Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

2023-10-26 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I was inspired just now to move the water pump too. Out in cockpit locker it 
can freeze, but if I move it inside the cabin it will be above freezing during 
a cold snap. Also prevents the engine heat from making hot water when you don’t 
want it to be hot.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

2023-10-25 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Mine is on the way from England just in time for a Thanksgiving cruise. If 
things go as usual we’ll have a real cold couple of weeks before Christmas, 
instead of putting antifreeze in there I can just take it home 
Joe
Coquina

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 8:40 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

I’ve had my Plastimo 26 gallon tank under Touché’s aft dinette seat for over 15 
years. Like it very much.

Dennis C.



On Oct 20, 2023, at 5:55 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I am thinking about a bladder. The tank is enough of a mess that I am not sure 
I want to deal with it.
Has anyone had good luck with the Plastimo tanks?

Joe Della Barba
Coquina C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA


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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

2023-10-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I’ve had my Plastimo 26 gallon tank under Touché’s aft dinette seat for over 15 
years. Like it very much. 

Dennis C. 


> On Oct 20, 2023, at 5:55 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> I am thinking about a bladder. The tank is enough of a mess that I am not 
> sure I want to deal with it.
> Has anyone had good luck with the Plastimo tanks?
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina C 35 MK I
> Kent Island MD USA
>  
>  
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

2023-10-21 Thread Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List
I use a 10in carbon filter and drink my tank water. Water always tastes
fine.
FWIW

Douglas Mountjoy
1988 C LF 39
Mexico at large
1984 Sabre 34
Port Orchard, WA


On Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 08:15 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> If I like the bow tank I am going to do the same for the settee tank. New
> hoses while I am at it too, even though I rarely drink tank water it would
> be nice if I could without it tasting weird.
>
> I also got a carbon filter for the fill hose that helps a lot, our marina
> water is quite sulfur infused.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Neil Gallagher via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2023 8:44 AM
> *To:* Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
> *Cc:* Neil Gallagher 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank
>
>
>
> I put a Plastimo 26 gal tank in place of the original fiberglass tank
> under the port settee just this summer, so can't say how it will be
> long-term but am very happy with it so far.  Before installing I ground
> down the various rough edges in the space and put a plywood platform under
> the inboard part of it.  The tank has loops on the corners which I secured,
> and the tank has a bottom outlet which is also why I put it on a raised
> platform.  I suppose a bow tank would be similar.
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
> On 10/20/2023 6:55 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote:
>
>
>
> I am thinking about a bladder. The tank is enough of a mess that I am not
> sure I want to deal with it.
>
> Has anyone had good luck with the Plastimo tanks?
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

2023-10-21 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
If I like the bow tank I am going to do the same for the settee tank. New hoses 
while I am at it too, even though I rarely drink tank water it would be nice if 
I could without it tasting weird.

I also got a carbon filter for the fill hose that helps a lot, our marina water 
is quite sulfur infused.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

From: Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 8:44 AM
To: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
Cc: Neil Gallagher 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

 

I put a Plastimo 26 gal tank in place of the original fiberglass tank under the 
port settee just this summer, so can't say how it will be long-term but am very 
happy with it so far.  Before installing I ground down the various rough edges 
in the space and put a plywood platform under the inboard part of it.  The tank 
has loops on the corners which I secured, and the tank has a bottom outlet 
which is also why I put it on a raised platform.  I suppose a bow tank would be 
similar.

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY

On 10/20/2023 6:55 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote:

 

I am thinking about a bladder. The tank is enough of a mess that I am not sure 
I want to deal with it.

Has anyone had good luck with the Plastimo tanks?

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 





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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

2023-10-21 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
I put a Plastimo 26 gal tank in place of the original fiberglass tank 
under the port settee just this summer, so can't say how it will be 
long-term but am very happy with it so far.  Before installing I ground 
down the various rough edges in the space and put a plywood platform 
under the inboard part of it.  The tank has loops on the corners which I 
secured, and the tank has a bottom outlet which is also why I put it on 
a raised platform.  I suppose a bow tank would be similar.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY

On 10/20/2023 6:55 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote:


I am thinking about a bladder. The tank is enough of a mess that I am 
not sure I want to deal with it.


Has anyone had good luck with the Plastimo tanks?

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA


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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

2023-10-20 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
A couple of years ago the plastic tanks under teh settees in my cabin developed 
cracks. I found the material could not be welded, nor could I purchase 
replacements in the right size and shape. I ended up cutting the tops out of 
the existing tanks and putting a pair of bladder tanks in the remaining tanks 
shells. I had reservations about letting a bladder tank slide around under the 
settees, or taking a chance on a puncture from the storage bins on top of the 
old tanks. I lost a few gallons of water tankage, but I'm satisfied with the 
new arrangement.

Rick Brass
Imzadi  CC 38 mk2
Washington, NC
-Original Message-
From: Stus-List 
Sent: Oct 20, 2023 7:07 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com , Korbey Hunt 

Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CC 35 MK 1 bow water tank

I have a heavy duty bladder in my 34 CC located under starboard bench 
seat.  Works good. Connected to port side has a nylon tank.
 
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From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:55:20 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: CC 35 MK 1 bow water tank 


I am thinking about a bladder. The tank is enough of a mess that I am not sure 
I want to deal with it.
Has anyone had good luck with the Plastimo tanks?

Joe Della Barba
Coquina CC 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA






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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

2023-10-20 Thread Korbey Hunt via CnC-List
I have a heavy duty bladder in my 34 C located under starboard bench seat.  
Works good. Connected to port side has a nylon tank.

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From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:55:20 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank




I am thinking about a bladder. The tank is enough of a mess that I am not sure 
I want to deal with it.

Has anyone had good luck with the Plastimo tanks?



Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA




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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

2023-10-20 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
 

I am thinking about a bladder. The tank is enough of a mess that I am not sure 
I want to deal with it.

Has anyone had good luck with the Plastimo tanks?

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

2023-10-11 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I thought of just getting rid of it, but the stainless brackets are now on my 
porch – thanks Fedex. I worry that if the tank is half-full and I come off a 
big wave, that is a nice sledgehammer effect trying to move the tank forward 
and then aft.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

From: Jim Watts via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 6:47 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Jim Watts 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

 

Our bow tank was a custom build because it was cheaper than having Kracor set 
up the jigs to make a new batch. It has no baffles, which means it is held in 
place by stringers across the top. It also has no bolts to leak, which is good 
as it is now a black water tank. Unless it's really large, do you need that 
baffle in there? 




Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

 

 

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 08:05, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

The tank is in my driveway right now, so I really hope it wasn’t part of the 
hull!

It has a baffle that is a piece of plastic that slides into grooved wood 
supports. Those supports are bolted through the side of the tank and those 
bolts now leak. Also 50 years in a water tank has gotten to the wood, it is 
coming apart.

The only way to replace the tank would be a custom build, it is not any 
standard shape, it is contoured to fit the hull. I am going to replace the wood 
with stainless angle brackets and this time seal the bolts up!

Joe 

Coquina

 

From: Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:44 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> 
>; Doug Mountjoy mailto:svrebeccal...@gmail.com> >
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

 

Hi Joe, 

It sounds like your tank is an integral part of the hull. Both my LF38 & LF39 
and my Sabre have plastic tanks in the bow. When I bought the 38 someone had 
put in a bladder tank. O removed it and put in a plastic tank. Not horribly 
difficult. 

 

 

Douglas Mountjoy
1988 LF 39
Mexico at large
1984 Sabre 34
Port Orchard, WA


 

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 08:39 Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Anyone else have a water tank in the bow?

Mine is leaking, the bolts through the side of it leak and the wood that holds 
the internal baffle that the bolts are there for is coming apart.

Now I need to get the 120 or so bolts off the top to fix it.

 

Joe

Coquina

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

2023-10-10 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
Our bow tank was a custom build because it was cheaper than having Kracor
set up the jigs to make a new batch. It has no baffles, which means it is
held in place by stringers across the top. It also has no bolts to leak,
which is good as it is now a black water tank. Unless it's really large, do
you need that baffle in there?

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 08:05, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The tank is in my driveway right now, so I really hope it wasn’t part of
> the hull!
>
> It has a baffle that is a piece of plastic that slides into grooved wood
> supports. Those supports are bolted through the side of the tank and those
> bolts now leak. Also 50 years in a water tank has gotten to the wood, it is
> coming apart.
>
> The only way to replace the tank would be a custom build, it is not any
> standard shape, it is contoured to fit the hull. I am going to replace the
> wood with stainless angle brackets and this time seal the bolts up!
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> *From:* Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:44 AM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe ; Doug Mountjoy <
> svrebeccal...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank
>
>
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> It sounds like your tank is an integral part of the hull. Both my LF38 &
> LF39 and my Sabre have plastic tanks in the bow. When I bought the 38
> someone had put in a bladder tank. O removed it and put in a plastic tank.
> Not horribly difficult.
>
>
>
>
>
> Douglas Mountjoy
> 1988 LF 39
> Mexico at large
> 1984 Sabre 34
> Port Orchard, WA
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 08:39 Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone else have a water tank in the bow?
>
> Mine is leaking, the bolts through the side of it leak and the wood that
> holds the internal baffle that the bolts are there for is coming apart.
>
> Now I need to get the 120 or so bolts off the top to fix it.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

2023-10-10 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
The tank is not a triangle, the top is a rectangle and the bottom has angles to 
match the hull. One compartment forward of that is a small space that would fit 
a triangle.
Getting the 101 nuts off now to open it up and see what I have.

Joe
Coquina

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 1:29 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

Joe,

Touche' does not have a tank in the bow.  That area is pretty much open with no 
structure forward of the V-Berth step other than the anchor locker bulkhead.  
Suspect the tank is not structural.

Touche's water tank was under the aft seat of the dinette forward of the half 
bulkhead.  It may have been similar to your tank.  It was fiberglass with a 
riveted on top.  Lots of rivets.

I replaced it with a 26 gallon rectangular Plastimo flexible tank in the same 
location.  Very pleased.  Easy to remove it every spring and clean it on the 
dock.

You have often espoused flexible tank usage in aircraft.  Would you consider a 
triangular flexible tank in the bow?  A sistership here in my marina has a 
flexible wastewater tank in that location.
--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 9:39 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Anyone else have a water tank in the bow?
Mine is leaking, the bolts through the side of it leak and the wood that holds 
the internal baffle that the bolts are there for is coming apart.
Now I need to get the 120 or so bolts off the top to fix it.

Joe
Coquina
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2023-10-10 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
It is fiberglass and not a rectangle. The only way to replace it would be a 
custom-made tank.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina


From: Richard Bush 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 11:16 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

Joe, what material is your tank? Most tanks I've seen are one piece molded 
plastic or fiberglass; if it's aluminum, it might be easier to pull it out and 
replace with a new plastic one...?

Richard
1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 584

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220
(502) 584-7255


On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 10:39:23 AM EDT, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:



Anyone else have a water tank in the bow?

Mine is leaking, the bolts through the side of it leak and the wood that holds 
the internal baffle that the bolts are there for is coming apart.

Now I need to get the 120 or so bolts off the top to fix it.



Joe

Coquina
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2023-10-10 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
The tank is in my driveway right now, so I really hope it wasn’t part of the 
hull!
It has a baffle that is a piece of plastic that slides into grooved wood 
supports. Those supports are bolted through the side of the tank and those 
bolts now leak. Also 50 years in a water tank has gotten to the wood, it is 
coming apart.
The only way to replace the tank would be a custom build, it is not any 
standard shape, it is contoured to fit the hull. I am going to replace the wood 
with stainless angle brackets and this time seal the bolts up!
Joe
Coquina

From: Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:44 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe ; Doug Mountjoy 

Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

Hi Joe,
It sounds like your tank is an integral part of the hull. Both my LF38 & LF39 
and my Sabre have plastic tanks in the bow. When I bought the 38 someone had 
put in a bladder tank. O removed it and put in a plastic tank. Not horribly 
difficult.


Douglas Mountjoy
1988 LF 39
Mexico at large
1984 Sabre 34
Port Orchard, WA


On Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 08:39 Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Anyone else have a water tank in the bow?
Mine is leaking, the bolts through the side of it leak and the wood that holds 
the internal baffle that the bolts are there for is coming apart.
Now I need to get the 120 or so bolts off the top to fix it.

Joe
Coquina
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