Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please... - MotionComfort?

2015-09-28 Thread Lee Youngblood via CnC-List 
Hi All,

One thing to consider is the motion comfort - bigger heavier boats aren’t 
bounced around as much as beamy light ones.  The best description of Ted 
Brewers Motion Comfort Number I’ve seen is at 
http://www.wavetrain.net/boats-a-gear/281-crunching-numbers-brewer-comfort-ratio

Course I’m biased, we are on a 35-II which is an anomy in even the C lineup, 
with a long narrow waterline.  I was once delivering a Catalina 350, quartering 
1-2’ wave slaps were bouncing & juddering the boat from the aft quarter, and I 
thought I must have snagged something, which was beating the hull up!  Once I 
went dead down wind, lining up with the waves it was quiet and stable.  

Hope that helps, Lee



On Sep 28, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

> The chart maps stiffness as heel from 1 pounds per square inch on the sails. 
> The three Landfalls,
> LF 42 - LF 43 - LF 38, have a sail area / displacement rating of around 15. 
> The 30-1 is 18.4, and
> the 41 is 19.35.  The Landfalls are stiffer due to less sail area, the 41 due 
> to a deep keel.
> 
> I have wondered if normalizing back to a common SA / Disp would be a more 
> useful comparison.
> 
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C 30-1
> 
> 
>  
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:12:55 -0500 
> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com> 
> To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please... 
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 
> 
> Isn't it wonderful to have a great resource like cncphotoalbum.com?  The 
> diagram is under "Technical Info" then "Stability Diagram".  The direct 
> link is: 
> 
> <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/stability.htm>. 
> 
> To be picky, it looks like the LF 42 is stiffer.  Otherwise the 30 MK 1 
> gets it. 
> 
> Also, since the site is a user supported resource, support can be given 
> at: 
> 
> <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226> 
> 
> Dennis C. 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Agreed. Somewhere in the archives there is a Dallenbach chart which shows 
> > the relative 'stiffness' of most of the early C's. It would be pretty 
> > useful in this selection. And the 30-1 is by itself. 
> > 
> > Gary 
> > 30-1 #593 
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > *From:* Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> > *To:* 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' 
> > *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> 
> > *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2015 2:52 PM 
> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please... 
> > 
> > The 30  MK I is supposedly the stiffest boat C made. 
> > 
> > Joe 
> > 
> > Coquina 
> > 
> > C 35 MK I 
> > 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...

2015-09-28 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
Agreed. Somewhere in the archives there is a Dallenbach chart which shows the 
relative 'stiffness' of most of the early C's. It would be pretty useful in 
this selection. And the 30-1 is by itself.

Gary
30-1 #593
  - Original Message - 
  From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
  To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' 
  Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
  Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...


  The 30  MK I is supposedly the stiffest boat C made.

  Joe

  Coquina

  C 35 MK I

   

   

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt 
Stratton via CnC-List
  Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:50 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Burt Stratton
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...

   

  I have a 74' 33-foot three quarter tonner, which I believe is the same hull 
and sail plan as the MK-1. I do believe my keel is longer, though. She draws 
6'6" and the MK-1 is listed at 5'6".  Layout is different but I don't think 
that would have much effect on performance. It is a superbly stiff and stable 
ride on Narragansett Bay, which is not a lot different from Buzzards Bay. She 
handles 20kts easily.gusts, too - even close hauled and points extremely well.  
I would recommend that boat any day. Something like that would also probably 
fit in the budget. I would trade mine for an MK-1 just for the far more 
comfortable layout and headroom forward.

   

  Burt

  On the hard in Walpole, MA

  Waiting for paint and other projects

  Hoping for a spring launch 

   

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via 
CnC-List
  Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:36 PM
  To: CNC CNC
  Cc: David
  Subject: Stus-List Recommendations Please...

   

  A good friend of mine would like to buy their first "big boat".  We sail out 
of Buzzards Bay which I affectionately call the "Washing Machine" resulting 
from the Bay's shallow water and strong afternoon S'Westerlies.   

  Their budget is around 15K and because of the aforementioned washing machine, 
need a stiff boat around the 30-34' size.  In addition to size, if my memory is 
correct there are certain "Marques" within a specific size range (33?) which 
are stiffer than others and would be better suited to the area.  

  So what size and what "Mark" version do you folks think would be appropriate?

  Thanks in advance!


  David F. Risch
  1981 40-2
  (401) 419-4650 (cell)


--

  Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:04:44 -0400
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Re; Boat names
  From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  CC: stevanpla...@gmail.com

  There's a C 40 here on Lake Ontario named "Vatican II" that's been for sale 
for a while. It's a centerboard model and nicely outfitted for cruising. Any 
connection?

  Has a big crucifix on both sides. Not really my cup of tea but unique anyway.

   

  Steve

  Suhana, C 32

  Toronto

   

  On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  My dad met a fellow in Vancouver who sold him on the C 27...and the brand. 
The fellow's name was Mike Pope, so naturally enough, his boat was called 
Vatican.

  Andy

  C 40

  Peregrine

   

  On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  My first boat, C 30MKI was named Trysail.  The previous owner sold Flying 
Scotts (I think) at one time so it was a play on words.  She still carries that 
name.

   

  My new boat, C 30 MKII, was named Lagniappe when I purchased her.  Talk 
about a mouth full and a triple repeat on the spelling when calling a bridge, 
marina, or vessel.  After the delivery trip North from Annapolis to Mystic I 
changed the name.  I got tired of repeating myself.  Didn't like the name 
myself, but anyone from New Orleans seemed to love it, reminded them of home.

   

  So I renamed my current boat HANUMAN.  Seems simple enough and I'm still 
amused that most folks can't pronounce it, nor spell it.  HA NEW MAN.

   

  Hanuman is a very prevalent character in the Ramayana and his picture is 
probably hanging on the wall in every Indian restaurant in the world.  Millions 
of kids watch him in cartoons.  He's carved into every early Buddhist/Hindu 
temple across Asia.  I just happen to be on the wrong side of the world now and 
I guess I spent to much time in Asia.

   

  Oddly enough, Hanuman is also the namesake of one of the J Class yachts.  The 
owner has spinnaker graphics similar to the tattoo on my leg. :)  Fortunately, 
I had the tattoo longer so I can say he stole my idea..lol   It's the Khmer 
version of Hanuman carved into the the temples of Cambodia, Laos, Thailand and 
Burma/Myanmar.

   

  Anyway, the Ramayana is one of those books everyone should read, or at least 
try to, once in their life.

Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...

2015-09-28 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Isn't it wonderful to have a great resource like cncphotoalbum.com?  The
diagram is under "Technical Info" then "Stability Diagram".  The direct
link is:

 <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/stability.htm>.

To be picky, it looks like the LF 42 is stiffer.  Otherwise the 30 MK 1
gets it.

Also, since the site is a user supported resource, support can be given
at:

<http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226>

Dennis C.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Agreed. Somewhere in the archives there is a Dallenbach chart which shows
> the relative 'stiffness' of most of the early C's. It would be pretty
> useful in this selection. And the 30-1 is by itself.
>
> Gary
> 30-1 #593
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *To:* 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2015 2:52 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...
>
> The 30  MK I is supposedly the stiffest boat C made.
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> C 35 MK I
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Burt
> Stratton via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2015 2:50 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Burt Stratton
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...
>
>
>
> I have a 74’ 33-foot three quarter tonner, which I believe is the same
> hull and sail plan as the MK-1. I do believe my keel is longer, though. She
> draws 6’6” and the MK-1 is listed at 5’6”.  Layout is different but I don’t
> think that would have much effect on performance. It is a superbly stiff
> and stable ride on Narragansett Bay, which is not a lot different from
> Buzzards Bay. She handles 20kts easily…gusts, too - even close hauled and
> points extremely well.  I would recommend that boat any day. Something like
> that would also probably fit in the budget. I would trade mine for an MK-1
> just for the far more comfortable layout and headroom forward.
>
>
>
> Burt
>
> On the hard in Walpole, MA
>
> Waiting for paint and other projects
>
> Hoping for a spring launch
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *David via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2015 2:36 PM
> *To:* CNC CNC
> *Cc:* David
> *Subject:* Stus-List Recommendations Please...
>
>
>
> A good friend of mine would like to buy their first "big boat".  We sail
> out of Buzzards Bay which I affectionately call the "Washing Machine"
> resulting from the Bay's shallow water and strong afternoon S'Westerlies.
>
> Their budget is around 15K and because of the aforementioned washing
> machine, need a stiff boat around the 30-34' size.  In addition to size, if
> my memory is correct there are certain "Marques" within a specific size
> range (33?) which are stiffer than others and would be better suited to the
> area.
>
> So what size and what "Mark" version do you folks think would be
> appropriate?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> David F. Risch
> 1981 40-2
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
> --
>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:04:44 -0400
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re; Boat names
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: stevanpla...@gmail.com
>
> There's a C 40 here on Lake Ontario named "Vatican II
> <http://www.boatdealers.ca/boats-for-sale/134805/cc-40-custom-centerboard-belleville-ontario>"
> that's been for sale for a while. It's a centerboard model and nicely
> outfitted for cruising. Any connection?
>
> Has a big crucifix on both sides. Not really my cup of tea but unique
> anyway.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> Suhana, C 32
>
> Toronto
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> My dad met a fellow in Vancouver who sold him on the C 27...and the
> brand. The fellow's name was Mike Pope, so naturally enough, his boat was
> called Vatican.
>
> Andy
>
> C 40
>
> Peregrine
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> My first boat, C 30MKI was named Trysail.  The previous owner sold
> Flying Scotts (I think) at one time so it was a play on words.  She still
> carries that name.
>
>
>
> My new boat, C 30 MKII, was named Lagniappe when I purchased her.  Talk
> about a mouth full and a triple repeat on the spelling when

Stus-List Recommendations Please...

2015-09-28 Thread David via CnC-List 
A good friend of mine would like to buy their first "big boat".  We sail out of 
Buzzards Bay which I affectionately call the "Washing Machine" resulting from 
the Bay's shallow water and strong afternoon S'Westerlies.   

Their budget is around 15K and because of the aforementioned washing machine, 
need a stiff boat around the 30-34' size.  In addition to size, if my memory is 
correct there are certain "Marques" within a specific size range (33?) which 
are stiffer than others and would be better suited to the area.  

So what size and what "Mark" version do you folks think would be appropriate?

Thanks in advance!


David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:04:44 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re; Boat names
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: stevanpla...@gmail.com

There's a C 40 here on Lake Ontario named "Vatican II" that's been for sale 
for a while. It's a centerboard model and nicely outfitted for cruising. Any 
connection?Has a big crucifix on both sides. Not really my cup of tea but 
unique anyway.

SteveSuhana, C 32Toronto
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
 wrote:
My dad met a fellow in Vancouver who sold him on the C 27...and the brand. 
The fellow's name was Mike Pope, so naturally enough, his boat was called 
Vatican.

Andy
C 40
Peregrine

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
 wrote:
My first boat, C 30MKI was named Trysail.  The previous owner sold Flying 
Scotts (I think) at one time so it was a play on words.  She still carries that 
name.
My new boat, C 30 MKII, was named Lagniappe when I purchased her.  Talk about 
a mouth full and a triple repeat on the spelling when calling a bridge, marina, 
or vessel.  After the delivery trip North from Annapolis to Mystic I changed 
the name.  I got tired of repeating myself.  Didn't like the name myself, but 
anyone from New Orleans seemed to love it, reminded them of home.
So I renamed my current boat HANUMAN.  Seems simple enough and I'm still amused 
that most folks can't pronounce it, nor spell it.  HA NEW MAN.
Hanuman is a very prevalent character in the Ramayana and his picture is 
probably hanging on the wall in every Indian restaurant in the world.  Millions 
of kids watch him in cartoons.  He's carved into every early Buddhist/Hindu 
temple across Asia.  I just happen to be on the wrong side of the world now and 
I guess I spent to much time in Asia.
Oddly enough, Hanuman is also the namesake of one of the J Class yachts.  The 
owner has spinnaker graphics similar to the tattoo on my leg. :)  Fortunately, 
I had the tattoo longer so I can say he stole my idea..lol   It's the Khmer 
version of Hanuman carved into the the temples of Cambodia, Laos, Thailand and 
Burma/Myanmar.
Anyway, the Ramayana is one of those books everyone should read, or at least 
try to, once in their life.
I hope I didn't put anyone to sleep with this tale
RobC 30 MKIIHANUMANNoank, CT




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Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...

2015-09-28 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List 
I have a 74' 33-foot three quarter tonner, which I believe is the same hull
and sail plan as the MK-1. I do believe my keel is longer, though. She draws
6'6" and the MK-1 is listed at 5'6".  Layout is different but I don't think
that would have much effect on performance. It is a superbly stiff and
stable ride on Narragansett Bay, which is not a lot different from Buzzards
Bay. She handles 20kts easily.gusts, too - even close hauled and points
extremely well.  I would recommend that boat any day. Something like that
would also probably fit in the budget. I would trade mine for an MK-1 just
for the far more comfortable layout and headroom forward.

 

Burt

On the hard in Walpole, MA

Waiting for paint and other projects

Hoping for a spring launch 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:36 PM
To: CNC CNC
Cc: David
Subject: Stus-List Recommendations Please...

 

A good friend of mine would like to buy their first "big boat".  We sail out
of Buzzards Bay which I affectionately call the "Washing Machine" resulting
from the Bay's shallow water and strong afternoon S'Westerlies.   

Their budget is around 15K and because of the aforementioned washing
machine, need a stiff boat around the 30-34' size.  In addition to size, if
my memory is correct there are certain "Marques" within a specific size
range (33?) which are stiffer than others and would be better suited to the
area.  

So what size and what "Mark" version do you folks think would be
appropriate?

Thanks in advance!


David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)



  _  

Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:04:44 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re; Boat names
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: stevanpla...@gmail.com

There's a C 40 here on Lake Ontario named "Vatican II
<http://www.boatdealers.ca/boats-for-sale/134805/cc-40-custom-centerboard-be
lleville-ontario> " that's been for sale for a while. It's a centerboard
model and nicely outfitted for cruising. Any connection?

Has a big crucifix on both sides. Not really my cup of tea but unique
anyway.

 

Steve

Suhana, C 32

Toronto

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

My dad met a fellow in Vancouver who sold him on the C 27...and the brand.
The fellow's name was Mike Pope, so naturally enough, his boat was called
Vatican.

Andy

C 40

Peregrine

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

My first boat, C 30MKI was named Trysail.  The previous owner sold Flying
Scotts (I think) at one time so it was a play on words.  She still carries
that name.

 

My new boat, C 30 MKII, was named Lagniappe when I purchased her.  Talk
about a mouth full and a triple repeat on the spelling when calling a
bridge, marina, or vessel.  After the delivery trip North from Annapolis to
Mystic I changed the name.  I got tired of repeating myself.  Didn't like
the name myself, but anyone from New Orleans seemed to love it, reminded
them of home.

 

So I renamed my current boat HANUMAN.  Seems simple enough and I'm still
amused that most folks can't pronounce it, nor spell it.  HA NEW MAN.

 

Hanuman is a very prevalent character in the Ramayana and his picture is
probably hanging on the wall in every Indian restaurant in the world.
Millions of kids watch him in cartoons.  He's carved into every early
Buddhist/Hindu temple across Asia.  I just happen to be on the wrong side of
the world now and I guess I spent to much time in Asia.

 

Oddly enough, Hanuman is also the namesake of one of the J Class yachts.
The owner has spinnaker graphics similar to the tattoo on my leg. :)
Fortunately, I had the tattoo longer so I can say he stole my idea..lol
It's the Khmer version of Hanuman carved into the the temples of Cambodia,
Laos, Thailand and Burma/Myanmar.

 

Anyway, the Ramayana is one of those books everyone should read, or at least
try to, once in their life.

 

I hope I didn't put anyone to sleep with this tale

 

Rob

C 30 MKII

HANUMAN

Noank, CT

 

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...

2015-09-28 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
The 30  MK I is supposedly the stiffest boat C made.
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt 
Stratton via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Burt Stratton
Subject: Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...

I have a 74' 33-foot three quarter tonner, which I believe is the same hull and 
sail plan as the MK-1. I do believe my keel is longer, though. She draws 6'6" 
and the MK-1 is listed at 5'6".  Layout is different but I don't think that 
would have much effect on performance. It is a superbly stiff and stable ride 
on Narragansett Bay, which is not a lot different from Buzzards Bay. She 
handles 20kts easily...gusts, too - even close hauled and points extremely 
well.  I would recommend that boat any day. Something like that would also 
probably fit in the budget. I would trade mine for an MK-1 just for the far 
more comfortable layout and headroom forward.

Burt
On the hard in Walpole, MA
Waiting for paint and other projects
Hoping for a spring launch

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via 
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:36 PM
To: CNC CNC
Cc: David
Subject: Stus-List Recommendations Please...

A good friend of mine would like to buy their first "big boat".  We sail out of 
Buzzards Bay which I affectionately call the "Washing Machine" resulting from 
the Bay's shallow water and strong afternoon S'Westerlies.

Their budget is around 15K and because of the aforementioned washing machine, 
need a stiff boat around the 30-34' size.  In addition to size, if my memory is 
correct there are certain "Marques" within a specific size range (33?) which 
are stiffer than others and would be better suited to the area.

So what size and what "Mark" version do you folks think would be appropriate?

Thanks in advance!


David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)

Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:04:44 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re; Boat names
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
CC: stevanpla...@gmail.com<mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.com>
There's a C 40 here on Lake Ontario named "Vatican 
II<http://www.boatdealers.ca/boats-for-sale/134805/cc-40-custom-centerboard-belleville-ontario>"
 that's been for sale for a while. It's a centerboard model and nicely 
outfitted for cruising. Any connection?
Has a big crucifix on both sides. Not really my cup of tea but unique anyway.

Steve
Suhana, C 32
Toronto

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
My dad met a fellow in Vancouver who sold him on the C 27...and the brand. 
The fellow's name was Mike Pope, so naturally enough, his boat was called 
Vatican.
Andy
C 40
Peregrine

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
My first boat, C 30MKI was named Trysail.  The previous owner sold Flying 
Scotts (I think) at one time so it was a play on words.  She still carries that 
name.

My new boat, C 30 MKII, was named Lagniappe when I purchased her.  Talk about 
a mouth full and a triple repeat on the spelling when calling a bridge, marina, 
or vessel.  After the delivery trip North from Annapolis to Mystic I changed 
the name.  I got tired of repeating myself.  Didn't like the name myself, but 
anyone from New Orleans seemed to love it, reminded them of home.

So I renamed my current boat HANUMAN.  Seems simple enough and I'm still amused 
that most folks can't pronounce it, nor spell it.  HA NEW MAN.

Hanuman is a very prevalent character in the Ramayana and his picture is 
probably hanging on the wall in every Indian restaurant in the world.  Millions 
of kids watch him in cartoons.  He's carved into every early Buddhist/Hindu 
temple across Asia.  I just happen to be on the wrong side of the world now and 
I guess I spent to much time in Asia.

Oddly enough, Hanuman is also the namesake of one of the J Class yachts.  The 
owner has spinnaker graphics similar to the tattoo on my leg. :)  Fortunately, 
I had the tattoo longer so I can say he stole my idea..lol   It's the Khmer 
version of Hanuman carved into the the temples of Cambodia, Laos, Thailand and 
Burma/Myanmar.

Anyway, the Ramayana is one of those books everyone should read, or at least 
try to, once in their life.

I hope I didn't put anyone to sleep with this tale

Rob
C 30 MKII
HANUMAN
Noank, CT




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Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...

2015-09-28 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List 
The chart maps stiffness as heel from 1 pounds per square inch on the sails. 
The three Landfalls,
LF 42 - LF 43 - LF 38, have a sail area / displacement rating of around 15. The 
30-1 is 18.4, and
the 41 is 19.35.  The Landfalls are stiffer due to less sail area, the 41 due 
to a deep keel.

I have wondered if normalizing back to a common SA / Disp would be a more 
useful comparison.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1



 
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:12:55 -0500 
From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com> 
To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please... 
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Isn't it wonderful to have a great resource like cncphotoalbum.com?  The 
diagram is under "Technical Info" then "Stability Diagram".  The direct 
link is: 
 
 <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/stability.htm>. 
 
To be picky, it looks like the LF 42 is stiffer.  Otherwise the 30 MK 1 
gets it. 
 
Also, since the site is a user supported resource, support can be given 
at: 
 
<http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226> 
 
Dennis C. 
 
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 
 
> Agreed. Somewhere in the archives there is a Dallenbach chart which shows 
> the relative 'stiffness' of most of the early C's. It would be pretty 
> useful in this selection. And the 30-1 is by itself. 
> 
> Gary 
> 30-1 #593 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> *From:* Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> *To:* 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' 
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2015 2:52 PM 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please... 
> 
> The 30  MK I is supposedly the stiffest boat C made. 
> 
> Joe 
> 
> Coquina 
> 
> C 35 MK I 
> 

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Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...

2015-09-28 Thread Chuck Borge via CnC-List 
Where does the Northeast 39 fit into that chart?
I thought by the numbers it was pretty stiff, too. Just curious...

Chuck B
C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA

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> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Isn't it wonderful to have a great resource like cncphotoalbum.com?  The 
> diagram is under "Technical Info" then "Stability Diagram".  The direct link 
> is:
> 
>  <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/stability.htm>.
> 
> To be picky, it looks like the LF 42 is stiffer.  Otherwise the 30 MK 1 gets 
> it.
> 
> Also, since the site is a user supported resource, support can be given at:  
> 
> <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/chandlery_2/store.php?crn=226>
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> Agreed. Somewhere in the archives there is a Dallenbach chart which shows 
>> the relative 'stiffness' of most of the early C's. It would be pretty 
>> useful in this selection. And the 30-1 is by itself.
>>  
>> Gary
>> 30-1 #593
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
>> To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
>> Cc: Della Barba, Joe
>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...
>> 
>> The 30  MK I is supposedly the stiffest boat C made.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> Coquina
>> 
>> C 35 MK I
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt 
>> Stratton via CnC-List
>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:50 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Burt Stratton
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I have a 74’ 33-foot three quarter tonner, which I believe is the same hull 
>> and sail plan as the MK-1. I do believe my keel is longer, though. She draws 
>> 6’6” and the MK-1 is listed at 5’6”.  Layout is different but I don’t think 
>> that would have much effect on performance. It is a superbly stiff and 
>> stable ride on Narragansett Bay, which is not a lot different from Buzzards 
>> Bay. She handles 20kts easily…gusts, too - even close hauled and points 
>> extremely well.  I would recommend that boat any day. Something like that 
>> would also probably fit in the budget. I would trade mine for an MK-1 just 
>> for the far more comfortable layout and headroom forward.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Burt
>> 
>> On the hard in Walpole, MA
>> 
>> Waiting for paint and other projects
>> 
>> Hoping for a spring launch
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via 
>> CnC-List
>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:36 PM
>> To: CNC CNC
>> Cc: David
>> Subject: Stus-List Recommendations Please...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> A good friend of mine would like to buy their first "big boat".  We sail out 
>> of Buzzards Bay which I affectionately call the "Washing Machine" resulting 
>> from the Bay's shallow water and strong afternoon S'Westerlies.   
>> 
>> Their budget is around 15K and because of the aforementioned washing 
>> machine, need a stiff boat around the 30-34' size.  In addition to size, if 
>> my memory is correct there are certain "Marques" within a specific size 
>> range (33?) which are stiffer than others and would be better suited to the 
>> area.  
>> 
>> So what size and what "Mark" version do you folks think would be appropriate?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> 
>> David F. Risch
>> 1981 40-2
>> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>> 
>> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:04:44 -0400
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re; Boat names
>> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> CC: stevanpla...@gmail.com
>> 
>> There's a C 40 here on Lake Ontario named "Vatican II" that's been for 
>> sale for a while. It's a centerboard model and nicely outfitted for 
>> cruising. Any connection?
>> 
>> Has a big crucifix on both sides. Not really my cup of tea but unique anyway.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> Suhana, C 32
>> 
>> Toronto
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My dad met a fellow in Vancouver who sold him on the C 27...and the brand. 
>>