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Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies

2021-10-17 Thread Paul Fountain via CnC-List

I just add diesel from the top when needed, you loose very little when changing 
the filter. As has been said on the list, a primer pump is another place for a 
leak and I have not needed it so far. While the flow rates are overkill, it is 
the smallest I could find that has an easily changeable filter of this type, 
and the extra capacity does not interfere with it at all. The filter is 
installed ahead of the pump, as is recommended by Racor to allow it to remove 
most of the water in the fuel.

I bought mine before the fire cap was required, and still don’t have one -

From: NickL via CnC-List 
Sent: October 17, 2021 9:21 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: NickL 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies


Dumb question on my part as I never had a Racor type filter previously 
installed on my boat.

500FG has no priming pump that I can see on the pictures.I suppose this is 
because one can just pour fuel from top after removing the top cover?

My engine is 2GM20 and from the flow rate perspective this filter is an 
overkill. I was initially going to install Racor 120 but wanted 230R10 for 
reason of having the priming pump.

Thanks

Nick
On 2021-10-17 9:01 a.m., Paul Fountain via CnC-List wrote:
We put a Racor 500 on Perception, located under the sink for easy access, 
replaces a spin on which was nothing but issues changing the filters and 
priming. We had a lot of ‘stuff’ in the diesel fuel when we bought Perception, 
and went thru a lot of filters in the early days.

Paul Fountain
Perception II
1985 C 33-II k/cb
Port Credit Yacht Club




From: Dave S via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: October 17, 2021 7:47 AM
To: Stus-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Dave S <mailto:syerd...@gmail.com>
Subject: Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies

Missing some info in my choice below - I agree with Andy’s comments about the 
shortcomings of the spin-on types which are known to be a PITA, however my 
installation location could not tidily accommodate a larger filter - also it’s 
worth checking not only the height of the filter but the required clearances 
above and below.

Dave - 33-2
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2021, at 8:38 PM, Dave S via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
After wading through the various models and -to me at least- someway confusing 
product info, recently purchased a new Racor 215R30 as a primary filter for my 
Yanmar 2GM.  I have not installed it yet.  Check industrial channels for this 
as I purchased mine for about 2/3 the price of an identical unit through marine 
channels.  This unit is oversized for our little engines and though it seemed 
large at first it will install neatly in windstar.  (33-2). The model I chose 
has a glass bowl and integral priming pump.

Dave
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2021, at 4:44 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I am considering replacing my old Racor primary filter assembly (currently 30 
µm filter) with one of the newer ones, but I am unsure what the difference is 
between them and hoping someone can clarify differences I might not recognize.  
I was initially looking at the 500 series turbine units which start around 
$200.  But there are also 120 series spin on units that are less than $100 and 
seem like they should work:
https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|2349059|2837510=133972#<https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C311%7C2349059%7C2837510=133972>

Does anyone know if there is a reason not to use the less expensive models?  I 
plan to also add a remote vacuum gauge at the helm station if that matters.  
Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies

2021-10-17 Thread NickL via CnC-List

Dumb question on my part as I never had a Racor type filter previously
installed on my boat.

500FG has no priming pump that I can see on the pictures. I suppose
this is because one can just pour fuel from top after removing the top
cover?

My engine is 2GM20 and from the flow rate perspective this filter is an
overkill. I was initially going to install Racor 120 but wanted
230R10 for reason of having the priming pump.

Thanks

Nick

On 2021-10-17 9:01 a.m., Paul Fountain via CnC-List wrote:

We put a Racor 500 on Perception, located under the sink for easy
access, replaces a spin on which was nothing but issues changing the
filters and priming. We had a lot of ‘stuff’ in the diesel fuel when
we bought Perception, and went thru a lot of filters in the early days.

*/Paul Fountain/*

*/Perception II/*

/1985 C 33-II k/cb/

/Port Credit Yacht Club/

*From:*Dave S via CnC-List
*Sent:* October 17, 2021 7:47 AM
*To:* Stus-List
*Cc:* Dave S
*Subject:* Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies

Dave - 33-2

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On Oct 16, 2021, at 8:38 PM, Dave S via CnC-List
wrote:

Dave

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On Oct 16, 2021, at 4:44 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List
wrote:

I am considering replacing my old Racor primary filter
assembly (currently 30 µm filter) with one of the newer ones,
but I am unsure what the difference is between them and hoping
someone can clarify differences I might not recognize. I was
initially looking at the 500 series turbine units which start
around $200. But there are also 120 series spin on units that
are less than $100 and seem like they should work:

https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|2349059|2837510=133972#

<https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C311%7C2349059%7C2837510=133972>

Does anyone know if there is a reason not to use the less
expensive models? I plan to also add a remote vacuum gauge at
the helm station if that matters. Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT

Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies

2021-10-17 Thread Paul Fountain via CnC-List

We put a Racor 500 on Perception, located under the sink for easy access, 
replaces a spin on which was nothing but issues changing the filters and 
priming. We had a lot of ‘stuff’ in the diesel fuel when we bought Perception, 
and went thru a lot of filters in the early days.

Paul Fountain
Perception II
1985 C 33-II k/cb
Port Credit Yacht Club




From: Dave S via CnC-List 
Sent: October 17, 2021 7:47 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dave S 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies

Missing some info in my choice below - I agree with Andy’s comments about the 
shortcomings of the spin-on types which are known to be a PITA, however my 
installation location could not tidily accommodate a larger filter - also it’s 
worth checking not only the height of the filter but the required clearances 
above and below.

Dave - 33-2
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2021, at 8:38 PM, Dave S via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
After wading through the various models and -to me at least- someway confusing 
product info, recently purchased a new Racor 215R30 as a primary filter for my 
Yanmar 2GM.  I have not installed it yet.  Check industrial channels for this 
as I purchased mine for about 2/3 the price of an identical unit through marine 
channels.  This unit is oversized for our little engines and though it seemed 
large at first it will install neatly in windstar.  (33-2). The model I chose 
has a glass bowl and integral priming pump.

Dave
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2021, at 4:44 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I am considering replacing my old Racor primary filter assembly (currently 30 
µm filter) with one of the newer ones, but I am unsure what the difference is 
between them and hoping someone can clarify differences I might not recognize.  
I was initially looking at the 500 series turbine units which start around 
$200.  But there are also 120 series spin on units that are less than $100 and 
seem like they should work:
https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|2349059|2837510=133972#<https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C311%7C2349059%7C2837510=133972>

Does anyone know if there is a reason not to use the less expensive models?  I 
plan to also add a remote vacuum gauge at the helm station if that matters.  
Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies

2021-10-17 Thread Dave S via CnC-List

Missing some info in my choice below - I agree with Andy’s comments about the shortcomings of the spin-on types which are known to be a PITA, however my installation location could not tidily accommodate a larger filter - also it’s worth checking not only the height of the filter but the required clearances above and below.Dave - 33-2 Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 16, 2021, at 8:38 PM, Dave S via CnC-List wrote:After wading through the various models and -to me at least- someway confusing product info, recently purchased a new Racor 215R30 as a primary filter for my Yanmar 2GM. I have not installed it yet. Check industrial channels for this as I purchased mine for about 2/3 the price of an identical unit through marine channels. This unit is oversized for our little engines and though it seemed large at first it will install neatly in windstar. (33-2). The model I chose has a glass bowl and integral priming pump. Dave Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 16, 2021, at 4:44 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:I am considering replacing my old Racor primary filter assembly (currently 30 µm filter) with one of the newer ones, but I am unsure what the difference is between them and hoping someone can clarify differences I might not recognize. I was initially looking at the 500 series turbine units which start around $200. But there are also 120 series spin on units that are less than $100 and seem like they should work:https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|2349059|2837510=133972#Does anyone know if there is a reason not to use the less expensive models? I plan to also add a remote vacuum gauge at the helm station if that matters. Thanks- Dave
S/V Aries1990 C 34+New London, CT

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costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to
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Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies

2021-10-16 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List

Dave,

A word of warning: the integral pump is very practical, but… they tend to leak, 
eventually. There is a maintenance kit available, but I did not have much 
success with stopping the leak and, eventually, I replaced the filter with the 
Racor SNAPP (23106-30 - Disposable Fuel Filter / Water Separator – SNAPP™ 
Series | Parker 
NA<https://ph.parker.com/us/en/snapp-disposable-fuel-filter-water-separator-racor/23106-30>).
 It is a complete assembly that you replace, but it comes with “quick connect” 
adapters for the fuel lines.

It comes with a plastic bowl, so if you are concerned with fire resistance, it 
is not good. But I subscribe to Andrew’s theory that if the fire is about to 
melt the bowl, you have probably bigger problems to worry about.

I, too, buy it from the “industrial channels” - a local CAT dealer. If you 
motor a lot, the replaceable filters (like the 500) might be a better deal, but 
I put about 15 h on the engine a year, so the solution is pretty cost effective.

Marek
1994 C270 ”Legato”
Ottawa, ON



From: Dave S via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:39 PM
To: David Knecht via CnC-List 
Cc: Dave S 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies

After wading through the various models and -to me at least- someway confusing 
product info, recently purchased a new Racor 215R30 as a primary filter for my 
Yanmar 2GM.  I have not installed it yet.  Check industrial channels for this 
as I purchased mine for about 2/3 the price of an identical unit through marine 
channels.  This unit is oversized for our little engines and though it seemed 
large at first it will install neatly in windstar.  (33-2). The model I chose 
has a glass bowl and integral priming pump.

Dave
Sent from my iPhone


Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies

2021-10-16 Thread Dave S via CnC-List

After wading through the various models and -to me at least- someway confusing product info, recently purchased a new Racor 215R30 as a primary filter for my Yanmar 2GM. I have not installed it yet. Check industrial channels for this as I purchased mine for about 2/3 the price of an identical unit through marine channels. This unit is oversized for our little engines and though it seemed large at first it will install neatly in windstar. (33-2). The model I chose has a glass bowl and integral priming pump. Dave Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 16, 2021, at 4:44 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:I am considering replacing my old Racor primary filter assembly (currently 30 µm filter) with one of the newer ones, but I am unsure what the difference is between them and hoping someone can clarify differences I might not recognize. I was initially looking at the 500 series turbine units which start around $200. But there are also 120 series spin on units that are less than $100 and seem like they should work:https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|2349059|2837510=133972#Does anyone know if there is a reason not to use the less expensive models? I plan to also add a remote vacuum gauge at the helm station if that matters. Thanks- Dave
S/V Aries1990 C 34+New London, CT

Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies

2021-10-16 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List

I hate the spin on type as you can’t change the filter easily or without making a mess. And it’s harder to inspect the bowl and the element. On the 500–which I installed on Masquerade—you just take the top off, pull out the element, replace it, and then top off the fuel in the filter with fresh fuel ( I keep a gallon handy for this). Bottom line: I would go with the 500. ( And get rid of the metal fire shield, which only gets in the way of taking a good look at the bowl. If that shield is necessary to prevent a fire melting the bowl , then the fire is too far gone anyway. Just another stupid rule.)AndyMasquerade Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA 02840+401 965 5260https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/On Oct 16, 2021, at 16:44, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:I am considering replacing my old Racor primary filter assembly (currently 30 µm filter) with one of the newer ones, but I am unsure what the difference is between them and hoping someone can clarify differences I might not recognize. I was initially looking at the 500 series turbine units which start around $200. But there are also 120 series spin on units that are less than $100 and seem like they should work:https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|2349059|2837510=133972#Does anyone know if there is a reason not to use the less expensive models? I plan to also add a remote vacuum gauge at the helm station if that matters. Thanks- Dave
S/V Aries1990 C 34+New London, CT

Stus-List Re: Racer diesel filter assemblies

2021-10-16 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List

Why are you replacing what you have? If it ain't broke...you know the rest.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 1:44 PM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am considering replacing my old Racor primary filter assembly (currently
> 30 µm filter) with one of the newer ones, but I am unsure what the
> difference is between them and hoping someone can clarify differences I
> might not recognize.  I was initially looking at the 500 series turbine
> units which start around $200.  But there are also 120 series spin on units
> that are less than $100 and seem like they should work:
> https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|2349059|2837510=133972#
> 
>
> Does anyone know if there is a reason not to use the less expensive
> models?  I plan to also add a remote vacuum gauge at the helm station if
> that matters.  Thanks- Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --
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>  Thanks - Stu
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