Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question
That was $20 for a package of 10. ¼” x 2” zinc plated (which was what was OEM on my 25) are $1.24 for a package of 2 at Lowes. 5/16” x 2” stainless at $17 for a pack of 15 at Lowes - almost enough for 4 boats. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edward Levert via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:21 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edward Levert <weeselev...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question Kevin: Rather than the hanger bolts shown at Home Depot at $20 each, ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question
Bruce, thanks for that tidbit of info. I am up grading to a LF39 that 2 jabsco heads. My 38LF has the Raritan head. Was not looking forward to the $800 upgrade cost for both heads. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus Lf38 Original message From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 4/17/17 15:54 (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bruce Whitmore <bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question Just FYI for your consideration, Raritan makes a pump kit that can be used with the existing bowl, and it is way cheaper than a new Raritan head. On our old C 27, I replaced our Jabsco with a Raritan, and really felt that their pump and lever design was better than the up-and-down pump of the Jabsco. Now that we've upgraded boats, our '94 C 37/40+ has a Jabsco, and when it comes time for an overhaul, I think I'll convert it to a Raritan with the pump kit. Just my $.02 worth, Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net From: Kevin Paxton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Kevin Paxton <kpax...@paxdesigns.com> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:34 AM Subject: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question Hey everyone,I'm going to be replacing the toilet on our 34 in the next week or so. Last time I was down there I was looking at how it's mounted and noticed that it's up on a little platform and looks like there are thru-bolts holding it in place. I'm assuming that there is then a bolt on the underside that I will need to try and hold in place to loosen and tighten. I can't seem to figure out how to get under there though? I've thought that maybe the wall panel towards the v-berth comes off, but haven't tried it yet. Typically when I do something like that, something breaks and I'd prefer not to break something if I don't have to. :-) Any ideas on how to get to the underside of that platform for mounting a new toilet to it? Also, if I need to drill new holes for the new toilet, should I fill the old holes? If so, with what? Thanks, Kevin Paxton'82 34 #473Japhys SpiritCornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question
Just FYI for your consideration, Raritan makes a pump kit that can be used with the existing bowl, and it is way cheaper than a new Raritan head. On our old C 27, I replaced our Jabsco with a Raritan, and really felt that their pump and lever design was better than the up-and-down pump of the Jabsco. Now that we've upgraded boats, our '94 C 37/40+ has a Jabsco, and when it comes time for an overhaul, I think I'll convert it to a Raritan with the pump kit. Just my $.02 worth, Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net From: Kevin Paxton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Kevin Paxton <kpax...@paxdesigns.com> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:34 AM Subject: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question Hey everyone,I'm going to be replacing the toilet on our 34 in the next week or so. Last time I was down there I was looking at how it's mounted and noticed that it's up on a little platform and looks like there are thru-bolts holding it in place. I'm assuming that there is then a bolt on the underside that I will need to try and hold in place to loosen and tighten. I can't seem to figure out how to get under there though? I've thought that maybe the wall panel towards the v-berth comes off, but haven't tried it yet. Typically when I do something like that, something breaks and I'd prefer not to break something if I don't have to. :-) Any ideas on how to get to the underside of that platform for mounting a new toilet to it? Also, if I need to drill new holes for the new toilet, should I fill the old holes? If so, with what? Thanks, Kevin Paxton'82 34 #473Japhys SpiritCornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question
Kevin: Before purchasing the new head, I measured and measured the available space. I made the purchase of the larger bowl when I was satisfied it would fit. Out of the box, the head had it pump on the right side facing the head, same as the head I was removing. I got the new one screwed to the base and plumbed. Only then when I put the toilet seat on did I find out that the angled side wall prevented the seat from raising. After worrying what to do with the new head, I had the idea to switch the pump to the other side, an easy chore. Luckily it all fit. The moral is to see how it fits, seat included, before you start drilling. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Ed, > I got the Jabsco compact and was actually concerned about the size of it > as well. I'm debating on switching the side of the pump as well. Did it > gain you that much room? > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM Edward Levert> wrote: > >> Kevin: >> >> I recently replaced the head on my "81 C 34. Rather than the hanger >> bolts shown at Home Depot at $20 each, I used lag screws. Much cheaper. >> Also, I was able to fit a large bowl Jabsco into the head compartment by >> reversing the pump to the left side of the head. Otherwise, the angled wall >> forward of the head prohibited from raising the seat. >> >> Ed >> Briar Patch >> New Orleans, La. >> >> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey everyone, >>> I'm going to be replacing the toilet on our 34 in the next week or so. >>> Last time I was down there I was looking at how it's mounted and noticed >>> that it's up on a little platform and looks like there are thru-bolts >>> holding it in place. I'm assuming that there is then a bolt on the >>> underside that I will need to try and hold in place to loosen and tighten. >>> I can't seem to figure out how to get under there though? I've thought that >>> maybe the wall panel towards the v-berth comes off, but haven't tried it >>> yet. Typically when I do something like that, something breaks and I'd >>> prefer not to break something if I don't have to. :-) >>> >>> Any ideas on how to get to the underside of that platform for mounting a >>> new toilet to it? >>> >>> Also, if I need to drill new holes for the new toilet, should I fill the >>> old holes? If so, with what? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Kevin Paxton >>> '82 34 #473 >>> Japhys Spirit >>> Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >>> >>> >> > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question
Hi Kevin, Dittos on the lag screws. Also, be sure to do a dry fit including making sure that you can get all the hoses attached. I believe I used 5200 (or 4200) on the holes and also on the lag screws. My head had a wood backer underneath the fiberglass platform. Gene "Hawk" C 29-2 '84 > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Hey everyone, > I'm going to be replacing the toilet on our 34 in the next week or so. > Last time I was down there I was looking at how it's mounted and noticed > that it's up on a little platform and looks like there are thru-bolts > holding it in place. I'm assuming that there is then a bolt on the > underside that I will need to try and hold in place to loosen and tighten. > I can't seem to figure out how to get under there though? I've thought that > maybe the wall panel towards the v-berth comes off, but haven't tried it > yet. Typically when I do something like that, something breaks and I'd > prefer not to break something if I don't have to. :-) > > Any ideas on how to get to the underside of that platform for mounting > a new toilet to it? > > Also, if I need to drill new holes for the new toilet, should I fill > the old holes? If so, with what? > > Thanks, > > Kevin Paxton > '82 34 #473 > Japhys Spirit > Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD > > ___ > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question
It’s all coming back to me. Space was an issue on the 34, and I also switched the side of the pump. I forget the toilet type, but it barely fit even as reconfigured. From: Kevin Paxton via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:58 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Kevin Paxton Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question Ed, I got the Jabsco compact and was actually concerned about the size of it as well. I'm debating on switching the side of the pump as well. Did it gain you that much room? On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM Edward Levert <weeselev...@gmail.com> wrote: Kevin: I recently replaced the head on my "81 C 34. Rather than the hanger bolts shown at Home Depot at $20 each, I used lag screws. Much cheaper. Also, I was able to fit a large bowl Jabsco into the head compartment by reversing the pump to the left side of the head. Otherwise, the angled wall forward of the head prohibited from raising the seat. Ed Briar Patch New Orleans, La. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Hey everyone, I'm going to be replacing the toilet on our 34 in the next week or so. Last time I was down there I was looking at how it's mounted and noticed that it's up on a little platform and looks like there are thru-bolts holding it in place. I'm assuming that there is then a bolt on the underside that I will need to try and hold in place to loosen and tighten. I can't seem to figure out how to get under there though? I've thought that maybe the wall panel towards the v-berth comes off, but haven't tried it yet. Typically when I do something like that, something breaks and I'd prefer not to break something if I don't have to. :-) Any ideas on how to get to the underside of that platform for mounting a new toilet to it? Also, if I need to drill new holes for the new toilet, should I fill the old holes? If so, with what? Thanks, Kevin Paxton '82 34 #473 Japhys Spirit Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question
Ed, I got the Jabsco compact and was actually concerned about the size of it as well. I'm debating on switching the side of the pump as well. Did it gain you that much room? On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM Edward Levertwrote: > Kevin: > > I recently replaced the head on my "81 C 34. Rather than the hanger > bolts shown at Home Depot at $20 each, I used lag screws. Much cheaper. > Also, I was able to fit a large bowl Jabsco into the head compartment by > reversing the pump to the left side of the head. Otherwise, the angled wall > forward of the head prohibited from raising the seat. > > Ed > Briar Patch > New Orleans, La. > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Hey everyone, >> I'm going to be replacing the toilet on our 34 in the next week or so. >> Last time I was down there I was looking at how it's mounted and noticed >> that it's up on a little platform and looks like there are thru-bolts >> holding it in place. I'm assuming that there is then a bolt on the >> underside that I will need to try and hold in place to loosen and tighten. >> I can't seem to figure out how to get under there though? I've thought that >> maybe the wall panel towards the v-berth comes off, but haven't tried it >> yet. Typically when I do something like that, something breaks and I'd >> prefer not to break something if I don't have to. :-) >> >> Any ideas on how to get to the underside of that platform for mounting a >> new toilet to it? >> >> Also, if I need to drill new holes for the new toilet, should I fill the >> old holes? If so, with what? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin Paxton >> '82 34 #473 >> Japhys Spirit >> Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD >> >> ___ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> >> > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question
Kevin: I recently replaced the head on my "81 C 34. Rather than the hanger bolts shown at Home Depot at $20 each, I used lag screws. Much cheaper. Also, I was able to fit a large bowl Jabsco into the head compartment by reversing the pump to the left side of the head. Otherwise, the angled wall forward of the head prohibited from raising the seat. Ed Briar Patch New Orleans, La. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hey everyone, > I'm going to be replacing the toilet on our 34 in the next week or so. > Last time I was down there I was looking at how it's mounted and noticed > that it's up on a little platform and looks like there are thru-bolts > holding it in place. I'm assuming that there is then a bolt on the > underside that I will need to try and hold in place to loosen and tighten. > I can't seem to figure out how to get under there though? I've thought that > maybe the wall panel towards the v-berth comes off, but haven't tried it > yet. Typically when I do something like that, something breaks and I'd > prefer not to break something if I don't have to. :-) > > Any ideas on how to get to the underside of that platform for mounting a > new toilet to it? > > Also, if I need to drill new holes for the new toilet, should I fill the > old holes? If so, with what? > > Thanks, > > Kevin Paxton > '82 34 #473 > Japhys Spirit > Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question
Same on the 25MKII Bill Dakin > On Apr 17, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List >wrote: > > Kevin, > > Not sure if the 34 is the same as my 35-1, but in my case the toilet was > mounted on a platform as you describe, and the there are studs, not thru > bolts, that hold the toilet ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question
Thanks guys. That makes it a lot simpler. Relieved to hear. :-) Kevin Paxton '82 34 #473 Japhys Spirit Cornfield Creek, Magothy River, MD On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:15 AM Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I believe it is the same on the 34. I recall replacing the toilet as Neil > described below. > > *From:* Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 9:06 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Neil Gallagher <njgallag...@optonline.net> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question > > Kevin, > > Not sure if the 34 is the same as my 35-1, but in my case the toilet was > mounted on a platform as you describe, and the there are studs, not thru > bolts, that hold the toilet down. The "studs" are called hanger bolts, > they have a wood-screw thread on one end, and a machine thread on the > other, with the wood screw end going into the platform. I filled the old > holes with epoxy, and drilled and screwed in the new hanger bolts. > > > http://www.homedepot.com/p/The-Hillman-Group-5-16-in-18-tpi-x-2-in-Stainless-Steel-Hanger-Bolt-10-Pack-44948/204775370?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-BASE-PLA-D25H-Hardware%7c=CKvV9JXFq9MCFdmCswodRvgHZQ=aw.ds > > Neil Gallagher > Weatherly 35-1 > Glen Cove, NY > > > On 4/17/2017 8:33 AM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List wrote: > > Hey everyone, > I'm going to be replacing the toilet on our 34 in the next week or so. > Last time I was down there I was looking at how it's mounted and noticed > that it's up on a little platform and looks like there are thru-bolts > holding it in place. I'm assuming that there is then a bolt on the > underside that I will need to try and hold in place to loosen and tighten. > I can't seem to figure out how to get under there though? I've thought that > maybe the wall panel towards the v-berth comes off, but haven't tried it > yet. Typically when I do something like that, something breaks and I'd > prefer not to break something if I don't have to. :-) > > Any ideas on how to get to the underside of that platform for mounting a > new toilet to it? > > Also, if I need to drill new holes for the new toilet, should I fill the > old holes? If so, with what? > > Thanks, > > Kevin Paxton > '82 34 #473 > Japhys Spirit > Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD > > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish > to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > > -- > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question
I believe it is the same on the 34. I recall replacing the toilet as Neil described below. From: Neil Gallagher via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 9:06 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Neil Gallagher Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question Kevin, Not sure if the 34 is the same as my 35-1, but in my case the toilet was mounted on a platform as you describe, and the there are studs, not thru bolts, that hold the toilet down. The "studs" are called hanger bolts, they have a wood-screw thread on one end, and a machine thread on the other, with the wood screw end going into the platform. I filled the old holes with epoxy, and drilled and screwed in the new hanger bolts. http://www.homedepot.com/p/The-Hillman-Group-5-16-in-18-tpi-x-2-in-Stainless-Steel-Hanger-Bolt-10-Pack-44948/204775370?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-BASE-PLA-D25H-Hardware%7c=CKvV9JXFq9MCFdmCswodRvgHZQ=aw.ds Neil Gallagher Weatherly 35-1 Glen Cove, NY On 4/17/2017 8:33 AM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List wrote: Hey everyone, I'm going to be replacing the toilet on our 34 in the next week or so. Last time I was down there I was looking at how it's mounted and noticed that it's up on a little platform and looks like there are thru-bolts holding it in place. I'm assuming that there is then a bolt on the underside that I will need to try and hold in place to loosen and tighten. I can't seem to figure out how to get under there though? I've thought that maybe the wall panel towards the v-berth comes off, but haven't tried it yet. Typically when I do something like that, something breaks and I'd prefer not to break something if I don't have to. :-) Any ideas on how to get to the underside of that platform for mounting a new toilet to it? Also, if I need to drill new holes for the new toilet, should I fill the old holes? If so, with what? Thanks, Kevin Paxton '82 34 #473 Japhys Spirit Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question
Kevin, Not sure if the 34 is the same as my 35-1, but in my case the toilet was mounted on a platform as you describe, and the there are studs, not thru bolts, that hold the toilet down. The "studs" are called hanger bolts, they have a wood-screw thread on one end, and a machine thread on the other, with the wood screw end going into the platform. I filled the old holes with epoxy, and drilled and screwed in the new hanger bolts. http://www.homedepot.com/p/The-Hillman-Group-5-16-in-18-tpi-x-2-in-Stainless-Steel-Hanger-Bolt-10-Pack-44948/204775370?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-BASE-PLA-D25H-Hardware%7c=CKvV9JXFq9MCFdmCswodRvgHZQ=aw.ds Neil Gallagher Weatherly 35-1 Glen Cove, NY On 4/17/2017 8:33 AM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List wrote: Hey everyone, I'm going to be replacing the toilet on our 34 in the next week or so. Last time I was down there I was looking at how it's mounted and noticed that it's up on a little platform and looks like there are thru-bolts holding it in place. I'm assuming that there is then a bolt on the underside that I will need to try and hold in place to loosen and tighten. I can't seem to figure out how to get under there though? I've thought that maybe the wall panel towards the v-berth comes off, but haven't tried it yet. Typically when I do something like that, something breaks and I'd prefer not to break something if I don't have to. :-) Any ideas on how to get to the underside of that platform for mounting a new toilet to it? Also, if I need to drill new holes for the new toilet, should I fill the old holes? If so, with what? Thanks, Kevin Paxton '82 34 #473 Japhys Spirit Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List Toilet Replacement Mounting question
Hey everyone, I'm going to be replacing the toilet on our 34 in the next week or so. Last time I was down there I was looking at how it's mounted and noticed that it's up on a little platform and looks like there are thru-bolts holding it in place. I'm assuming that there is then a bolt on the underside that I will need to try and hold in place to loosen and tighten. I can't seem to figure out how to get under there though? I've thought that maybe the wall panel towards the v-berth comes off, but haven't tried it yet. Typically when I do something like that, something breaks and I'd prefer not to break something if I don't have to. :-) Any ideas on how to get to the underside of that platform for mounting a new toilet to it? Also, if I need to drill new holes for the new toilet, should I fill the old holes? If so, with what? Thanks, Kevin Paxton '82 34 #473 Japhys Spirit Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!