Re: Stus-List Sailing with main topping lift
That's what I do as well. Mostly all upside.Keeps the halyard away from the mast so no slapping or chaffing. Only downside is having to reconnect halyard when going sailing, but that's not a big deal since I have to be up there anyway to remove the sail cover. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: William Walker via CnC-List Date: 30-09-2015 08:59 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: wwadjo...@aol.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing with main topping lift Dennis, I too have garhauer rigid and it was the first upgrade made to my boat. Wouldn't be without it. Do you see any downside to using the main halyard as topping lift when sails down ? Done this for years without adverse effects that I can see. I removed topping lift. Bill Walker CnC 36 Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: A main topping lift serves two primary purposes: 1) opening the top of the main to create more twist and 2) holding the boom up when the mainsail is not hoisted. In my opinion, the former is more suited to a rigid boom vang or boomkicker. If either are properly installed, they should raise the boom enough to twist off the main. The big advantage of a rigid vang or boomkicker is that it will allow you to detach the topping lift and move it forward to the mast while sailing. Why? To prevent damage to your mainsail. Topping lifts, in particular, wire topping lifts, will abrade the stitching near the leech of your main. In severe cases, you might eject a batten as the stitching in a batten pocket gives out. Rope topping lifts don't abrade nearly as much but they will, over time, cause damage to the stitching. We never sail Touche' with the topping lift attached to the boom. It is always detached from the boom and carried forward to the mast. We have a Garhauer rigid boom vang. On Touche' the topping lift is only used to stabilize the boom when the mainsail is not hoisted. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailing with main topping lift
I see no issue with using the main halyard to support the boom when the main sail is down. Sailed on lots of boats that do exactly that. Touche's topping lift is wire. I've just been to lazy to change it to a high tech line. I rigged a couple of fiddle blocks on the end for adjusting the height of the boom. Several marina friends asked me to duplicate the arrangement for their boats. I use a Harken 244 and 245 with V-cleat and a spring clip. Makes it easy to remove and carry forward. I have a loop of line on the mast to which the topping lift gets clipped. The adjusting line is then used to pull it tight. Dennis C. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:59 AM, William Walker via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Dennis, I too have garhauer rigid and it was the first upgrade made to my > boat. Wouldn't be without it. > Do you see any downside to using the main halyard as topping lift when > sails down ? Done this for years without adverse effects that I can see. > I removed topping lift. > Bill Walker > CnC 36 > > > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > -- > On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 Dennis C. via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > A main topping lift serves two primary purposes: 1) opening the top of the > main to create more twist and 2) holding the boom up when the mainsail is > not hoisted. > > In my opinion, the former is more suited to a rigid boom vang or > boomkicker. If either are properly installed, they should raise the boom > enough to twist off the main. > > The big advantage of a rigid vang or boomkicker is that it will allow you > to detach the topping lift and move it forward to the mast while sailing. > > Why? To prevent damage to your mainsail. Topping lifts, in particular, > wire topping lifts, will abrade the stitching near the leech of your main. > In severe cases, you might eject a batten as the stitching in a batten > pocket gives out. Rope topping lifts don't abrade nearly as much but they > will, over time, cause damage to the stitching. > > We never sail Touche' with the topping lift attached to the boom. It is > always detached from the boom and carried forward to the mast. We have a > Garhauer rigid boom vang. > > On Touche' the topping lift is only used to stabilize the boom when the > mainsail is not hoisted. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > ___ Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including > unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailing with main topping lift
Been doing this since the 1980s with no ill effect. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I with a rigid vang. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of William Walker via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 7:59 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: wwadjo...@aol.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing with main topping lift Dennis, I too have garhauer rigid and it was the first upgrade made to my boat. Wouldn't be without it. Do you see any downside to using the main halyard as topping lift when sails down ? Done this for years without adverse effects that I can see. I removed topping lift. Bill Walker CnC 36 Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 Dennis C. via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: A main topping lift serves two primary purposes: 1) opening the top of the main to create more twist and 2) holding the boom up when the mainsail is not hoisted. In my opinion, the former is more suited to a rigid boom vang or boomkicker. If either are properly installed, they should raise the boom enough to twist off the main. The big advantage of a rigid vang or boomkicker is that it will allow you to detach the topping lift and move it forward to the mast while sailing. Why? To prevent damage to your mainsail. Topping lifts, in particular, wire topping lifts, will abrade the stitching near the leech of your main. In severe cases, you might eject a batten as the stitching in a batten pocket gives out. Rope topping lifts don't abrade nearly as much but they will, over time, cause damage to the stitching. We never sail Touche' with the topping lift attached to the boom. It is always detached from the boom and carried forward to the mast. We have a Garhauer rigid boom vang. On Touche' the topping lift is only used to stabilize the boom when the mainsail is not hoisted. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sailing with main topping lift
Dennis, I too have garhauer rigid and it was the first upgrade made to my boat. Wouldn't be without it. Do you see any downside to using the main halyard as topping lift when sails down ? Done this for years without adverse effects that I can see. I removed topping lift. Bill Walker CnC 36 Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: A main topping lift serves two primary purposes: 1) opening the top of the main to create more twist and 2) holding the boom up when the mainsail is not hoisted. In my opinion, the former is more suited to a rigid boom vang or boomkicker. If either are properly installed, they should raise the boom enough to twist off the main. The big advantage of a rigid vang or boomkicker is that it will allow you to detach the topping lift and move it forward to the mast while sailing. Why? To prevent damage to your mainsail. Topping lifts, in particular, wire topping lifts, will abrade the stitching near the leech of your main. In severe cases, you might eject a batten as the stitching in a batten pocket gives out. Rope topping lifts don't abrade nearly as much but they will, over time, cause damage to the stitching. We never sail Touche' with the topping lift attached to the boom. It is always detached from the boom and carried forward to the mast. We have a Garhauer rigid boom vang. On Touche' the topping lift is only used to stabilize the boom when the mainsail is not hoisted. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Sailing with main topping lift
A main topping lift serves two primary purposes: 1) opening the top of the main to create more twist and 2) holding the boom up when the mainsail is not hoisted. In my opinion, the former is more suited to a rigid boom vang or boomkicker. If either are properly installed, they should raise the boom enough to twist off the main. The big advantage of a rigid vang or boomkicker is that it will allow you to detach the topping lift and move it forward to the mast while sailing. Why? To prevent damage to your mainsail. Topping lifts, in particular, wire topping lifts, will abrade the stitching near the leech of your main. In severe cases, you might eject a batten as the stitching in a batten pocket gives out. Rope topping lifts don't abrade nearly as much but they will, over time, cause damage to the stitching. We never sail Touche' with the topping lift attached to the boom. It is always detached from the boom and carried forward to the mast. We have a Garhauer rigid boom vang. On Touche' the topping lift is only used to stabilize the boom when the mainsail is not hoisted. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
