
> 
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Re: Stus-List Northeast 39

[David Risch via CnC-List]

My 7'6" keel is an issue maybe 2% of my cruising time.  

So I can't go into a couple of harbors in New England...so what.  The draft is 
well worth the freight-train upwind performance when I want and/or need it.

Thank you Rob. 

1981 40-2  (no uptick needed.  Thank you very much)

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rob Ball 
Subject: Stus-List Northeast 39

The project was a limited run boat from the Custom Shop - built by Bruckmann.  
Not intended as a comfy cruising boat obviously . . . The market was intended 
for Long Island Sound and try to come up with something to appeal to C&C 40 
owners looking for something uptick . . . .
Clearly much more carefully built, and one could add skylights now, but to get 
reasonable draft obviously a keel job is in order  . . . .
But it's always a shame to remove the engine from a Ferrari and put in a Chevy 
replacement . . .

Rob Ball
C&C 34 Escapade

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[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

Be cool if the keel was the same as a 40 or 41 at the top, just stick a 
K/CB keel on and save the deep keel for racing ;)


Joe

Coquina


On 8/18/2020 2:26 PM, Rob Ball via CnC-List wrote:

The project was a limited run boat from the Custom Shop - built by Bruckmann.  Not 
intended as a comfy cruising boat obviously . . . The market was intended for Long 
Island Sound and try to come up with something to appeal to C&C 40 owners 
looking for something uptick . . . .
Clearly much more carefully built, and one could add skylights now, but to get 
reasonable draft obviously a keel job is in order  . . . .
But it's always a shame to remove the engine from a Ferrari and put in a Chevy 
replacement . . .

Rob Ball
C&C 34 Escapade

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[Rob Ball via CnC-List]

The project was a limited run boat from the Custom Shop - built by Bruckmann.  
Not intended as a comfy cruising boat obviously . . . The market was intended 
for Long Island Sound and try to come up with something to appeal to C&C 40 
owners looking for something uptick . . . .
Clearly much more carefully built, and one could add skylights now, but to get 
reasonable draft obviously a keel job is in order  . . . .
But it's always a shame to remove the engine from a Ferrari and put in a Chevy 
replacement . . .

Rob Ball
C&C 34 Escapade

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Re: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay

[Harry Hallgring]

My dear wife agrees with you. Dave Risch will confirm!

Harry

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On Jun 12, 2013, at 12:45 PM, "Hoyt, Mike"  wrote:

> Harry
>  
> The one place where the J27 shines over your 39 is when doing work below the 
> waterline!  That is one huge increase in surface area to prep and paint!
>  
> Really like your boat.  Great lines and very  pretty
>  
> Mike
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry 
> Hallgring
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:40 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay
> 
> It hasn't been an easy transition Mike!  I still go below and hunch over to a 
> 4'5" height and sleep in a fetal position in a 7' quarter berth. I will say, 
> I miss the roomy cockpit from the J27...
> 
> Harry
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6Beta
> 
> On Jun 12, 2013, at 9:47 AM, "Hoyt, Mike"  wrote:
> 
>> Harry
>>  
>> Looking at the interior pictures I don't see how you can squeeze yourself in 
>> Mirage after your years with the spacious J/27 interior on Cookoo Voodoo
>>  
>> Mike
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry 
>> Hallgring
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:35 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay
>> 
>> Northeast 
>>   39 For Sale on eBay
>> 
>> no, it's not mine!
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay

[Hoyt, Mike]

Harry
 
The one place where the J27 shines over your 39 is when doing work below
the waterline!  That is one huge increase in surface area to prep and
paint!
 
Really like your boat.  Great lines and very pretty
 
Mike



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry
Hallgring
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:40 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay


It hasn't been an easy transition Mike!  I still go below and hunch over
to a 4'5" height and sleep in a fetal position in a 7' quarter berth. I
will say, I miss the roomy cockpit from the J27...

Harry 

Sent from my iPhone 6Beta

On Jun 12, 2013, at 9:47 AM, "Hoyt, Mike" 
wrote:



Harry
 
Looking at the interior pictures I don't see how you can squeeze
yourself in Mirage after your years with the spacious J/27 interior on
Cookoo Voodoo
 
Mike



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf
Of Harry Hallgring
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:35 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
    Subject: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay


Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/C-C-Northeast-39-racer-cruiser-designed-
Rob-Ball-built-C-C-Custom-/151059978222?pt=Sailboats&hash=item232be057ee
#ht_501wt_1165> 

no, it's not mine!

Harry

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Re: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay

[Richard N. Bush]

Harry, I had to laugh at your comments, we actually did that when we went from 
our 25 to the 29 a few years back...it was hilarious! 


Richard
1987 33-II, Ohio River Mile 584

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor 
Louisville, Kentucky 40202 
502-584-7255



-Original Message-
From: Harry Hallgring 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Wed, Jun 12, 2013 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay



It hasn't been an easy transition Mike!  I still go below and hunch over to a 
4'5" height and sleep in a fetal position in a 7' quarter berth. I will say, I 
miss the roomy cockpit from the J27...

Harry


Sent from my iPhone 6Beta


On Jun 12, 2013, at 9:47 AM, "Hoyt, Mike"  wrote:



Harry
 
Looking at the interior pictures I don't see how you can squeeze yourself in 
Mirage after your years with the spacious J/27 interior on Cookoo Voodoo
 
Mike


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry 
Hallgring
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:35 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay



Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay


no, it's not mine!


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Re: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay

[Harry Hallgring]

It hasn't been an easy transition Mike!  I still go below and hunch over to a 
4'5" height and sleep in a fetal position in a 7' quarter berth. I will say, I 
miss the roomy cockpit from the J27...

Harry

Sent from my iPhone 6Beta

On Jun 12, 2013, at 9:47 AM, "Hoyt, Mike"  wrote:

> Harry
>  
> Looking at the interior pictures I don't see how you can squeeze yourself in 
> Mirage after your years with the spacious J/27 interior on Cookoo Voodoo
>  
> Mike
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry 
> Hallgring
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:35 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay
> 
> Northeast 
> 39 For Sale on eBay
> 
> no, it's not mine!
> 
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[Hoyt, Mike]

Harry
 
Looking at the interior pictures I don't see how you can squeeze
yourself in Mirage after your years with the spacious J/27 interior on
Cookoo Voodoo
 
Mike



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry
Hallgring
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:35 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay


Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/C-C-Northeast-39-racer-cruiser-designed-
Rob-Ball-built-C-C-Custom-/151059978222?pt=Sailboats&hash=item232be057ee
#ht_501wt_1165> 

no, it's not mine!

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Re: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay

[Harry Hallgring]

Jake,
The interior shots are from one sold somewhere on the Great Lakes two years 
ago, and the one at the dock is MIRAGE a couple years back as well. 

Harry

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On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Jake Brodersen  wrote:

> Pictures are from a sister ship, not the boat for sale….  Hm.
>  
> Jake
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Rouhi
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:09 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay
>  
> The price seems low for such a nice vessel... 
> 
> Cheers,
> Aaron R.
> Admiral Maggie,
> 1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540
> Annapolis, MD
>  
> 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> From: hhallgr...@icloud.com
> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:34:42 +
> Subject: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay
> 
> Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay
>  
> no, it's not mine!
>  
> Harry
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[Jake Brodersen]

Pictures are from a sister ship, not the boat for sale..  Hm.

 

Jake

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Aaron
Rouhi
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay

 

The price seems low for such a nice vessel... 

Cheers,

Aaron R.

Admiral Maggie,

1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540

Annapolis, MD

 

  _  

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:34:42 +
Subject: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay

 
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/C-C-Northeast-39-racer-cruiser-designed-Rob-
Ball-built-C-C-Custom-/151059978222?pt=Sailboats&hash=item232be057ee#ht_501w
t_1165> Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay

 

no, it's not mine!

 

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Re: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay

[Robert Abbott]

It's not the 'price'it's the deposit you need to put down to enter 
the auction.


Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


On 2013/06/12 12:09 AM, Aaron Rouhi wrote:

The price seems low for such a nice vessel...

Cheers,
Aaron R.
Admiral Maggie,
1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540
Annapolis, MD



To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
From: hhallgr...@icloud.com
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:34:42 +
Subject: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay

Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay 
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/C-C-Northeast-39-racer-cruiser-designed-Rob-Ball-built-C-C-Custom-/151059978222?pt=Sailboats&hash=item232be057ee#ht_501wt_1165>


no, it's not mine!

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Re: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay

[Aaron Rouhi]

The price seems low for such a nice vessel... 

Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:34:42 +
Subject: Stus-List Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay

Northeast 39 For Sale on eBay
no, it's not mine!
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Northeast 39 For Sale on eBayno, it's not mine!Harry
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